First Trip Report: Bangkok September 2023

[scott456]

I am afraid of height 😕 

[vinapu]

47 minutes ago, scott456 said:

I am afraid of height 😕 

You can see the view  from glassed over floor where elevators are and you will feel more secure than on top open air deck

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, omega said:

I would agree. It's a fantastic view of Bangkok. Defintely worth doing at least once

count me in. I go there every trip I'm in Bangkok, most trips even few times, specially if boys I'm with expresses interest in going there. 

Pays to be old, seniors pay 250 , at least on weekdays

[PeterRS]

On 10/9/2023 at 12:11 AM, vinapu said:

Pays to be old, seniors pay 250 , at least on weekdays

True! I got in at the seniors price but had to pay a great deal more for my partner! Drinks at Vertigo, the open air bar on top of the Banyan Tree Hotel on Sathorn, are not cheap but you get mostly the same view for considerably less than going to the top of Mahanakhon. No glass bottom though 🤣

[scott456]

On 10/8/2023 at 11:11 AM, vinapu said:

Pays to be old, seniors pay 250 , at least on weekdays

I'd be happy to pay more than senior price if I could stay below any senior age threshold.

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, PeterRS said:

True! I got in at the seniors price but had to pay a great deal more for my partner! Drinks at Vertigo, the open air bar on top of the Banyan Tree Hotel on Sathorn, are not cheap but you get mostly the same view for considerably less than going to the top of Mahanakhon. No glass bottom though 🤣

Glass floor is the whole point , at least for me . At Vertigo that have some kind of dress code I was told, True?

[scott456]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

Glass floor is the whole point , at least for me . At Vertigo that have some kind of dress code I was told, True?

sure, for women, perhap for you too, skirt wearers. 

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, scott456 said:

sure, for women, perhap for you too, skirt wearers. 

I'm pretty sure my question was addressed to Peter as he makes impression to be better schooled in goings in Banyan Tree Vertigo Bar. 

But thank you for your attempt to answer

[PeterRS]

8 hours ago, vinapu said:

At Vertigo that have some kind of dress code I was told, True?

Sorry I cannot remember despite having been there several times. Each time i was in dark jeans, a Polo shirt and sneakers. No probems. I suspect Hawaiian shirts and shorts may not be not permitted.

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, PeterRS said:

Sorry I cannot remember despite having been there several times. Each time i was in dark jeans, a Polo shirt and sneakers. No probems. I suspect Hawaiian shirts and shorts may not be not permitted.

thank you , this is what I suspected as I vaguely recall one of our members was not admitted due to dress, not sure it was shorts or sandals

[TMax]

9 hours ago, vinapu said:

At Vertigo that have some kind of dress code I was told, True?

I remember they did before and it was smart casual.

Found this.

"Both Vertigo and Moon Bar have a 'Smart Casual' dress code, requiring semi-formal attire: long trousers and closed shoes for gentlemen, no torn jeans, sleeveless tops, shorts or flip-flops for ladies and gents."

[vinapu]

I wonder how day 11 of OP went

[CallMeLee]

Hey! Just came back from a work trip but here's Days 11-12.

Post trip reflections to follow. 😁

Days 11-12

I woke up with Tee still sound asleep. I tried to carefully wiggle out and move his legs off me but he instinctively pulled me back that I could feel his gentle snoring and his robust morning wood. "Not yet", I told myself. I may be a horn dog but at the moment, my body is craving for caffeine more than anything else.

He's already awake when I stepped out of the shower. When I asked what he wants to eat for breakfast, he smiled and pointed at my phone which is good as I'm feeling lazy being out anyway. He ordered rice porridge while I opted for croissants, cold cuts and mangoes delivered. The croissant was surprisingly semi-fresh and Tee seemed to enjoy devouring two ham and cheese croissants I made.

We chatted a bit more with him telling his story on how he survived the pandemic including how he got back into shape. He also talked about his experiences being in the trade and some weird experiences and requests he receives from customers. This made me cringe thinking what story he will be telling his mates about me.

After a while, Tee stood up and motioned he's going to the shower. He removed the towel from his waist and draped it over his shoulder. "Come with me?" he asked. He's already hard down there. While I already showered and know this might be a ploy to extract more tip, this is one of those tricks I really don't mind falling into!

By mid afternoon, I decided to book Knott at S'sense. I was tempted to check if the Prince spa (also in Suan Plu) is open but given I'm at the tail end of my trip, I decided to play it safe. Knott instantly recognised me and was smiling as he lead me up that endless flight of stairs. I'm happy to report that the experience with him was consistent, if not, better than the last time. 

I chose to spend my last night in Tawan. The Uncle hastily led me in and have me seated inside (no more disclaimer from him about BDSM boy show!). I saw Tun busy chatting with a couple of customers. After a few minutes, I was approached by one bar boy, shook my hands and asked if he can sit with me.

BDSM show is not really my thing but I tried to enjoy and amuse myself with random stuff while watching. The clincher for me that night was one performance where they apparently intend to put a nipple clamp on one performer. However, rather than an actual nipple clamp, they improvised and used a large clothespin instead. The fact that both clampds are coloured pastel purple made me chuckle a bit.

While I'm enjoying  the  show, I'm struggling to feel any sort of spark with the guy seated next to me. I think it's because he jumped the gun and switched straight to and used the transactional tone quite quickly. I mean don't get me wrong. I'm not naive of what patrons and people who work in this kind of place are aiming for. But I guess, investing more time to create rapport really goes a long way. I politely declined, gave him his tip and he was back in rotation.

A few minutes later, I felt a gentle tap on my shoulder. It was Tun. "Hello my wife!" He whispered. I replied sarcastically pointing to the two guests he was chatting with and corrected him that those two are his wives. "No, they go home now" he said. We both had a laugh.

Once seated, Tun seems to be working fast to secure the deal. He's extra touchy feely, sneakily kissing my neck, his hands wandering everywhere under my shirt. He even grabbed my hand and directed it down his crotch area. I was a bit flustered with the last one as I'm not used to this kind of public display - even when in a boy bar in Thailand!

Moments later, Tun casually mentioned he's getting sleepy and suggest we "go home sleep together". I nodded, finished our drinks and made our way out. Just like last time, we did a quick pitstop at 7-11 before heading back to my apartment.

Tun quickly made himself at home which is one of the beauty of a repeat transaction. The expectations and dynamics are somehow established and there are less unknowns compared to bringing in a new guy. While there's the risk of monotony and overfamiliarity down the line, I chose to ignore that for now given that this is my last night and it will be months before I return to Tawan. I will worry about it by then.

Overall, my second time with Tun still exceeded my expectations. Given that I already had a session with Tee (morning) and Knott (afternoon), I was quite surprised and kinda proud of myself for capping off the day with another one. I think how Tun engages both in and out of the bedroom makes the difference. I may be generalising but from experience, I usually have better experience with MBs/bar boys/masseurs who are a bit older. Could be  maturity? Less appetite for dramatics? Old enough to know the value of money so they tend to equate level of service? or considered old and less marketable by trade standards hence compensating through better service? Honestly,  I don't know. Good thing though is that Asian guys who are in their 30s are still eye candies.

We woke up a lot late than usual. Quite disappointed that with this late start, I wont be able to do my planned last massage session before flying out. It didn't help that Tun lingered even after I gave him his tip. Seriously, how do you tell a hunky, freshly showered, half naked Tawan guy to leave? I then had a light bulb moment that includes him dropping the towel wrapped around his waist and us marching back to the room. My last hurrah for this trip.

With the above disappointment taken cared of, we had a relaxed lunch outside the apartment. When we finished, I handed him an extra tip which is the amount I set aside to tip my supposed to be masseur for today - then off we went our separate ways.

This left me with a couple more hours before my pre booked airport pickup arrive. Plenty of time to pack up, get myself sorted and reflect a bit before saying a temporary goodbye to this gorgeous city.

 

 

[vinapu]

56 minutes ago, CallMeLee said:

1/ He even grabbed my hand and directed it down his crotch area.

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2/ I usually have better experience with MBs/bar boys/masseurs who are a bit older. Could be  maturity? Less appetite for dramatics? Old enough to know the value of money so they tend to equate level of service? or considered old and less marketable by trade standards hence compensating through better service?
 

 

1/ it's quite common trick used by Tawan boys since Romam Empire and they know it works

2/ I'm of exactly the same opinion and reason is  mix of all you listed. I'd add that a lot of them are straight or at least they think   they are and they know they need to perform better in order to stay in the field.

Too bad you did not venture to Prince as they are opened ( one of Dreamboys guys Lined  me he moved there )as so far we did not get any reports from there ( I got one by PM and my friend was very moderately impressed)

[DenverDude]

Hey, so I am a Tawan virgin. 😂. Is it possible to off one of them for short time earlier in the evening before the show? Planning ahead for this Thursday evening.. 

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, DenverDude said:

Hey, so I am a Tawan virgin. 😂. Is it possible to off one of them for short time earlier in the evening before the show? Planning ahead for this Thursday evening.. 

sure, they start showing around 7.30 - 8 and if your boy is there you can take him right away. Show starts only at 10.30 or so. 

Alternatively day before  you may arrange with  him meeting  for any time during next day.

For short time you may even utilize one of their massage rooms upstairs -  but they charge you extra for that.

[DenverDude]

On 10/16/2023 at 6:46 AM, vinapu said:

sure, they start showing around 7.30 - 8 and if your boy is there you can take him right away. Show starts only at 10.30 or so. 

Well I am still a Tawan virgin.  I think I was there a bit too early (around 7PM).  I was approached by one boy in front of Tawan who wanted me to off him, but he wasn't my type.  Didn't appear to be any others there.  I ended up going to Arena and had a great time.  Will have to look forward to Tawan on a future trip.

[reader]

Thanks for the update. You write candidly and memorably.

[vinapu]

10 hours ago, DenverDude said:

Well I am still a Tawan virgin.  I think I was there a bit too early (around 7PM).  I was approached by one boy in front of Tawan who wanted me to off him, but he wasn't my type.  Didn't appear to be any others there.  I ended up going to Arena and had a great time.  Will have to look forward to Tawan on a future trip.

advantage of being early , not only in Tawan  but in every bar,  is that you may have first pick on boy you are interested in .

But there are 2 disadvantages, first is many guy will show up for work later, depending of bar it may be as late as 9-9.30.

Second is that guy offed early may try to rush things up to cash in and return to bar  hoping for another off. Happened to me few times.

Now , having learned my lesson , if I'm early and see the guy I like but don't want to take him right away I pay off fee to secure an appointment and show up to pick him at later hour or buy him a drink and tell him I want to see the show and we will go only after the show. 

[Boy69]

16 minutes ago, vinapu said:

advantage of being early , not only in Tawan  but in every bar,  is that you may have first pick on boy you are interested in .

But there are 2 disadvantages, first is many guy will show up for work later, depending of bar it may be as late as 9-9.30.

Second is that guy offed early may try to rush things up to cash in and return to bar  hoping for another off. Happened to me few times.

Now , having learned my lesson , if I'm early and see the guy I like but don't want to take him right away I pay off fee to secure an appointment and show up to pick him at later hour or buy him a drink and tell him I want to see the show and we will go only after the show. 

It can happen later too , I offed boy from Screw Boys at 22:30 after less an hour he left but I noticed he forgot his watch went back to the bar at midnight and gave it to the mamasan because he was busy on stage again... 

[CallMeLee]

Post trip reflections.

Highlights

- S'sense is a big winner and a pleasant discovery for this trip. I always tend to go to a no hanky panky spa for a decent massage and then visit another place in search of the fun extras. I am delighted that from experience, both elements are present in S'sense. 

I always make it a point to avoid  recommending a specific guy as experiences and individual connection can vary. However, I would recommend Knott just for his massage skills alone.
 
- Hotmale is another surprise. I am pleased that I gave this place a second chance after a lack lustre experience from my first visit. 

- My meetups through apps have been consistently pleasant during this trip. While this mode takes heaps of time and effort to weed out time wasters and dodgy characters, it can be worth it. My meetups with non Thailand based MBs thru the app is a new Bangkok experience  for me.

- Tawan is always a highlight. The unpretentious ,relaxed and friendly atmosphere is something other boy bars are not able to duplicate.

- Kman Spa. Another notable discovery this trip. Worth the effort getting there. Looking forward to explore the other establishments in the Saphan Kwai area next time.

- LTs: maybe because of the lean season, securing LTs are not as difficult compared to previous experience pre pandemic. Most guys are also not in a hurry to go home the next morning. Maybe it's just my luck this time.

Lowlights 
- Banana bar just didn't tick any of my boxes this time. I'm not sure if its unusual but they only had four performers rotating the whole time I was there. People will take a peek by the door and will instantly walk off.

- Fresh boys is always a lowlight for me but I always end up visiting at least once every trip. The lack of subtlety on the part of waiters and Mamasans when asking for tips and drinks can be  irritating. I mean asking for tips/drinks within the first minute of conversation?

- AirBnB: given its legal status in Thailand, I always second guess and brace myself everytime I bring a boy back. The apartment I rented have posted notices and banners saying that the building is strictly for residential use and not for short rental like air bnb. The notices were written in a way that the renters can get into trouble if they don't report this to building management. But again, this is Thailand. While I didn't have any issues during my previous stay, I'll stick to the usual tried and tested Silom hotels next time.

- Jupiter: as advised,  I will try to ignore the ice cold standoffish behaviour of the guys next time. I might be in for a surprise.

- Dreamboys is a mixed bag for me. While their new place is a definite improvement, both my visits didn't result to an off. Not crossing this off my list and will give it a try next time.

Compared from my visit last year, things are really looking very positive. There seems to be no remnants of the pandemic and Silom / Surawong area is bustling with most establishments back to operating till late night / early morning. Overall, this 12 day experience have been pleasant with no major dramatics with any of my off. Fingers crossed it will be like this next time.

Thank you for reading my reports and hopefully this will be of help to you guys for your next trip. I am looking forward reading your future reports too!
 

[forrestreid]

Thanks for your well written reports, with plenty of advice and opinions. A real pleasure to read, and useful too. You have inspired me to make my way to Suan Phlu Market in the next time I am there, to try out the S'Sense guys.

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, CallMeLee said:

 
- Hotmale is another surprise. I am pleased that I gave this place a second chance after a lack lustre experience from my first visit. 

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- Jupiter: as advised,  I will try to ignore the ice cold standoffish behaviour of the guys next time. I might be in for a surprise.

- Dreamboys is a mixed bag for me. While their new place is a definite improvement, both my visits didn't result to an off. Not crossing this off my list and will give it a try next time.

 

always  give 2nd chance. One visit proves nothin other than either good or bad luck.

The same goes with offs or massages. 

At Jupiter you call boy to seat with you and you may be surprised smile of of the sudden appears.

I always try to visit every bar at least once , even if just for a drink. One never knows. Boys are moving from bar to bar too and your last trip highlight may be now in bar you not so much fond off.

Thank you for great report and leads 

[JackR]

On 10/22/2023 at 8:33 PM, CallMeLee said:

 

- Fresh boys is always a lowlight for me but I always end up visiting at least once every trip. The lack of subtlety on the part of waiters and Mamasans when asking for tips and drinks can be  irritating. I mean asking for tips/drinks within the first minute of conversation?

 

 

Thanks for your great report.

What kind of guys are in Fresh boys? I was here once when it was in Soi Twilight, but I wasn't into them at all. Seemed not quite twinks, but also not quite jocks.

 

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, JackR said:

 

What kind of guys are in Fresh boys? I was here once when it was in Soi Twilight, but I wasn't into them at all. Seemed not quite twinks, but also not quite jocks.

 

mostly twinks