EmmetK Posted January 26 Author Posted January 26 15 hours ago, stevenkesslar said: You completely missed the point. Wrong. You completely missed the point. 50,000 drug deaths were the high during the Trump administration. And you call that a failure? 100,000+ during each year of Dementia Joe's term. What do you call that? lol. Dementia Joe is a catastrophe. Fortunately, as this Reuters poll shows, as do almost all of the others, Dementia Joe will be out of office in a few months: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/americans-dismayed-by-biden-trump-2024-rematch-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2024-01-25/ Quote
Goober Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, EmmetK said: Wrong. You completely missed the point. 50,000 drug deaths were the high during the Trump administration. And you call that a failure? 100,000+ during each year of Dementia Joe's term. What do you call that? lol. Dementia Joe is a catastrophe. Fortunately, as this Reuters poll shows, as do almost all of the others, Dementia Joe will be out of office in a few months: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/americans-dismayed-by-biden-trump-2024-rematch-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2024-01-25/ trump has made it clear that he doesn't care about border security, so all your posts on this issue ring hollow. Why not move on? Quote
EmmetK Posted January 26 Author Posted January 26 So when democratic Senator Fetterman says that the border is NOT secure, and Biden's open borders are destroying the American dream, he must be lying? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fetterman-says-american-dream-is-threatened-by-300000-illegal-immigrants-swarming-southern-border/ar-BB1gZRvf Quote
EmmetK Posted January 26 Author Posted January 26 13 minutes ago, Goober said: trump has made it clear that he doesn't care about border security, so all your posts on this issue ring hollow. Why not move on? https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111818563406841830 Latbear4blk 1 Quote
Goober Posted January 26 Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, EmmetK said: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111818563406841830 LOL...truthsocial, #1 superspreader of ignorance for the ignorant Latbear4blk, Marc in Calif, Stable Genius and 1 other 1 2 1 Quote
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EmmetK Posted January 26 Author Posted January 26 It keeps getting worse for the man who confused his sister with his wife and can't put two coherent sentences together: https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein And the only two national polls in January have it Trump +9 and Trump +11 Quote
Bingo T Dog Posted January 26 Posted January 26 7 minutes ago, EmmetK said: It keeps getting worse for the man who confused his sister with his wife and can't put two coherent sentences together: https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein And the only two national polls in January have it Trump +9 and Trump +11 You should go pitch a tent on the mall in DC so you can get a good seat for the inauguration. Hurry!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sure Elise Steflunkie will send food out to you. Stable Genius, Latbear4blk and Marc in Calif 3 Quote
Stable Genius Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Emit K, you better start buying a lot of those stupid red hats from Traitor trump. $83 million verdict in E. Jean Carroll defamation suit! JKane, Marc in Calif and Bingo T Dog 1 2 Quote
Goober Posted January 26 Posted January 26 30 minutes ago, Stable Genius said: Emit K, you better start buying a lot of those stupid red hats from Traitor trump. $83 million verdict in E. Jean Carroll defamation suit! I think most MAGAts buy their genuine made in China MAGA hats from Temu for $2.68. Bingo T Dog and floridarob 1 1 Quote
Goober Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/24/2024 at 2:11 AM, forky123 said: Trump 2024 summed up in 6 words. George Carlin couldn't even predict Stinky's bigly words or how many stupid people would fall for them. Is Stinky talking about the Sock Market or the Stock Rocket??? Stable Genius and Bingo T Dog 1 1 Quote
Olddaddy Posted January 27 Posted January 27 But cannot explain to me about these rumours as I'm not American The healthcare system I think it's State run not Federal government in America ? So anyway say I live in Alabama,and I have no job do I get free health care if I turn up at a hospital with kidney stones or I have to pay? The other rumour , if you can't find a job does your social security run out after 6 months? What happens then ? I know America has better retirement at age 62 ,compare that to UK or Australia where we must wait until 67 to access the government pension ! Mavica 1 Quote
Members unicorn Posted January 27 Members Posted January 27 5 hours ago, Olddaddy said: But cannot explain to me about these rumours as I'm not American The healthcare system I think it's State run not Federal government in America ? So anyway say I live in Alabama,and I have no job do I get free health care if I turn up at a hospital with kidney stones or I have to pay? The other rumour , if you can't find a job does your social security run out after 6 months? What happens then ? I know America has better retirement at age 62 ,compare that to UK or Australia where we must wait until 67 to access the government pension ! The free medical care system in the US, called Medicaid (or, in California, Medi-Cal) is available to those who are genuinely poor, and legally in this country (other than tourists, of course). Eligibility depends on how poor you are, not on whether or not you have a job. I retired early, so have no job, but I do not qualify due to my wealth and pension income. One does have to apply for Medicaid, but there are plenty of resources for those indigent people who are too dysfunctional to apply. For example, there are social workers who scour homeless encampments to make sure all of those people are enrolled (and many outpatient clinics serving the poor also have such social workers). Worst case scenario--someone goes into a hospital who never bothered to apply for his free Medicaid--the hospital's social worker will assist the patient in completing the forms (done online), and if eligible the hospital stay will be retroactively covered. Medicaid pays close to nothing to most physicians and hospitals, but pays rather generously to public hospitals and outpatient clinics who serve the poor. However, if the patient cannot be safely transported to a public hospital, the private hospital must provide any needed care and absorb the cost (cannot bill the patient). For example, women in labor or someone with appendicitis cannot be transferred. Any hospital violating this law gets severely fined (this might happen, for example, if the ER sends a woman home, telling her she's in false labor, but it turns out she's really in labor). The only illegal aliens who are entitled to Medicaid are pregnant women (since, presumably, when she gives birth her child will be an American citizen, and it's not wise policy to allow pregnancy complications just to "punish" the pregnant woman). Medicaid is available to asylees or refugees (or those whose cases have been presented and have not yet been adjudicated), but these people also get work permits, so they usually get insurance through work. Also, there are quite a few "free clinics," supported by both government grants and charitable donations, which provide outpatient care to illegal aliens (or tourists who didn't buy health insurance), hopefully to treat diabetes, hypertension, and so on, with the goal of reducing the need to hospitalize such people (private hospitals often donate to these free clinics, and pharmaceutical companies might donate meds). I did work at one of these clinics one evening a week, without compensation. The U.S. has full employment, so anyone who's able to work can find a job. In the case in which people are truly unable to work, they can go to a disability lawyer and present their cases to a judge who can declare them disabled. When such a judge declares someone disabled, the disabled's paid a generous monthly stipend from the Social Security Administration (the disability lawyer gets paid from a portion of these proceeds), and he's also entitled to Medicare, which, unlike Medicaid, pays a reasonable amount to any physician and hospital. Unlike Medicaid, the vast majority of physicians and hospitals accept Medicare. While, in theory, judges should only declare someone disabled if they're truly unable to do any work, in practice disability lawyers often work with lenient or easily duped judges, and many of those receiving social security disability aren't really that disabled, and might even work under the table in addition to receiving the social security disability benefits. (If discovered, those caught will have to pay back the money, and might go to prison) Those who get fired from work and are temporarily out of work get paid through Unemployment Insurance benefits, not social security. This will generally pay out up to about a year. This covers jobs which are legal--or at least with reported income. An escort who does not report his income (as required by law) will not be covered (though, if he's able to hide his income, he will qualify for Medicaid). Most successful escorts report at least some of their income, and buy their own insurance (perhaps subsidized), and are therefore eligible for benefits such as Medicare should they become disabled or reach retirement age. In the US, full retirement age is 67. One can collect social security retirement income starting at age 60, if one wishes, but this will doom one to a very low monthly income for life, as one cannot go back on the decision to collect early. Also, if one waits until at least FRA to collect, one's spouse can collect upon one's death. For example, if I start getting SS before I turn 67, my husband won't collect, but if I wait he will (and he's a lot younger than I am). My best friend had a domestic partner who was a truck driver and big boozer who decided to start collecting SS at the age of 60. At such an early age, the benefit was tiny (about $1200 a month), but enough to pay for the groceries. That domestic partner ended up dying before his 67th birthday (of alcohol-related issues), so collecting early was a good decision for him. Medicare also covers anyone 65 or over, working or not. Of note, the Social Security Act was passed under FD Roosevelt under the New Deal. Republicans opposed it. Olddaddy and lookin 1 1 Quote
Members unicorn Posted January 27 Members Posted January 27 Oh, I forgot to add that Medicaid is administered by states, but mainly funded through federal tax dollars. Medicare is all federal. Pete1111, lookin and Olddaddy 2 1 Quote
Olddaddy Posted January 27 Posted January 27 So I know people ( in Australia) who have been unemployed for many years ( laziness)they still get unemployment benefits each fortnight,some are just unemployable So what happens in the USA in that case ? Max 6 months like the rumour is? Quote
reader Posted January 27 Posted January 27 7 hours ago, Olddaddy said: The other rumour , if you can't find a job does your social security run out after 6 months? What happens then ? You get another job. The unemployment rate is 3.7%. Quote
Goober Posted January 27 Posted January 27 7 hours ago, Olddaddy said: But cannot explain to me about these rumours as I'm not American The healthcare system I think it's State run not Federal government in America ? So anyway say I live in Alabama,and I have no job do I get free health care if I turn up at a hospital with kidney stones or I have to pay? The other rumour , if you can't find a job does your social security run out after 6 months? What happens then ? I know America has better retirement at age 62 ,compare that to UK or Australia where we must wait until 67 to access the government pension ! All your questions can be answered by a simple Google search. Maybe you should stick to YouTube as your information source. Marc in Calif 1 Quote
Olddaddy Posted January 27 Posted January 27 42 minutes ago, Goober said: All your questions can be answered by a simple Google search. Maybe you should stick to YouTube as your information source. Ok then we can stop replying to this thread Booger 😳 ,thanks for telling everyone we must stop and you joined this forum 6 days ago !!!🙄 Is there anything else you want ? Perhaps close the thread? Quote
Members unicorn Posted January 27 Members Posted January 27 6 hours ago, Olddaddy said: So I know people ( in Australia) who have been unemployed for many years ( laziness)they still get unemployment benefits each fortnight,some are just unemployable So what happens in the USA in that case ? Max 6 months like the rumour is? Your first sentence is a nonsensical oxymoron. Either they can't work because they're lazy OR because they're unemployable. It doesn't look as if you bothered to read the explanation I wrote. As I've told you twice before, Unemployment benefits generally last 1 year, not 6 months (maybe this string should be titled "Dementia Old Daddy"?). And, as was just explained to you, if a judge determines someone is unemployable, he will receive a fairly generous income. If the unemployed person simply choses not to work (laziness), he generally will not be paid. If there are children, he may receive Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (temporarily, as the name implies), but the recipients must look for work. I would certainly not want to encourage continued payments for lazy people who simply choose not to work. One year is certainly ample time to find a job. Marc in Calif 1 Quote
Olddaddy Posted January 27 Posted January 27 1 hour ago, unicorn said: Your first sentence is a nonsensical oxymoron. Either they can't work because they're lazy OR because they're unemployable. It doesn't look as if you bothered to read the explanation I wrote. As I've told you twice before, Unemployment benefits generally last 1 year, not 6 months (maybe this string should be titled "Dementia Old Daddy"?). And, as was just explained to you, if a judge determines someone is unemployable, he will receive a fairly generous income. If the unemployed person simply choses not to work (laziness), he generally will not be paid. If there are children, he may receive Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (temporarily, as the name implies), but the recipients must look for work. I would certainly not want to encourage continued payments for lazy people who simply choose not to work. One year is certainly ample time to find a job. Ok let's leave it at that 👌 Marc in Calif 1 Quote
Goober Posted January 27 Posted January 27 1 hour ago, unicorn said: Your first sentence is a nonsensical oxymoron. Either they can't work because they're lazy OR because they're unemployable. It doesn't look as if you bothered to read the explanation I wrote. As I've told you twice before, Unemployment benefits generally last 1 year, not 6 months (maybe this string should be titled "Dementia Old Daddy"?). And, as was just explained to you, if a judge determines someone is unemployable, he will receive a fairly generous income. If the unemployed person simply choses not to work (laziness), he generally will not be paid. If there are children, he may receive Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (temporarily, as the name implies), but the recipients must look for work. I would certainly not want to encourage continued payments for lazy people who simply choose not to work. One year is certainly ample time to find a job. You deserve an A+ for effort (and patience) Marc in Calif and unicorn 1 1 Quote
Members JKane Posted January 28 Members Posted January 28 Pete1111, unicorn and Marc in Calif 2 1 Quote
Members RockHardNYC Posted January 28 Members Posted January 28 On 1/22/2024 at 5:17 AM, TotallyOz said: Is it wrong as a board owner to just fucking ban anyone who supports Trump as they often bring down the intelligence level of the board? Not only is it NOT WRONG, I would highly recommend it, until further notice. These are NOT normal times, and nobody should pretend otherwise. Mainstream media is FAILING us. In normal times, I invited opposing, intelligent, respectful, political debate. For decades, I was a loyal contributor to PBS's The News Hour, a committed watcher of Jim Lehrer, Gwen Iffil, Mark Shields, and others. The News Hour was one of the few news sources on TV who offered opposing debate in a civil, respectable manner. Today, in a Trump/maga world, one has to be VERY CAREFUL when trying to find reliable news sources, otherwise known as the truth. Trump and his minions are SERIAL LIARS. They compile lie upon lie, continually feeding the Fascist cult movement that chooses to live in their ignorant and racist bubble. The RACISTS have complete support from the Fox (and others) eco chamber. It's never been more us-versus-them, with maga (and Putin) begging for another civil war. I made the decision last year to end any and all association with Trump supporters, especially anything to do with money. That means, most of my Midwest family are now gone, properly excommunicated from my life. You can't talk or reason with cult members. Either they drink the poison that ultimately ends their lives, or they face a long and scary process of deprogramming. Trump is facing 91 criminal indictments. There was a time when only one would kill a campaign for president. These are not normal times. The magas in Congress DO NOT WANT a border deal, because they NEED the issue to run on, and they'd rather hurt more human lives because of perceived political "wins." How do you define evil? In a court of law, to nine jurors who went through voir dire with the highly respected Judge Lewis Kaplan, Alina Habba actually argued that E. Jean Carroll got what she wanted from her association (the rape) with Donald Trump. She acquired fame. How evil does a U.S. lawyer need to be to make such an argument in a U.S. court of law? The jury voted that degree of evil is worth about 83 million. Maga is a dangerous CANCER. If we are not careful, if we are not diligent, we risk losing EVERYTHING to Fascism, especially the rule of law. Trump called Robbie Kaplan a CUNT in code during a deposition. For more on the future ACN case that Robbie Kaplan is pursuing against Trump, here is a fascinating interview with Robbie by former Republican Tim Miller: For most legal discussion of Trump's cases, I now rely on Legal AF. Lawyers Ben Meiselas, Michael Popok, and Karen Friedman Agnifilo (former #2 to Cy Vance in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office) know how to explain complex legal matters to non-lawyers: I'm a big John Favreau, Tommy Vietor, and Dan Pfeiffer fan, so I try never to miss a Pod Save America episode. Here is their most recent discussion with Liz Cheney: America is worth saving. Let's put an end to the Trump cult. It's democracy or Fascism. I vote democracy: Joe Biden 2024! Tell maga to go fuck themselves. TotallyOz, Pete1111, Marc in Calif and 1 other 3 1 Quote
EmmetK Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 These are NOT normal times. We have an incumbent President with clear cognitive problems that will only get worse over time. He is unable to put two coherent sentences together without a teleprompter. He has opened up the southern border to allow an invasion of millions of unvetted migrants who we know nothing about. Many are drug dealers, many are sex traffickers, many are criminals, etc. These are NOT normal times. America needs Donald Trump more than ever! Quote