TotallyOz Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Things sure changes since my last visit to Sunee. Several bars closed and others have started. The gogo scene is not as thriving as it once was. The streets seem quiet. Many of the boys had to switch bars as theirs closed. From what I have seen: Most of the boys from Minou and Sundance are now at Villa Rouge. Most of the Jim Jimmy James boys are at Tom Yum. Most of the boys from Nice Boys have shuffled around to all the bars. I have heard that many went to Crazy Dragon but the 2 nights I was there this trip, I didn't see them. I am also an early bird so they may not have showed up yet. Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 What constitutes an early bird? Showing up before 10 or before 9? Some bars open as early as 8, but at that hour, there's not much go-go going on. Quote
Guest joseph44 Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 What constitutes an early bird? Showing up before 10 or before 9? Some bars open as early as 8, but at that hour, there's not much go-go going on. Last Saturday I was drinking my coffee on Sunnee, it was approx. 8:30 p.m.: Where ever I looked and searched, I only found 4 farangs and one of them was a bar-owner. Loads of boys.......and I mean boys (Thai 18+ use to call them "boy baby") I went home after my coffee. No, I don't go to Sunnee to meet up with other farangs. Quote
Guest Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 What constitutes an early bird? Showing up before 10 or before 9? Some bars open as early as 8, but at that hour, there's not much go-go going on. I like to open the bars and am usually gone by 10. In 7 years of this city, I think I have seen a bar close 3 times. I get there early as I go to take a boy off and usually not to see a show. Although, on this trip I did not take anyone new off. Quote
Guest HeyGay Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Things sure changes since my last visit to Sunee. Several bars closed and others have started. The gogo scene is not as thriving as it once was. The streets seem quiet. Many of the boys had to switch bars as theirs closed. From what I have seen: Most of the boys from Nice Boys have shuffled around to all the bars. I have heard that many went to Crazy Dragon but the 2 nights I was there this trip, I didn't see them. I am also an early bird so they may not have showed up yet. Are you saying Beer the Manager of NICE BOYS has gone and the Bar is closed, things must be bad, I know he was looking to build more apartment rooms in his home town, may be he has the money he needs now to exstend his Empire. Quote
Guest Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Are you saying Beer the Manager of NICE BOYS has gone and the Bar is closed, things must be bad, I know he was looking to build more apartment rooms in his home town, may be he has the money he needs now to exstend his Empire. Sorry, did I get the name wrong? I meant the bar with the upstairs jack off area. Quote
Guest HeyGay Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Oh you mean Happy Boys I was going to say Beer would not let NICE BOY go unless some thing serious happend he has worked hard for the low rent and the fact he now owns all of TOM YUM after a Swede paid for the set up of it for him. Quote
Guest Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Oh you mean Happy Boys. Yes, sorry. Happy Boys. With Happy Boys, Nice Boys, Good Boys, they all are sounding the same. If I ever did a gogo, I would call it. Bad Boys. Quote
Guest HeyGay Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 From what I hear, apart from the Boys in KRAZY DRAGON its very "Unhappy Boys" they are only surviving by selling them selves on sites like GAYROMEO. Strange I was with a friend last night wandering around the Grand Palace and the Boys there about 100 all over were jumping in Car so much they were ignoring the walkers. but I must say many of the guys in cars were Thais or Asian, the Army boys I was told were all off early I find the karaoke Bars around BEHIGH GO GO is SAPAN KWI AREA have stunning boys and out side nicer guys hanging around also we had stunners last night from there. Forget Pattaya till November its dead, try something different, so much going on in Thailand if you know where to look Quote
Gaybutton Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 I can vouch for all of that. Right around the corner from BeHigh (Pradiphat, Soi 21 in Bangkok) is the Embassy Hotel. It's rather run down, but it makes a decent short-time place for about 700 baht. It's really not all that bad if you decide you want to stay there too, but don't expect luxury accommodations by any stretch of the imagination. Also, it's very convenient to the Chatuchak Market and the JJ Market. Saranrom Park, which is very close to the Grand Palace, and the vicinity is definitely jumping with available boys, most of whom ask for 500 baht plus taxi fare back. HeyGay is not exaggerating when he says about 100 boys were out there. Sometimes it's even more than that. Don't believe me? Go there some night about 11:00pm and see for yourself. You'll find a lot of military and university boys. Also, yes, a lot more boys who are having difficulty making it in the bars are turning to GayRomeo in hopes of hookups or, better still, a sugar daddy. I concur with every word of HeyGay's post. Quote
Guest HeyGay Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Thank you for confirming my post GB some people really do think I make up this stuff, as you say the most you would have to pay is around 500 and the quality of the guy is far higher than most you get in Pattaya any day just students who have run out of money to pay there way through college, I met one guy last week just 18 he was middle class guy well spoken said his friend said if he stands around here he can get some money as his allowance has run out for this month you should of seen him I found it hard to believe he was selling himself such nice cloths and so handsome. Quote
Gaybutton Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 some people really do think I make up this stuff Whether you do or not, you didn't make up this one. Every bit of what you wrote is all absolutely true and correct and I know that from personal experience. Again, many farang make a mistake by viewing these boys through western-cultured eyes. These boys don't see themselves as slutty prostitutes (and neither do I). They see what they're doing as simply a way of making some additional money. It's not a bad way to do it. They work whatever hours they choose without having to spend 8 to 12 hours a day working their butts off to make peanuts at a 7-Eleven or something. It's a way of supplementing their income from other jobs, making money to pay school tuition, pay their room rent, or just a way to make some pocket money when they don't have much else to do. Some nights they make money and some nights they don't, but apparently they think the odds are in their favor because there are sure plenty of them out there most of the time. I've met several this way and every one of them have been very nice, honest, and seemed to truly enjoy their time with their 'customer.' Some are gay and some are not, but the ones I've met are very good at what they do and generally are much more sophisticated and better educated than the average bar boy. Many farangs think the way to spend their evenings in Bangkok is to go to the bars, having their eardrums blasted out by excessively loud music volume, spending hundreds and hundreds of baht paying rip-off prices for drinks while being high-pressured by the street touts and mama-sans, paying exorbitant off fees, and paying 1000 to 1500 baht more in tips for the bar boys. If you enjoy that, wonderful, but not me. I haven't been to a Bangkok bar in years and I'm not planning to go to any of them when I'm in Bangkok. I don't enjoy them and I can think of a lot better things to do with my money than wasting it in the Bangkok bars. If I'm looking for a boy at night I'll be out there around the Saranrom Park-Grand Palace vicinity. I have a feeling if more farang would give it a try, HeyGay and I will have company. And before anyone starts calling me cheap, that 500 baht is what the boys out there ask for. If they were asking for more, I'd pay it. Sometimes I do anyway. Quote
Guest taylorsquare Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Where does any street trade hsppen in Pattaya? I know posters say jomtiem but.........not uni students. anyone had any luck in pattaya? Quote
Gaybutton Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Where does any street trade happen in Pattaya? In all honesty, and interestingly enough, it doesn't . . . at least not in the sense of specific cruise areas similar to Bangkok. Most likely that's because Pattaya simply does not have the population of boys, university students, and military boys in numbers anywhere near the numbers in Bangkok. Also, don't forget that the Saranrom Park-Grand Palace area is cruised primarily by Thais looking for boys. Only very few farang are going to be found cruising there, which probably accounts for the reasons why the boys in those areas ask for only 500 baht. You can bet that gay Thais aren't going to the bars and paying the kinds of prices farang pay. Of course, the boys will go just as happily with farang. In Pattaya, your best bet for cruising is still the beach, although I'm talking about during the day. It can get dangerous down there during the night and there are not many available boys there at night anymore. During the late afternoon to early evening, a lot of boys can be seen in the Tuk Com area, but they're not specifically cruising, although most would readily go with you if approached. Other than that, except for a few boys walking the streets in the Sunee Plaza area and the streets between Sunee Plaza, Pattayaland, Soi Day-Night and Walking Street there's really nothing at all similar to Bangkok in that respect. After 1:00am, when the bars close, many of the boys go to get something to eat in the Wat Chai area, but again they are not really specifically cruising. In other words, Pattaya is a completely different story from Bangkok when trying to find boys literally lining up to be cruised. Quote
Guest thaiworthy Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 GB, you've made me want to visit that park! How late at night do you go? But isn't it dangerous? I sure wouldn't visit a park at night here in the US. Not sure when is a good time to go. Quote
PattayaMale Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 BG, you've made me want to visit that park! How late at night do you go? But isn't it dangerous? I sure wouldn't visit a park at night here in the US. Not sure when is a good time to go. Good questions for GB. I know GB takes people to help them get their driver's license. Maybe he would be willing to take us to Bangkok...............I will sign up Quote
Gaybutton Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Maybe he would be willing to take us to Bangkok. Make me the right offer and I probably will. I sure wouldn't visit a park at night here in the US. If it was dangerous, I wouldn't go. It's not dangerous at all. I have never had a problem of any kind around there and I've never heard of anyone who has. That includes when I have parked the car and walked. Maybe you wouldn't visit a park in the US at night, but this ain't the US. Besides, you don't actually enter the park at all. The boys are all waiting on the sidewalks surrounding the park. Any time after 9:00pm is when it usually starts getting good. This is not the first time we've had threads about this on this board. Some of the previous threads are a year or two old, but the information hasn't changed at all. Just use our Search function, type in Saranrom, and the threads will come up. Believe me, none of what we're saying on this thread is embellished or exaggerated at all. It's all true. I'm surprised more people haven't made their way out there to give it a try for themselves. I'm sure most of you are well aware that HeyGay and I have had our past disputes, but I can tell you he is entirely correct on this thread. If anything, he actually understated this time. GT has been out there too. He's on that bike trip now, but I'll bet if he gets a chance and sees this thread, he'll also be telling you the same thing HeyGay and I are telling you. I've also heard there are other good cruise areas in Bangkok, but I've never investigated. Quote
lexusgs Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 GB, Am I correct in assumeing you're driving around these places? I've tried searching the older threads as you suggested but nothing came up. Things seem pretty quiet in Pattaya right now so may head up to BKK this weekend. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 If I'm looking for a boy at night I'll be out there around the Saranrom Park-Grand Palace vicinity I've read a lot about Saranrom Park from various sites. All seem to mention cruising in cars. Is it essential to have a car? As one who does not own a car, could one do it on foot? Quote
Gaybutton Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Am I correct in assuming you're driving around these places? That is correct. You can also just have a taxi take you. Is it essential to have a car? Of course not. As I said, just have a taxi take you. You can have the driver cruise around or you can exit the taxi, go around on foot, and take another taxi when you find your evening roommate. Just make sure he has his ID card. Besides, even if you have a car, unless you are quite familiar with Bangkok streets and/or have a GPS, you're not going to find it anyhow. So, go by taxi. As I said, make me the right offer and I'll take you myself. However, it's one thing for me to spend hours of my time helping someone get his driver's license locally. It's quite another to ask me to drive people to Bangkok and then chauffeur them around Saranrom Park, not to mention bringing them back to Pattaya. If anyone really wants me to do that, I'm perfectly willing, but you're covering my fuel, tolls, hotel, meals, and you're filling my fuel tank upon return to Pattaya. And if we're unfortunate enough to get stopped by a cop, you're covering the cost of the traffic ticket too. I think that's reasonable. If anyone wants to take me up on it, you know where to find me . . . Here are those old threads: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3205 http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2928 http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=399 http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1029 Quote
Guest taylorsquare Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I will be in Thailand this week,maybe Bangkok might be better than Pattaya this time around? What are the hotels like around this area that are walking distance and guest friendly and of reasonable standard? Yes i would be willing to go on a group tour if anyone is interested ,we could all chip in a bit for GB to take us. Quote
Gaybutton Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Yes i would be willing to go on a group tour if anyone is interested ,we could all chip in a bit for GB to take us. I have room in my car for three passengers of farang size, which means I could get you there, but if you find someone you want to bring back to your hotel, you would need to get back to the hotel by taxi, unless of course the boys would be amenable to being tied to the roof of the car. But I'll do it if you really want to do it. Quote
Guest HeyGay Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I've read a lot about Saranrom Park from various sites. All seem to mention cruising in cars. Is it essential to have a car? As one who does not own a car, could one do it on foot? Ill tell you I went around the Grand Palace area the first time some years ago with an American Doctor friend of mine, who knew the area, boys all over, we use to hire a cab and then tell the driver to cruise around each Streets, saying to stop here, wind down the window, chat to a boy or a group of boys, I use to cringe, you know what these bold Americans are like, the Taxi driver was shocked many times when we did it, but after a while the driver use to chat the boys up for you, all of them get into it and then the taxi drivers get bolder and do your bidding for you, it is most amazing. can you imagine this happening back in your home country. As GB says these are not hardened Bar boys many are very nice middle class boys with well to do families and educated, I have spoken to plenty of Farangs who fall in love with them and keep them for ever, some one for all there or get NO 2 Bus to the end of the ride, your find them there, in many cases they have just run out of funds or waiting for there next family allowance to arrive, they just dont look on it as a bad thing, but a great help to offer you a service, that costs them nothing and they get paid for. but the cherry on the cake for me is the Thai Army Boys, (see one of mine below)there selling themselves on occasions, they are out of this world. I must say the Army Guys I have had I pay 1000 baht to, they are super star stunning in Uniform as well. If you ever have a problem talking any boy to your room, always go to The Palace Hotel Near Khao San Road its 100 baht basic short time, and go to the back door, the boys will show you where it is, no questions asked, just pay the door man 100 baht he may look grumpy, but its all happening, all sorts there, the door man has a good thing going. so just grin and go for it. your love it fun looking for the right guy around the different streets. so many nice one you dont see in boys on many corners. As you see one of my Army guys here some, I have had even better looking. I know some people think its not true I have these Army boys, but go and look, your see all your dreams will cum true, if you find the area, 500 each way for gas and a fill up of his tank when you get back to pattaya should be good Im sure, plus all the extras, as mentioned by GB you should have far better time than paying a fortune in Boys Clubs no where as good looking these days, the good ones are still around but not in Bars. Quote
Guest taylorsquare Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 If anyone is interested in going for a night in Bangkok,let me know ,we could split the costs three ways and it would be change from Pattaya . Quote
Guest taylorsquare Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 Well........I have had another person interested,so GB can take three,so if anyone is coming over to Thailand,or here we could arrange a date/time. Thanks for your message K We can split the costs 3 ways for GB to take us. There are mid priced hotels nearby so we can stay the night,or if you want you can stay in Bangkok and come back (to pattaya)when you like. Quote
