CallMeLee Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 54 minutes ago, roughjock said: I met two of the brothers at Screwboys recently and took the oldest one. I was tempted for the younger one too. I wonder if their story is real, the photos they showed me were all recent. Either way, the oldest one is ferociously eager for that paycheque. He was working the bar left, right and center. Impressive hustle. Encounter was a rip-off, but that hustle was a sign haha. From your description we seem to be referring to the same person. Even the way the older one actively hustles both onstage and off stage sounds spot on. So sorry to hear that the encounter was a rip-off though. Quote
spoon Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Sounds like u just got cock blocked by jake. Not sure what is your arrangement on his tips, but i recall u said jake's didnt expect any tips, another signs of he wanted more than just a hired guy. Hope you and jake will find a way to make it work hehe. vinapu and floridarob 2 Quote
CallMeLee Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 34 minutes ago, spoon said: Sounds like u just got cock blocked by jake. Not sure what is your arrangement on his tips, but i recall u said jake's didnt expect any tips, another signs of he wanted more than just a hired guy. Hope you and jake will find a way to make it work hehe. Thanks. I hope so too but not in any romantic manner. One reason why I favour the "paid scene" is the inherent expectation of it being straightforward and purely transactional. I brought up Jake's odd behavior the following day, asking why he seemed off the previous night. He mentioned feeling excluded and unsure about how to handle the situation (what to do, where to go) if I decided to bring Nai back to the hotel. It made sense, and as a host (technically he was my guest), I should have been more considerate of that. Mavica, vinapu, Ruthrieston and 1 other 4 Quote
roughjock Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 hours ago, CallMeLee said: From your description we seem to be referring to the same person. Even the way the older one actively hustles both onstage and off stage sounds spot on. So sorry to hear that the encounter was a rip-off though. In the bar he was great. When he sat with me, I felt the price and tip was worth it. Back at the hotel, it was 5000 THB to put my dick inside him for 20 seconds, and then he screamed that it was too big. I said, no problem, the initial fee then. Nope. 5000 thb. I almost died. Quote
floridarob Posted April 9 Posted April 9 8 hours ago, CallMeLee said: only to have the eager Papasan assume I wanted him to join us. Not wanting to embarrass the guy, who introduced himself as Nai from Myanmar, I went along with it. No mistake on the part of the papasan.....they know how to sell 🧐 Quote
floridarob Posted April 9 Posted April 9 4 hours ago, roughjock said: 5000 THB to put my dick inside him for 20 seconds, and then he screamed that it was too big. I said, no problem, the initial fee then. Nope. 5000 thb. I almost died. I was hoping that was a typo.....but you said 5000 thb twice, so I guess not 🙄 vinapu and reader 2 Quote
roughjock Posted April 9 Posted April 9 5 minutes ago, floridarob said: I was hoping that was a typo.....but you said 5000 thb twice, so I guess not 🙄 Not a typo. I even said to him, “I’m living here, I will be a repeat customer, I know what the price should be and I know you’re ripping me off. Are you sure?” He took the 5000 THB and then tried to add me to WhatsApp. I walked away. I’m now hesitant to hire any Vietnamese model. floridarob and vinapu 2 Quote
floridarob Posted April 9 Posted April 9 1 minute ago, roughjock said: I’m now hesitant to hire any Vietnamese model. I'm in that group, but you'll find a bit of opposition to that here 😉 vinapu and 18past19 2 Quote
reader Posted April 9 Posted April 9 56 minutes ago, floridarob said: I was hoping that was a typo.....but you said 5000 thb twice, so I guess not 🙄 Likewise. But Roughjock may have learned the most important lesson: never pay 5,000 baht for any off. 52 minutes ago, roughjock said: I even said to him, “I’m living here, I will be a repeat customer..." That was interpreted as "You mean I get to do this again?" 52 minutes ago, roughjock said: I’m now hesitant to hire any Vietnamese model. I wouldn't pay 5,000 bht that for any model regardless of where they're from Although I'm not a fan of either Jupiter or Moonlight now, those are the only two bars I think of where the term "model" is commonly used (and then only for a select handful of performers at Moonlight). floridarob and vinapu 1 1 Quote
roughjock Posted April 9 Posted April 9 1 hour ago, reader said: I wouldn't pay 5,000 bht that for any model regardless of where they're from Can someone please chime in with what you usually pay (2500 THB is the lowest I've been offered, upwards to 6000 THB- no, I didn't book them) and what that gets you? I'm just having rough luck I guess, because even for 2500 THB, that allows you to suck their dick and seemingly nothing else? This is only my experience with bar boys. Grindr is typically 2500 THB full service. Quote
reader Posted April 9 Posted April 9 1 hour ago, roughjock said: Can someone please chime in with what you usually pay (2500 THB is the lowest I've been offered, upwards to 6000 THB- no, I didn't book them) and what that gets you? I'm just having rough luck I guess, because even for 2500 THB, that allows you to suck their dick and seemingly nothing else? This is only my experience with bar boys. Grindr is typically 2500 THB full service. Tipping has been a perennial topic of debate on the forums forever. Reviewing some of the more recent ones may prove helpful. Reading previous trip reports also contain tipping information. roughjock, vinapu and floridarob 1 2 Quote
CallMeLee Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 4 hours ago, roughjock said: Can someone please chime in with what you usually pay (2500 THB is the lowest I've been offered, upwards to 6000 THB- no, I didn't book them) and what that gets you? I'm just having rough luck I guess, because even for 2500 THB, that allows you to suck their dick and seemingly nothing else? This is only my experience with bar boys. Grindr is typically 2500 THB full service. From my last two trips (2023 and 2024), 2000-4000 seems to be a normal range. With long time (my preference) around the 3k region. In saying that, a lot of factors are also in play - high or low season, day of the week (monday-wednesday seems favourable) and time of the night (closer to closing is good but the good ones may have already been offed). Striking a good rapport with the guy also helps a lot. Not to forget that your answer to these questions will matter - where you from (i.e. your spending capacity) - what you do for work / where is your hotel (as above) - how long you staying / how often you visit (potential for repeat business) vinapu 1 Quote
roughjock Posted April 10 Posted April 10 4 hours ago, reader said: Tipping has been a perennial topic of debate on the forums forever. Reviewing some of the more recent ones may prove helpful. Thank you so much for this. I had trouble finding pricing discussion before, probably for the reason you listed. 2 hours ago, CallMeLee said: From my last two trips (2023 and 2024), 2000-4000 seems to be a normal range. With long time (my preference) around the 3k region. Thank you as well! I haven't tried Long Time yet, maybe in the future since the pricing doesn't seem far off from what I'm paying for Short Time. I'm also unaware of how long a boy expects to stay. My encounters have all been an hour or less, but that's because most have been disappointing. Research phase, I'm telling myself. Quote
vinapu Posted April 10 Posted April 10 6 hours ago, roughjock said: Can someone please chime in with what you usually pay (2500 THB is the lowest I've been offered, upwards to 6000 THB- no, I didn't book them) I rarely do short time preferring massage to that but in Bangkok I would not pay more than 2000 unless guy is already time tested by me then I may throw 500 more. There are few guys I paid more but those were long short times 3-5 hrs but those are exceptional specimens either body or chemistry wise. Long times 3000-5000 which is my upper limit for tip , 3500-4000 most common. Only once I paid 6000 but that way kind of good bye send off as I decided not to off him again even if I did many times in the past. Instead of haggling down I decided to part ways on generous side. In Pattaya 1500 st , 2000, sometimes 3000 LT jamiebee 1 Quote
vinapu Posted April 10 Posted April 10 6 minutes ago, roughjock said: Thank you as well! I haven't tried Long Time yet, maybe in the future since the pricing doesn't seem far off from what I'm paying for Short Time. I'm also unaware of how long a boy expects to stay. ...... My encounters have all been an hour or less, but that's because most have been disappointing. Long time I'm big fan of is not for everybody though. You and boy must be both comfortable with each other and higher amount of trust is required. After all each one of you is with stranger during possibly deep sleep stage. At times you may sense that boys may show some hesitation I tell them always that long time is till breakfast and it's mine breakfast , not theirs, even if it's my habit always offer them a breakfast as listening to my snoring may be hunger inducing. In exchange nothing beats waking up to a warm body beside or even better wrapped around me. If boy will start making excuses in middle of the night that he needs to go outside because is hungry or needs to smoke, no sense to chain him but definitely not a time to pay him agreed fee. Give them your short time rate and point that rest of tip they get in the morning - chances are they wont return and really - you don't want them to with such an attitude. Try not to go long time with boy you are taking for first time as chances are you guys ay not be compatible. 6 minutes ago, roughjock said: Research phase, I'im telling myself. That is proper attitude instead of getting bitter feeling you are ripped off. Costly lesson with that Screwboy though. jamiebee and Marc in Calif 2 Quote
roughjock Posted April 10 Posted April 10 32 minutes ago, vinapu said: In Pattaya 1500 st , 2000, sometimes 3000 LT These responses are eye-opening! I'm better equipped now and will off someone again soon. Sounds like I should head to Pattaya- muscular guys easy to find there? jamiebee 1 Quote
vinapu Posted April 10 Posted April 10 12 minutes ago, roughjock said: These responses are eye-opening! I'm better equipped now and will off someone again soon. Sounds like I should head to Pattaya- muscular guys easy to find there? not as easy as Bangkok, Pattaya is rather twink kingdom but you will find some hunks in BoyzBoyzBoyz, Dreamboys and Xboys. Forget about Sunee but in passing I saw few hunky guys in Jomtien too. Quote
roughjock Posted April 10 Posted April 10 1 hour ago, vinapu said: not as easy as Bangkok, Pattaya is rather twink kingdom but you will find some hunks in BoyzBoyzBoyz, Dreamboys and Xboys. Forget about Sunee but in passing I saw few hunky guys in Jomtien too. I’ll check out those three places first. If anyone has recommendations, let me know- either specific models or bars! Quote
Popular Post CallMeLee Posted April 12 Author Popular Post Posted April 12 Part 6 After a quick breakfast in the hotel, Jake and I hailed a Grab taxi to take us to Siam Paragon, the pickup location for the tour we had booked. Navigating to the assembly area was a breeze, thanks to the clear directions and photos provided by the klook app. We arrived with half an hour to spare before departure, giving us ample time to purchase some snacks for the two hour ride. Arriving back to Damnoen floating market was a nostalgic journey for me, as it had been years since I last visited. Activities like these feel awkward to be doing alone so Having Jake along made the experience even more enjoyable. It was fun navigating the bustling waterways together, passing through the vibrant market stalls, we couldn't resist sampling local delicacies like grilled meats on skewers, fruits, local delicacies I can't even identify, washing it all down with refreshing coconut water. Following our exploration of the floating market, we made our way to Maeklong Railway, eager to witness the famous train weaving its way through the market stalls. Despite the enjoyable excursion, the relentless heat of the afternoon began to take its toll, prompting us to seek refuge in the shade whenever possible. Yet, the sight of the train thundering past, mere inches from the vendors' goods, made the journey undeniably memorable.Despite the enjoyable and picturesque tour, the sweltering heat began to take its toll, and I was grateful for the respite of the air-conditioned bus by mid-afternoon picking us up and ending the tour. We got dropped off at Iconsiam which is good as the dinner cruise we booked will be leaving from this pier in 3 hours. With this planned and no time to return to the hotel , we went to a massage shop nearby to refresh our body from the grueling day trip and more importantly, have a shower and change clothes. The chao praya cruise was very enjoyable and seeing some iconic Bangkok sights from a different perspective is enjoyable. Food is decent and entertainment is also good. Jake and I just chill enjoying the sights over beer and friendly banter and a bit of heart to heart talk. When the cruise ended by around 10pm, we were exhausted, we then headed back to the hotel where we decided to chill for the night, Jake started packing his stuff. While I start making mental notes of what to do the coming days. The next morning, we treated ourselves to an early lunch at Baiyoke Sky, soaking in the breathtaking views of the city skyline. Reflecting on the past few days, I felt grateful for Jake's companionship but also excited at the prospect of solo exploration. By early afternoon, Jake received a text from his friends indicating their arrival, signaling the end of our shared adventure. We bid farewell at the hotel, cherishing the memories created during our time together (not to forget a cheeky farewell sex before he took off!) Still feeling tired, I decided to have a nap. I woke up around 8pm struggling to decide if I should go out or let my introverted self enjoy solitude for a bit. I did enjoy and had a blast having a companion during the last three days but part of me enjoy being alone sometimes. By 9:30pm, I am making my way to Surawong. My introverted self can have fun after this trip. Freshboys was this night's destination. Place is decently full. I quickly surveyed the stage and can see more than 3 that I deem as offable. Maybe I'm being too sensitive but seeing the mamasan feeling up the guys on stage is a bit off putting for me. The mamasan will just walk past and nonchalantly place his hands inside their pants feeling their arse and cock. Then as if nothing happened, will just walk away. I don't want to sound hypocritical but I just feel sorry for the guys. Out of the 3 I shortlisted in my head, one made eye contact and smiled. Next minute he's sitting with me having the usual chat while watching the show. He introduced himself as Mek from Myanmar. He can carry basic convo but will whip out his phone from time to time for translation. When we approached the pointy end of our chat, he asked me if I'm looking for LT or ST. "Short Time", I replied. I was so surprised with my response. Must be my introverted self speaking out loud. With that, Mek and I made our way out of the bar and hailed a taxi to my hotel. BL8gPt, Londoner, roughjock and 9 others 12 Quote
vinapu Posted April 12 Posted April 12 3 hours ago, CallMeLee said: My introverted self can have fun after this trip. ..................... He introduced himself as Mek from Myanmar. He can carry basic convo but will whip out his phone from time to time for translation. When we approached the pointy end of our chat, he asked me if I'm looking for LT or ST. right desision ............. thank you for the lead, always good to know guys interested in LT reader, Londoner and floridarob 3 Quote
floridarob Posted April 12 Posted April 12 4 hours ago, vinapu said: thank you for the lead, always good to know guys interested in LT or not....conversation doesn't seem complete enough to know...but, Hope springs eternal 😉 Quote
Popular Post CallMeLee Posted April 17 Author Popular Post Posted April 17 Part 7 After saying goodbye to Mek, I welcomed the return to my solitary bed, relishing the comfort of solitude. While I enjoy companionship, there comes a point when I crave time alone. My time with Mek was enjoyable; he's attractive, and I appreciated his efforts to please. Perhaps another encounter with him is in the cards. The next day, after tackling some work, I contemplated checking out Aurora Massage in Sukhumvit (as discussed in this forum). However, after a few exchanges, my gut feeling told me to proceed with caution. While nothing seemed outright suspicious, their focus on the brand of oil they use (Aesop) to justify their prices and not being forthcoming about shorter session options left me hesitant. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. Instead, I decided to head back to Suan Plu, not to revisit S'sense, but to give Prince Massage another shot. It had been quite some time since my last visit (before the pandemic), and I was curious about any changes. Arriving at the familiar compound, I was met by a lone staff member. It was 2 pm, and I found myself the only customer in the reception area. Though there were fewer masseurs (around 10) available this time, the overall quality seemed promising. From looks alone, I have shortlisted 8 potentials. As I took a seat, all the masseurs sprang into action, each vying for my attention. One in particular caught my eye with his impressive physique and warm shy smile. With a laser pointer confirmation from the staff member, Bank (as he later introduced himself) approached me, while the others resumed their tasks. Navigating the massage room area is quite confusing being dark, with only few LED candles in between and some mirrored walls, I was lucky not to bang my head or crash on a mirror on my way to my designated room. Upon entering, Bank led me to the shower and he stepped out to get his stuff. I was heartbroken (lol) as I thought he will join me. He entered a few minutes later and I enjoyed watching him take a shower. The frosted glass window near the bed is a nice touch. Bank was a bit chatty and his English is quite good. His massage skills while not as enjoyable as the one I had at S'sense is still remarkable and very pleasant . From his strokes, you can really feel that he was trained and the massage level is way more than decent. One thing that surprised me happened when he transitioned to the more spicy part of the session. Many of you may already noticed that I do not provide much details on my reports when it comes to this part of the massage. But I was pleasantly surprised with my experience with him that I'm making a bit of exception. From experience, I always find my sessions in Brasil to be hotter and way more intense. I was delighted that the level of experience with Bank was comparable. He kisses so passionately that it felt like I was transported to 117 in Rio rather than being in Bangkok (and I am not exaggerating!). He's also a good top and prepared me well prior to entering me gently and then slowly working building up the intensity of his thrusts. Half of the tops I met in Bangkok doesn't seem to know what they are doing which makes the experience less pleasurable. We continued in different positions with me finishing while he's inside me and our lips are locked passionately. He then finished off on my chest and after wiping it off, went back lying on the bed to catch our breath, bit of a laugh and more cheeky extra kisses. We showered together afterwards and after giving Bank his tip, said my good bye together with a sincere promise that I will be back and choose him again. As I exited the gate and made my way to the main road, I reflected on what just happened and was thankful for re-discovering this place. khaolakguy, JimmyJoe, Marc in Calif and 12 others 13 2 Quote
reader Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Many thanks for providing a long-awaited and current report on Prince. Encouraged to hear this legendary venue is living up to its reputation. While other crowd pleases like Hero have left the scene, Prince endures. vinapu 1 Quote
vinapu Posted April 17 Posted April 17 3 hours ago, CallMeLee said: However, after a few exchanges, my gut feeling told me to proceed with caution. I hope curiosity prevails and you will venture there as so far we never had reports from that shop. On another hand from experience I can confirm that gut feeling , whether about the places or particular boys quite often is remarkably accurate predictor of things to come. But at end of day if we don't try, we don't know. Marc in Calif, reader, BL8gPt and 1 other 4 Quote