Trip Report (Jan 2024)

[Keithambrose]

2 hours ago, reader said:

You're right that it's about demand. For high rollers, 7-8k is no barrier and those are the customers these guys cater to.

In most major US and European cities, 7-8k is more the norm.

7-8k is really the minimum in UK. .

[Marc in Calif]

9 hours ago, floridarob said:

@namazu used to say he has a Generic Asian Face....🧐

You can see hundreds of those faces on the following site. They appear to be based on a number of typical facial features among Asian ethnicities. The site also enables you to select filters to show specific "types" according to your preferences.

AI-generated asian person faces
https://generated.photos/faces/asian-race

[Olddaddy]

Fantastic report , lot of effort, it's reports like that I appreciate the poster has taken a lot of time with , thanks 👍

[ichigo]

2 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

Fantastic report , lot of effort, it's reports like that I appreciate the poster has taken a lot of time with , thanks 👍

Thank you! I learn a lot from these forums and get lots of ideas for my trips, so I am happy to give back.

[Boy69]

14 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

7-8k is really the minimum in UK. .

For Thailand it's outrageous amount about 80 percent of minimum month salary.

[Shonen]

20 hours ago, srvhakko said:

Yes, supply is limited and demand is high. After a few months Mr.Mean can increase his price even more because according to my observations he has a lot of fans especially from asian countries.

To each their own. I’m glad I don’t prefer the model types. There are many cute twinks in Pattaya that I pay average about 1,500 baht. My two offs from the go gos were ok, but they stress money and time, a real negative.

The twinks in host bars aren’t expensive and take their time, for the most part. And plenty to be found.

[10tazione]

I personally find it pretty arrogant to claim that a certain amount for offering sex work is "outragegous", instead of being happy that there are people willing to do it at all.

[Olddaddy]

4 minutes ago, 10tazione said:

I personally find it pretty arrogant to claim that a certain amount for offering sex work is "outragegous", instead of being happy that there are people willing to do it at all.

Your spot on , I  have to agree with you on that .👍

[spoon]

58 minutes ago, Boy69 said:

For Thailand it's outrageous amount about 80 percent of minimum month salary.

What does a highly sought after gay escort in UK makes per hour btw? Thats would be a fairer comparison.

[floridarob]

34 minutes ago, 10tazione said:

I personally find it pretty arrogant to claim that a certain amount for offering sex work is "outragegous", instead of being happy that there are people willing to do it at all.

Being the oldest profession in the world.....how do You feel  about a plumber, teacher, fire fighter, paramedic .....??

[Boy69]

58 minutes ago, 10tazione said:

I personally find it pretty arrogant to claim that a certain amount for offering sex work is "outragegous", instead of being happy that there are people willing to do it at all.

I meant for me it's outrageous amount to pay s8k for ST in Thailand, everybody can do with their money whatever they want if client and model agreed for 8k good for them I am not criticising it at all.

 

1 hour ago, Shonen said:

To each their own. I’m glad I don’t prefer the model types. There are many cute twinks in Pattaya that I pay average about 1,500 baht. My two offs from the go gos were ok, but they stress money and time, a real negative.

The twinks in host bars aren’t expensive and take their time, for the most part. And plenty to be found.

Same for me  model type is not my taste at all , Many twinks can he found in Grindr for reasonable prices.

[10tazione]

13 minutes ago, Boy69 said:

I meant for me it's outrageous amount to pay s8k for ST in Thailand, everybody can do with their money whatever they want if client and model agreed for 8k good for them I am not criticising it at all.

 

sorry for misunderstanding you!

[Keithambrose]

8 hours ago, spoon said:

What does a highly sought after gay escort in UK makes per hour btw? Thats would be a fairer comparison.

£300 to 500. Short time! 

[siriusBE]

Switzerland is one of the most expensive countries on this planet. But a short time is normally in the range of 150-300 Swiss franks (160-320 Euro or 170-340$). If I hear prices like 8k in TH then all I can do is shake my head. Don't take that as offensive, everybody can do with his money what he likes to do. But this boy earns so much money in one night that his farming family in Isan has to work for a whole month. His attractiveness will fade at some point and then he will find it difficult to lead a normal life. As I said, please don't take this as a reproach, just random thinking 😉

[spoon]

2 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

£300 to 500. Short time! 

Im pretty sure short time there is 1 hour. While in thailand, short time can range from 30min to 2 hour. 

[Londoner]

In EuropeI think you'll find that one hour means exactly that.

I can remember some Thai guys spending time with me  before and after the event, particularly those who had a good grasp of English. I kept the refrigerator well-stocked with  drinks. Soft drinks, before you ask.

I learnt a lot  from them in my early visits; about life in the rural areas, why they came to Pattaya, what life was like for them on the scene...it was part of the Pattaya experience for me and very different to what I  had experienced in Amsterdam  "houses", my only previous experiences. 

Different and better. And cheaper.

[Keithambrose]

6 hours ago, spoon said:

Im pretty sure short time there is 1 hour. While in thailand, short time can range from 30min to 2 hour. 

Correct!

[dscrtsldnbi]

11 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

£300 to 500. Short time! 

I'd say that the current average price in London will be £200-250/h. Obviously, there are providers who charge (significantly) more - just as there are some who charge (significantly) less. I am always highly suspicious of these statistical outliers.

And yes, an hour means an hour.

[dscrtsldnbi]

7 minutes ago, dscrtsldnbi said:

I'd say that the current average price in London will be £200-250/h. Obviously, there are providers who charge (significantly) more - just as there are some who charge (significantly) less. I am always highly suspicious of these statistical outliers.

And yes, an hour means an hour.

Some current examples (all these are well-established reputable businesses that have been operating for several years):
https://www.romeo.com/hunq/Mehdi_THICK_XXL

https://www.romeo.com/hunq/BlackTop

https://www.romeo.com/hunq/Dom_Top_XXX

 

[Keithambrose]

2 hours ago, dscrtsldnbi said:

I'd say that the current average price in London will be £200-250/h. Obviously, there are providers who charge (significantly) more - just as there are some who charge (significantly) less. I am always highly suspicious of these statistical outliers.

And yes, an hour means an hour.

I was responding to a query about 'highly sought after' escorts, and there are quite a few in the 300 to 500 bracket. As I said earlier,  200 is a more normal average!

[Keithambrose]

1 minute ago, Keithambrose said:

I was responding to a query about 'highly sought after' escorts, and there are quite a few in the 300 to 500 bracket. As I said earlier,  200 is a more normal average!

And note that a lot of the highly sought after escorts do not put a price, they just say 'ask me'. 

[dscrtsldnbi]

1 hour ago, Keithambrose said:

I was responding to a query about 'highly sought after' escorts, and there are quite a few in the 300 to 500 bracket. As I said earlier,  200 is a more normal average!

 I am with you 100%. It all depends on how 'highly sought after' is defined, of course. The ones I gave as an example are also in this category (at least, as far as I can see it) but indeed, there are those who charge (significantly) more - and even more than £500. Presumably, they are even more popular.

[Keithambrose]

8 hours ago, dscrtsldnbi said:

 I am with you 100%. It all depends on how 'highly sought after' is defined, of course. The ones I gave as an example are also in this category (at least, as far as I can see it) but indeed, there are those who charge (significantly) more - and even more than £500. Presumably, they are even more popular.

Indeed. There is one guy I see who charges 300. I think he is great, a black guy, but whether that means he is highly sought after, I don't know! Danny Delano,  an attractive twink, charges 500. He is big on Only Fans, Twitter,  porn movies, etc. Perhaps a high profile is the definition of highly sought after! I haven't tried him, I am happier in the 200 market!

[vinapu]

On 2/1/2024 at 8:54 PM, Boy69 said:

For Thailand it's outrageous amount about 80 percent of minimum month salary.

It always puzzles me what minimum salary has to do with selling one's ass or pussy for that matter. 

Few of willing guys and /or girls are doing that in Thailand to avoid death from hunger. Rather they are looking for way to supplement what thay earn using whatever assets they have at their disposal. 

In few minutes I'm expecting guy to arrive on new shiny motorcycle. Should I sermon him about minimum salary? I don't think so and I'm sure neither do you. 

[vinapu]

On 2/1/2024 at 9:43 PM, 10tazione said:

I personally find it pretty arrogant to claim that a certain amount for offering sex work is "outragegous", instead of being happy that there are people willing to do it at all.

Spot on my friend. You said it better than I would as my lack of schooling shows up from time to time.