Paris is no more

[vinapu]

16 hours ago, caeron said:

16 hours ago, caeron said:

 

A lot of people here actually like brown people (and fucking them).

 

 

yes

[Olddaddy]

23 hours ago, caeron said:

We don't need to perform for you.

We aren't actors in the masturbatory racist fantasy you play in your head. If you go find a racist board, you can have a circle jerk of outrage.

A lot of people here actually like brown people (and fucking them).

 

Is religion a race ?

I think anyone , even  from Tasmania can become muslim

I don't think that's racist though , probably religious phobic which I admit I am 

But the older I get, the less I believe in the " man in the sky ", 

 

[stevenkesslar]

On 7/2/2023 at 1:20 PM, EmmetK said:

these savages behave as one would expect savages to behave, by burning down the country when their hosts do something they don't like

Sorry.  Late to this discussion.  And I won't write a book.

But I am confused.  Which century are we talking about?

Anyhoo, been to Paris and Berlin and Venice and what not, and found all those Europeans very welcoming and civilized.

Except for the part where they tried to eradicate The Jews and The Gays, of course.

But, hey.  Everybody has a bad decade now and then.  😊

[Latbear4blk]

18 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said:

Sorry.  Late to this discussion.  And I won't write a book.

But I am confused.  Which century are we talking about?

Anyhoo, been to Paris and Berlin and Venice and what not, and found all those Europeans very welcoming and civilized.

Except for the part where they tried to eradicate The Jews and The Gays, of course.

But, hey.  Everybody has a bad decade now and then.  😊

Let's not call it Racism, Muslimphobia, or Xenophobia. People are very delicate these times.

They are allergic to Muslims, Immigrants, and People of Color.

[stevenkesslar]

On 7/3/2023 at 4:25 AM, EmmetK said:

I responded with FACTS. Not third grade name calling.

Now there's a thought.  Let's have more of that.  FACTS.

Here's four that matter:

Fact 1:

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The most recent riots began after police shot 17-year-old Nahel Merzouk during a traffic stop in Nanterre, Paris.

Police reported that officers' lives were in danger, however, social media footage of the incident suggests that not to be true.

Fact 2:

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Macron has said: "I would like to express the feelings of the entire nation at what has happened and the death of young Nahel, and to tell his family of our solidarity and the nation's affection.

"We have a teenager who has been killed. It's inexplicable, unforgivable."

Fact 3:

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Nahel's family, along with many others, have called for the riots to calm down and have said some are just using his death as an excuse to riot.

Fact 4, just to add a bit of color, and historical perspective:

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Historically, the loss of Paris always meant the loss of France. The Führer repeats his order that Paris has to be defended. . . . The strongest measures to quell insurrection inside the city must be taken. . . . The bridges across the Seine are to be prepared for demolition. Paris must not fall into enemy hands except as a field of ruins.

Blessed be the peace makers.

By the way, anybody know where Dietrich von Choltitz is these days?  We need somebody with a calm head in a situation like this.   

[stevenkesslar]

On 7/3/2023 at 10:01 AM, caeron said:

You always hope for the one in a thousand who actually wants to understand rather than wallow in their self-righteous rage and sense of superiority.

After that, it's just for the humor value of poking the roaring bear.

Come to think of it, maybe that's why I actually have fun by reading long essays and - ugh! - polls.  It's safer.

But if you find humor value in poking the bear, go ahead and have fun.

Just be careful out there.  There's some real hate going around these days.

And not to ruin the fun or anything.  But if it were me, I'd still want some bad ass like Idris Elba along for the ride.  😉

 

[EmmetK]

17 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

Is religion a race ?

I think anyone , even  from Tasmania can become muslim

I don't think that's racist though...

 

Of course, you are correct. Not surprisingly, the only mention of race in this thread are posts of by the forum's most radical elements. But these radical apologists that sit on the fringe will never condemn the vandals, looters, and arsonists that are destroying their host country. That is against their DNA.  Instead, their answer is to lie, distort, post stupid GIFs, and toss juvenile epithets against those with whom they disagree, making it impossible to engage in an intelligent dialogue.

I proudly stand with the people of France and the French police.

[Olddaddy]

51 minutes ago, EmmetK said:

Of course, you are correct. Not surprisingly, the only mention of race in this thread are posts of by the forum's most radical elements. But these radical apologists that sit on the fringe will never condemn the vandals, looters, and  arsonists that are destroying their host country. That is against their DNA.  Instead, their answer is to lie, distort, post stupid GIFs, and toss juvenile epithets against those with whom they disagree, making it impossible to engage in an intelligent dialogue.

I proudly stand with the people of France and the French police.

Well...if I'm Muslim phobic I admit it.

I don't like that religion or any other religion...I don't care what others think.

I don't have to like anyone , I don't get along with Muslim people unfortunately 

[stevenkesslar]

3 hours ago, EmmetK said:

I proudly stand with the people of France and the French police.

Great.  So does Macron.

Are you saying you agree with him, as he speaks for his nation?  And their solidarity with the Muslim victim's family?

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Macron has said: "I would like to express the feelings of the entire nation at what has happened and the death of young Nahel, and to tell his family of our solidarity and the nation's affection.

"We have a teenager who has been killed. It's inexplicable, unforgivable."

Empathy doesn't seem very radical to me.  

 

[Phoenixblue]

8 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

Well...if I'm Muslim phobic I admit it.

I don't like that religion or any other religion...I don't care what others think.

I don't have to like anyone , I don't get along with Muslim people unfortunately 

Excellent.

Since you are so proudly "Muslim phobic" please don't fly Emirates, Etihad, Qatar Airways or Turkish Airlines. Kindly refrain from having stopovers in Dubai, Doha, Istanbul on your way and don't forget to not visit Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia not to mention Dubai. There are plenty of places where you nurture and grow in hate for muslims, arabs and brown people of all sorts and types. Have fun!

[fedssocr]

France has been segregating people from it's former colonies in ghettos for decades with very little in the way of opportunity for them. And plenty of suppression by the authorities as well.  So it's not a surprise that people with little to lose explode into violence against a state and police apparatus that has been holding them down for so long. This has happened several times.

[Mavica]

44 minutes ago, fedssocr said:

France has been segregating people from it's former colonies in ghettos for decades with very little in the way of opportunity for them. And plenty of suppression by the authorities as well.  So it's not a surprise that people with little to lose explode into violence against a state and police apparatus that has been holding them down for so long. This has happened several times.

Sounds familiar, when we watch reactions to Israel's apartheid.

[Olddaddy]

1 hour ago, Phoenixblue said:

Excellent.

Since you are so proudly "Muslim phobic" please don't fly Emirates, Etihad, Qatar Airways or Turkish Airlines. Kindly refrain from having stopovers in Dubai, Doha, Istanbul on your way and don't forget to not visit Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia not to mention Dubai. There are plenty of places where you nurture and grow in hate for muslims, arabs and brown people of all sorts and types. Have fun!

Unfortunately they hate gays and i saw this recently in Sydney gay pride where they as a massive group assualted and surrounded a young transexual.

They hate gay people as evidence by their protests in Sydney during World gay pride 

I challenge you to walk with a rainbow flag in some areas of Sydney,yeah you won't do it right , I'm sure you will meet some very interesting Muslims 😅

Im not interested in their homophobic beliefs

[Phoenixblue]

42 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

Unfortunately they hate gays and i saw this recently in Sydney gay pride where they as a massive group assualted and surrounded a young transexual.

They hate gay people as evidence by their protests in Sydney during World gay pride 

I challenge you to walk with a rainbow flag in some areas of Sydney,yeah you won't do it right , I'm sure you will meet some very interesting Muslims 😅

Im not interested in their homophobic beliefs

Oh I believe you and what better way to demonstrate that than by looking at Muslim fanatic Ron DeSantis.

In any case I was merely trying to help you out by giving you tips on how to avoid interacting with muslims or other brown third world savages by avoiding traveling through their airlines or stopping in their countries. 

[Olddaddy]

7 minutes ago, Phoenixblue said:

Oh I believe you and what better way to demonstrate that than by looking at Muslim fanatic Ron DeSantis.

In any case I was merely trying to help you out by giving you tips on how to avoid interacting with muslims or other brown third world savages by avoiding traveling through their airlines or stopping in their countries. 

You don't need to give me tips ,I mix with the lower class ones everyday or should I say night being a night shift worker ,they have nothing but hatred and disdain for gay people 

Oh I try  avoid them in everyday life ,not interested in their hatred or beliefs ,and that goes for all religions.

I'm a realist I see these people in Sydney and know many are hypocrites.

 

[Phoenixblue]

2 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

Oh I try  avoid them in everyday life ,not interested in their hatred or beliefs 

Well done! Being in the prime of your youth 💪 I'm sure you're having the time of your life avoiding those savages

[Olddaddy]

15 minutes ago, Phoenixblue said:

Well done! Being in the prime of your youth 💪 I'm sure you're having the time of your life avoiding those savages

Yes I avoid certain types of people and nationalities.

I avoid Aussie low class bogans that's why I don't go to Bali, I don't want to mix with the Aussie tattooed swearing low class , 

I also fly business class so I don't mix with anyone I don't like 

Last week I also crossed over the street when I saw 2 guys of a certain nationality walking towards me ,it's called being a realist ,maybe you should get out more at night time particularly on weekend nights to see the real world 

Maybe you live a sheltered life?it's even possible and I'm not being personal this relates to everyone,but you avoid "reality" to cope with life and want to think it's a "perfect" world ,I guess it can be a coping skill,

The problem with that is if I threw you in the deep end and made you walk the streets on weekend nights you would run to a corner and hide because you have done nothing but you use "avoidance" to cope 

I'm not saying your "weak" but if I was hazard a guess you never been in real life situations eg physical fights or been physically threatened so your mind tells you it's a perfect world and something as people swearing near you will easily upset you as your not used to that kind of world ,you have avoided it so your a person who becomes easily fazed and hurt .

If someone walked past you and said " you f...g dog Cxnt !

You would easily become hurt and that would be on your mind continually because you are not used to these interactions because you use avoidance and are not a realist so small things about people like that would affect you ., I feel empathy for you in a way because of your sheltered life 💚

 

[Phoenixblue]

2 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

Last week I also crossed over the street when I saw 2 guys of a certain nationality walking towards me ,it's called being a realist 

Out of curiosity, where they Chinese or Asian by any chance?

[Phoenixblue]

1 hour ago, Olddaddy said:

Maybe you live a sheltered life?it's even possible and I'm not being personal this relates to everyone,but you avoid "reality" to cope with life and want to think it's a "perfect" world ,I guess it can be a coping skill,

The problem with that is if I threw you in the deep end and made you walk the streets on weekend nights you would run to a corner and hide because you have done nothing but you use "avoidance" to cope 

What does living in a sheltered life have to do with this all. I honestly am trying very hard to understand your logic.

You said that Muslims are homophobes and that they are dangerous to run into at night, so please help me understand; would you be afraid to walk in say, Dubai or Istanbul or Kuala Lumpur as a Gay man or a tourist?

If that were the case then it would be sensible to warn others about traveling to North Africa or the Middle East since they would be, in your opinion, taking a risk?

[Olddaddy]

18 minutes ago, Phoenixblue said:

Out of curiosity, where they Chinese or Asian by any chance?

 They would be the very  least I would be concerned about same with people of a indian nationality low risk ,no they were of another nationality, 2 guys walking towards me on the street  1am,  I have good awareness skills I saw them ahead ,both frayed hair looking directly at me ,youngish, I immediately crossed the road ,I don't give a fuck if that's racist or not ,I done a risk assessment 

As for yourself don't blame yourself,it's the way you were brought up and I hazard a guess you have a job as a professor or something where you haven't seen real life as such or been in real life situations as I said above.

I have empathy for you 

 

 

[Phoenixblue]

39 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

 They would be the very  least I would be concerned about same with people of a indian nationality,no they were of another nationality.

As for yourself don't blame yourself,it's the way you were brought up and I hazard a guess you have a job as a professor or something where you haven't seen real life as such or been in real life situations as I said above.

I have empathy for you 

 

 

Thank you for your empathy.

[Phoenixblue]

42 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

 They would be the very  least I would be concerned about same with people of a indian nationality,no they were of another nationality.

As for yourself don't blame yourself,it's the way you were brought up and I hazard a guess you have a job as a professor or something where you haven't seen real life as such or been in real life situations as I said above.

I have empathy for you 

 

 

Do we need to draw up a list of all undesirable, unwanted and dangerous groups of peoples based on nationalities?

I,personally, do not think any particular group of people as a collective whether it's by nationality or race or faith or whatever singular factor to be inherently "bad." This sort of generalization is unscientific and counter intuitive. I would rather put emphasis on myself to strive to be a better person, God knows there's plenty of messed up people on this planet and I don't want to be part of that.

 

[Olddaddy]

But ....I have been ruminating over this .even though I told you not to , being a realist I get over things immediately..but this I'm still thinking it  over...and proud 😂

anyone can figure it out..

Yesterday I was walking thru soi 5 jomtien when I sighted some Durian over the road so I immediately started to cross..in front of a motorcycle.. suddenly a tattooed no helmet wearing farang blasted his horn and shouted out "  fucking COCKSUCKER !!!! 

Now I could of shouted back ..I could of tried to run after him...but instead I laughed 😂 ....I want to know how he knew I was a big COCKSUCKER !! 😅😂

Now "phoenixblue" that would of affected you wouldn't it , you would of been ruminating over it , distressed that you were called a cocksucker  I was proud that the farang recognised me as a cock sucker and last night I sucked 4 cocks in a go go bar to live up to my name !!

! 😂

[stevenkesslar]

6 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

Now "phoenixblue" that would of affected you wouldn't it , you would of been ruminating over it , distressed that you were called a cocksucker  I was proud that the farang recognised me as a cock sucker and last night I sucked 4 cocks in a go go bar to live up to my name !!

Good for you.  Glad you made the best of it!

Can we have a long talk about prejudice, deep canvassing, and deep cock sucking?

The number of assumptions you are making about people you are admitting you don't know is amazing.  I'm referring specifically to @Phoenixblue.  But also generally to all Muslims, aka "The Savages."  Or, The Gay Haters, if you prefer.

@Phoenixblue beat me to the punch.  But it is worth nothing that Christina Pushaw stood up for her little bitch Ron D on the issue of homophobia.  The Log Cabin Republicans said Ron's recent homophobic ad was ............ well ............ homophobic.  Christina stood up for her little pouty bitch and said Gay Pride is "unnecessary, divisive, and pandering."  One could therefore assume all White conservatives are bigots who hate The Gays.  And feel The Gays just create unnecessary misery wherever they go.  But thank you for a helpful idea.  Once our Top Homophobic Guv completes discrediting himself, and neither the voters of the US nor the voters of Florida will have him anymore, we can send Ron off to Sydney.  And all will be well.  You can have Pushaw, too.  She loves to make assumptions.

In fairness, this is actually a struggle The Gays in the US are grappling with.  It is easy enough to assume that any White conservative who votes for Ron, or supports Don't Say Gay, or votes against same sex marriage, is a bigot who hates The Gays.  Not true.  At the risk of sounding repetitive and moralizing - which we all know I am - I will repost the hyperlink of Dave Fleischer I posted in another thread.  About what he calls deep canvassing.  What we know, for a fact, is that one excellent way to break down prejudice is to speak with the people you feel prejudice toward.  Or who feel prejudice toward you.  That is how we won same-sex marriage in the US.  People in Ireland, including their current PM, literally walked door to door and spoke with the people who may have had prejudiced ideas about The Gays.  That is precisely why they have same sex marriage today.  As well as a Gay PM.  Try it.

Of course, you probably should not be starting conversations with rude people who yell "fucking COCKSUCKER" at you.  That said, if we're being blunt, I can tell you from actual personal experience that sucking a Muslim cock, or fucking a hot Muslim guy, is an effective way to break down prejudices.  Try it.  Almost by definition, if you are sucking a Muslim cock, the guy it is attached to does not hate The Gays.  In all honesty, though, whether as an escort or fuck buddy or what not, I did not suck Muslim cocks to increase diversity.  Or to advance some liberal agenda.  I did it to have fun, and to cum.  Try it.  After all, you clearly are a cock sucker.

Now I will make an assumption.  Which is that for a guy like you sucking a Muslim cock may be a bridge too far.  So since you like anecdotes, and being outdoors, I'll scale this back.  I grew up in an overwhelmingly White suburb of Chicago.  The first time I actually lived in the city was during a college "urban studies" program.  The first day I arrived at my apartment my two White roommates and I went on a very long walk for miles to see Chicago neighborhoods.  At one point a Black woman stopped us, and asked us if we knew where we were.  We said "no."  But by that point we were looking for an "el" rapid transit stop to get home.  She said turn around, walk the other way, turn left or right at the corner, and in three or four blocks you'll see an "el" station. 

What we later figured out is that we were right about to walk into the middle of Cabrini Green, a notoriously unsafe and predominantly minority public housing project.  For some reason, some Black woman felt like she wanted to protect us.  Bless her heart.  I've had multiple experiences like that in Chicago, all in Black neighborhoods.  I was never attacked, or robbed.  But several times friendly Black strangers approached me to make sure that, as the only White guy around, I knew where I was and I knew what I was doing.

The only time I have been physically assaulted by a stranger was while I was a volunteer campaigning for Harold Washington, Chicago's first Black Mayor.  I was at an "el" step in a White neighborhood handing out flyers for Harold. Some White guy shoved me and knocked the flyers out of my hand.  The more memorable moment, which happened at the same place, was the kind looking White woman who walked up to me and whispered in my ear, "You are a traitor to your race."

Not sure what exactly I did wrong.  I know for sure  I had not actually sucked a Black cock yet.  That came later.   😉

This is of course the same Chicago where record numbers of murders happened in 2020, while Trump was President and America went on a gun buying spree.  Overwhelmingly, the victims were Black men between 18 and 45.  Just out of curiosity, I checked.  There were 695 homicides in Chicago in 2022, which is the lowest of the three years since COVID started.  So far in 2023 they are down another 10 % or so.  By comparison, there were 377 homicides in all of Australia last year.  I would suggest that is probably not about The Blacks, or The Muslims.  It's probably about the far more sensible gun control laws in Australia.  At least, that's what the Black former cop Mayor of New York says.  While the homicide rate in New York is way lower than Chicago, he says the huge challenge there now is the "rivers" of illegal guns flowing through gangs into low-income neighborhoods.

I know I've taken a trip around the world.  But so have you.  We're talking about violence in Paris.  And your attitudes about Muslims in Australia.  And the prejudices that these outcries - like "savages" - are built on.   No one is defending rioters, past or present, of any race,  in Paris.  The relatives of the slain Muslim child are calling for an end to the violence.

I hope you go talk to some Muslims.  Maybe even suck a Muslim cock or two.  You sound like you're good at it.  So you at least don't have to worry about those Muslims hating you for doing it.  Have fun.

[Latbear4blk]

How did we not think of it??? We are Realists.