A video to remind us to be cautious.

[scott456]

4 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

What a sad and boring little traveler you are!

What a sad and boring little person you are!

[floridarob]

Just an update.... was out walking along Ipanema beach tonight, didn't get mugged/robbed. Was 11pm, but I have my Gremlins midnight rule, was back in my room with my future ex-bf by that time.

 

[buttercawan]

Todays sun is pretty unbearable. Only got better after 4 pm. 

[PeterRS]

On 12/7/2023 at 6:53 AM, Latbear4blk said:

In Contrast, Bogotá, Medellín, Salvador, Mexico DF, Rio, where I have never suffered from any crime, have all been visits no longer than 2 weeks.

Obviously works for some. I was in Rio for just two days and was mugged in the middle of day. It was a Sunday with few people around!

[reader]

On my sole visit to Mexico City, I got totally lost one Sunday afternoon while looking for a popular gay destination.  Ended up walking along deserted streets for 45 minutes until I located a Metro station. Figured if I survived that I could relax a bit. That was in 2004. Since then most of of my travels have been limited to SE Asian. There's no pace I feel safer than the streets--while sidewalks--of Bangkok.

[floridarob]

I'm in Rio, a programa costs $30-40 usd (1000-1400thb)....I met this one guy that I REALLY like, no off fees, no overpriced drinks...once you make the connection in the sauna and you have his number, no mamasan no drama of friends motobike keys, sick family, dead animals on the farm, no "up to you"....and did I  mention frigging incredible sex 😆

[scott456]

14 hours ago, floridarob said:

Just an update.... was out walking along Ipanema beach tonight, didn't get mugged/robbed. Was 11pm, but I have my Gremlins midnight rule, was back in my room with my future ex-bf by that time.

 

I wouldn't dare to do this alone.  My life is more precious than this.  But sounds like you were not walking alone.

[scott456]

2 hours ago, floridarob said:

I'm in Rio, a programa costs $30-40 usd (1000-1400thb)....I met this one guy that I REALLY like, no off fees, no overpriced drinks...once you make the connection in the sauna and you have his number, no mamasan no drama of friends motobike keys, sick family, dead animals on the farm, no "up to you"....and did I  mention frigging incredible sex 😆

I agree.  I am into muscle men which  usually cost much more in Thailand than in Brazil.

[BlkSuperman]

3 hours ago, floridarob said:

I'm in Rio, a programa costs $30-40 usd (1000-1400thb)....I met this one guy that I REALLY like, no off fees, no overpriced drinks...once you make the connection in the sauna and you have his number, no mamasan no drama of friends motobike keys, sick family, dead animals on the farm, no "up to you"....and did I  mention frigging incredible sex 😆

$30-$40US ohhhhhhhhhhh you bitch! I think injust creamed my pants. 

I just realized we will be there in 2 weeks. $30 for premium dick? Oh boy! This is going to be A FUCKING (pun intended) TRIP!

[floridarob]

48 minutes ago, BlkSuperman said:

I just realized we will be there in 2 weeks. $30 for premium dick? Oh boy!

Stick to your guns $40usd- 200 reis is the going outcall rate too, don't go throwing money, they'll do more usually just for the asking. Filming the way you want, they may ask for more...but don't go falling in love, because tomorrow is another day, lol

[asdsrfr]

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

I'm in Rio, a programa costs $30-40 usd (1000-1400thb)....I met this one guy that I REALLY like, no off fees, no overpriced drinks...once you make the connection in the sauna and you have his number, no mamasan no drama of friends motobike keys, sick family, dead animals on the farm, no "up to you"....and did I  mention frigging incredible sex 😆

I think it’s somewhat telling that in Brazil the guys will refer to you as their client or customer but in Thailand they are quick to call you their “boyfriend “

[scott456]

26 minutes ago, asdsrfr said:

I think it’s somewhat telling that in Brazil the guys will refer to you as their client or customer but in Thailand they are quick to call you their “boyfriend “

They can call me whatever they want.  I call them "prostitutes", in Brazil or Thailand. You do realize they are prostitutes and you are a customer, don't you?

[BlkSuperman]

14 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Stick to your guns $40usd- 200 reis is the going outcall rate too, don't go throwing money, they'll do more usually just for the asking. Filming the way you want, they may ask for more...but don't go falling in love, because tomorrow is another day, lol

200R for an OUT-CALL???? HOLYYYYYYYYYYY-SHIT! The price has decreased. 

Sounds like my hole will get a lot of action in a couple of weeks. 

Don't worry, my friend i "stick to my guns" as you said.

[floridarob]

14 minutes ago, BlkSuperman said:

The price has decreased. 

It's been this for awhile...some will ask for more, few will stick to their guns. I find the humble guys to be the best sex, divas are .....divas, lol

[TotallyOz]

On 12/7/2023 at 5:45 AM, 12is12 said:

TotallyOz, I m really curious: 

How can one feel safe after being robbed at gun point 3 times? 

I mean, at the very least u must feel that it can happen again. That's the definition of NOT feeling safe; isnt it?

Furthermore, who's to say that on the 4th time the gun won't go on?

I've been to brazil 3 times and to clmbia - 4. I like them, not only for the sex. 

M quite sure that if I was gun robbed once - I wldnt return )-:

Can't answer your question other than I think the economy was really bad and two of the robberies happened near ATMs and I had been warned to be careful.

The only time I ever felt unsafe was with @floridarob when he had me walking the streets late one night and I thought "Oz, you are insane."  Rob speaks their language and can easily communicate and blends in well. But, I stand out like a sore thumb. Last time I ever did that. I am more of a taxi guy when I am there. I do feel safe walking down Avenue Paulista and shopping or around my hotels. But, late at night, no.

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, TotallyOz said:

"Oz, you are insane."

you were, you seem to have mellowed....

[asdsrfr]

10 hours ago, scott456 said:

They can call me whatever they want.  I call them "prostitutes", in Brazil or Thailand. You do realize they are prostitutes and you are a customer, don't you?

Of course but I find that in Thailand they try to move the needle toward boyfriend sooner to see if you bite when the buffalo dies or someone is in the hospital or...

[bucknaway]

I just saw a news article today on the violence and crime plaguing Rio de Janeiro. They make it sound like things are starting to boil over out there. And with my friends messaging me complaining about all the crime telling me that it's different now than before. Makes me think maybe it is getting worse.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/brazils-idyllic-copacabana-rocked-crime-013920036.html

[Marc in Calif]

41 minutes ago, bucknaway said:

I just saw a news article today on the violence and crime plaguing Rio de Janeiro. They make it sound like things are starting to boil over out there.

And then there are those who will say, "Oh, I've never experienced any crime there. I know the city and its culture too well." 🙄

[Travelingguy]

Plus ça change…
 

I remember, as a kid, reading about armed gangs, robbing entire apartment buildings in Rio . This was in the pre-cell phone times. They would cut the power and the telephone communications to the building. They would have armed people on the first floor /garage level. Then they would go through the building door-to-door robbing everybody.

 it was far away the most outrageous thing I ever remember hearing. And I grew up in a violent neighborhood in the United States.

Anyway, Rio has been extremely dangerous for my entire lifetime.  I’m guessing this waxes and wanes somewhat.  But with extremely high levels of insecurity, it is easier to understand why people would support fascist politicians with easy answers.

[Xclay]

2 hours ago, bucknaway said:

https://news.yahoo.com/brazils-idyllic-copacabana-rocked-crime-013920036.html

Thanks for sharing this AFP wire story. It makes quite a few references to increased police patrols in the Copacabana area. And I can vouch for that.

This Saturday afternoon I took a long walk along Avenida Atlântica on the hotel side and on the beach side. Police were at nearly every intersection, in the middle of long blocks, and parked on the esplanade. I'm used to seeing police here, but this was an all-time record. They were patrolling up and down the parallel avenues too.

For the record, most wore tight brown uniforms. You might not have picked all of them at 117,  but generally not too bad. Many of the muscular military policemen wore tight white t-shirts stating Policia Militar along with shorts seriously stretched by their quads. 

Sorry. I got distracted from the serious subject of police deterring crime in Copacabana. To recap: Yes, many are indeed here.

[Mavica]

The linked article doesn't provide many facts to back up the safety risk assertions.  Local residents typically know where the safe / unsafe areas are, though.  Not always, but usually.  I was in Rio, maybe 15 years ago, when tourists waiting for a 'Bondinho de Santa Teresa' were at times, being beaten-up/robbed.  I was sitting in the sand under an umbrella at Praia Ipanema not long after or maybe it was before the 'Bondinho' muggings period when a gang of young people from one of the favelas arrived and started hitting many people with clubs/bats, stealing personal belongings before running-off.  And for decades, I'm recalling, hotel staff's in Cop.a have been warning guests leaving to visit parts of the city to leave valuables, cameras, bags, etc., behind because they thought there were dangers.  Is the situation worse today than in years past, is this just another cycle of criminal activity that comes and goes?  None of us is going to know that.

[floridarob]

6 hours ago, Mavica said:

I was sitting in the sand under an umbrella at Praia Ipanema

beaches and gyms, two things I avoid, too dangerous 😆

[floridarob]

10 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

And then there are those who will say, "Oh, I've never experienced any crime there. I know the city and its culture too well." 🙄

I have, and has all been self inflicted.... NO Gremlins after midnight, is now my golden rule.

[BlkSuperman]

20 hours ago, Xclay said:

Thanks for sharing this AFP wire story. It makes quite a few references to increased police patrols in the Copacabana area. And I can vouch for that.

This Saturday afternoon I took a long walk along Avenida Atlântica on the hotel side and on the beach side. Police were at nearly every intersection, in the middle of long blocks, and parked on the esplanade. I'm used to seeing police here, but this was an all-time record. They were patrolling up and down the parallel avenues too.

I'm glad I didn't read these posts before my first trip to RIO because i probavoy wouldnt have gone after reading. 

@Xclay, like you when we were there last year and previous years for new years eve and carnaval there were police on every corner. They had patrol cars in medians with lights on and it was very peaceful.

The cops are definitely buffed and their uniforms fit like a glove. I'm following one on social media now. This guy was a ball of blubber in July, now he's all lean, muscular, ripped and posts pics daily to his social media account.

If anyone is there, speak to the cops. Some of them do play for money.  The one I'm talking to now has agreed to come to the apartment in a few weeks make love to my hole and choke me while we're in the missionary position. 

He posts pics daily and when i told him I would be traveling with friends and asked did be have a few police officer friends he could bring with him, his response was, "YES!"

When you're there, dress and look like a poor man, but fuk like a porn star.

Look at those arms. Wouldn't you want to be chocked by this sexy MF