Hidden camera scam exposes vulnerability of online sex workers

[reader]

From Pattaya Mail

A 27-year-old individual, known by the alias “Lee,” bravely recounted his unsettling encounter as both a young transvestite and an online sex worker in hopes of alerting others about potential dangers. Lee’s intention in sharing his story is to caution individuals against falling victim to a similar scam.

Lee, who supplements his income by engaging with foreigners on a mobile application, shared his cautionary tale after an unsettling incident. Connecting with a foreigner through a dating app, he agreed to meet the individual at a hotel for a night.

Initially, Lee did not detect anything amiss upon entering the hotel room. However, as the interaction progressed and clothes were shed, he noticed hidden cameras discreetly placed around the room. One was protruding from an unzipped bag, while another was positioned atop the television frame. Feeling uncomfortable, Lee moved to a sofa in an effort to avoid being caught on camera. Despite his objections and reluctance to engage in any sexual activity, the foreigner persisted in recording him.

Lee clarified that his purpose was solely to secure financial stability and support himself. He made efforts to communicate expectations prior to meetings to preclude misunderstandings or conflicts with clients or hotel staff. Lee also indicated his reluctance to comply with certain requests and maintained discretion about his online work to sidestep potential customer conflicts.

To safeguard himself, Lee covertly employed his phone to gather evidence of the hidden cameras. His primary concern is for others who might find themselves in comparable predicaments, and he urges them to remain cautious and prioritize their safety. While he acknowledges the limitations of legal protection in cases like his, he aims to heighten societal awareness to prevent similar incidents from occurring in the future.

 

 

[omega]

Honestly sad and depressing that guys do this kind of shit.

I guess its about getting the thrill, the power trip, from doing something to someone without their consent.

But it's actually pathetic, and makes one exactly like the other digusting individuals who violate consent.

[vinapu]

While pathetic It may work other way.

It was in one of pre-covid trips , I noticed that  one of guys I hosted  manipulates his phone strange way moving it from one end of table to another and when I asked '  are you trying to record us ?" he did not bother with any answer. Did not protest when  I cover it with something either. To this day I'm not sure it was just coincidence, my hyper sensitivity or something sinister.

[omega]

4 hours ago, vinapu said:

While pathetic It may work other way.

It was in one of pre-covid trips , I noticed that  one of guys I hosted  manipulates his phone strange way moving it from one end of table to another and when I asked '  are you trying to record us ?" he did not bother with any answer. Did not protest when  I cover it with something either. To this day I'm not sure it was just coincidence, my hyper sensitivity or something sinister.

OH Absolutely it's the same either way.

If the phone isn't flat on the table, I'd get suspicious. And I'd be super offended if they start playing with their phone mid- session.

But, I am generally like to say yes if a guy wants to film... so long as he keeps my face out and uses my phone so I can review and delete at will

 

[vinapu]

31 minutes ago, omega said:

And I'd be super offended if they start playing with their phone mid- session.

 

I'm not offended , I tell them right away ' leave that phone alone', mercifully to their credit  it doesn't happen too often , even with new untested guys. Earlier in smartphone area it seemed to be more of problem , now everybody got more  civilized and sensitive to other's presence.

Although exceptions apply - as desrcibed in one of my last year's reports, one of my guys and not even new  got so tickled that I told him 'leave that phone alone" that he just packed and left forfeiting following 3 days of  income ( ibroght him for Pattaya for 4 days at 4000 a day. But that was special addiction case , later cured.

[omega]

Just now, vinapu said:

I'm not offended , I tell them right away ' leave that phone alone', mercifully to their credit  it doesn't happen too often , even with new untested guys. Earlier in smartphone area it seemed to be more of problem , now everybody got more  civilized and sensitive to other's presence.

Although exceptions apply - as desrcibed in one of my last year's reports, one of my guys and not even new  got so tickled that I told him 'leave that phone alone" that he just packed and left forfeiting following 3 days of  income ( ibroght him for Pattaya for 4 days at 4000 a day. But that was special addiction case , later cured.

To be fair, I don't have quite the same perspective, I think

Though if one is paying for their time, it should be expected that they give all of that time, and not be playing on their phones.

[vinapu]

19 minutes ago, omega said:

 

Though if one is paying for their time, it should be expected that they give all of that time, and not be playing on their phones.

that's bottom line

[PeterRS]

9 hours ago, vinapu said:

that's bottom line

. . . and what's the top line? 😵

[floridarob]

44 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

. . . and what's the top line? 😵

4000 THB a day for 4 days, lol

[Boy69]

11 hours ago, vinapu said:

I'm not offended , I tell them right away ' leave that phone alone', mercifully to their credit  it doesn't happen too often , even with new untested guys. Earlier in smartphone area it seemed to be more of problem , now everybody got more  civilized and sensitive to other's presence.

Although exceptions apply - as desrcibed in one of my last year's reports, one of my guys and not even new  got so tickled that I told him 'leave that phone alone" that he just packed and left forfeiting following 3 days of  income ( ibroght him for Pattaya for 4 days at 4000 a day. But that was special addiction case , later cured.

If it happened to me I would ask him to leave immediately  , a guy who is trying to film his clients surely had bad intentions to use it for questionable purposes,  he did you a favor by packing and leaving. 

 

[vinapu]

10 hours ago, floridarob said:

4000 THB a day for 4 days, lol

there are boys in existence  I'd gladly pay even more.

Whether it makes sense  to keep guy chained to myself whole day is another issue and I'd say not really while in the same place. May make sense when travelling though.

[vinapu]

9 hours ago, Boy69 said:

If it happened to me I would ask him to leave immediately  , a guy who is trying to film his clients surely had bad intentions to use it for questionable purposes,  he did you a favor by packing and leaving. 

 

you mixed two my recent stories up. Guy you are commenting on did not try to film or record anything. He simply couldn't detach himself from his phone, even in depth of the night. When I told him it's too much , after all he id on paid time he simply packed and left forfeiting promised income .

Then by his own admission (I met him in Pattaya 2 weeks later) he realized how stupid it was and fell into bout of depression. Bottom line is good though, he learned his mistake and improved.

[NIrishGuy]

On 8/30/2023 at 2:22 PM, vinapu said:

  are you trying to record us ?" 

Likewise same happened to me on one of very first trips to Bkk many moons ago, where the guy I was with had apparently recorded me / us at various times, both clothed and not and sure enough when done and he tried to do me over for WAY more money then would ever be acceptable to any of us.  Then he then turned nasty of ocurse, telling me that he knew the hotel staff and could get my home address details and threatened to send all the pics plus details of "what we'd gotten up to" straight to my "wife" !! I think my howls of laughter and my firm "ha you go right ahead, this should be interesting considering I'm single and gay" threw him somewhat. 

But it was quite obvious that this was a game he'd played many times before, obviously factoring in that if even just 20% of his customers WERE straight men perhaps "experimenting or playing away from home" then they'd probably be more than happy to pay up whatever he asked just to avoid the risk.

Pleased to say that this was after some great sex and after his vain attempts at blackmail he left ( almost) empty handed with the hotel staff throwing him onto the street after him throwing over a few light fittings and things in the room all o try and intimidate me. He then threatening to "find me" no matter where I was in Thailand ! ( although looking back now that probably wouldn't have been that difficult to achieve if he had of actually wanted to of course !) 

Interestingly, we bumped into each other in DJ Station a few years later and he actually apologised and admitted it had been a bad time in his life and he'd been on a lot of drugs etc and asked would I accept a beer along with his apology ( which I did) and we parted the best of friends and have actually bumped into each other a few times since and always stop to say hi and catch up.

Ha I sometime wish I'd of asked him a copy of whatever pics he said he had so I could look back on them fondly in my dotage but alas that moment has passed  🙂