Trip Report (Jan 2024)

[vinapu]

On 2/1/2024 at 10:19 PM, floridarob said:

Being the oldest profession in the world.....how do You feel  about a plumber, teacher, fire fighter, paramedic .....??

Thay have steady, mostly government jobs with generous, benefits, they can hold till quite advanced age and still be sought while raraly if at all that can be said about escorts. In certain professions older you are more in demand you may be but very few whores can say that. 

[Olddaddy]

Yes gone are the days of the majority of "sex workers" are the starving boys we used to see 25 years ago in sunee

Now many ,not all , but many are second jobbers 

[10tazione]

Sorry for derailing this thread even more, but I had to google "oldest prostitutes in the world" and found this 12/11 year old articles:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/sep/17/oldest-prostitutes-amsterdam-70-twins

Meet the oldest prostitutes in Amsterdam – they're 70-year-old twins [...]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/amsterdam-s-2-oldest-prostitutes-retire-after-50-years-1.1394319

The longest working prostitutes in Amsterdam, twin sisters Louise and Martine Fokkens, have officially retired — but only after 50 years of work and over 350,000 clients served.

"I was a little bit tired," Louise told As It Happens host Carol Off in an interview that aired March 18. [...]

[Keithambrose]

On 2/1/2024 at 3:39 PM, Boy69 said:

I meant for me it's outrageous amount to pay s8k for ST in Thailand, everybody can do with their money whatever they want if client and model agreed for 8k good for them I am not criticising it at all.

 

Same for me  model type is not my taste at all , Many twinks can he found in Grindr for reasonable prices.

Yes, I find Grindr very good!

[dscrtsldnbi]

1 hour ago, 10tazione said:

Sorry for derailing this thread even more, but I had to google "oldest prostitutes in the world" and found this 12/11 year old articles:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/sep/17/oldest-prostitutes-amsterdam-70-twins

Meet the oldest prostitutes in Amsterdam – they're 70-year-old twins [...]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/amsterdam-s-2-oldest-prostitutes-retire-after-50-years-1.1394319

The longest working prostitutes in Amsterdam, twin sisters Louise and Martine Fokkens, have officially retired — but only after 50 years of work and over 350,000 clients served.

"I was a little bit tired," Louise told As It Happens host Carol Off in an interview that aired March 18. [...]

That could be used a definition of a 'niche market'.

[dscrtsldnbi]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

Few of willing guys and /or girls are doing that in Thailand to avoid death from hunger. Rather they are looking for way to supplement what thay earn using whatever assets they have at their disposal. 

 

I very much agree. I met guys who did it only as a short-term stunt to raise some fixed amount of money for a particular project. For example, one of them told me years ago (he was a Parisian) that he needed several grand to fix a ceiling in his flat that he inherited from his grandparents in a very poor condition. Another one was collecting money to pay off his university debt, another one was upgrading his motorcycle... A most striking example (again, we are talking 15 years back or so) was a rather mature (he was about 35 at the time) PhD lecturer from the Catholic University of Leuven who was also supplementing his uni salary by escorting. He said he had an exceptionally high sex drive (he did) and it was the simplest, the most pleasant and the most straightforward way to get some extra tax-free cash, as far as he was concerned. And thank God they all did what they did.

[gerefan]

2 hours ago, 10tazione said:

 

The longest working prostitutes in Amsterdam, twin sisters Louise and Martine Fokkens, have officially retired — but only after 50 years of work and over 350,000 clients served.

 

A little bit of basic maths…

350000/2 = 175000 fucks each. 
50 years is 50X365 = 18250 days

So 175000 fucks divided by 18250 days = 9.5 fucks per day EVERY day. No rest days or holidays.

Typical press nonsense. 

[dscrtsldnbi]

2 hours ago, gerefan said:

Typical press nonsense. 

Indeed. Am I the only one who has noticed their surname - Fokkens? I won't be surprised if The Grauniad and CBC were reposting without fact-checking (oh, what a shocker!). It all looks more like a Babylon Bee news piece ('Fake News You Can Trust!').

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, gerefan said:

A little bit of basic maths…

350000/2 = 175000 fucks each. 
50 years is 50X365 = 18250 days

So 175000 fucks divided by 18250 days = 9.5 fucks per day EVERY day. No rest days or holidays.

Typical press nonsense. 

They are throwing those numbers hoping nobody will do what you just did I. E. run through the numbers thrown at us

[Olddaddy]

On 2/2/2024 at 2:39 AM, Boy69 said:

I meant for me it's outrageous amount to pay s8k for ST in Thailand, everybody can do with their money whatever they want if client and model agreed for 8k good for them I am not criticising it at all.

Everyone has their price ,even you !

Vinapu would be expensive though 😀🥰

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

 

Vinapu would be expensive though 😀🥰

I need money for my boys

[floridarob]

6 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

Everyone has their price ,even you !

Disagree.....

Any of the guys that have sex with men and get hard/cum...are not 100% straight to begin with, even if they watch a straight porn on their phone, no matter how many times they say they are straight.

What is straight....I was in Mexico City cruising the Bella Artes area. I went into a McDonalds and the cashier was so handsome, I kept going back. Finally I asked if he wanted to do something. He said no, he's not like that...I said you'd make more in an hour or two than you make all week....he acknowledged that to be true, said he gets propositioned frequently but he's not like that, he can't even think about being with a man, he'd rather be poor. I offered to take him out on his day off to dinner, he said no, because I know it will lead to more pressure for sex and he didn't want to feel uncomfortable. 

That to me is straight , he wasn't homophobic, was really pleasant to talk to and nice,  I got up to $500 usd and he said no, lol

Now you can say if we said 10k or 1 million would he still say no......I don't have that kind of money to back it up  in case he said yes 😝

[Boy69]

On 2/4/2024 at 9:55 AM, vinapu said:

It always puzzles me what minimum salary has to do with selling one's ass or pussy for that matter. 

Few of willing guys and /or girls are doing that in Thailand to avoid death from hunger. Rather they are looking for way to supplement what thay earn using whatever assets they have at their disposal. 

In few minutes I'm expecting guy to arrive on new shiny motorcycle. Should I sermon him about minimum salary? I don't think so and I'm sure neither do you. 

You probably didn't read my clarification comment afterwards for me it's outrageous amount to pay such excessive amounts in Thailand what others do with their money it's not my business.

On 2/1/2024 at 5:39 PM, Boy69 said:

I meant for me it's outrageous amount to pay s8k for ST in Thailand, everybody can do with their money whatever they want if client and model agreed for 8k good for them I am not criticising it at all.

 

Same for me  model type is not my taste at all , Many twinks can he found in Grindr for reasonable prices.

 

[Shonen]

On 2/5/2024 at 9:39 AM, floridarob said:

Disagree.....

Any of the guys that have sex with men and get hard/cum...are not 100% straight to begin with, even if they watch a straight porn on their phone, no matter how many times they say they are straight.

What is straight....I was in Mexico City cruising the Bella Artes area. I went into a McDonalds and the cashier was so handsome, I kept going back. Finally I asked if he wanted to do something. He said no, he's not like that...I said you'd make more in an hour or two than you make all week....he acknowledged that to be true, said he gets propositioned frequently but he's not like that, he can't even think about being with a man, he'd rather be poor. I offered to take him out on his day off to dinner, he said no, because I know it will lead to more pressure for sex and he didn't want to feel uncomfortable. 

That to me is straight , he wasn't homophobic, was really pleasant to talk to and nice,  I got up to $500 usd and he said no, lol

Now you can say if we said 10k or 1 million would he still say no......I don't have that kind of money to back it up  in case he said yes 😝

I was so sure the story would end up you having gotten him. That’s a great story though. It’s nice to know some boys have morals. Those are the ones I tend to avoid though.

[Keithambrose]

On 2/4/2024 at 8:01 PM, Olddaddy said:

Everyone has their price ,even you !

Vinapu would be expensive though 😀🥰

Depends on what stamps you have......

[JakeDeFake]

Noobie here, so plz have patience. Awesome detailed report. Thanks for posting locations and your feedback. Invaluable info as I plan my first trip.

[reader]

On 2/5/2024 at 9:39 AM, floridarob said:

Any of the guys that have sex with men and get hard/cum...are not 100% straight to begin with, even if they watch a straight porn on their phone, no matter how many times they say they are straight.
 

+1

[Tomtravel]

This gay-straight debate is a bit useless. For some people fucking is not a big deal, it feels good, sometimes you can get money for that. Some people can avoid hunger doing so, hunger is a horrible feeling, people do everything to avoid that.
I can eat with chopsticks, for fun or to be in line with the restaurant culture, no big deal, I dont care. But you would not say, I am a bit Asian or I am not 100% European. Its pointless. I just eat with chopsticks. Culturally I have nothing to do with Asia. 

Its the question, whom you wanna fuck in your night dreams - that would answer, if one likes more men or woman or both.

[floridarob]

9 hours ago, Tomtravel said:

This gay-straight debate is a bit useless.

I read this 3 times, I don't understand anything you are trying to say....maybe it's me, I'm just waking up 🙄