New Visa problems

[Guest letmetellu]

No Problem with Visas here?

 

I can not see what all the fuss is, are you saying my non immigrant O visa is not allowed now or the retirement visa is being changed. The Thai Embassies in Brisbane, Australia, Fort Worth in the US, Savannakhet in Laos and Hull in the UK are all well known to give multi Type O or B visas no problem, or just get married many Thai lady will happily marry you for a small fee?

 

Cant under 50s just get multiple Type O visa??????

 

Most tourist will not need more then 2X30 day entries, so you are catering for every one, unless you have a over stay, which I hear is going to go up to maximum of 50,000 soon @ 500 baht a day.

 

 

If you manage to overstay keep with in the law, or your life will be hell, before you get there, if you get caught with a long over stay, 100,000 baht fine plus 500 a day to pay, your stay in the notorious Bangkok Immigration prison where Anmesty Interrnational say its the worst in the world, they tried to change it for the better and the Thai Govenment say do you want more people to overstay, no its this way for a purpose................I was out with the British Consulates man in Pattaya recently, Barry was telling me so many guys are in Prison for over stay, its the main part of his work, and if you cant find the money to pay, your govenment will not pay, it only ring a friend or next of kin to pay, if they will not your left there.

 

A guy I know was on a visa run last week one man paid his long overstay went over to Cambodia then came back the Thai Immigration the Officer said did you not see I have black listed your passport for over staying your not allowed back, he had no money a house here and a girlfriend with children, so they are now clamping down hard, the other guys on the bus had to have a collection, he had no money with him, stranded in no man's land at the border in Cambodia, hes not been seen since.

 

do not over stay http://www.thaivisa.com/303.0.html

 

If you have a serious overstay you will have to go to Jomtien Soi 5 Immigration or Airport Pay 20,000 now or 50,000 baht soon when announced, then I understand your not allowed back blacklisted unless the Thai Embassy back in your country say so, if at all.

 

Even though there are ways round everything, private me in confidence if you have a serious problem. I have some very high level contacts who will help you.

[Guest Boxer]

Nothing to do with Retirment Visa or Overstay which stay the same for now but if your under 50 or dont have a retirement or work one, you arrive on a VOA Visa on Arrival Tourist 30 days at Airport or on a 60 day Tourist Visa which you obtained from an Embassy out of the country. This latter one is fine you can renew it for 30 days then you leave to get another 60 day Embassy Visa.

If your on 30 day VOA's as many do you will only be able to get two more (up to 90 days total then) on Visa Runs in 6 mths then have to wait 90 days before new entry, you will have to go get an external Embassy 60 day Tourist Visa. Note that if you come and go each entry is counted as 30 days even if your here for weekend only.

Its aimed at people getting the right Visa and to stop people working or staying here illegally and the payment of tax but its hard to see the results except chaos for many.

Thai Visa Web Page has a huge amount of questions and informed answers in their Visa Forum I recommend it to you.

[Guest letmetellu]

Try this:-

 

It seems (so far) that the solution for those under 50 with no inclination or need to work here is to do this every year:

 

1. Get a quad-entry 6-month tourist visa (from your own country or elsewhere), come to Thailand.

 

2. Do a visa run as usual every 60 days, which will put you on your 2nd entry after 2 months, and 3rd entry after 4 months, approx.

 

2. Use the 4th and final entry the day before the visa expires, to get a further 60 days.

 

3. Extend this 60-day stay to 90 days at the immigration office in Bangkok (costs about 2,000 baht, right?) - you've now got a total of 9 months in Thailand on your 6-month visa.

 

4. Once this entry expires, you can still do the 3x30-day visa "exception" thing, which takes you to 12 months. Repeat and rinse.

 

Is it really that simple?

[Guest PapaDavid]

 

Is it really that simple?

 

Probably NOT!

 

[Guest Boxer]

Probably NOT!

 

Definately NOT this is what they are trying to stop, abuse of the Visa.

[Up2u]

Try this:-

 

It seems (so far) that the solution for those under 50 with no inclination or need to work here is to do this every year:

 

1. Get a quad-entry 6-month tourist visa (from your own country or elsewhere), come to Thailand.

 

2. Do a visa run as usual every 60 days, which will put you on your 2nd entry after 2 months, and 3rd entry after 4 months, approx.

 

2. Use the 4th and final entry the day before the visa expires, to get a further 60 days.

 

3. Extend this 60-day stay to 90 days at the immigration office in Bangkok (costs about 2,000 baht, right?) - you've now got a total of 9 months in Thailand on your 6-month visa.

 

4. Once this entry expires, you can still do the 3x30-day visa "exception" thing, which takes you to 12 months. Repeat and rinse.

 

Is it really that simple?

 

...and the under 50s will no longer have the 3M baht investment visa option (1 year renewable) after October 1.

[Gaybutton]

Continually leaving the country on the 30-day privilege is what they consider to be abuse. That is what they are going to change, so they say. No other types of visas or methods of renewing them are slated to be changed, as far as I know.

 

[Guest letmetellu]

Continually leaving the country on the 30-day privilege is what they consider to be abuse. That is what they are going to change, so they say. No other types of visas or methods of renewing them are slated to be changed, as far as I know.

 

Well you seem to have your finger on the gaybutton most of the time, what I'm continually being asked via pm and email, as if Im some sort of Oracle is, in simple words:-

 

Can an under 50 year old guy still get a multiple O and B type Visa to stay for a year ok.

 

That is the question every one wants to know, we all know about the other 30days, retirement and Investment visas

 

Thank you Please answer this and we will have all the answers?

[Gaybutton]

Well you seem to have your finger on the gaybutton most of the time, what I'm continually being asked via pm and email, as if Im some sort of Oracle is, in simple words:-

 

Can an under 50 year old guy still get a multiple O and B type Visa to stay for a year ok.

 

That is the question every one wants to know, we all know about the other 30days, retirement and Investment visas

 

Thank you Please answer this and we will have all the answers?

 

Sheeeesh! I don't have all the answers. Nobody has ever asked me about that and I have never investigated. My best guess is that the only thing that is going to change is the 30-days. Nothing else has been publicized and nothing has been said about changing anything other than the 30-days. If an under-50 year old guy was able to get a multiple O and B type Visa, to stay for a year, before now, then I know of no reason to assume that anything different will be the case in the foreseeable future.

 

I suggest checking with the Thai embassy or the various Thai consulates in one's home country to find out. What I do know is that different consulates seem to make up their own rules about what it takes to get visas.

[Up2u]

Sheeeesh! I don't have all the answers. Nobody has ever asked me about that and I have never investigated. My best guess is that the only thing that is going to change is the 30-days. Nothing else has been publicized and nothing has been said about changing anything other than the 30-days. If an under-50 year old guy was able to get a multiple O and B type Visa, to stay for a year, before now, then I know of no reason to assume that anything different will be the case in the foreseeable future.

 

I suggest checking with the Thai embassy or the various Thai consulates in one's home country to find out. What I do know is that different consulates seem to make up their own rules about what it takes to get visas.

This is a hot topic on the TV forum with many threads and posts. I haven't read anything about under 50s and multiple O or B visas. From Sunbeltasia on TV:

 

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=82975

 

News from the new regulation:

 

1.Retirement Visa extension. If you have a foreign married spouse who is a dependent they will be able to get this dependent visa. ( change of what has been happing the last couple weeks in Bangkok)

 

Example: You are 52 years old and you have a 34 year old wife who is from Germany, she can be a dependent. You only need 800,000 or a pension of 65,000 Baht per month as a couple.

 

2.Retirement visa extension: If you have children under 20. They will no longer be able to get a dependent visa based on you having an extension of stay on retirement. Immigration wants these kids to get it based on education so they go to school.

 

3.Investment Visa extension: Will no longer be available after Oct 1st for new applicants on 3 million Baht.

 

4. Investment visa extension. For existing extension of stay holders of 3 million Baht, we are now being told this will now be grandfathered in and they will be able to get the extension forever as long as they renew.

 

5.Now the news for frequent visitors: We have checked this upwards and backwards all day and it has been confirmed by a copy of the new regulation we have. If you have a visa on arrival or a Tourist Visa Exemption more than three times in six months, you cannot come into Thailand without a visa from an Embassy/Consulate. When you enter Thailand, even if you are here just 1 hour, this counts as 30 days. If you come back 6 weeks later for 2 days, this again is 30 days. If you arrive a month later for 4 days, still counts as 30 days. When you leave, you cannot enter Thailand for 3.5 months without coming back with a visa. The reason given is to force people who are supposed to have work permits to do so and pay tax.

 

Another example; you arrive for a week, this counts as 30 days, One month later 3 days and its 30 days, two months later and its for a two week period, still another 30 days. You can reenter Thailand in 6 weeks without having a visa.

 

The clock starts at zero on Oct 1st 2006, meaning everyone has a quota of three entries in the next six months. No matter how many previous entries you may have.

 

6.On extension of stay based support of a Thai national (Marriage visa), before if you applied for this extension of stay, you would get a 30 day consideration stamp. Once you return in 30 days you would get the one year extension. Now it will be the same as an extension of stay based on business with the norm of three 30 day consideration stamps. Immigration will go out and check to see if it

[Guest letmetellu]

Yes as I said in my post I know all this info you have put up its not new.

 

What many guys are looking for is how the under 50s can stay in Thailand for a year what visa will they need to get before they get here so they can stay here with no problem.

 

This I thought I made quite clear if you read my original post?

[Gaybutton]

Yes as I said in my post I know all this info you have put up its not new.

 

What many guys are looking for is how the under 50s can stay in Thailand for a year what visa will they need to get before they get here so they can stay here with no problem.

 

This I thought I made quite clear if you read my original post?

 

You made it quite clear. Unfortunately, nobody seems to know the answer as yet. I would imagine you might be able to get the answer through a visit to the Immigration Police office.

[Guest wowpow]

http://www.thaiembassyuk.org.uk/nonimmigrant.html

 

Friends get a Non Immigrant O Visa with Multiple entry for UK

[Guest wowpow]

PHUKET: -- The Royal Thai Consulate in neighboring Penang, Malaysia, has stopped issuing double-entry tourist visas for Thailand. The only tourist visa currently available there is a 60-day single-entry one.

 

An official at the consulate this afternoon told the Gazette that Consul Pramote Pramoonsab had issued an order to cease issuance of double-entry tourist visas.

 

Other visa categories are unaffected by the order, the official added.

 

The Royal Thai Consulate in Kota Bharu and the Royal Thai Embassy in Kuala Lumpur are, for the time being, still issuing double-entry tourist visas.

 

Fareeda Chewae of the Royal Thai Embassy in Kuala Lumpur warned that this may change in the near future, however.

 

The Gazette contacted the consulates following the news that from October 1 Thai Immigration will limit to three the number of visas on arrival it s officers will issue at Immigration checkpoints in Thailand.

 

To cope with the new policy, many long-stay

[Guest wowpow]

Royal Thai Police

Order No. 608 / 2549

Subject: An authorization for permission to foreigners that are exempted from the Visa requirements to stay temporarily in the Kingdom of Thailand.

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As the Interior Ministerial Regulation has stipulated the criterions, practices and conditions regarding the verification, exception and the changes in the Visa requirements B.E. 2545 (2002) dated on 16th August B.E. 2545 (2002) and the Ministerial Regulation (Volume 2) B.E. 2546 (2003) dated on 28th March B.E. 2546 (2003) prescribed the criterions, practices and conditions regarding the exception in the Visa requirements pursuant to the Article 12 (1) of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979).

 

For supporting the approval permission to the foreign nationals who are exempted from Visa requirements when entering to temporarily stay in the Kingdom of Thailand to be in order pursuant to the intention of the Thai Government, under the virtue of the Article 35 of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) and the Article 11 (4) of Royal Thai Police Act B.E. 2547 (2004), the authorized Immigration Officer shall be lawfully appointed and authorized to permit the foreign nationals who get the exemption of Visa requirements for entering to temporarily stay in the Kingdom of Thailand in accordance with the following types of exemption:

 

1. Passport holder of the country that has made an agreement with the Thai government, according to the Interior Ministerial Regulation which stipulated the criterions, practices and conditions regarding the verification, exception and the changes in the Visa requirements B.E. 2545 (2002) dated on 16th August B.E. 2545 (2002), Article 13 (1), shall be permitted to have the right to stay in Thailand according to the period which is mutually agreed between the government of Thailand and the government of the passport holder.

 

2. Passport holder from the country which has no Royal Thai Embassy or the Royal Thai Consulate located in that country as the Minister of the Interior has stipulated under the consent of the Cabinet, according to the Interior Ministerial Regulation which stipulated the criterions, practices and conditions regarding the verification, exception and the changes in the visa requirements B.E. 2545 (2002) dated on 16th August B.E. 2545 (2002), Article 13 (2), shall be permitted to stay in Thailand not exceeding to 30 days from the arrival date.

 

3. According the Article 13 (3) of the Ministerial Regulation which stipulated the criterions, practices and conditions regarding the verification, exception and the changes in the visa requirements B.E. 2545 (2002) dated on 16th August B.E. 2545 (2002), within six months period, the holder of passport or substitutive documents which issued by any country that is approved by the Minister of the Interior, under the approval of the Cabinet, to enter to temporarily stay in Thailand for tourism purpose, shall be permitted to enter Thailand several times. Each permitted time shall not be exceeding 30 days period, and the total period shall not be exceeding 90 days from the first day that the passport holder arrived in Thailand.

 

4. According the Article 13 (4) of the Ministerial Regulation which stipulated the criterions, practices and conditions regarding the verification, exception and the changes in the visa requirements B.E. 2545 (2002) dated on 16th August B.E. 2545 (2002), the holder of passport or other substitutive documents who enter to temporarily stay in the Kingdom of Thailand for the conference or the international sport contest shall be permitted to stay in the Kingdom not more than 30 days from the day arrived in the Kingdom of Thailand.

 

5. According the Article 13 (5) of the Ministerial Regulation which stipulated the criterions, practices and conditions regarding the verification, exception and the changes in the visa requirements B.E. 2545 (2002) dated on 16th August B.E. 2545 (2002), the holder of passport or other substitutive documents of the country that is the member of Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) and holds the APEC businessman passport who enters to temporarily stay in the Kingdom of Thailand for business purpose shall be permitted to stay in the Kingdom not more than 90 days from the day arrived in the Kingdom of Thailand.

 

6. This Order shall be supersede to all other rules, regulations and orders that are conflicted with this Order.

 

 

This Order shall be in full force commencing from this 1st day of October 2006

 

Order dated on 8th September 2006

 

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It's done!

 

"Each permitted time shall not be exceeding 30 days period, and the total period shall not be exceeding 90 days from the first day that the passport holder arrived in Thailand." and "within six months period" seem to be the relevant bits for many.