I gave up on money boys

[Olddaddy]

The last 2 weeks in Pattaya recently I gave up on hiring  money boys !

It wasn't the same paying some to pound my butt as getting someone who wanted to do it 

I had more enjoyable time than reading on apps " how much you pay me ?

Can't you guys nowadays get free sex?

 

[reader]

Think of it this way: did you work for free or did you ask your would-be employer “how much you pay me”?

[gayinpattaya]

Free sex in Pattaya is often easier than paid. Just open Grindr.
But lust.... Well. 
Ultimately it depends on your desires. 
I often meet a boy in Jomtien, and money isn't an issue. I know that on my death bed, I don't want to regret not having him in bed. That's why I only walk the beach in the early hours once a week!  

[Olddaddy]

2 hours ago, gayinpattaya said:

Free sex in Pattaya is often easier than paid. Just open Grindr.
But lust.... Well. 
Ultimately it depends on your desires. 
I often meet a boy in Jomtien, and money isn't an issue. I know that on my death bed, I don't want to regret not having him in bed. That's why I only walk the beach in the early hours once a week!  

I walked the beach in the early hours too....saw one old money boy from the early 2000's walking & talking to himself,he offered me a BJ for 300 baht ,no thanks !

Headed to sansuk sauna got a fuck from a Malaysian guy ...free

 

[Olddaddy]

2 hours ago, reader said:

Think of it this way: did you work for free or did you ask your would-be employer “how much you pay me”?

I'm saying the point is ... nowadays you can get free sex , do you really need to pay and if so ...why?

It could be a number of reasons 

[Shonen]

I could get free sex, but I wouldn’t want it. I’m as old as you Daddy, and probably in better shape, but I like young sexy twinks. So I’ll spend my money and enjoy sex. With no regrets because I can afford it.

I doubt the sexy boys I have sex with would do it for free. In fact I find the boys less enthusiastic even when I pay. Because I’m older. Ten years ago I was met with more enthusiasm. I’m not overweight, but my skin isn’t young . I feel blessed that I’m in position to find so many willing to accept my paper for fun.

when I’m dying and probably have half a million in net worth going to my heirs, I might regret I didn’t blow more on the sex.

[PeterRS]

As has been stated quite a few times in this forum over the years, there is plenty of free sex in Thailand. The problem for tourists is they want/need almost instant gratification. So either they pay or they take precious time out of their vacations to find the guys that want to meet up without any issue of cash involved (apart perhaps from for transport as, in a large city like Bangkok with hotels in the centre, many of the students and young guys live and spend their time relatively far out). Many willing gay Thais study and work and so instant hook-ups are less common. 

[Olddaddy]

49 minutes ago, Shonen said:

I could get free sex, but I wouldn’t want it. I’m as old as you Daddy, and probably in better shape, but I like young sexy twinks. So I’ll spend my money and enjoy sex. With no regrets because I can afford it.

I doubt the sexy boys I have sex with would do it for free. In fact I find the boys less enthusiastic even when I pay. Because I’m older. Ten years ago I was met with more enthusiasm. I’m not overweight, but my skin isn’t young . I feel blessed that I’m in position to find so many willing to accept my paper for fun.

when I’m dying and probably have half a million in net worth going to my heirs, I might regret I didn’t blow more on the sex.

Post a pic 

🤣

[numazu]

2 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

I'm saying the point is ... nowadays you can get free sex , do you really need to pay and if so ...why?

I am sounding like a broken record but...

My last Thailand trip was at Songkran last April and, to be honest, I've only had free Grindr sex due to the throngs of available asian (and white!) gay tourists in town for Songkran and GCircuit.  This was my first Thailand trip ever where I did not off anyone from the bars or elsewhere. i didn't need to, and to be honest, I didn't want to. Another story for another time.

But when I am in Brazil, my sexual encounters are probably half paid from the saunas and half from Grindr.

I like paid encounters because of the aforementioned instant gratification and also getting to do (sex) things that you can't just do to anyone with someone who probably would be hotter than your normal Grindr fare. But sometimes Grindr is the only (viable) option at times. I was in Buenos Aires recently and trolling for paid guys in the sites seem to be super cumbersome, and the free market was, to me, surprisingly booming and amazing, teeming with very cute guys that are relatively very available right now.

As long as I can afford it I'll always have paid sex. And as long as I can get it I'll always have free sex. TLDR: I like sex. 

[scott456]

Free sex is good because first of all, it's free, and secondly your partner tend to be more proative, willing and horny. 

Paid sex is good because you save some time hunting on Grindr, and mostly likely you get better looking and nicer body guys. 

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, numazu said:

I am sounding like a broken record but...

I like that younger picture of you with longer hair......👩

[gayinpattaya]

3 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

I walked the beach in the early hours too....saw one old money boy from the early 2000's walking & talking to himself,he offered me a BJ for 300 baht ,no thanks !

Headed to sansuk sauna got a fuck from a Malaysian guy ...free

 

You really are not at the right place. 

Soi 12, opposite Pizza Company dear.. 

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, Shonen said:

 

I doubt the sexy boys I have sex with would do it for free. In fact I find the boys less enthusiastic even when I pay. 

 

3 hours ago, PeterRS said:

The problem for tourists is they want/need almost instant gratification.

I, d say, not a problem, rather fact of life. 

1 hour ago, scott456 said:

 

Paid sex is good because you save some time hunting on Grindr, and mostly likely you get better looking and nicer body guys. 

 

2 hours ago, numazu said:

I am sounding like a broken record but...

My last Thailand trip was at Songkran last April and, to be honest, I've only had free Grindr sex due to the throngs of available asian (and white!) gay tourists in town for Songkran and GCircuit.  This was my first Thailand trip ever where I did not off anyone from the bars or elsewhere. i didn't need to, and to be honest, I didn't want to. Another story for another time.

But when I am in Brazil, my sexual encounters are probably half paid from the saunas and half from Grindr.

I like paid encounters because of the aforementioned instant gratification and also getting to do (sex) things that you can't just do to anyone with someone who probably would be hotter than your normal Grindr fare. 

All quoted above is fountain of wisdom I fully agree with. 

I go to Jupiter and all the it boys is hiring material. I comb through Grindr and after checking 100 I see 2 or 3 I like  and then it turns out they want money anyways which is OK or turn out T the door looking less enticing which is not OK. 

[reader]

Old Daddy, I think I've found the solution to your quest: encourage a group of lustful young men who want to pound old daddy ass to volunteer to do it on a  pro bono basis. Surly among the posse of available talent, there must be a handful of eager, civic-minded candidates. And they'd be no legal problems because they're not getting paid.

The clever ones can probably take a tax write off.

[Mavica]

I recall a prior discussion in which Old Daddy said he'd sucked-off and/or eaten the asses of 60 guys in 60 days.  Unless he's got a heck of a lot of money to spend, at that volume of sex he is compelled to find it for free.  

But free or cheaper doesn't mean it's better.  Each of us is different, though, and, for some, quantity is more inportant than  quality. Then there are guys who want it all, for nothing ... who make a game out of being cheap, and the game becomes the priority ... not the sex. 

[floridarob]

3 minutes ago, Mavica said:

Each of us is different

I'll bet he's the only one on this board actively seeking elderly asians, then complains that some of the money boys are too old- 🤐

[Shonen]

Another reason I like to pay is because I’m rather selfish having sex. I like being edged for at least an hour and it’s not easy finding even money boys to do this. Their arm gets tired quickly but I found one who will gladly do it for the thousand baht I pay him.

So I’m also spoiled over the years from having my preference of guy so easy to find. At my age I suppose I should be having sex with someone closer to my age, though I can’t imagine it. Say I met Old Daddy and he wanted me to drill his pasty, blubbery white ass. I would demand 50,000 baht. Ha ha just kidding old daddy.

But seriously. Getting older it’s getting more difficult to even have sex at times. So I’m in even more need of a sexy boy. Unless you’re not picky and can get off with average looking guys and bodies, nothing wrong with free sex.

I also realize that many are on a strict budget and can’t afford to fly here or even pay for sex. I would hate to be in that position and I’m grateful that I’m able to. 

[scott456]

1 hour ago, Shonen said:

I also realize that many are on a strict budget and can’t afford to fly here or even pay for sex. I would hate to be in that position and I’m grateful that I’m able to. 

Some wealthy people don't need to fly to Thailand or central/south America to pay for sex.

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, scott456 said:

Some wealthy people don't need to fly to Thailand or central/south America to pay for sex.

Then they end up paying hush money or losing their jobs, like Les Moonves or Harvey Weinstein, wishing that they went to Thailand, lol

[scott456]

43 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Then they end up paying hush money or losing their jobs, like Les Moonves or Harvey Weinstein, wishing that they went to Thailand, lol

I said wealthy people, I didn't say celebrities.  If you are American celebrities or politicians, it doesn't matter where you go, the press will dig out your dirts. And, Les Moonves, Harvey Weinstein got in trouble because of sexual harassment, not because of paid sex.

There are plenty of prostitutes in America or Europe.  So the supply is there for the demand.

[macaroni21]

Not being a retiree, I can only make short visits to Thailand, or anywhere else in Southeast Asia, for that matter. So, as mentioned above, paid sex at business locations is the most time-effective way to get what I need. Except when one is hiring someone one has engaged before, it's always hit and miss. Paid sex hired through various digital platforms (also hit and miss), I have tried and given up. As have some of my friends for similar reasons - fake pictures, badly delayed arrival, the inconvenience of having to meet outside first, etc. Someone I know even had security issues with a guy he invited to his hotel despite meeting outside beforehand and paying for expensive coffee. Fortunately I haven't been in a similar situation.

I am realistic enough to recognise that since I do not want to have sex with someone like me, I really shouldn't expect anyone to be offering free sex to me. And yet, off and on, it has happened. Once in a while I still find myself being cruised on the streets or the metro. More often than not, they are not my type anyway, usually, a bit too fem and not because they are too old - I have relatively wide acceptability ranges for age and body types. I'm not someone who must have 20-something twinks or muscle jocks. 

But at my age, I have to pinch myself when I think someone is cruising me. Is this really happening? Why does he want my body? And then I start to think, oh he must be a moneyboy (sometimes a 45-year-old moneyboy)... but even when we get to talking, it's really hard to broach the subject to establish for sure whether it's going to transactional or not. It can cause offence, especially when expressed badly in a foreign language. Yet unless it is clear, the uncertainty can complicate how to proceed.

So, and I hate to say it, even in these rare occasions when I am cruised, I tend to turn down the offers. That said, there was one recent instance in Bali  which not only was non-transactional but turned out great. The next dayI asked myself, now how many potentially great encounters have I missed out on because I tend to be too careful?

[Tomtravel]

There are younger guys who like older guys. I have a friend who is 56 and his bf is 28. The younger one makes more money and is totally in love with the older fellow. In Berlin nightclub I have seen really senior gentelman sucking muscled young arab or kurdish guy, and that lasted long. Both were naked. In fact in India, MiddleEast, older guys are often desired (smart, experienced) and young guys are often seen as not interesting (dumb). 

[Shonen]

Aw geez, I need to go to the Middle East, in Thailand the boys think I’m too experienced ( old), and very dumb, ( can’t speak hardly a word of Thai).

[floridarob]

7 hours ago, Tomtravel said:

I have a friend who is 56 and his bf is 28.

how long they been together?

[PeterRS]

8 hours ago, Tomtravel said:

There are younger guys who like older guys.

This has been a recurrent theme over the years and it is sometimes derided by some posters. The fact is, as I can well attest, in many Asian countries there are some younger guys who only want an older "daddy" type. Not in the sense of being a sugar daddy (although I am sure there is any number of these guys) - merely because they 'love' being in love with older men. I have a farang friend here in Thailand who is legally married to his partner of 20 years and their age difference is 36 years. Another met his student Thai partner in DJ Station 26 years ago. They too are legally married and the younger Thai has an excellent and well-paid job in London. In the first case the young Thai had left school early but ran a small business. With his partner's help in marketing, especially overseas, that business has been booming for years and his income considerably exceeds the income enjoyed by the farang.

Although I do not use the apps in Thailand, they are on my phone for my regular sorties out of the country. Even here, though, I occasionally get guys in their 20s seeking to meet up with much older farang. Overseas, I recently wrote about my experience in a Taipei sauna. A young 22 year old recent graduate recognised me simply from one visit I had made to a hot spring 4 years earlier! We had not spoken at that time as his English was then non-existent. Now it is near perfect. I later noticed his app profile states he is only interested in an ltr with someone 50+.