When they cant get it up?

[Guest taylorsquare]

Well..........if you off a guy ,tke him back to the room and he cant get it up for you or if your a top and the bottom suddenly or during the action says it hurts and doesnt want it,how much do you usually pay?and how long do you let them try before you pay them to go.

Mostly im interested in top boys who say that can get it up but cant or dont want to in the room.

I offed a boy from dreamboys who promised the earh but when we got back to the room and i told him to shower ,suddenly he said he was sick.

I gave him 100 baht ,that was about 10 minutes in the room.

He wanted 500.but i was not going to pay it.

 

Sometimes i realise they cant get it up or if they are a bottom maybe they dont like you to fuck them,and if they are genuinly tried,sometimes i pay the full rate and we do oral or something else instead.

[Guest xiandarkthorne]

The first time it happened to me, I was still a newbie to the gay gogo bar scene and paid the full amount of 1500 Baht. The second time, I was no longer quite as virginal and told him, "Mai mee tam gnagn mai mee nguen" or "No work no money" before showing him the door. I did relent and give him 200 Baht before closing the door behind him, though.

[Gaybutton]

Cant's get it up? Watch this:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYGBsrCmcCw

[fedssocr]

I offed a boy once from WWB and once we got back to the hotel he was very shy and reluctant. We took a shower together but once we got to the bed he basically said he couldn't do anything and would leave. He didn't ask for any money and I didn't offer him any. It was odd. I tried not to take it too personally. :-)

[Guest Oogleman]

I always have a half a magic blue pill ready if he's hot.

[Guest]

I offed a boy once from WWB and once we got back to the hotel he was very shy and reluctant. We took a shower together but once we got to the bed he basically said he couldn't do anything and would leave. He didn't ask for any money and I didn't offer him any. It was odd. I tried not to take it too personally. :-)

 

Do they get paid enough by the bar to make the gogo dancing income comparable with what they might earn in a shop? If so, I could understand why some might work there & be not so keen on the sex.

 

Also I would struggle to get it up if going to bed with a middle aged farang too. Horrible thought.

[Guest buckeroo2]

 

Also I would struggle to get it up if going to bed with a middle aged farang too. Horrible thought.

If average life expectancy is 100 yrs - then 50 is middle aged - So, I am guessing middle aged is more in the 40 - 45 yr age range - Using that as a guideline I'm betting most of us are past middle age.

[Guest joseph44]

Do they get paid enough by the bar to make the gogo dancing income comparable with what they might earn in a shop? If so, I could understand why some might work there & be not so keen on the sex.

 

Also I would struggle to get it up if going to bed with a middle aged farang too. Horrible thought.

The boys receive somewhat between THB 2,500 and THB 3,000 + tips per month if they don't have offs or 'boy-drinks'.

Every time they're offed they will get 'commission' and that counts for the boy-drinks too.

During good times (when was that?) the boys didn't really care their salaries, because they could easily make THB 30,000 - THB 40,000 per month.

 

Another matter is education: most boys/girls working as a 'social worker' aren't very high educated. They leave school at the age of 14 or 16, usually because of the lack of funds.

So the choices are being reduced to farming, cheap production labour or being a prostitute. Some choose the latter.

[Guest]

The boys receive somewhat between THB 2,500 and THB 3,000 + tips per month if they don't have offs or 'boy-drinks'.

 

This really depends on the individual bar and also if they show up for work every single night and do not miss any. If they have an emergency and miss a few days, no salary. But, not all bars will pay this. Plus, I cannot count the number of times an entire bar didn't get paid the salary for the month as the owner "said" he didn't have it.

 

I think the majority of Crazy Dragon boys are free lancers and not full-time. I may be wrong in that.

 

I know of many of the other bars when the guys just don't want to show up or show up late as their salary can't be docked any more anyway.

 

I will never understand the full ins and outs of how one gets paid and one doesn't but I think that IF a bar pays it boys, they are expected to be early every single night of the month.

[Gaybutton]

I think the majority of Crazy Dragon boys are free lancers and not full-time. I may be wrong in that.

You're not wrong and it isn't just that bar. Many bar boys are freelancing, without salary, in many bars. Just ask them.

[Guest]

If average life expectancy is 100 yrs - then 50 is middle aged - So, I am guessing middle aged is more in the 40 - 45 yr age range - Using that as a guideline I'm betting most of us are past middle age.

 

Average male life expectancy is about 80 years.

One could reasonably use the following:

0~29 = young

30~55 = middle aged

56~Dead = old

 

Some of us are not even half way through middle age, based on this definition.

 

Ultimately there are very few 40 year olds I would want to have sex with & if considering westerners, very few in their thirties too.

[Guest Mark7711]

You're not wrong and it isn't just that bar. Many bar boys are freelancing, without salary, in many bars. Just ask them.

The pay structure in the Krazy Dragon changed 12 weeks ago. We have 2 freelancers at the moment. The rest are on a daily tip plus salary from the bar, re the amount of new boys its working well for all concerned.

 

Mark

[Guest buckeroo2]

30~55 = middle aged

I rather doubt many 30 year olds would agree that they are middle aged.

[Guest fountainhall]

Average male life expectancy is about 80 years.

One could reasonably use the following:

0~29 = young

30~55 = middle aged

56~Dead = old

 

I was once told by a Chinese guy that most Chinese people regard 40 as being the age at which one reaches "full bloom". In Asia, it seems fairly common for 'young' to be regarded as anything up to around 40, 'middle aged' between 40 and 65, old from around 65 to 80 - and then I guess we're 'dead'! Obviously the bridge points vary from individual to individual, though,

[Guest buckeroo2]

I was once told by a Chinese guy that most Chinese people regard 40 as being the age at which one reaches "full bloom". In Asia, it seems fairly common for 'young' to be regarded as anything up to around 40, 'middle aged' between 40 and 65, old from around 65 to 80 - and then I guess we're 'dead'! Obviously the bridge points vary from individual to individual, though,

While middle age is surely open to interpretation, I , assume, by definition, middle age means the point in which you have lived half your life, more or less. If 65 is middle age, that means you can expect to live to 130 yrs old. I know 50 is the new 40, etc, but 65 may be stretching the limit . I get a senior city discount at many places in the US and I am 56 yrs old. I propose that I have passed "middle-aged" - maybe 40-55 is a more realistic span.

I guess as we get older our vision of where we fit into these categories gets a more liberal interpretation. Ask a 21 yr old what he considers old and see how different that is from your thoughts. I was watching a Thai TV show and my Thai friend commented that he did not like a particular character and I asked him why. He said "he acts like old man - he only 23 and act like he 30".

[Guest tdperhs]

Getting back to the original question, buy yourself a toy. Then, so long as he doesn't have hemorrhoids or lockjaw, and you have fresh batteries, all your bases are covered.