t0oL1 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-based-lies-wagner-183213913.html STORY: The head of Russia's Wagner Group mercenary organization is, for the first time, publicly rejecting Moscow's official justification for the war in Ukraine, saying the reason for the invasion was based on lies... ... running directly counter to President Putin's own statements... ...And marking a new milestone in the months long feud between the Wagner founder, Yevgeny Prigozhin, and Russia's top military brass. This is part of Prigozhin's video, which was posted on Telegram: "Why was the war needed? The war was needed so that a handful of scumbags could have a blast and get PR attention showing how strong the army is." "The war was needed not in order to return Russian citizens to our bosom. And not in order to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine. It was needed for one star with additional embroidery so that one mentally sick man could look good on a coffin pillow." "Shoigu lives by the principle that 'a lie must be horrific for people to believe it'. That's when the lies come." Prigozhin is referring to Russia's defense minister, Sergei Shoigu, a constant target of his criticism. He's often accused Shoigu and other military leaders of incompetence, but rejecting the core reasons for the war is new for Prigozhin. He says Shoigu is deceiving President Putin, and that the war was also used to enrich the ruling elite. Prigozhin also specifically uses the word "war" in the video, not the phrase "special military operation" used by the Kremlin. Prigozhin has enjoyed unusual freedom in publicly criticizing Moscow, although not Putin himself, whom he relies on for support. alvnv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterRS Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 That yahoo story is dated June 24. GIven that Prigozhin was murdered long after, I cannot imagine his comments now bear much weight in Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 very few tears were shed for that man even if we can agree with some of his comments above about the war. Russians had taste of what happens when state is relinquishing it's monopoly on using of force. Sooner or later hydra rises. alvnv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0oL1 Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 All the more reason to post this now before it is gone. Could be the only worthy thing he did in his life- telling the truth about the WAR. vinapu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0oL1 Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/07/russian-prisoners-trained-by-wagner-chief-how-to-finish-off-ukrainian-children-19464525/ Wagner paramilitary group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin trained Russian mercenaries to ‘murder children and women’ by throwing grenades through the windows of their homes in Ukraine. Former prisoners from the Irkutsk region, Alexey Chernyavsky and Maxim Zelenov, fought in the Donetsk region after signing contracts with the PMC in November last year. Like thousands of others, they were pardoned of their crimes by Vladimir Putin to be deployed to villages near the eastern city of Soledar for what they described as ‘cleansing’. The ex-convicts recalled how the warlord personally taught his fighters how to kill ‘Wagner-style’ when invading. alvnv, PeterRS and vinapu 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
