Popular Post vinapu Posted August 24, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 24, 2023 When I returned from my ‘reward’ trip in beginning of June I did not have any idea when next trip may be. In summer I was planning to see my sister living in another country. Family politics though created some free time before I went to see her and I decided to utilize it for yet another trip this year. Main motivation was that two of my forum friends , further referred as MJ and MK were planning to be there in BKK at the same time and then , as reinforcement, another one, MA, announced he will be arriving few days after me. Secondary motivation was they I never been in Thailand in July and now after returning from that trip I have only March and April to cover. Since it was trip within previously arranged trip there were some potential connection problems i.e . my ticket was non-refundable and I had only 3 hours to make connection in Berlin but all went according to the plan. Last trip I was complaining about yakking neighbors, this time it was my turn as I had two seat companions, , elderly Swede and young, handsome like hell, half-Thai and half-French, both talkative so I must say flight went very fast, not that we were talking all the time. Arrived at noon, small jubilee as it was 30th landing in Thialand . I smartly decided to utilize luggage waiting time to buy SIM card and it was bright idea as my suitcase popped out exactly in moment I approached conveyor belt. In 1 hour from landing I was already in the train reporting to reader, MJ and MK that all went well and I’m in Bangkok indeed. I like to change hotels every 2 -3 nights but this time I decided to settle in 9-4 configuration and my hotel for first 9 night was Quarter SalaDaeng, former Siri Sathorn. About 10 minutes walk from Sala Daeng BTS. Room was impressive , rather like small apartment with separate living room , kitchen and bedroom areas and with quite opulent buffet breakfast included. Very good value for money although not all was rosy. As it turned later walls were paper thin and at night I/we ( in Thailand I rarely sleep alone out of fear of ghosts) could hear very well what is going on on other side. Also to get hot water some time was required before it started lowing. MK who stay in the same hotel did not have such problem though. Day 1 Soon after I tidy myself over after long trek MK knocked to my door , it was our first meeting since pre-covid. It was nice to see old friend after such long break. Next was walk to XOne on Suriwong to exchange some money and I found rate quite good, nice surprise. Straight from there to Coffee Grinder for meeting with reader. I managed to catch him day before his return home so we had good time exchanging latest news while ogling cute waiters in the process. At 8.30 three of us , MJ who is staying nearby , MK and me went to G’Bangkok for dinner. Mid week and low season- both were evident as place was quite empty. Since we were in soi 4 already next step was kind of obvious-Jupiter. Not very busy as well so we got very good seats . There were 4 walkabouts by their boys, first in briefs , second in boxers, last two in jeans but with numbers. Most boys sported those so not many were offed or reserved, another sign of low season. We stay till end of show and then I decided to start improving economy , called muscular and hairless Vietnamese named Tam. As always I asked about long time but we couldn’t come to terms about compensation so we settled on hot and steamy, very pleasant although bit rushed in true Jupiter form , short time. I liked him very much and would gladly employ him few more times but since his request was above what I’m was prepared to fork out it was our last meeting this trip even if he tried to extract subsequent offs by messaging me daily. I stay firm declining those advances. Next time ,next trip , yes. Day 2 After long trip and steamy meeting I slept very well, like a stone. MJ joined me for a breakfast as his place is not offering it and I have one for two anyways. As always we exchanged news and impressions and decided to go to Jey Spa for 2 pm. We went by Grab, I booked the same guy I had few times previously- Maii . He remembered me and remembered what I like. Who cares about massage ? Great session , great guy, great place with great selection. In the afternoon a bit of jet lag so I collapsed on the bed for few hours. At 8.30 again our trio MJ, MK and me went to G’Bangkok for dinner warmly greeted by the boss himself (he was absent yesterday) who was surprised to see me again after only few weeks. Restaurant was busy for a change. Next we opted for Moonlight tonight. Not very busy, again low season. Neither A nor Y, my favorites from there were present but I noticed new , very cute boy. Mamasan told me he is Cambodian who started just today. So I rushed with 100 note toward him for a good start but asked mamasan to call Y and ask if he wants to go with me. Description of customer was somewhat not clear because Y asked to see my picture and only when mamasan sent it to him he said is rushing immediately. When he mention shower I told him not to bother he can take in my room. Soon he came , all smiles. Not long after we were walking home. Offer of dinner declined but as soon as we entered room he asked for few minutes so he can go and buy something to eat. I noticed certain patter here as it was not first time. Either he doesn’t want to be seen with farang in restaurant or, much more likely he doesn’t want me to spent too much money on his food. It did not take much time for him to return so we could start discussing recent elections of village councils in Burkina Faso and Eswatini ( former Swaziland). Not sure people on other side of wall could hear us but for sure we could hear them , more or less discussing the same elections but in guy/ girl configuration. Y is great guy who knows how to keep me smiling, that was my last thought before falling asleep. 18past19, TotallyOz, Mavica and 28 others 31 Quote
10tazione Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 9 hours ago, vinapu said: Also to get hot water some time was required before it started lowing. MK who stay in the same hotel did not have such problem though I guess this is more likely on higher floors? I add one more negative thing: no plug nowhere near the bed, not even near the desk, disadvantage of older hotels. If I stay again in this hotel I will bring an extension cable. Quote
10tazione Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 9 hours ago, vinapu said: decided to start improving economy I like your selflessness! vinapu and Ryanqqq 2 Quote
10tazione Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 9 hours ago, vinapu said: discussing recent elections of village councils in Burkina Faso and Eswatini I am amazed how versatile SE Asians are! vinapu 1 Quote
18past19 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 your report’s bringing back good memories. i felt like it was years ago already. vinapu and 10tazione 2 Quote
18past19 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 to supplement, it’s what vinapu wrote about our visit to jupiter on our first night on last trip. i off’ed a super handsome cambodian guy with an excellent body. and yes he did perform very well. vinapu and Boy69 2 Quote
fedssocr Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 9 hours ago, 10tazione said: I guess this is more likely on higher floors? I add one more negative thing: no plug nowhere near the bed, not even near the desk, disadvantage of older hotels. If I stay again in this hotel I will bring an extension cable. Did you ask at the front desk? They could probably provide one for you. I stayed at this place several times in the past. I really like the feeling of having a full apartment and they always had good deals. And even after the first time they welcomed me back. I presume they have a good database that alerts them to return guests. But I don't know how the change of brand may have changed things. But eventually I switched to the Crowne Plaza because of its better location and IHG affiliation even though it's not apartments. 10tazione 1 Quote
vinapu Posted August 24, 2023 Author Posted August 24, 2023 10 hours ago, 10tazione said: I guess this is more likely on higher floors? I add one more negative thing: no plug nowhere near the bed, not even near the desk, disadvantage of older hotels. If I stay again in this hotel I will bring an extension cable. no, MK stay actually on higher floor but at other end of corridor and did not have such water issues. On another hand I had plug very near desk and by the bed as well. So there was some inconsistency in that hotel but sizable rooms and great breakfast made for those inconveniences as far as I'm concerned 10tazione, Boy69 and Ryanqqq 2 1 Quote
vinapu Posted August 24, 2023 Author Posted August 24, 2023 10 hours ago, 10tazione said: I like your selflessness! # me too Quote
vinapu Posted August 24, 2023 Author Posted August 24, 2023 10 hours ago, 10tazione said: I am amazed how versatile SE Asians are! I trained some of them well it seems KeepItReal and CTCI8F 2 Quote
vinapu Posted August 24, 2023 Author Posted August 24, 2023 7 hours ago, 18past19 said: your report’s bringing back good memories. i felt like it was years ago already. and typing it brings best memories for me as well. That trip proved that tons of fun can be had in Thailand day and night those days despite of what some doomsayers may say. 18past19 1 Quote
vinapu Posted August 25, 2023 Author Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, fedssocr said: ......I switched to the Crowne Plaza because of its better location and IHG affiliation even though it's not apartments. at current prices I must say that at Quarter SalaDaeng I had room of double size for 1/4 of Crowne Plaza price. During covid their prices were in my league ( I stay there 4 nights over Christmas 2021) but not any more. Location and amenities are great but not a place for poor pensioners , that sure thing. Boy69 and Ryanqqq 2 Quote
fedssocr Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 I have lots of IHG points and some free night certificates which really can make it more affordable. Ryanqqq 1 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted August 25, 2023 Author Popular Post Posted August 25, 2023 Day 3 In the morning MJ joined Y and me breakfast and after breakfast I got bit amorous so asked Y to return to the room for a little bit more electoral discussions. 1 hour, 1 thousand , pure pleasure. Today I’m planning to see latest Indiana Jones movie, MK expressed an interest in that as well and so did Y as soon as I mentioned about such an opportunity. When Y left I went to Sam Yan Mitrtown to buy a tickets which turned out not necessary to do in advance as cinema was hardly crowded. In early afternoon MK and me walked there all the way from hotel. Y appeared at the same time, so much about boys not able to keep appointed time . As for movie itself I liked it, 2 hours action non stop although story itself bit too sophisticated for my liking but I won’t say more not to spoil it for those who did not have a chance to see movie yet. I asked Y if he will be interested in repeating last night which made him visibly happy, which in turn boosted my ego exponentially and I had sweetener for that deal too. MJ and his friend are planning seafood buffet dinner atop of Baiyoke Sky tonight, MJ asked me to join in as I know his friend and I in turn asked Y if he would be interested to attend. He smiled even more broadly thinking probably “that old fool is spoiling me today big time”. He arrived at hotel on the dot and at 6.30 pm our trio took taxi to Baiyoke where MJ’s friend was waiting for us already at the entrance. Great time was had by all, food and conversation were excellent although I couldn’t utilize food in full tending to be bit allergic to the seafood. After dinner we went to moving platform on the top to admire Bangkok by night and take some pictures. Great evening and great company. Upon returning to hotel we did not waste much time to return to our discussions, this time about subway plans for Asuncion , Paraguay and Maputo, Mozambique. Day 4 started soon after midnight. Somebody threw party and with walls paper thin it was noisy to a point of nuisance. I’m actually surprised that hotel management did not intervened as it could be certainly heard on reception. Since I had such company I was not that much interested in sleeping so we carried on. When they stopped it was already dawning so we got some sleep in the morning. Over breakfast conversation came to subject of Mahanakhon. Not sure who started it but it turned that Y never was there so I suggested we go today. Pilgrimage to that glass at 314 meters above the ground is my must do every trip. Y went home to change clothes and when we met at the tower 1.5 hr. later all I could say was ‘wow’ . Certainly he dressed for occasion. Yes, I saw few heads turning , both in lobby and at the top. Neither hysterics nor excessive sweating on the glass which can’t be said about every boy I invited there and I invited quite a few over years. I suggested we have a drink and was surprised that after carefully studying price list he asked for coffee, cheapest item. That guy is a gem. Not that I did not know before. Word of advice for those entertaining idea of taking boy there. Since that’s quite expensive foray please make sure that guy you are inviting there is really interested in going and not doing that just to make you happy. I had few guys who did not enjoy the heights and even one who said afterwards that he would prefer to receive half admission fee ( 880 baht ) in cash instead. Anyways Y was happy and so was I. After quite intensive 2 days in his company I told him he will be free tonight as I had other plans but promised to see him again. We do have chemistry , that’s good news. I returned to hotel to have a rest after sleepless night. In the afternoon I went to soi 6 where N, the masseur was surprised to see me . Of course we had massage session which turned more romantic than therapeutic. For dinner I suggested to MK Madrid Tavern to which he agreed and we went there by BTS and walked from Saphan Taksn Station. Lady’s reaction there was funny “ you still here, you told me last time you going home ?” so I explained that in fact I left and I’m back again. Not sure she was convicted though. Anyways pizza was great as always. We returned to Silom by bus and resolved to visit Tawan tonight as both MK and me are fond of their offerings. So hour or two later with pockets full I went there , MK was already in. as always I was mobbed by boys but used MK presence claiming he is my boyfriend and won’t be offing anybody tonight which eased a bit of tip requests. I was hoping S will be there and he was indeed so I secured him for long time tonight but we soldiered on in the bar till midnight when bar started emptying. Again it was no problem walking there, S modestly asked for some food on the street. Tonight my floor was quiet , no party , no noises so it felt like just S and me. He knows what I like and I know what he likes (over market tips ) so again great chemistry. NickParis, TMax, TotallyOz and 18 others 21 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted August 25, 2023 Author Popular Post Posted August 25, 2023 Day 5 Quite active morning which is what I like. What I didn’t like but at least expected it was his tip request. As I said yesterday, he likes his tips over market , at least from me , lol. But since I always say I rather overpay and be happy than save money and be just Ok. So I succumbed to his bit inflated request (1000 more than I gave him initially). At least he worked for it, sand bag he is not, that’s sure. MJ joined us for breakfast, we resolved to go to MBK for Japanese dinner later on and parted ways. I took haircut on Silom and then went to new Foodland just opened in the basement of Silom Park. Menu in restaurant the same like in sisterly Foodland Patpong. In the store several good deals of 2 for 1 type , unfortunately not on items which interested me. Then to Coffee Grinder to met newly arrived this morning another member MA. It was a while since we met last time so a lot news to share, very esthetic task considering is sweetened by ogling their cute waiters. We agreed on Hot Male visit tonight. At 4 pm MJ and me were supposed to meet S on Sala Daeng platform but somehow S mixed it up and went to MBK . After ½ hr, of waiting we decided to cut our loses and went to Foodland Patpong instead, instructing S who called me in meantime to show there if he wants. He did so we had opulent 7 stars dinner together. After that MJ went his way and S suggested he will walk me to hotel but on our way we can drop at Silom Center as Central there has original Lee jeans on sale. Nice scheming and abuse of my soft spot for him but I tagged along. Indeed they were discounted to 1250 a piece and S wasted no time to point deal is valid on purchase of three pairs only. Ok I sighted but you will come to my room to try them afterward. Idea was accepted enthusiastically. Not only in the mall but also in the room so We had quite funny yet steamy short time session. Not that short by the way I’d say 1 hr. per pair. Not only tip free but visually strong as he looked in those jeans very well and with bleeding heart I was helping him to remove each pair, one after another. But when asked about repeat of last night I was rude enough to say I have cheaper option. He still left happy though. Around 9 pm 20 baht motosai to Silom and short walk to Hot Male. While crossing Silom walking I noticed familiar face. It took me few seconds to connect the dots . Arthur, porn actor featuring in “Beautiful Flower “ from GThai series among others. Smiled at him and got smile back when he marched past me. Stars smiling at me tonight thought I . At Hot Male MA and me had few drinks with boys in beer bar and then went for show upstairs. I was hoping certain SK will be there but he was not but mamasan offered to call him . By time show was over he arrived recognizing me immediately. So after all I did not lie to S that I have cheaper option tonight. Cheaper and sweet, time tested companion who never asked for anything other than to be offed again. moistmango, spoon, Mateo_37 and 16 others 19 Quote
Keithambrose Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 Your stamina is an example to us all! Incidentally, in UK, years ago, our satirical magazine, Private Eye, always printed stories involving sex as 'Ugandan discussions'! I believe the genesis was Idi Amin. Your comments reminded me. vinapu 1 Quote
10tazione Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 21 hours ago, fedssocr said: Did you ask at the front desk? They could probably provide one for you. I failed to see the obvious solutipn! Quote
Members scott456 Posted August 25, 2023 Members Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, 10tazione said: I failed to see the obvious solutipn! Or just buy one. It is widely available at many stores in Thailand. Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted August 26, 2023 Author Popular Post Posted August 26, 2023 Day 6 SK did not go with me for breakfast, only in the morning he told me his brother is sick and he need to go to hospital to visit him. He did not elaborate and when I asked he did not seem to be keen on talking about that. Otherwise lazy morning . busy doing nothing but filled with anticipation as at 12.30 I was expecting a visit from MJ’s friend , one who was with us on that Baiyoke Sky dinner. Hunky , handsome and skilled masseur. Another one who showed on the dot and we had great session. Bonus was he did not seem to be in rush at all. Secret was revealed when he was ready to go - he had another appointment in on of Sathorn hotels around the corner. He even said something about him having great business day. Afternoon I was even more busy doing noting other than stroll to new Foodland to eat something. Not much though as at 8.30 pm MA and I were supposed to dine at G’Bangkok. Always great food and atmosphere there. After the meal we took easy stroll across the soi to see first show at Banana. Mamasan Lucy seemed bit subdued, did not even bother to come and ask for tip, not that I complain. Hope she is Ok. Show was quite long , mostly lip syncing by pert-time divas but audience seemed to enjoy it so we both forced ourselves to enjoy it as well. At 11 pm we decided to see what is going ok in Moonlight. When we arrives show was almost over but bar was still packed, weekend I guess. Muscle god A spotted me right away, came all smiles , true to form I did not waste time either and told him no boy drink , dress up please and soon off we will go . Waiting for him I finished my drink ogling boys on stage . Spotted new cute boy # 5 and hunky # 45. Y was on the stage as well so on departure I tipped him and #45 just for good luck. A was hungry so we went to Happy Beer Garden around the corner to feed him , I was not hungry but ordered some gyozas to keep him company. Waitress Joy was happy to see me and I did not take any offence when she announced loudly ‘ O my God , my daddy is here”. I even treated her with Thai whisky at her own modest request. After we were done A proudly showed me his new motorcycle, not motorbike mind you, parked in front of Moonlight so we went to hotel big time in style. In the room some beer and our traditional wrestling, I always loose but I’m still proud it takes some effort for such a hunk to eventually crush me. He warned me that he needs to leave early which I did not mind as long as I am warned in advance, specially the he told me why and it was kind of serious thing he needs to take care of. NickParis, reader, JackR and 14 others 17 Quote
Boy69 Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 When guys want to leave they always come up with tragic stories and 'serious things' , why not just say : it was nice to meet you I have to go now goodbye ? floridarob 1 Quote
Members scott456 Posted August 26, 2023 Members Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Boy69 said: When guys want to leave they always come up with tragic stories and 'serious things' , why not just say : it was nice to meet you I have to go now goodbye ? Such as?.... Grandma in ICU? Wife in labor? Quote
fedssocr Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Boy69 said: When guys want to leave they always come up with tragic stories and 'serious things' , why not just say : it was nice to meet you I have to go now goodbye ? they're probably conditioned by jealous farang asking a lot of questions Ruthrieston, vinapu, Mavica and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted August 26, 2023 Author Popular Post Posted August 26, 2023 Day 7 we woke up at 6 and after short wrestling session and shower went for breakfast. That early I expected hotel restaurant to be empty and to my surprise it was almost full. Back in the room I tipped him. He did not seem to be happy, not that I was stingy. He likely noticed I’m surprised with his reaction so put himself together and said ‘thank you Buddha”. That’s better I thought. Problem with occasional over generous tip is that some guys expect it to be permanent fixture and that was likely a case. Today MA and me have tourist program – visit at GMMTV , producer of so many BL series headquarters in Ratachada. We went there by subway. There;s whole procedure before admission to gift shop on 30 something floor. We were told to leave passports on reception before we could enter elevator. Gift shop was mobbed by Asian girls so we both were bit out of place but they were [patiently waiting when we were browsing screens with memorial trinkets they offer for sale . At end of day nothing took our fancy but it was fun. Then we had coffee in Starbucks in the lobby , there were dozens of fans camping there hoping to catch the glimpse of one of their stars I guess. Then we parted ways. I went to Rama IX Central nearby on hunting mission. One of my most favorite guys of all times , M from Senso is hairdresser in one of shops there. I tried to spot him previously but did not succeed and neither I did today. Hope dies last though, it’s always next time ! Upon return to the room and it was already 3 pm I was surprised it was not cleaned yet but I went to XOne to change some money and when I returned it was already tidied. This afternoon I have meeting with guy I met by chance in one of previous trips who is not a guy from the scene. We talked occasionally from time to time . Last time we talked , one of us , I don’t remember who , suggested we should have dinner together one day . Today was the day. Kao is his name or at least it’s how he wants me to call him. I did not have any expectancies but was very curious to see if something more than talk and meal together comes out of it. He arrived on the dot at 5 as agreed. If this trip proved something it was that most boys are very punctual and on time contrary to what some slanderous farangs may say. To break the ice we went to place across hotel with some stalls and had some Lao craft beer there. When subject of something more substantial came he suggested meal in Sizzler on Silom. I liked idea although I don’t usually dine there but few years ago had birthday meal at the place with two other boys in tow. Surprisingly he suggested we walk there, so much about Thai guys being reluctant to walk. Reason given was even more endearing ‘ we will have more time to talk” ( his English is good conversational although he admitted he speaks tongue but doesn’t write it). That was a good sign no doubt. He was visibly reluctant to order as prices there are quite high but I made it easy for him “ do you want that steak?” , ‘too expensive “ , ‘ ok, one for you , one for me “. But I liked fact that he was trying not to take advantage of being treated. Best part came when we were considering drinks ‘ I have a juice, we can buy some beers at 7/11 and drink it in your room “ . Hearing it I thought I just have a stroke as it was something I was afraid even to dream about , him in my room , whoa !!! Nasty surprise came when we went to settle a bill. Not it’s size ( 2045 , not a cheap place I told you ) but fact they don’t take a cash. . Normally I don’ use plastic when I travel unless not given a choice and in Thailand I don’t even carry cards with me , keeping them in safe box. I like cash. If Guardian Angel did not suggest I take wallet with me just in case I wouldn’t. If I did not it were so embarrassing. I generally boycott places refusing to take cash and now I’m even more inclined to boycott them so likely it was my last visit at Sizzler Silom in this life for that very reason. Uff ! So we did as planned , stocked up on beer at 7/11 near hotel and went straight to the room. Yes, we drank all that beer and had very nice conversation and yes, as evening was unfolding we slowly but surely become bit more closer and closer but that’s nobody’s business. From what I thought it will be sober and well behaved evening it turned out to be quite romantic and interesting one even if two things were excluded by Kao from the menu – kiss and long time. Not that he was in rush to go , I was trying to use fact that he drunk quite a bit to keep him here even pointing to the fact that there’s bed in bedroom a but also sofa in the living room but he was firm “ I drive slowly and will sleep at home “. So around midnight I decided I let him go, I did not want him to get too drunk. We already agreed to met on another day this trip. It was one thing I was not sure how to handle not to create any offense to such great guy. You got it – should I tip or not. I decided to abandon any pretense of diplomacy and asked straight away “ can I give you some money?” to get an answer “ of course”. So I did. Long live Thailand where casual conversation may lead to such great afternoon and evening I thought when he closed door. nlwrestleboy, splinter1949, KeepItReal and 16 others 19 Quote
vinapu Posted August 26, 2023 Author Posted August 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Boy69 said: When guys want to leave they always come up with tragic stories and 'serious things' , why not just say : it was nice to meet you I have to go now goodbye ? 6 hours ago, scott456 said: Such as?.... Grandma in ICU? Wife in labor? most popular I heard over years is roommate forgot / lost key, motorbike is parked in wrong spot and yes, somebody in family had accident and he needs to go to hospital. I also recall 4am story ' I need to go now because I promised my friend to help with moving this morning" Whatever those stories are I don't see any sense of resisting and I just let them go taking my revenge next time they try to get another off . I tell them bluntly, no because last time you went earlier than agreed. Usually they use those tricks when they initially agree to long time just to land a deal and they don't have any inclination to stay that long or they find me boring and decide going back to bar or to bed is better option. So much for guys needing money. On another hand I don't mind if they tell me in advance they need to go. On this trip I had three legitimate early leavers, two cases were relatives in hospital indeed, enforced with pictures at their beds there. Another one was need to pick up somebody from bus station but it was announced when offing and mamasan was asked to inform me about that too. Ryanqqq, 18past19, Ruthrieston and 1 other 4 Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 8 hours ago, vinapu said: most popular I heard over years is roommate forgot / lost key, motorbike is parked in wrong spot and yes, somebody in family had accident and he needs to go to hospital. I also recall 4am story ' I need to go now because I promised my friend to help with moving this morning" Whatever those stories are I don't see any sense of resisting and I just let them go taking my revenge next time they try to get another off . I tell them bluntly, no because last time you went earlier than agreed. Usually they use those tricks when they initially agree to long time just to land a deal and they don't have any inclination to stay that long or they find me boring and decide going back to bar or to bed is better option. So much for guys needing money. On another hand I don't mind if they tell me in advance they need to go. On this trip I had three legitimate early leavers, two cases were relatives in hospital indeed, enforced with pictures at their beds there. Another one was need to pick up somebody from bus station but it was announced when offing and mamasan was asked to inform me about that too. I love hearing about your holiday. Thank you for the great reports! I recently sent 2,000 baht to an Instagram guy in Chonburi I wanted to meet. This was for a taxi to BKK (Know 1,000). But, I wanted to try anyway. 10 minutes later, he asked if I could send him again as his mother stole the money. I refused. Then, he wanted me to meet him at a mall in BKK, and again I refused. 100 conversations later, he told me his university was starting and needed shoes and could I help. I politely told him to get the money his mother stole from him back and buy 4 pairs. He said he was not lying and he wanted a life with me (never met). I told him I am not one to make the same mistake two times (again not true as I have before). But, that stopped his messages about life, love, and the pursuit of a date. Shocking I have not heard from him. Like you, I don't mind if it is legit and it is often a hard call but some are so so fucking obvious it is nuts. At least get in a fake taxi and say the driver would not drive you past the mall (or something). Ruthrieston, KeepItReal, vinapu and 1 other 4 Quote