a-447 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 10 hours ago, Bingo T Dog said: Will MERCEDES be by his side as the first lady? And will Trump and wife Mercedes be visiting Israel, the capital of Israel? Stable Genius and Bingo T Dog 1 1 Quote
a-447 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 After visiting Israel in Israel Donald and Mercedes could pop across to Turkiye to say "hi" to its president and new bestie, Victor Orban. They could then invite Victor to come to America. They could stay at one of Trump's successful hotels or casinos. Oh, wait......... “The Trump Taj Mahal, which was built and owned by President Trump, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1991. The Trump Plaza, the Trump Castle, and the Plaza Hotel, all owned by President Trump at the time, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1992. THCR, which was founded by President Trump in 1995, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2004. Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc., the new name given to Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts after its 2004 bankruptcy, declared bankruptcy in 2009.” Never mind. He could make it up to Orban by offering his grandkids places in Trump University. Oh, wait........ "Trump University, founded by President Trump in 2005, ceased operations in 2011 amid lawsuits and investigations regarding the company’s business practices." Never mind. He could console Orban with a nice steak, washed down by a glass of Trump vodka. Oh, wait.... "Trump Vodka, a brand of vodka produced by Drinks Americas under license from the Trump Organization, was introduced in 2005 and discontinued in 2011.” "Trump Steaks, a brand of steak and other meats founded by President Trump in 2007, discontinued sales two months after its launch.” I know! Trump could organise for Orban to have a holiday in Thighland on his way back home. If he is he's not too keen on that, he could go to Boston for a few days on Trump Airlines. On, wait..... "GoTrump.com, a travel site founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007." "Two years after he launched Trump Shuttle, the airline wasn’t making enough money to even cover the $1 million monthly interest payment on his loan. Trump ultimately defaulted, surrendering ownership of the airline to his creditors." As a parting souvenir of his time with the Trump's, he could go home with one of Trump: The Game boardgames. Oh, wait.... "Despite its flashy TV ad, the game sold only 800,000 copies — less than half the 2 million units the company expected to move. When it was discontinued in 1990, Trump chalked the game’s dismal sales up to the fact that it might have been “too complicated.” Oh.....well how about a few copies of Trump Magazine. They'd make good reading on the long flight home. Oh, wait.... That business folded in 2009. Mmmm.....maybe Orban should decline Trump's invitation and visit his mate, Putin, instead. Afterall, apparently he'd just have to walk across the border straight into Russia. ............................................. Yep, those magamaniacs - each one a 'stable genius' -sure know how to pick 'em! Marc in Calif, Bingo T Dog, Stable Genius and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote
EmmetK Posted February 26 Posted February 26 How out-of-touch are the posters here? According to the Harvard/Harris poll out today you guys are VERY out-of-touch with no sense of reality.: https://www.stagwellglobal.com/february-harvard-caps-harris-poll-immigration-remains-top-issue-as-voters-say-bidens-biggest-failure-is-his-open-borders-policy/ Voters say Biden’s biggest failure was creating an open borders policy and a historic flood of immigrants. 62% of voters support impeaching Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, including 48% of Democrats. 55% of voters supported Trump’s calls to stop the Senate’s compromise immigration bill, which would have allowed 5,000 migrants to enter per day until new measures kicked in. 59% of voters say age and memory lapses are inadequate justification for Special Counsel Robert Hur not pursuing criminal charges in the classified documents case Trump beats Biden by 6 points in the head-to-head matchup. 57% of voters say they approve of the job Trump did as president 82% of voters support Israel over Hamas (with 72% support among 18-24-year-olds, their highest percentage to date). 63% of voters support Israel continuing its ground invasion into Southern Gaza to root out the final elements of Hamas. These numbers are STAGGERING for Dementia Joe. And if Harvard/Harris which is run by Mark Penn, a long time democrat operative, and official in the Clinton administration, has Trump up by 6 points in a head-to-head match with Dementia Joe, you can bet its probably closer to 16 points. You guys can keep deluding yourselves. Every indication points to a huuuuge Trump victory in the fall. But if it makes you feel better, than you can keep calling Trump stupid names, keep posting silly JPEGS, and keep thinking that Dementia Joe has a chance to win... lol! Marc in Calif 1 Quote
a-447 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 "57% of voters say they approve of the job Trump did as president" So, why did he lose the election? Rather than banging on about how Trump will win the election, shouldn't you be concentrating on the man himself and whether or not such a person is suitable for the position of potus? You are promiting a serial liar a convicted sex offender who boasts about grabbing women "by the pussy" a failed businessman a grown man who calls his opponents childish names someone who commits treason by suggesting Russia invade recalcitrant Nato countries a former president who debases the office by selling shoes a self-confessed billionaire who shamelessly asks the poor and uneducated to send him money they can ill-afford a sham Christian who cannot name a single passage in the bible and who ignores the 10 commandments a pathological narcissist whose followers think he cares about them but who abandons them when convenient (think about the families of the Jan 6 insurrectionists languishing in prison. Has Trump been supporting them financially?) A potus who refused to accept his defeat and tried to hold onto office by fomenting discontent among his followers by telling them he had won, thereby leading to an attempt to take over the government a serial adulterer ................. I could go on and on, but you get the picture. He's hardly a role-model, or someone to be admired. You need to aim higher. Bingo T Dog, forky123, Marc in Calif and 1 other 2 2 Quote
Mavica Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Quote 57% of voters say they approve of the job Trump did as president a-447: 155.5 million people cast a ballot in the 2020 Presidential election. Biden beat Trump easily. Americans spoke, loudly: more than 81 million people chose Biden, rather than Trump. Quote "The February Harvard CAPS / Harris poll survey was conducted online within the United States on February 21-22, 2024, among 2,022 registered voters by The Harris Poll and HarrisX." Most people don't respond to polling, when asked. In this instance, the equivalent of fewer than 0.0015% of the number of persons who casted a ballot in 2022 responded to this one. This and most other polling, is not worth the paper it's written on. ➡Remember: Responding to trolls only encourages them. Bingo T Dog and Marc in Calif 1 1 Quote
forky123 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 3 hours ago, a-447 said: "57% of voters say they approve of the job Trump did as president" So, why did he lose the election? Rather than banging on about how Trump will win the election, shouldn't you be concentrating on the man himself and whether or not such a person is suitable for the position of potus? You are promiting a serial liar a convicted sex offender who boasts about grabbing women "by the pussy" a failed businessman a grown man who calls his opponents childish names someone who commits treason by suggesting Russia invade recalcitrant Nato countries a former president who debases the office by selling shoes a self-confessed billionaire who shamelessly asks the poor and uneducated to send him money they can ill-afford a sham Christian who cannot name a single passage in the bible and who ignores the 10 commandments a pathological narcissist whose followers think he cares about them but who abandons them when convenient (think about the families of the Jan 6 insurrectionists languishing in prison. Has Trump been supporting them financially?) A potus who refused to accept his defeat and tried to hold onto office by fomenting discontent among his followers by telling them he had won, thereby leading to an attempt to take over the government a serial adulterer ................. I could go on and on, but you get the picture. He's hardly a role-model, or someone to be admired. You need to aim higher. You missed an important one. Someone who deliberately mishandled state secrets and likely gave them to foreign powers. Until the document case is resolved Trump should fail any vetting. Quote
a-447 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 1 hour ago, forky123 said: You missed an important one. Someone who deliberately mishandled state secrets and likely gave them to foreign powers. Until the document case is resolved Trump should fail any vetting. As I said, I could go on and on. Mavica, it wasn't me who said "57% of voters say they approve of the job Trump did as president". That was a quote posted by EmmetK. Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted February 27 Members Posted February 27 14 hours ago, EmmetK said: 57% of voters say they approve of the job Trump did as president It's an interesting poll. I'll be boring and detailed-oriented. Sorry. This particular poll - Harvard/Harris - always manages to come up with a result that skews toward Trump. That's not a criticism. But I'd factor in that this polling leans one way and not the other. I think it's partly because of how they phrase the questions. Asking people to choose "Israel v. Hamas" as a way to gauge support for Israel is like asking people to choose between "Jews v. Hitler". Of course I would choose Israel, and Jews. Hopefully everyone would. By framing it that way, the pollsters state that 82 % of voters support Israel over Hamas. That tells us nothing about how and why Biden might lose Michigan and the Presidency in November, thanks to Bibi Netanyahu's adamant opposition to peace with Palestinians. I still think the Biden Presidency is in mortal danger because since October young voters are disgusted, repulsed, and deeply angry about Biden on Gaza. Will young voters who lean Democratic vote for a POTUS who repulses and disgusts them? What to do about that is way more helpful to focus on than some bullshit measure of "support for Israel" if Democrats want to win. We all know Trump has opened up a slight lead in the polls. We all know it is because of Democrats and some Independents abandoning Biden. Not Trump Republicans, who never supported him. The statement that probably hurts Biden the most in that poll is this: Quote 71% of voters think price increases and inflation have proven to be sticky and are here to stay – including 58% of Democrats and 87% of Republicans. Immigration matters, too. But if you just go by the numbers 71 % of voters being concerned about prices is about the biggest majority in that poll. There's no way to prove it. But when people say they approve of the Trump Presidency, they are clearly not talking about Jan. 6th, after they fired him. Or his handling of COVID, which is partly why they fired him. They are talking about this, probably, which I posted in another thread and will repost here: Why Americans pine for the Trump economy Again, to be boring and technical, that headline is not quite right. There is no poll that says Americans "pine" for the "Trump economy" because prices were lower. But it makes sense that if they were given a choice between gas prices going up 33 % or 10 %, voters would rather have cheaper gas. Duh! If this election is a referendum on Bidenflation, Trump will win. That survey says that people see lower prescription drug prices as one of Biden's biggest accomplishments. Trump tried and failed to repeal Obamacare, and the support it provides for affordable health care and not denying people insurance when they get sick. Where is that debate? When we have that debate, these poll numbers may change. Quote 45% of voters say their personal financial situation is getting worse – down from 64% in summer 2022. I actually take that as great news for Biden and Democrats. And it helps explain why Democrats, despite all the pessimism, are mostly winning actual elections and doing at least okay in polls. The 45 % of Americans who say things are getting worse are heavily skewed to MAGA Republicans. Some of whom are probably doing very well, but who are ideologically committed to the idea that the sky is falling, anyway. The fact that almost 20 % of Americans no longer feel they are doing worse is very significant. To be even more detailed, in the cross tabs 59 % of Republicans say right now their personal financial situation is getting worse. Is that true? Probably not. Should anyone care? Not really. What that probably tells us is they think Biden sucks. What a shocker! More concerning is that 48 % of Independents say their personal financial situation is getting worse, versus 52 % who say it is improving or staying the same. Pew says Biden won 52 % of Independents in 2020, compared to only 42 % who voted for Hillary in 2016. If the economy keeps growing, these numbers do not preclude 52 % of Independents from voting for Biden again. Even if it is simply because he is less of a crook, and there will be less chaos. A recent Fidelity survey found that 2 in 3 Americans think their personal financial situation will be better in 2024. 2024 certainly seems to be turning out that way so far. The stock market keeps reaching new highs. Wages have now been outstripping inflation for about a year. So when you factor out a MAGA minority that is committed to pessimism under Biden, it's not at all clear that most people feel the Biden economy sucks. But denying that people legitimately miss lower gas prices or lower grocery bills doesn't make any sense. Trump will beat that to death. He should. Here's another key finding of that poll that should worry Trump, and that Democrats will beat to death: Quote 54% think the New York judge’s recent ruling that Trump defrauded state banks was fair. Most political commentators see that New York case as the weakest link in the chain. Even Jeb Bush wrote a piece in the WSJ saying this judge's ruling was horrible. Apparently most Americans disagree, Jeb! The strongest link, which polls have proven for several years now, is that the vast majority of Democrats and Independents - plus maybe 20 % of Republicans - are absolutely appalled by what Trump did on Jan. 6th. And his lies and undermining of democracy. To my point, in the 200 pages of crosstabs 59 % of Independents say "Trump has committed crimes for which he should be convicted." That whole legal thing has yet to play out. But the majority of Independents already think Trump is guilty. So you can argue this one either way. Despite the fact that a majority of Americans agree with a judge that Trump is a crook, and in general they think Trump committed crimes, they still say they approve of his Presidency and will vote for him. Is that real? Probably, as a way people feel. Can we count on it to stick when the campaign gets going and people are focused on whether they really want Trump back, as Democrats are reminding voters what that really means? And as he is on trial for Jan. 6th? Those are very different questions. I also think part of how people feel right now is they are mostly hearing this about Trump: TRUMP IS WINNING. Donald Trump is a God, who is kicking the shit out of his opponents without even lifting a finger. TRUMP IS LOVED. TRUMP IS ADORED. TRUMP WINS. TRUMP WINS. TRUMP WINS. That's not even an opinion. That's a fact. Everybody likes a winner. Once this is an actual fight between Biden and Trump, and we learn Joe Biden can and will fight, and we talk about how Trump cut taxes for billionaires like himself while he tried to kill Obamacare, things may change. I'm way more worried about progressive Democrats and centrist Independents turning against Biden than I am about the MAGA minority. MAGA has always viewed Biden as an illegitimate President who didn't even win. On the question of progressive Democrats dumping Biden, mostly by just not voting, the polls and outcomes could not possibly be clearer. We know for a fact that Hillary lost in 2016 because a lot of Democrats who hate Trump would not vote for Hillary. In Michigan. Where, right now, the same people are saying they can't stomach Biden. We know for a fact that Trump is now leading in the polls because lots of young Democrats and some Independents are saying they can't stomach Biden. If Democrats don't focus on that, we will lose. Marc in Calif 1 Quote
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Members stevenkesslar Posted February 28 Members Posted February 28 On 2/26/2024 at 10:47 AM, EmmetK said: How out-of-touch are the posters here? According to the Harvard/Harris poll out today you guys are VERY out-of-touch with no sense of reality.: https://www.stagwellglobal.com/february-harvard-caps-harris-poll-immigration-remains-top-issue-as-voters-say-bidens-biggest-failure-is-his-open-borders-policy/ On 2/26/2024 at 10:47 AM, EmmetK said: 82% of voters support Israel over Hamas (with 72% support among 18-24-year-olds, their highest percentage to date). After looking at 200 pages of crosstabs on that poll, I agree with you that Democrats should be freaking out. But not for the reasons you say. This is another long and boring detail-oriented post. But any Democrat who cares about winning in 2024 should care about the details of how Biden's loss is starting to shape up. The clear fact staring us in the face today is that 14 % of Michigan Democrats, or about 100,000 voters, just said "fuck you" to Biden over Gaza by voting "uncommitted". However you slice it, that's more than enough nails to pound Biden's coffin shut in November. Probably even worse is that Biden got 562,000 votes - although something like 20 % of the vote is uncounted. In the 2020 Michigan Democratic primary, Sanders got about that many votes. Meaning he got wiped off the map by Biden, who got 840,000 votes. Yes, you can argue it is not a "real" primary. But in a year when lots of young voters are saying I didn't know I was voting for "Genocide Joe" in 2020 and I won't vote for him again, this is a big problem. "Uncommitted" got 1.2 % of the vote in Michigan in 2020. So getting 14 % in 2024 is a big problem, too. If you are a Jew, a Palestinian, or a Democrat, it's time to freak out. Because on the track we're on things are going to get more divisive and more deadly. And Jews and Palestinians and Democrats are the losers. The winners, as of right now, are Bibi Netanyahu, Donald Trump, and Republicans. Bibi is unpopular, for sure. But as of today he is getting to bomb the fuck out of Gaza, kill tens of thousands of Palestinians, and stir up deeper hopelessness about the possibility of peace. That's been his agenda as long as he has been in power. He's winning, as of today. The bombing continues. It's easy to imagine that in a year Trump is POTUS, and Bibi survives somehow. And then the goal really is to turn Gaza into a parking lot, paved with the blood of women and children. After all, what else are we supposed to do with Hamas? To take it to its logical conclusion, Gaza changes in status from an open air prison to an open air concentration camp. Whether you get bombed to death, starved to death, or dehydrated to death is simply a matter of details. To the degree that there are Jews or Republicans that want that, you're a winner. And OF COURSE it's not that we really want that. It's just that Hamas gave us no choice. Why would anyone want most Palestinian babies born prematurely to die stuffed in an incubator with other babies, like they are today? That line I cited in the Harvard/Harris poll above that claims voters 18 to 24 support "support Israel over Hamas" is at best deceptive. What's surprising to me is that young voters now view Israel itself net unfavorably. And they actually view the Palestinian Authority more favorably than Israel. This is unprecedented. It's the opposite of the reality I knew when I was an 18 to 24 year old Democrat. Back then South Africa was the apartheid state. Israel had a problem with the PLO. But most Democrats I knew felt Arafat was the one rejecting peace deals. I despised Arafat, and thought he was failing his people. I still feel that way. Even moreso now that I get to see how it played out for innocent Palestinians. But I also see very clearly how Israel is headed to being the new apartheid state among young Americans. Except it's worse. There was never a point where South Africa killed 30,000 Blacks. The Soweto uprising was a big nail in the coffin of apartheid. That killed maybe 700 people, which is a high estimate. Among all voters, Israel is viewed 51 % favorably and 28 % unfavorably. Among voters 18 to 24, Israel is viewed 43 % unfavorably and 38 % favorably. Among voters aged 24 to 35, it's a little better for Israel. Israel is viewed 43 % favorably, and 33 % unfavorably. Older voters overwhelmingly view Israel favorably. (The crosstabs are on Page 77.) Tell a young Democrat she is anti-Semitic, and these days she'll tell you she is against apartheid and genocide. She may also add that she is Jewish. Those numbers are for all voters. If they broke it down by age and party, there would be a large margin of error. But some of those young voters are Republicans, who are likely more favorable to Israel. (Although even with young Republicans, that's a question.) So it's rational to guess that all young Democrats under 35 now have a net unfavorable view of Israel. This opens up a massive policy fight in the Democratic Party that we are now just feeling the early tremors of. If you are an American or Israeli Jew who likes the idea of the strong bipartisan support Israel has enjoyed my entire lifetime, this is very bad news. We are headed into a policy war over arming and supporting Israel. Republicans will be mostly unified. Democrats will be deeply divided. Mostly be age. Guess how that plays out. Among Americans in general, 18 % view the Palestinian Authority favorably, and 48 % view it unfavorably. Among voters 18 to 24, 39 % view the Palestinian Authority favorably, and 35 % view it unfavorably. With 24 to 35 year olds, 31 % view the Palestinian Authority favorably, and 37 % view it unfavorably. But, again, it's rational to conclude that young Democrats under 35 now generally are on the side of the Palestinian Authority more than Israel. Which explains why so many young voters feel they could not live with themselves if they voted for "Genocide Joe" again. That is what they are saying. The most frightening thing I read in lots of stories about how young voters feel is this: Quote “I want to show the Democratic Party as a young person that you still need to earn our vote and if you don’t, the consequences will be your career,” McKenzie said. “A Republican getting elected isn’t the end. It is the beginning of a much larger fight.” The reason I find that terrifying is I agree with it, mostly. If I were 20 and pissed at Biden, I would probably feel exactly that way. Fuck him. Lose and go away, Genocide Joe. We'll deal with the consequences later. But no one will ever forget who nailed Joe Biden's coffin shut, and why. So if you ever want power again, Democrats, read the fucking memo. If Biden loses in 2024, no Democrat running in 2028 (assuming we still have elections) will be able to wholeheartedly embrace Israel. If it's four more years of Trump and Bibi, we'll probably have hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinians at that point. Mostly women and children. But, hey. What else were we supposed to do? Any Democrat who sympathizes with that point of view will be disqualified by young Democrats. In fairness, my guess is for most young voters turning against Biden it's the economy, stupid. They're not thinking long term strategy and world peace. They are thinking grocery bills, and gas prices. Many young voters are low information voters. One young Democratic activist interviewed said, correctly I think, that a lot of this problem will go away when a real campaign starts. Trump and Bibi are the ones who would gladly push Gaza into the sea if they could get away it. When young low information voters who are repulsed by "Genocide Joe" figure that out, which they will, some feelings will change. But, all that said, all it will take is 100,000 Democrats in Michigan (or a fraction of that) who feel like the voter I quoted above. And as of today we know for a fact there are at least that many Democrats who will gladly pound Joe Biden's coffin shut in Michigan to make a point. it's actually far worse than that. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on with polls that show Trump actually winning among the youngest voters. And, as recently as December, The Economist put out a poll showing voters under 30 favored Biden over Trump 53 to 24. But this Harvard/Harris poll is, to quote Biden, "over the top". It shows voters aged 18-24 (meanings ones mostly unable to vote in 2020) supporting Trump over Biden 55 to 34. (Page 102 in the crosstabs.) What the fuck? It's possible to dismiss it, since we're talking about a group of 134 people in one poll. But there are now so many polls and interviews of young voters that all point to a willingness to fire Biden for cause that it has to be taken seriously. I'm not arguing that Democrats should dump Biden. I completely agree with Allan Lichtman that would just make the problem worse. Then the splits in the Democratic Party would really come out. And I suspect The Economist poll is correct in this sense: if Democrats try very hard, we maybe could get a double digit margin against Trump among young voters, like in 2020. But Michigan just sent a huge message to Biden: we have the votes to fire you and your party if you don't give a shit how we feel. I've already started to put in my mind four more years of hell with Trump. The Israel part looks like this. The Arab world, who already has very negative views of the US, is already much worse. We are overwhelmingly viewed as Israel's partner in genocide. So forget about Trump and Bibi (or a successor who is worse) making any peace deals with Arabs. They'll instead focus on "containing" Hamas. All the demographic forces in Israel pushing it to be more and more far right will prevail. Whatever small space there is to make peace with Palestinians will be slammed shut, intentionally, by both the Israeli right and the US right, with Trump's blessing. Especially on what to do with those darn Palestinians. Which means the bloody and deadly siege Jon Stewart talked about in his piece this week. It's very easy to imagine over 100,000 dead Palestinians, deeper hate, deeper hopelessness. The idea that the IDF can somehow keep that from eventually exploding in the West Bank seems very unrealistic. So too does the idea that the Palestinian Authority will somehow become the IDF's surrogate in keeping the "bad Palestinians" in line. Because they are pretty much all "bad Palestinians" now, who - very predictably - have given up on peace. Too much hate, too much death, and too much time to dwell on it. So that will blow up, some way and some how. If I had a crystal ball and saw this as the future, which I think is a sober and realistic view, I would rather have it happen on Trump's watch. Then Democrats could organize and win the majority of Americans who will recoil against it in 2028. If most Democrats and Independents are recoiling against it under "Genocide Joe", it is almost certain that they will will recoil under the Bigger and Bloodier Trump 2.0 version. The young voter who said Trump winning in 2024 is the beginning of an even larger fight may be prescient. Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 2/18/2024 at 10:32 PM, EmmetK said: Trump fans have created a GoFundMe page. In only 2 days, donations are almost $400,000. Between the GoFundMe site and the Trump sneakers, that will go a long way to paying off whatever the ultimate liability is, if any, in the two civil cases, after the appeals have reduced the amounts. https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement I've already sent in a tidy donation. Not many Trump fans giving money. Only 2,350 per day contribute. 10 days website has been up. Total only up to $1,319,000. Rather sad for someone who sees himself as a SUPER STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps he and his fans should take off the rose colored glasses. stevenkesslar and Marc in Calif 1 1 Quote
Marc in Calif Posted March 4 Posted March 4 35 minutes ago, Bingo T Dog said: Not many Trump fans giving money. Why would they have to give him any money at all? He's a multi-billionaire, right? He must be dripping with spare cash and lots of liquid assets. 🥳 $455 million must be just chump change for Drumpf. Why does he need to get it from his followers? I'm so confused. 😕 stevenkesslar and Bingo T Dog 2 Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted March 7 Posted March 7 On 2/18/2024 at 10:32 PM, EmmetK said: Trump fans have created a GoFundMe page. In only 2 days, donations are almost $400,000. Between the GoFundMe site and the Trump sneakers, that will go a long way to paying off whatever the ultimate liability is, if any, in the two civil cases, after the appeals have reduced the amounts. https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement I've already sent in a tidy donation. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-won-t-let-trump-delay-carroll-penalties-leaving-just-days-to-cover-judgment/ar-BB1jvW8k?cvid=19750cd829a9485ad3cdda1d84227b50&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=17&sc=shoreline TIME TO PAY UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stable Genius 1 Quote
EmmetK Posted March 8 Posted March 8 3 hours ago, Bingo T Dog said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-won-t-let-trump-delay-carroll-penalties-leaving-just-days-to-cover-judgment/ar-BB1jvW8k?cvid=19750cd829a9485ad3cdda1d84227b50&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=17&sc=shoreline TIME TO PAY UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Almost every post you make comes with a link to msn.com. Apparently, that is the only website you get your news from. That, in a nutshell, explains a lot! Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted March 8 Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, EmmetK said: Almost every post you make comes with a link to msn.com. Apparently, that is the only website you get your news from. That, in a nutshell, explains a lot! Are you saying the info is wrong? Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted March 8 Posted March 8 George Santos says HI............... The best of the GOP............ On the short list for Trump VP.............. stevenkesslar 1 Quote
Members stevenkesslar Posted March 8 Members Posted March 8 12 hours ago, Bingo T Dog said: George Santos says HI............... The best of the GOP............ On the short list for Trump VP.............. Shame on you. I think they make a lovely couple. One is a cocksucker, and another is an asshole. The sex should be awesome. Stable Genius and Bingo T Dog 1 1 Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted March 18 Posted March 18 On 2/18/2024 at 10:32 PM, EmmetK said: Trump fans have created a GoFundMe page. In only 2 days, donations are almost $400,000. Between the GoFundMe site and the Trump sneakers, that will go a long way to paying off whatever the ultimate liability is, if any, in the two civil cases, after the appeals have reduced the amounts. https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement I've already sent in a tidy donation. Only $1,361,459 donated. This is SAD. Can't MAGA lovers come to the rescue of a OVER PRIVILEGED OBESE MAN? Stable Genius and stevenkesslar 1 1 Quote
EmmetK Posted March 20 Posted March 20 On 3/18/2024 at 3:23 PM, Bingo T Dog said: Can't MAGA lovers come to the rescue of a OVER PRIVILEGED OBESE MAN? Why should MAGA lovers come to the rescue of Jerrold Nadler? Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted March 20 Posted March 20 32 minutes ago, EmmetK said: Why should MAGA lovers come to the rescue of Jerrold Nadler? Trump makes him look like Twiggy!!!!!!!!!!!!! Marc in Calif and Stable Genius 1 1 Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Why can't all of trumps friends/family donate one million each? Hannity, Pirro, Ingraham, Don Jr, Eric, Ivanka, etc, etc????? Looks like even his best friends are deserting him. The only friends plump has left are the J6 Hostages and Elise Steflunkie. stevenkesslar, Marc in Calif and Stable Genius 3 Quote
Stable Genius Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 “Remember Donald used to tell us he was worth $10 billion? He should be rolling in money if that’s the case. And evidently, he has to depend on begging for money from people,” David Clay Johnson told CNN on Tuesday. “If you have $10 billion, this wouldn’t be a big deal,” said Johnston. “But if you don’t have $10 billion and you just claim it, that’s a whole other story.” Bingo T Dog and stevenkesslar 2 Quote
