Popular Post khaolakguy Posted December 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 28, 2023 Short Bangkok Report Visited Screwboy last night. Around 25 mostly twink physique straightish boys. Quite a lot of eye contact and smiles with 45 minute show at 2200, with later shows at 2330 and 0100. Drinks 400 Baht. Tip given to Boy with nice smile and great six pack but no further engagement. BF not interested and mamasan(known from way back) was not encouraging, (“from Vietnam”). Too much less than basic quality drag content in the show, solo singers lip-syncing in sequins etc, each number greeted by cursory applause. Three elements in the show, say one third of the content, was male performers with “big cocks”(marginal in some cases) but it was the same five performers in each of the five minute segments, a couple of whom were past their prime and one of whom was not available for customers to off. Might go back, all pleasant enough, but on balance probably won’t return on this trip, although good to visit for nostalgia’s sake as it was the original Patpong Soi two gay bar, and was convenient to drop in after a meal at Le Bouchon, now moved to Sathorn area but still worth a visit. More to come. llz, TotallyOz, reader and 6 others 7 2 Quote
Popular Post khaolakguy Posted December 29, 2023 Author Popular Post Posted December 29, 2023 Prime Massage We had two excellent massages here, as normal. Simple rooms, well managed and staff well trained. I think it was two buildings when I was last there, but despite expanding to a third we had to book(and pay) 24 hours in advance and in person. Two hour Thai massage was 600 and one hour thai plus one hour oil was 800. Went to book again another day shortly after opening time. Found a queue already outside to make bookings for subsequent visits! Went back later when there wasn’t a queue to find that they are now booked out until 1stJanuary. Lots of cute young Chinese(from Taiwan?) waiting outside. BF now has fantasies of a new career as masseur at Prime but I have pointed out that he would never be able to keep his hands where they are supposed to be. Prime is a good demonstration of a well run business, holding their very reasonable prices and retaining the original quality of their product. Complete contrast to a young man sitting outside as the front man at one of the extra benefits places in the same soi. He seemed hopelessly confused by the idea of splitting a two hour session between thai and oil massages, even though we pointed out that it was one of the suggestions on their display boards. After several attempts we walked away. Perhaps the manager was at lunch. When those shops have so much competition for passing trade, it seems bizarre to have a front man who is unable to communicate in English. Wabi-Sabi Spa Having read good things on the Blowing Winds website, and in search of a good massage principally and not too bothered about extras we tried to book this spa. The number on their website answered but said that they “don’t do administration” but referred us to another number or their Line account. The landline went straight to ansafone and no one responded to the Line contacts. Oh well. Might as well go to Arena. There is always some one available there. And their massages are usually good. To be continued! TotallyOz, fedssocr, Boy69 and 5 others 7 1 Quote
vinapu Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 2 hours ago, khaolakguy said: Might as well go to Arena. There is always some one available there. And their massages are usually good. you got that right ! macaroni21 1 Quote
Popular Post khaolakguy Posted December 30, 2023 Author Popular Post Posted December 30, 2023 Arena Still no escalators working in the complex where Arena is sited, and only the rear lift working to take you to the third floor. We arrived shortly after opening time. Pleased to note that the old brown sofas that must have been there for twenty years had finally been replaced by new purple seating. We both chose two hour oil massages. 990 Baht each(paid afterwards but no change given as previously noted). There were a choice of four masseurs. Two were overweight and over age(40s?) two were of interest. I let my bf choose first a well built quite good looking man around 30 years old, and I took the younger guy, slim, broad shoulders. Neither quite delivered as planned. Bf’s guy gave a good massage although not using all the historic arena sensual techniques. After half an hour the masseur moved enthusiastically to blow job and was then asking to be fucked. Bf obliged then the massage resumed before masseur was back to a blow job and asking to be fucked again, and bf obliged again. Afterwards he felt that perhaps he should have been the recipient of the tip for his good service! My masseur, as we were just undressing started saying “I give good massage you give good tip”. This wasn’t encouraging and was repeated several times subsequently. The signs got no better when he started trying to put his finger in my hole after only ten minutes of the massage. Actually his massage skills themselves were 4/10 and his after massage skills turned out to be similar. The part of the experience to which he gave most effort was in washing me afterwards in the shower(in the room). Perhaps the motivation came from being close to tip time! This was probably the worst Arena massage I have had. Both masseurs received 2,000 Baht(minimum for 2 hours is 1,500). We also had to fill in the satisfaction questionnaire with the masseurs standing beside us, making it awkward! I just marked mine not as “Very Good” but just as “Good” where those alternatives applied. Hopefully that sent some signal that I wasn’t completely happy. By the time we left more masseurs had arrived but none inspired us to make a rapid return visit. 10tazione, TotallyOz, BL8gPt and 3 others 5 1 Quote
vinapu Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 we used to say on the forum ' Arena never disappoints" but it looks that this time they did. At least sofas are new ! Perhaps with tips you guys were bit too generous, one at minimum level would suffice. revengeboo and floridarob 1 1 Quote
Department_Of_Agriculture Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/28/2023 at 4:34 PM, khaolakguy said: Visited Screwboy last night. ...Might go back, all pleasant enough, but on balance probably won’t return on this trip, although good to visit for nostalgia’s sake as it was the original Patpong Soi two gay bar, ... That's not correct. There have been gay bars on Patpong 2 since the 80s. Earlier bars that come to mind include Tiffany, Narcissus and The Mask. Screw Boy only opened in the mid-90s. On 12/29/2023 at 9:11 AM, khaolakguy said: Lots of cute young Chinese(from Taiwan?) waiting outside. 🤢🤢🤢🤢 🤢🤮🤮 The last thing that I want to hear is that the Chinese are returning in numbers now. Literally the last thing. One of the best things about visiting Thailand in 2022 was the almost complete absence of the Chinese. On those few occasions when one had the misfortune of encountering them, it was almost always unpleasant, such as the shitty toilet episode described on another thread. The Chinese tour groups are now even back on Walking Street apparently and it will only get worse. Bangkok, and Thailand, are a lot more fun without them. One can only hope that Chinese "influencers" calling Thailand unsafe and that silly Chinese film "No More Bets" will have the reported effect of deterring them from visiting Thailand. 6 hours ago, khaolakguy said: Arena ...Pleased to note that the old brown sofas that must have been there for twenty years had finally been replaced by new purple seating. The end of an era. They were part of the original decor. CallMeLee, Marc in Calif and Rent Boy 1 2 Quote
Popular Post Foolish Posted December 30, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Department_Of_Agriculture said: The last thing that I want to hear is that the Chinese are returning in numbers now. Literally the last thing. Since the poster was talking about Taiwanese Chinese but you launched into a racist drivel about chinese in general, i can safely assume that you are a racist prick. In this case, if you don't want to see Chinese, especially in SEA with its huge chinese population, then go stay in a cave in Antarctica with penguins for company. vinapu, splinter1949, ichigo and 4 others 4 1 2 Quote
thaiophilus Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Foolish said: go stay in a cave in Antarctica with penguins for company. But can you guarantee they won't be Chinese penguins? 🐧🐧🐧 Quote
vinapu Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 10 hours ago, vinapu said: we used to say on the forum ' Arena never disappoints" but it looks that this time they did. At least sofas are new ! good news came from my friend who visited them yesterday and seemed to be happy with experience. It looks khaolakguy and his boyfriend had bit of bad luck. khaolakguy 1 Quote
vinapu Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Department_Of_Agriculture said: The last thing that I want to hear is that the Chinese are returning in numbers now. Literally the last thing. One of the best things about visiting Thailand in 2022 was the almost complete absence of the Chinese. On those few occasions when one had the misfortune of encountering them, it was almost always unpleasant, such as the shitty toilet episode described on another thread. The Chinese tour groups are now even back on Walking Street apparently and it will only get worse. Bangkok, and Thailand, are a lot more fun without them. One can only hope that Chinese "influencers" calling Thailand unsafe and that silly Chinese film "No More Bets" will have the reported effect of deterring them from visiting Thailand. that is exaggeration although I can see where your sentiment may came from. Visit to Bang Melea temple near Angkor I recall as one of my worst experience in travelling due to two busloads of Chinese who filled place, expected to be serene specially in the morning, with screams , tried to move some stones and behaved like Huns attacking Rome indeed. But to their credit at least they rose early. Chinese girls sometimes in bars , BBB specially comes to mind behave equally noisy scaring a lot of patrons in process. But there's beneficial reverse to all that. Travelling Chinese are crowding our bars ( on one on my visit in Tawan in July I was under impression it was only two us farangs in crowded bar) , buing drinks, tipping and offing boys and hanging all those stupid 1000 baht garlands on them. Some may be stingy but plenty are not as I was told they like to show off. I witnessed twice boys on the stage were tipped 1000 baht just for standing there and in both cases those tippers were Chinese looking girls . In short they are helping to keep afloat businesses we are frequenting too so hold your nose. For fun I checked Grindr today and it seems there are tons of them ready to party today and go home on Tuesday. So many listings that it seems they crowded out local who I presume don't need to advertise for a moment boys because they are harvesting all those Chinese clients. t0oL1 and BL8gPt 2 Quote
jason1975 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Thank you for your trip report @khaolakguy khaolakguy 1 Quote
khaolakguy Posted December 31, 2023 Author Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, vinapu said: good news came from my friend who visited them yesterday and seemed to be happy with experience. It looks khaolakguy and his boyfriend had bit of bad luck. Happy to hear this. We've been enjoying guys from Arena for 25 years, both in house and as outcalls for repeats, so we won't get put off by our last experience. I do though see a trend for the standard of guys working there to have slipped a bit. There is just so much more competition for good and good looking masseurs than there used to be, and perhaps more working for themselves on line. Quote
Popular Post khaolakguy Posted December 31, 2023 Author Popular Post Posted December 31, 2023 Re original gay bars in Patpong Two. I should have referred to Screwboys as the last remaining of the original gay bars on that street. It was nostalgic to visit anyway. Freshboys Had a drink there. More spacious than Screw Boys. 25 to 30 guys available on stage, a lot on stage at one time. Some 20 customers there too. Drinks 450 Baht. Brief show at 2215 with three sexy shows, big cock etc, and only one drag show with one performer(and no sign of any others waiting in the wings). Similar twinky types to Screwboys and bf thought that 30% of them were Vietnamese. Good playful atmosphere and if you are looking for gay boys this may be a good place to visit. One thing that we noticed was how light skinned the guys were in the bar(and in hindsight also in Screwboys). Really only one darker skinned guy there. It used to be that brown skinned guys were the majority, and guys from Isarn were much in demand. Perhaps there is a commercial motivation to satisfy Asian customer preferences for lighter skins, which is compounded by shortage of available local guys. Give me an Isarn guy anytime! Hotmale Also visited Hotmale, seemed to be around twenty guys, comfortable in their own skins and to be on stage, more guys on the hunky side than Freshboys or Screwboy. It’s a good layout and well lit/staged. Although we were shown to our ringside seats, we were never asked for our drinks orders, which was fine as we weren’t in a rush to drink more. Whole bar was focussed on an Asian table who were supplying drinks and 200 Baht to all the dancers and the waiters and then the doormen. And then anyone wearing Hotmale branded shirts. There may have been some swapping of clothes going on outside the door to allow others to benefit! After 15 minutes we left satisfied to have seen what was on offer and had a(much cheaper) drink at Dragon beer bar down stairs. 10tazione, splinter1949, vinapu and 2 others 5 Quote
vinapu Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, khaolakguy said: Although we were shown to our ringside seats, we were never asked for our drinks orders, which was fine as we weren’t in a rush to drink more. Whole bar was focussed on an Asian table who were supplying drinks and 200 Baht to all the dancers and the waiters and then the doormen. And then anyone wearing Hotmale branded shirts. There may have been some swapping of clothes going on outside the door to allow others to benefit! you so funny but I wouldn't be surprised if you were right Quote