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[scott456]

9 hours ago, Novarunner said:

If overnight is something you want, I’d try and work toward making the guy you want comfortable rather than attempting to offer him significantly more cash.

Or, making it very easy to make a little extra money.  For example,  only sleep no sex, or only blow job, hand job and no anal sex.  Believe it or not, most GP do not enjoy sex with you. It's only work and money for them.

[Phoenixblue]

37 minutes ago, scott456 said:

Believe it or not, most GP do not enjoy sex with you. It's only work and money for them.

This is a Cardinal Rule that most men, for whatever reason, seem to overlook.

Love, romance and affection are not involved. It is a commercial transaction pure and simple. Men renting their bodies for sex are not in love with you.

[vinapu]

38 minutes ago, scott456 said:

 Believe it or not, most GP do not enjoy sex with you. It's only work and money for them.

not that I don't agree but I'd say let GP to decide what they like or not without any assumption. 

[vinapu]

1 minute ago, Phoenixblue said:

 Men renting their bodies for sex are not in love with you.

right , but doesn't mean they may not enjoy sex with their client 

[Phoenixblue]

3 minutes ago, vinapu said:

right , but doesn't mean they may not enjoy sex with their client 

If they didn't enjoy it they wouldn't have done it Or maybe, like people in most jobs, they tolerate it just for getting paid.

[scott456]

1 hour ago, scott456 said:

Or, making it very easy to make a little extra money.  For example,  only sleep no sex, or only blow job, hand job and no anal sex.  Believe it or not, most GP do not enjoy sex with you. It's only work and money for them.

By blow jobs, I meant you suck them.

[pauleiro]

On 12/22/2023 at 5:44 AM, davet said:

1800 for the whole weekend? How long ago was this?

2023

Of course, in addition to what he received, I paid all other expenses ie hotel, restaurants, entertainment

[Novarunner]

6 hours ago, Phoenixblue said:

If they didn't enjoy it they wouldn't have done it Or maybe, like people in most jobs, they tolerate it just for getting paid.

I like some of my clients as well as some of the people I work with and others I tolerate because, yes, I do get paid since it is a job.  My line of work is much different than GP but I still don’t see why that statement wouldn’t hold true here too.

[Phoenixblue]

28 minutes ago, Novarunner said:

I like some of my clients as well as some of the people I work with and others I tolerate because, yes, I do get paid since it is a job.  My line of work is much different than GP but I still don’t see why that statement wouldn’t hold true here too.

You are fortunate to be in a line of work where you actually like some of the people you interact with. This case is not universally true though.

[Novarunner]

1 hour ago, Phoenixblue said:

You are fortunate to be in a line of work where you actually like some of the people you interact with. This case is not universally true though.

Yes, I am fortunate to be in a line of work that I like (most days) and I suppose that sadly you are right, some GPs do it because they are forced to and don’t have a choice but I do want to point out that is just one end of the spectrum.  There is at least some middle ground here were a person - with thoughts and feelings and agency - decides to be a GP and does it on terms he is comfortable with.  For example, my most favorite part of Rio that I mentioned earlier, most definitely does fuck tourists for reias but you will never find him at 202 or 117 (they are “não limpo” according to him, please don’t hate) and he asks new potential clients to verify using snap or video chat before meeting for the first time.  My personal theory about all this is that he likes tall white boys usually with some facial hair (yes, he very much has a type) and figured out at some point that the somewhat older tall white boys are frequently willing to pay him to do something that he doesn’t always necessarily love but certainly doesn’t hate either which is kinda sorta how I feel about my much different job a good deal of the time too.

[scott456]

45 minutes ago, Novarunner said:

  My personal theory about all this is that he likes tall white boys usually with some facial hair (yes, he very much has a type) and figured out at some point that the somewhat older tall white boys are frequently willing to pay him to do something that he doesn’t always necessarily love but certainly doesn’t hate either which is kinda sorta how I feel about my much different job a good deal of the time too.

My personal guess is, he is black or mixed "blackish".

And he is gay (which does not apply to most of the GPs).

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, Novarunner said:

 My line of work is much different than GP but I still don’t see why that statement wouldn’t hold true here too.

Ever watch Sesame Street...??

Sex work is the boot....
 

 

[Novarunner]

21 minutes ago, scott456 said:

My personal guess is, he is black or mixed "blackish".

And he is gay (which does not apply to most of the GPs).

Yup, but really isn’t most of Brazil mixed….?

And also, yup.  Apparently, women using IG to find men is a thing too but he always turns them down.  He told me once that he doesn’t need to try having sex with a cat to know that that isn’t for him which I though was a bit strong considering where new gay boys come from and all but anyway, yes, he is definitely gay.

[Novarunner]

46 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Ever watch Sesame Street...??

Sex work is the boot....
 

 

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree.  On a fundamental level I really do believe that sex work can be a job that someone engages in because they choose to and then has much the same thoughts and feelings about it as any other job they might have chosen.

[scott456]

1 hour ago, Novarunner said:

Yup, but really isn’t most of Brazil mixed….?

That's why I said mixed "blackish", to differentiate from mixed "whitish".  By "mixed blackish", I was referring to someone that looks black, regardless of the mixed.

[Mavica]

3 hours ago, Phoenixblue said:

You are fortunate to be in a line of work where you actually like some of the people you interact with. This case is not universally true though.

Don't like any of those whom we interact with? Au contraire.  The problem is not with them, but with those (of us) who lack the ability to successfully relate to others.  It's universal, for sure.

[floridarob]

4 hours ago, Novarunner said:

 On a fundamental level I really do believe that sex work can be a job that someone engages in because they choose to and then has much the same thoughts and feelings about it as any other job they might have chosen.

Mature yet still so naïve .....The car salesman is really trying to get you the best deal from his boss too  😛

[Riobard]

On 12/27/2023 at 10:42 PM, Mavica said:

Don't like any of those whom we interact with? Au contraire.  The problem is not with them, but with those (of us) who lack the ability to successfully relate to others.  It's universal, for sure.

And don’t you exemplify it? Yes. That among the worst candidates someone would hold themselves out as a role model? …  what a stinking load of hooey. 

[Canadianbtmguy]

On 12/27/2023 at 5:32 PM, scott456 said:

And he is gay (which does not apply to most of the GPs).

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that most of the GPs are straight though (which I would define as not interested in free sex with any other men, no matter how attractive and no matter the situation) Certainly a large contingent (and I think the advent of Viagra was useful to bump up the percentage) but my experiences don't lead me to estimate half. Among the "pure dick plays", those with a huge dick and little else, yes, I could see over 50%. But not the others.

I would say that some, indeed most, enjoy sex with men to some extent (some, not as much as with women, true). And, I would say some, even most, enjoy sex with some clients, even if only a small minority of clients. Last tuesday a remarkably hot guy came into 117 (who I trailed because I wanted to have him first...) and to my shock (and I suppose horror) went to the client lockers (ive seen GPs at Lagoa with a locker in the client room, maybe overflow??) but I confirmed he was a client with that attendant guy (who btw is so much sweeter than that cranky tip-demanding ex-GP at 202)

Later, when I was waiting for a room with a guy that Ive been with a few times before, I asked him if he had seen that superhot client. He said yeah, didn't you see me go upstairs with him? ( I hadn't) He made this sort of swooning look, clearly putting him in the category of the some who enjoy it with some clients some times...

(As a footnote, while I am on the topic of superhot guys one sees in the sauna but who are not available for purchase, the receptionist at 202, who I guess is the owner's son, is so dreamy...)

[davet]

On 1/14/2024 at 4:01 AM, Canadianbtmguy said:

on the topic of superhot guys one sees in the sauna but who are not available for purchase, the receptionist at 202

hmmm

[babybear2]

hmmm, Junior's son is hot, but not that hot in brazil standards 

However, he is very kind and warm, much better than the receptionist at 117 

Of course, everyone has a different taste

[davet]

On 1/14/2024 at 4:01 AM, Canadianbtmguy said:

I would say that some, indeed most, enjoy sex with men to some extent (some, not as much as with women, true). And, I would say some, even most, enjoy sex with some clients, even if only a small minority of clients

I would say that they might not enjoy the sex, but they can still enjoy the job. Many of the guys take pride in the fact that they are working and not selling drugs or panhandling. They take pride in the work of being a stud, and people who take pride often produce better quality work, and get better compensated. They do what everybody does to make work more enjoyable: make friends, make money (good money, in their world), be chill with the customers, be chill with everybody. If you enjoy your job and you enjoy orgasms and you enjoy feeling like a stud, it's going to be hard to untangle all the threads.