Olddaddy Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Having not looked at the other gay forums for months, only to notice not as many posts as in the past. My question to older longer stay expats in Pattaya is , have you noticed less gay expats moving to Pattaya /Jomtien? If so, are all the "new" ones sociable as the ones say 20 years ago or more into their phones and more introverted? Is there any difference in this current retired gay expat generation in Pattaya? Do you think there are less gay expats retired in Pattaya than say 20 years ago or more or about the same? I know obviously many have passed on ,many we do not see post as in the past sadly which means they may have passed I did click on to read a few older posts on here and click on the posters names some of whom haven't been on the forum for years so I gather they have passed. Kokopelli , travellerJim ,Doug I guess time moves on Quote
bkkmfj2648 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I became a new retiree in Pattaya in September 2022 - but I have been visiting since 2014 off and on. So, I cannot speak for what has happened in the last 20 years. But I can share an observation that any of us visiting or living here has probably noticed - the distribution of people on the online apps (Grindr, Hornet, HeeSay, Romeo, etc.) - which in my opinion has shifted: From Asians and Farangs TO Russians, Asians, and Farangs I would venture to say that the Russians represent between 30% to 40% of the online community in Grindr and Hornet. In Romeo - predominantly a Farang and somewhat Asian hangout place it has shrunk in popularity but has not see this big influx of Russians. Regarding HeeSay (formerly BLUED), I am a new member - and I see a small farang representation and a much bigger Asian representation. Do you all think this shift in what we see of "who is online" is representative of what is happening in Pattaya in 2024? Regarding the 3 forums - you can definitely see that they are shrinking and dying off. What they have been replaced with I am not sure that there are any other social media vehicles that fill the role that these 3 forums did (Gaybutton, Sawatdee Gay Thailand, and GayGuides). Olddaddy and Boy69 2 Quote
vinapu Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I can't say much about Pattaya as on last trip I was there only 2 days but week or two ago while strolling Silom it dawned on me that while say 10 years ago majority of obvious tourists were Westerners now they are replaced by Asians. There were visits in bars where I was one of very few farangs in attendance and once in Tawan even boy sitting with me noticed ' you only farang in bar". Only place when one can still see farangs en masse is soi 4. Is this good or bad? I don't care who keeps our bars running and boys employed. So as long as I have fun for me this is cosmetic change but change it is. Only negative part of that shift for some may be that boys in bars are more overdressed now than in the past. I was told that this is what Asians like. Whether it's true , I don't know. I can live with guys on the stage in sexy , fitting jeans although ones in tracksuit pants are bit too much when boys esthetics are discussed. dscrtsldnbi, Olddaddy, reader and 1 other 4 Quote
ichigo Posted February 8 Posted February 8 20 minutes ago, vinapu said: I can't say much about Pattaya as on last trip I was there only 2 days but week or two ago while strolling Silom it dawned on me that while say 10 years ago majority of obvious tourists were Westerners now they are replaced by Asians. There were visits in bars where I was one of very few farangs in attendance and once in Tawan even boy sitting with me noticed ' you only farang in bar". I noticed this also in Tawan on my one visit, I think I saw 2 farang and the rest were asian customers (plus me who is half asian). And like you, I really don't mind who is in the audience as long as they keep the bars running and the boys employed! vinapu 1 Quote
Popular Post kokopelli3 Posted February 8 Popular Post Posted February 8 8 hours ago, Olddaddy said: I know obviously many have passed on ,many we do not see post as in the past sadly which means they may have passed I did click on to read a few older posts on here and click on the posters names some of whom haven't been on the forum for years so I gather they have passed. Kokopelli , travellerJim ,Doug I guess time moves on Kokopelli passed? I never knew that; sorry to read of his passing, he was like a twin brother to me. Olddaddy, Patanawet, KYTOP and 11 others 2 12 Quote
Members tm_nyc Posted February 8 Members Posted February 8 36 minutes ago, kokopelli3 said: he was like a twin brother to me. Sounds like the reports of his death are greatly exaggerated! Patanawet, vinapu and reader 2 1 Quote
Shonen Posted February 8 Posted February 8 As well as Traveler Jim, he is alive and well. WelshGuyUK, colmx and Patanawet 2 1 Quote
Moses Posted February 8 Posted February 8 12 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said: I would venture to say that the Russians represent between 30% to 40% of the online community in Grindr and Hornet. In Romeo - predominantly a Farang and somewhat Asian hangout place it has shrunk in popularity but has not see this big influx of Russians. Regarding HeeSay (formerly BLUED), I am a new member - and I see a small farang representation and a much bigger Asian representation. It hard depends on location. If I will fire Hornet in Moscow, 90% will be Russians here, 5% of Chinese and 5% Westerners. Speaking about Pattaya and TH in general. as well as about Vietnam and Goa - it is holiday time now, so many Russians flew to TH and VN for vacation. By the way: on New Year White Party this year in Bangkok about 60% were Chinese, Taiwanese, Singaporeans and Honkongers. Quote
macaroni21 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 4 hours ago, vinapu said: it dawned on me that while say 10 years ago majority of obvious tourists were Westerners now they are replaced by Asians. You've only noticed it now? I've been saying this for years now. It's also been there in the official tourism statistics for over a decade. Asian tourists far outnumber westerners in both the general as well as gay traffic. And here I qualify that I am not using "asian" in the UK sense where it means indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi, but I mean the oriental Asian (what a quaint term). Olddaddy, dscrtsldnbi and Marc in Calif 2 1 Quote
gerefan Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I frequently take my evening walk along the length of Dongtan Beach and back. I used to pass numerous other Brits (you could tell by the language) but this time, in the last 2 1/2 months, I haven’t heard any. Same in Jomtien generally and in Pattaya. I do pass numerous farangs but unfortunately don’t recognise their language. So not Western European (German French Dutch etc) as I would recognise them. Quote
Marc in Calif Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 hours ago, macaroni21 said: And here I qualify that I am not using "asian" in the UK sense where it means indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi, but I mean the oriental Asian (what a quaint term). If the term is "quaint," maybe you should just not use it at all? East Asian, South Asian, Southeast Asian, and Pacific Islander are very commonly used these days. We're long past the time when British usage rules the world. So if those tourists are inded from Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, or Korea, it's fine to describe them as East Asian. This isn't a matter of being "PC." It's a matter of being accurate and specific. 🎯 Quote
Olddaddy Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 7 hours ago, Shonen said: As well as Traveler Jim, he is alive and well. I'm glad to hear that . Quote
Olddaddy Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 19 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said: Regarding the 3 forums - you can definitely see that they are shrinking and dying off. What they have been replaced with I am not sure that there are any other social media vehicles that fill the role that these 3 forums did (Gaybutton, Sawatdee Gay Thailand, and GayGuides). I wonder what the new communication is among the current or future gay expats will be. Maybe they are more into Livestream or tiktok ? Quote
kokopelli3 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 16 hours ago, kokopelli3 said: Kokopelli passed? I never knew that; sorry to read of his passing, he was like a twin brother to me. Truth is, I did have a twin brother who did pass away. 😔 floridarob 1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 9 Posted February 9 18 minutes ago, kokopelli3 said: Truth is, I did have a twin brother who did pass away. 😔 But, it is good to know that the Koko that everyone knows and loves in GayThailand is still kicking and enjoying life. When I first read this, my heart sank but then a few seconds later in the read, you returned. Man, I hope that happens to me! kokopelli3, floridarob and vinapu 2 1 Quote
Moses Posted February 9 Posted February 9 8 hours ago, Olddaddy said: I wonder what the new communication is among the current or future gay expats will be. Maybe they are more into Livestream or tiktok ? Channels in Telegram are very popular. Especially for news... and porn Quote
Olddaddy Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 22 minutes ago, Moses said: Channels in Telegram are very popular. Especially for news... and porn Telegram? Never heard of it , I'm too old trying to keep up with these things Quote
Olddaddy Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 Im guessing the guys from Memories bar have passed? I wonder if Crabby from the Corner bar is still around , haven't heard from him for years . kokopelli3 1 Quote
Moses Posted February 9 Posted February 9 14 minutes ago, Olddaddy said: Telegram? Never heard of it , I'm too old trying to keep up with these things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(software) 800 000 000 users Olddaddy 1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 9 Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Olddaddy said: Im guessing the guys from Memories bar have passed? I wonder if Crabby from the Corner bar is still around , haven't heard from him for years . Memories was a great bar and great concept. I hope they are all doing well, Quote
kokopelli3 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Olddaddy said: Im guessing the guys from Memories bar have passed? I wonder if Crabby from the Corner bar is still around , haven't heard from him for years . Jack passed away this past year; Ralph is still with us as is Oud. Olddaddy 1 Quote
Keithambrose Posted February 9 Posted February 9 20 hours ago, Marc in Calif said: If the term is "quaint," maybe you should just not use it at all? East Asian, South Asian, Southeast Asian, and Pacific Islander are very commonly used these days. We're long past the time when British usage rules the world. So if those tourists are inded from Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, or Korea, it's fine to describe them as East Asian. This isn't a matter of being "PC." It's a matter of being accurate and specific. 🎯 Current definitions would be useful. I have assumed, for example, that South Asian means Indian, even though Indis goes far north!! vinapu and dscrtsldnbi 2 Quote
vinapu Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Keithambrose said: Current definitions would be useful. I have assumed, for example, that South Asian means Indian, even though Indis goes far north!! +1 Quote
Marc in Calif Posted February 9 Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Keithambrose said: Current definitions would be useful. I have assumed, for example, that South Asian means Indian, even though Indis goes far north!! Subregions of Asia according to geographers, anthropologists, and linguists South Asia: the entire subcontinent including India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and sometimes Afghanistan (they're all south of Russia and China, bounded to the south by the Indian Ocean and to the north by the Himalayas and adjacent mountain ranges) Southeast Asia: mainland from Burma in the northwest to Malaysia in the south, plus Singapore and islands of Indonesia and the Philippines in the east East Asia: Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Mongolia Pacific Islanders: Polynesia, Micro- and Melanesia, and sometimes the Philippines Central Asia: Uzbekistan and all the other -stans plus Iran, and sometimes central Russia, western China, Mongolia, and Afghanistan West Asia: Turkey and the entire Middle East including Saudi Arabia and the Gulf nations, and sometimes Iran Boy69 and reader 2 Quote
