Ground Coffee In Pattaya

[Guest Astrrro]

I had been buying instant coffee form at home consumption but it really tastes like crap.

 

So I figure I'll bring this little plastic thingy that you put a coffee and and a filter in, then pour hot water and you have a cup of coffee.

 

I didn't look closely but I assume that you can buy ground coffee at most supermarkets (or the it's beans that can be ground at the store).

 

Is it easy to buy small #2 coffee filters or should I bring my own? How much do the filters cost cause maybe I'll bring my own?

 

Any places where you can buy good coffee but has lower prices than competitors?

 

PS I don't have a kitchen but have a fridge and water heater.

[Gaybutton]

Coffee filters are quite cheap and that shouldn't be a factor. You can buy small drip coffee makers inexpensively too. I have a four-cup drip coffee maker that I bought at Carrefour. That's what I use and it works just fine. I don't remember exactly how much it cost. I think it was between 50 and 800 baht, something like that.

 

They do have those "little plastic thingies" too, if that's really what you prefer. Personally I think you're better off with a small drip coffee maker.

[Guest Astrrro]

 

Thanks!

 

I do prefer the plastic thingy as space is a consideration as I won't have a kitchen. I also value simplicty, less things to wash etc.

 

I'm not sure why a slow drip should taste better than pouring in the hot water all at once, though I guess there must be.

 

So any supermarket such as Friendship or Tops at TukCom should sell filters I guess. And I suppose the better coffee is available at Villa Market?

[Guest laurence]

Astrro, Do you live in Thailand or visiting? If visiting, I suggest you bring coffee beans from home. A few pounds will last a while. Costco is one source. You can buy a coffee grinder in Thailand at Carrefour or other sources in Thailand.

Buy a French Press either at home or here in Thailand. I saw them at Friendship Market in Pattaya. The small size will make about one cup; the larger size two cups. Do google search for info. Can buy at Amazon.com or at Starbucks. Also can buy coffee at Starbucks but not sure in Thailand. Others can give you info on availability of beans in Thailand. French press is easy to use and makes the best coffee. Hope that helps. All you need is hot water and the coffee beans. I use a microwave to heat the water.

[Gaybutton]

If visiting, I suggest you bring coffee beans from home.

Why? The grocery stores all have plenty of ground coffee for sale. It's also easy to find high quality coffee beans if you want to go to the trouble.

[Guest Astrrro]

I'm in the USA right now, but will be coming over to Thailand on a one way ticket.

 

A French Press uses ground coffee, it's not a grinder and coffee maker all in one, right?

 

I'm very reluctant to bring stuff into the studio apartment where I'll be living. I already have a hot water heater.

 

So I'm thinking that the plastic thingy which I use at home should be a significant upgrade from instant.

 

The supermakets have grinders, right? I know that it's better to grind right before brewing.

 

A kitchen is not important to me. I don't enjoy cooking and washing dishes. With cheap Thai food plentiful all night on Pattaya Tai, I don't have much desire to upgrade to an apartment with a kitchen. Also figure a kitchen will more likely bring roaches.

[KhorTose]

Why? The grocery stores all have plenty of ground coffee for sale. It's also easy to find high quality coffee beans if you want to go to the trouble.

 

I am a coffee drinker and I live in Seattle the home of most of the worlds coffee companies, and the local mountain grown coffee I buy in Chiang Mai is just as good and may even be better then the best Starbucks, Tullys, SBC or any other coffee company I've tried.

 

Come on live dangerously and try the local coffee. I believe you will be pleasently surprised. Heck I even though of bringing some of it home with me.

 

 

[Guest]

I am a coffee drinker and I live in Seattle the home of most of the worlds coffee companies

Some of my friends regard Seattle as home of the McDonald's of coffee.

There are many other good coffee companies in the world that do not come from Seattle.

In Japan for example, I recall Starbucks really struggling because the competition was so much better. In the UK, they certainly do not have the best coffee either.

 

The plastic filter cones are a very good & easy way of making tasty coffee.

[Gaybutton]

Some of my friends regard Seattle as home of the McDonald's of coffee.

Sheeeeesh! Are you actually going to provoke a debate over where the best coffee comes from?

 

I can't tell you where the best coffee comes from, but I have a pretty good idea where the worst comes from: A Nescafe instant coffee container. Have you ever been to the Middle East? In Israel it is common to add something to coffee that's called, rather appropriately, hell. I don't know what it is, but with it in the coffee, which is lousy there in the first place, now the coffee tastes as if someone added Pine-Sol to it.

[Guest lvdkeyes]

Also figure a kitchen will more likely bring roaches.

Do you have a kitchen in the US? Do you have roaches? Come on! Just keep a kitchen clean and you won't have roaches. If you should bring one home in groceries, just spray and they will be gone. I have lived here going on 5 years and I have a kitchen where I cook almost everyday and I have no roaches.

 

As far as coffee is concerned, you can get the same kinds of coffee makers here as in the US and some very good coffee as well.

[Guest tdperhs]

1. For Astrrro: Is your French Press electric? If so, is it adaptable to 220?

 

2. For lvdkeyes: Your sentiments about roaches is well made. Cleanliness is the best weapon. But, if you're in an apartment building as Astrrro is, his apartment is only as clean as his neighbors' apartments.

[Gaybutton]

I cook almost everyday and I have no roaches.

I just cook the roaches. After all, waste not, want not . . . Not bad with a little soy sauce. Deep fry them. They get nice and crunchy.

[Guest lvdkeyes]

1. For Astrrro: Is your French Press electric? If so, is it adaptable to 220?

 

2. For lvdkeyes: Your sentiments about roaches is well made. Cleanliness is the best weapon. But, if you're in an apartment building as Astrrro is, his apartment is only as clean as his neighbors' apartments.

1. A French press is a glass cylinder with a plunger. You put in the coffee grounds, pour in boiling water and press down with the plunger. Presto you have excellent coffee.

 

2. In an apartment the manager should have the place sprayed periodically. I live in a huge apartment complex and they do that and I have seen 3 roaches in my apartment in nearly 4 years and they all were dead.

[Guest lvdkeyes]

I just cook the roaches. After all, waste not, want not . . . Not bad with a little soy sauce. Deep fry them. They get nice and crunchy.

Why bother to gather them and cook them yourself? Just go to a street stall and buy them already cooked.

[Guest HeyGay]

I’m not a coffee drinker at all, I love tea and Tesco’s do a fabulous tea Bag, they take a month of PG tips out put, from their factories and sell it lotus/Tesco own brand, Via the renown world taster Importer Richard Thomas, its now 89 baht for 40 bags from 70 baht last week, sold in one of those recycled paper, small boxes Red & Brown paper color, but its the best tea you can get in Thailand. As many of you know tea has 1/4 of the caffeine of coffee and also contains a natural source of antioxidants, which help protect the body from harmful free radicals.

 

Yes TEA is good for you.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5281046.stm

 

Coffee can be bad for you.

 

After saying that when I moved into my new sumptuous House in Bangkok, I bought everything you could imagine new and thought Id like to try some Coffee over the weekends, nothing better then waking up, going down stairs put on a pot of coffee, turn on the computer, then have shower, when you come down to the smell of the fresh coffee wafting its rich aroma around the room I’m in heaven, so that’s when I had to find a good coffee, after trying many the best, I have tasted so far and all my house guests agree, when they come for dinner or stay for the weekend, is its fabulous, its called Suzuki Coffee and its in Blue and gold Packets, try it your be pleased you did,

 

Mind you as I’m a Scotch whiskey drinker and never have I drank a pint of larger, hate it I was recently in Lao and very thirsty, so my boy friend, gave me a drink of his dark Lao Beer, there is a Dark one and a light one, I was told by the guy serving us in the “Central gay restaurant” fab food fab atmosphere, Vientiane, when the Germans came to build the railway they could not get a decent Beer, so they showed them how to make a light and dark German Wheat beer, if it was sold around the world or well marketed, it would be a big hit, I for one cant stop drinking it, where I can get it, wonderful try it if you haven’t already got hook on it.

 

Coffee can be Bad for you.

Coffee Cons

 

 

1. Heart disease.

Diterpenes cafestol and kahweol present in unfiltered coffee and caffeine each appear to increase risk of coronary heart disease. High quality studies [6] have confirmed the cholesterol-raising effect of diterpenes. Also, coffee consumption is associated with an increase of plasma homocysteine, a risk factor for coronary heart disease.

 

2. Cholesterol. Heavy consumption of boiled coffee elevates blood total and LDL ("bad") cholesterol levels [7]. Unfiltered coffee contains two cholesterol-raising compounds cafestol and kahweol.

3. Blood vessels. Coffee negatively affects the blood vessel tone and function.

4. Heart rhythm disturbances. Coffee can cause rapid or irregular heartbeats (cardiac arrhythmias).

5. Blood pressure. It produces unfavorable effects on blood pressure [8] and people prone to hypertension may be more susceptible. Recent Italian study found that coffee drinking can slightly increase the risk for development of sustained hypertension in people with elevated blood pressure.

6. Osteoporosis. Coffee intake may induce an extra urinary excretion of calcium. Heavy coffee consumption (600 ml or more) can modestly increase the risk of osteoporosis, especially in women with a low calcium intake [9].

7. Heartburn. A cup of coffee can trigger the heartburn.

8. Sleep. Most are aware of the stimulatory effects of caffeine. High amounts of caffeine taken before going to sleep can cause difficulty falling asleep, tendency to be awakened more readily by sudden noises, and a decreased quality of sleep. However, some people can drink coffee and fall right asleep.

9. Dehydration. The caffeine in coffee is a mild diuretic and can increase urine excretion. This effect may be easily neutralized by drinking an extra glass of water.

10. Dependence. Although "generally recognized as safe" by the FDA, caffeine is still a drug, a mild central nervous system stimulant, and it produces dependence. Caffeine withdrawal is a real syndrome. You may get a few days of headache and irritability if you choose to quit drinking coffee, however, it is relatively easy to break this habit, and most people are not addicted to caffeine.

And here is the list of studies to confirm some points:

 

1. Saaksjarvi K, Knekt P, Rissanen H, Laaksonen MA, Reunanen A, Mannisto S. Prospective study of coffee consumption and risk of Parkinson's disease. PubMed

 

2. Hu G, Bidel S, Jousilahti P, Antikainen R, Tuomilehto J. Coffee and tea consumption and the risk of Parkinson's disease. PubMed

 

3. van Dam RM, Willett WC, Manson JE, Hu FB. Coffee, caffeine, and risk of type 2 diabetes: a prospective cohort study in younger and middle-aged U.S. women. Diabetes Care. PubMed

 

4. Leitzmann MF, Stampfer MJ, Willett WC, Spiegelman D, Colditz GA, Giovannucci EL. Coffee intake is associated with lower risk of symptomatic gallstone disease in women. Gastroenterology. PubMed

 

5. Arendash GW, Schleif W, Rezai-Zadeh K, Jackson EK, Zacharia LC, Cracchiolo JR, Shippy D, Tan J. Caffeine protects Alzheimer's mice against cognitive impairment and reduces brain beta-amyloid production. Neuroscience. PubMed

 

6. Urgert R, Essed N, van der Weg G, Kosmeijer-Schuil TG, Katan MB. Separate effects of the coffee diterpenes cafestol and kahweol on serum lipids and liver aminotransferases. PubMed

 

7. Urgert R, Weusten-van der Wouw MP, Hovenier R, Lund-Larsen PG, Katan MB. Chronic consumers of boiled coffee have elevated serum levels of lipoprotein(a). PubMed

 

8. Winkelmayer WC, Stampfer MJ, Willett WC, Curhan GC. Habitual caffeine intake and the risk of hypertension in women. PubMed

 

9. Hallstrom H, Wolk A, Glynn A, Michaelsson K. Coffee, tea and caffeine consumption in relation to osteoporotic fracture risk in a cohort of Swedish women. PubMed

[Gaybutton]

Why bother to gather them and cook them yourself?

Like I said: Waste not, want not.

[Guest laurence]

Good grief! Astrro asks about coffee and gets a lecture on the health affects of caffeine! What about the health problems associated with Scotch whisky (not whiskey with an e) and too much Lao beer?

 

Just buy your little thingy, toss in a roach and some ground coffee and you should be happy.

[Guest thaiworthy]

Thank you for your post, HeyGay. I did not know coffee had so many adverse effects.

 

I had a blood test done recently and my bad cholesterol was high. Now I know why. And I even take medication for that. I have some coffee in a cup sitting next to me as I type this!

 

I am not supposed to be drinking coffee anyway, because I am diabetic and it elevates the blood sugar. But it gives me a little energy, but then, so does exercise. Why I prefer the former to the latter is because one is easy and the other is hard, at least from my point of view.

 

So, no more coffee for me, I guess. I'll drink tea. Too bad, as I have more than several coffee machines in my kitchen, but only one body. I am on a diet, too, so it shouldn't be that hard to add it to my daily regimen. Since making coffee in the morning was the only exercise I got, now I will have to hop on my exercise bike more often too.

 

Damn!

 

Starbucks baby, it was nice while it lasted, but all good things must come to an end . . .

[Guest frodo]

I have a Saeco Super Automatic Coffee Machine, which grinds the roasted beans, tamps and under pressure extrudes the coffee. After tasting this coffee, you will never go back to anything else. Visit Bon Cafe in Naklua and have a coffee there. They sell the machines and all coffee accessories such as beans and preground coffee.

[Guest fountainhall]

Whether or not I think the subject of duvet covers, coffee or shoe repair is trivial or stupid is not for me to share. They are all aspects of living in Thailand, which is why we read this forum.

 

Although the 'Duvet Cover' thread has been closed, permit me to import the above 2 sentences from one post by thaiworthy which also relate to this one. This 'Gay Thailand' section, according to its heading, essentially relates to all things gay about Thailand. With the greatest respect, threads about duvet covers, shoe repairs and coffee are much more about general living in Thailand (as highlighted by the quote above) than they are specifically about gay life in Thailand.

 

Might the webmasters and moderators therefore consider adding an additional section which deals with just this - general living in Thailand that has no specific relation to gay life in Thailand? I reckon it would prove useful to quite a number of readers, and would not clutter up this section.

 

(Yes, I know. I can almost hear GB’s put-down – “NO”!)

 

[Guest Astrrro]

The Ladyboy Forums has 19 sub forums. But when reading most forums, I usually click on "View New Posts" which merges all the subforums together.

 

 

[Gaybutton]

(Yes, I know. I can almost hear GB’s put-down – “NO”!)

What makes you think I would put down your idea? I have no reason to support or put down your idea. I think people tend to forget this is not my web site. It belongs to GT. He makes those decisions. I have nothing to do with it. I simply moderate what's here. If he wants to put in another forum, I have no objection. If he wants things to remain status quo, I also have no objection.

[PattayaMale]

Thinking about this a while I tend to agree with fountainhall for the reason that it would be easier to reference. I remember posts that dealt with a/c repair, handy man, scooter rental, etc. Having this all in one place may be a good service.

[Guest fountainhall]

What makes you think I would put down your idea? I have no reason to support or put down your idea

 

Merely your comments on a number of these issues, including one on the duvet site -

 

Nothing is wrong with your questions. I'll bet plenty of people are interested in the answers

 

I am sure you are correct. But, as PattayMale suggests, I do think adding a new section would end up being more useful. Perhaps you can kindly mention the idea to GT.

[Guest lvdkeyes]

general living in Thailand that has no specific relation to gay life in Thailand?

I thought that was what the Beer Bar was intended for.

 

"The Beer Bar

Open to general topics not covered elsewhere including Current Events, Politics, Religion, Movies and other topics. Discuss the topic, not the policy or personality. Have fun and enjoy! "