Popular Post PeterRS Posted July 2, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 2, 2023 The UK newspapers are full of photos and comments on yesterday's Pride Parade. It certainly seems to have been a fun event. Many comment that as many as 30,000 took part. 30,000? How is it that London has such a small number when Taipei has around 200,000 and gets little mention in the UK newspapers? Photo: Reuters Photo: AFP via Getty Images Photo: Press Association Lucky, TotallyOz, reader and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Members Lucky Posted July 2, 2023 Members Posted July 2, 2023 I was in London once and discovered it was Gay Pride Day, so went to see the parade and loved it! TotallyOz and Ruthrieston 2 Quote
Popular Post KhorTose Posted July 2, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 2, 2023 Seattle's Pride parade drew 300,000 people. One of the largest turnouts I've seen in 33 years. Olddaddy, TotallyOz, vinapu and 3 others 5 1 Quote
khaolakguy Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 15 hours ago, PeterRS said: The UK newspapers are full of photos and comments on yesterday's Pride Parade. It certainly seems to have been a fun event. Many comment that as many as 30,000 took part. 30,000? How is it that London has such a small number when Taipei has around 200,000 and gets little mention in the UK newspapers? Depends how you define "taking part". According to the BBC more than a million people took to the streets to celebrate Pride which seems a significant and proportionate number. The 30,000 you refer to is actual participants in the official "procession of floats, performers and dancers". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66074940 Ruthrieston 1 Quote
forky123 Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 Why would Taipei's pride festival get mentioned in UK newspapers? Quote
Members Lucky Posted July 2, 2023 Members Posted July 2, 2023 3 hours ago, forky123 said: Why would Taipei's pride festival get mentioned in UK newspapers? Because it could be their last Pride parade before China invades? Quote
PeterRS Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 6 hours ago, forky123 said: Why would Taipei's pride festival get mentioned in UK newspapers? You can also ask: why would London's Pride Parade be mentioned in Thai newspapers? 7 hours ago, khaolakguy said: Depends how you define "taking part". According to the BBC more than a million people took to the streets to celebrate Pride which seems a significant and proportionate number. The 30,000 you refer to is actual participants in the official "procession of floats, performers and dancers". Agree. On the other hand, Taipei's Parade number reflects only the marchers and does not mention the hundreds of thousands watching along the Parade route, many visitors. I do think the Parade itself is the most important element. If there were no Parade participants, there would be no watchers! Ruthrieston 1 Quote
forky123 Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 4 hours ago, PeterRS said: You can also ask: why would London's Pride Parade be mentioned in Thai newspapers? I never would ask that, I wouldn't expect it to be & wouldn't find it noteworthy if it wasn't. Quote
forky123 Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Lucky said: Because it could be their last Pride parade before China invades? You could literally write that every year until it happens. vinapu 1 Quote
PeterRS Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, forky123 said: Why would Taipei's pride festival get mentioned in UK newspapers? I never would ask that, I wouldn't expect it to be & wouldn't find it noteworthy if it wasn't. So I wonder why you think London's Pride Parade is worthy of mention in any South East Asian newspaper? I may have missed it but I don't recall Sydney's Pride Parade being mentioned in the Bangkok Post this year. forky123 1 Quote
forky123 Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 What I said: What you claimed I said: It's not a quote when you take the answer to one question and put it to a completely different question to make it seem I said something other than I did. In future, paste accurate quotes and not your fabrications. It's quite obvious from my previous posts, fake quotes from you aside, that I don't believe either are newsworthy in the others domain. Quote
forky123 Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Not newspapers but articles from the BBC on Taiwan's pride festival this year and in previous years: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41788869 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37811442 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-50193936 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53212693 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-50193431 Quote
hojacat Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 it was a very fun event. The parade stretched from Hyde Park to Trafalgar square. Lots of eyes candies among the people parading and the spectators. There was no one fully or partly naked though, so in a way Taipei pride is more transgressive than the London one. Hard to give an estimate of the audience as people would just look for a while and then go their way. Definitely more than 30K people. Enjoyed the after party events. Quote
PeterRS Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, forky123 said: It's not a quote when you take the answer to one question and put it to a completely different question to make it seem I said something other than I did. In future, paste accurate quotes and not your fabrications. Apologies! Yes, I took one quote and responded to it. I then thought it useful (to some, perhaps) to edit and add part of your second quote. Unfortunately, it is less easy to add in a second original quote, so I merely added the extra sentence. I did not mean to upset you or imply something you did not say. I acknowledge you made two separate statements. Quote
vinapu Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, hojacat said: . There was no one fully or partly naked though, not that I mind but I wonder what kind of statement about gays and gay life are trying to drive those who would be parading naked alvnv 1 Quote
hojacat Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Some pics from the event: vinapu, PeterRS and Ruthrieston 3 Quote
hojacat Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 6 hours ago, vinapu said: not that I mind but I wonder what kind of statement about gays and gay life are trying to drive those who would be parading naked What kind of statement they trying to make? No idea. I would never do it, so can't really imagine what's going on someone's mind that they decide to go out naked on the streets. I would also be a liar If I say that I wouldn't like watching if that person going around naked is a young smooth twink, preferably Asian. Quote
vinapu Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 I'm not shy or prude but if we want to be treated as part of mainstream we should behave and present ourselves like that part. And parading naked is not (yet?) part of mainstream. Sure I'm for exception for fit , smooth young Asians but reality is , at least in overweight and hairy Western world we can't hope much for such esthetics alvnv 1 Quote
hojacat Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, vinapu said: I'm not shy or prude but if we want to be treated as part of mainstream we should behave and present ourselves like that part. And parading naked is not (yet?) part of mainstream. Sure I'm for exception for fit , smooth young Asians but reality is , at least in overweight and hairy Western world we can't hope much for such esthetics Well, maybe it's pointless going around naked at SF, NYC, Berlin or Madrid pride cause even if you do it another another day, people won't really get shocked and you wouldn't be much intro trouble anyway. however, I think it's different for Taipei pride. As the Latins used to say: semel in anno licet insanire ("once in a year one is allowed to go crazy") and for the gay population of the biggest continent that place and that day is Taipei pride. It's the day when guys can do stuff, even the wildest one, without having to worry about what others think or being punished for it. Many of my friends in other Asian countries get surprised from the pics I show them of Taipei pride. It's pretty much a relief valve and me and some other people in this forum are happy spectators of it PeterRS and vinapu 1 1 Quote
PeterRS Posted July 4, 2023 Author Posted July 4, 2023 5 hours ago, hojacat said: It's pretty much a relief valve and me and some other people in this forum are happy spectators of it Both spectators and marchers! But let's be clear that there is no full nudity in the Taipei Pride Parade - at least not that I have ever seen in the many Parades in which I have taken part. A small number of young and fit guys wearing their latest skimpy swimwear are often to be seen. But then the weather at the end of October will almost aways be very warm so that marching in briefs must be very pleasant. Quote
thaiophilus Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 16 hours ago, hojacat said: What kind of statement they trying to make? No idea. I would never do it, so can't really imagine what's going on someone's mind that they decide to go out naked on the streets. Search for "world naked bike ride" in a city near you. According to their wiki: "The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against car culture." Quote
vinapu Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, thaiophilus said: Search for "world naked bike ride" in a city near you. According to their wiki: "The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against car culture." shortly we will hear that walking dressed on the beach is protest against global warming. alvnv 1 Quote
hojacat Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 On 7/3/2023 at 7:46 PM, PeterRS said: Both spectators and marchers! But let's be clear that there is no full nudity in the Taipei Pride Parade - at least not that I have ever seen in the many Parades in which I have taken part. A small number of young and fit guys wearing their latest skimpy swimwear are often to be seen. But then the weather at the end of October will almost aways be very warm so that marching in briefs must be very pleasant. Well, I actually saw once a few years ago a guy going fully naked at Taipei pride. I have a posted a pic of him in another post under the "Taiwan" topic. Beside guys wearing mini swimwear, in the 2019 parade saw also quite a few guys wearing open butt pants, something similar to: https://www.ebay.com/itm/353618185001 Quote
PeterRS Posted July 5, 2023 Author Posted July 5, 2023 I have a few pics of near naked guys at the Taipei Parades I have joined. For those not acquainted with gay life in Beijing, Destination is the hottest gay club in the city. I suppose this guy should be regarded as clothed - with balloons! vinapu, Mavica, Ruthrieston and 1 other 4 Quote
hojacat Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 7 hours ago, PeterRS said: This one is totally adorable. Here is the naked guy I was referring to. He definitely got lots of attention. Some other pics also of guys you can say are partly naked. (Sorry for the quality of some of the pics). vinapu and Ruthrieston 2 Quote
