macaroni21 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkPVl2XP9Ws (nothing gay here. all about girl sex). An embarrasingly poor documentary. It shifts back and forth between sex tourism with paedophilia with no clear distinction between the two. The tourists interviewed were also pretty bad at pushing back against the moralistic undertone of the interviewer's questions. It is, at an intellectual level, an underwhelming piece of journalism. Londoner, moistmango, floridarob and 1 other 4 Quote
reader Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, macaroni21 said: It is, at an intellectual level, an underwhelming piece of journalism. +1 Londoner 1 Quote
Londoner Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 It's hard to take seriously a TV doc in which the commentator cannot even pronounce "Pattaya". Pa-TTAI-ya? Patanawet 1 Quote
lelele Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 3 hours ago, macaroni21 said: It is, at an intellectual level, an underwhelming piece of journalism. this. Quote
Gaybutton Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 I clicked the link in the OP post. I tried to watch it, mainly to see how old it is, but I get a message saying "Video Unavailable. This video is private" t0oL1 1 Quote
macaroni21 Posted December 2, 2023 Author Posted December 2, 2023 Hmm, DW must have switched it to private a couple of hours after I posted it. The short text version can be seen here: https://www.dw.com/en/a-shady-side-of-paradise-sex-tourism-in-thailand/a-67057449, and I recognise the still pictures, which were taken from the video. However the text article on DW's website has no link to the video. Maybe they will un-private the video after the last broadcast slot on 4 December. Quote
reader Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 The Bangkok Post is reporting that video is now blocked in Thailand. The Post is also reporting that police are investigating an alleged 1 million baht bribe paid by a German man released from a sex-related charge involving his Pattaya bar. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2697609/police-probing-sex-charge-bribe-claim floridarob and t0oL1 2 Quote
reader Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 From Thai PBS World Pattaya police explain alleged bribery in child prostitution case Pattaya police issued a statement today in an attempt to clarify a German media report, claiming that a German tourist, who was arrested for buying sexual services from an underage girl in Pattaya bar in September last year, was released after allegedly paying a million baht bribe to police before leaving Thailand. In response to the accusation made in the DW documentary, Pattaya police said in its statement that that, on September 10th last year, police and local administration officials raided the Cobra beer bar in Bang Lamung district, after it was alleged that sexual services by underage girls were being offered to customers. The bar’s owner, a Thai woman identified as Ornthana Yothee, 42, and her British partner, were arrested and charged with providing the services of prostitutes. The police expanded their investigation and claim that a German customer used to buy sexual services from an underage employee of the bar. They arrested him on September 24th in a hotel in Bang Lamung district, Chon Buri. Two days later, the German suspect was taken to the Pattaya court, to have his detention extended for further questioning. The suspect then sought bail and the application was granted by the court on the condition that he must report to the court on November 14th, or his 500,000 baht surety would be confiscated. On November 7th, the German suspect flew out of Thailand. Pol Lt-Gen Somprasong Yentuam, commissioner of Region 2 Provincial Police Bureau, said he had ordered an investigation into the bribery allegation made in the documentary. He said that, since several law enforcement agencies were involved in the case, the police would try to uncover what went wrong and which agency was responsible. The statement from the police did not specifically address the one million baht which is alleged to have been paid, or whether the 500,000 baht “bail surety” was part of it. Quote
PeterRS Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 1:00 PM, Londoner said: It's hard to take seriously a TV doc in which the commentator cannot even pronounce "Pattaya". Pa-TTAI-ya? Surely the problem is that many of those who watched it will in fact have believed it, if only because it reinforces stereotypes they have been fed for decades. Once the cat is out of the bag, it's a massive job to get it back! Quote
macaroni21 Posted December 20, 2023 Author Posted December 20, 2023 I chanced upon the same DW.com video again*, now publicly available on Youtube. They have put it up under a different URL, with a different title too: Now it is "Sex tourists in Thailand". *Youtube's algorithm for me must be a simple one: SEX, SEX, SEX. 🤣 Note: nothing gay in this DW.com documentary; all about girl sex. As I mentioned earlier in my opening post, the video documentary shifts back and forth between sex tourism and paedophilia with no clear distinction between the two. The tourists interviewed were also pretty bad at pushing back against the moralistic undertone of the interviewer's questions. An underwhelming piece of journalism. vinapu, Boy69 and moistmango 1 2 Quote
jason1975 Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 Here's an old documentary. Produced by Singapore company. The bar is Jupiter at its first location at current Moonlight location. moistmango, vinapu and t0oL1 2 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 4 hours ago, macaroni21 said: As I mentioned earlier in my opening post, the video documentary shifts back and forth between sex tourism and paedophilia with no clear distinction between the two. The tourists interviewed were also pretty bad at pushing back against the moralistic undertone of the interviewer's questions. An underwhelming piece of journalism Trying to represent Thailand as pedophilia heaven is misleading and untrue, I guess pedophiles who are seeking for minors to fulfill their deviations will find it anywhere in the world and Pattaya isn't exception. Many Journalists come with prejudice and tend to manipulate the reality to their own false perception. it's not journalism but propaganda. vinapu, floridarob and reader 2 1 Quote
waal Posted January 21 Posted January 21 On 12/2/2023 at 10:24 AM, macaroni21 said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkPVl2XP9Ws (nothing gay here. all about girl sex). An embarrasingly poor documentary. It shifts back and forth between sex tourism with paedophilia with no clear distinction between the two. The tourists interviewed were also pretty bad at pushing back against the moralistic undertone of the interviewer's questions. It is, at an intellectual level, an underwhelming piece of journalism. DW is a broadcast of the German government and is most likely obliged to support the new 'feminist foreign policy ' of the current government. There are attempts to criminalize prostitution in Germany again (at least for clients). You should see this documentary within this frame. Boy69 and Marc in Calif 1 1 Quote
Patanawet Posted January 22 Posted January 22 On 12/2/2023 at 1:00 PM, Londoner said: It's hard to take seriously a TV doc in which the commentator cannot even pronounce "Pattaya". Pa-TTAI-ya? Could be worse ------ 'Patters' 😂😝 Londoner 1 Quote
