Olddaddy Posted July 5, 2023 Author Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, TotallyOz said: To be clear, I would rarely offer someone 3500. I do usually not go above 2k in Bangkok for short time. The same is true for my 2 guys. I always separate things. They ask for 2k. I give them that 2k. I then give them 1k afterwards and tell them that is for them to buy a present. Then, I give 500 and tell them that is for a taxi. Yes, I know in the end it is the same, but I always like to be clear and would not agree to 3500 up front for most. I also consider this saving money. When I go to the gay bars I usually go to three or four to find what I want. By the time I buy drinks for me and sometimes a boy or waiter, find a boy and pay his off and then his tip, I have now spent 6-8k for something that might be good. I know 100% of the time the two lads I see on a regular are going to be good each time. I have one lad who works at a dentist office nearby me who asks for 1500. I pay him that plus 500 baht tip. He is average sex but sweet and comes after his office closes. I will also see him anytime he needs money as he normally is not working for money and on the apps but only to hookup. When he needs, he asks. Are you looking for any new friends 😉 Quote
TotallyOz Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, Olddaddy said: Are you looking for any new friends 😉 LOL. Always. But, under 35. I have places to go, people to see, and things to do. I would like to say I need them to be able to keep up with me. But, truth is, I need them to push me to barely keep up with them. On a recent trip to Dubai with a few Thai friends, I just sent them out to do touristy things on their own a lot. I find I enjoy less travel the older I get. I took a trip back to USA over Xmas last year and it exhausted me. Now, I like to stay close to Thailand and that saves me money as well. The cost for a business class ticket to USA right now is over 200,000 baht. I use to make that trip 2x per year. I don't like it anymore and save it for when needed for family only and not just visiting or to eat Christmas dinner. floridarob and Ruthrieston 2 Quote
vinapu Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 4 hours ago, TotallyOz said: I may be in the minority, but I do think the rate does have correlation to better performance. not necessarily minority. I will agree with you , specially 2nd and subsequent meetings seem to be better and better, I guess because they know what they get. But after a while , specially when offs are quite frequent I noticed complacency is setting in. Best cure for that seems to show up in their bar or massage but engage somebody else. Kind of gets message across. I for one am not shy to tell them nicely and politely but straight forward what I did not like last time. But I'm believer in giving 2nd chance so often I do tell them on subsequent off what I did not like previously. Doesn't matter how much people will extoll virtues of economizing and keeping boy's tips on short leash I know one thing for fact after the trip I remember well paid or overpaid encounters much better than those where I went with minimum. So I think I will continue to spoil boys and market but that works for me. On another hand when I sniff any possibility he is taking me for granted, offs will stop and I will tell him why. For me biggest sin is bit odd but I hate it the most - when guy agrees for a time, whatever it is, and it's trying to leave or finish session earlier. Even if body is godly and performance brilliant for me he is dead for a while at least. dscrtsldnbi, Ruthrieston, TotallyOz and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post PeterRS Posted July 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2023 On 6/27/2023 at 9:57 AM, Olddaddy said: I want to know if any of you have luck meeting guys for sex paid or otherwise in shopping centres, retail stores ,bellboys ,security guards , drivers , etc etc for sex in Thailand! Funny thing is I have never done this in Thailand, even in the 'old' days (well, my old days!)! But I have met money guys in shopping malls in Manila (decades ago), and others not seeking any money more recently in Tokyo, Hong Kong, Taipei, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Melbourne. Gaydar is a remarkable attribute, along with a nice smile and a few words of the local language! I know that hotel staff are not permitted into guests' rooms unless for room service and cleaning. In SIngapore at the 5-star Pan Pacific hotel I once had one cute young guy take toom service a little beyond what I expected. He had brought my breakfast and I thought him especially gorgeous. I was in my bath robe and made sure there was plenty of eye contact. As he was leaving, he said he was going off shift in 30 minutes, Would I like him to come back? Now, that could have meant to collect the room service trolley. But I think we both realised it was more than that. Sure enough, we ended up with 30 minutes of unexpected but very enjoyable sex! I would have loved that to happen in quite a few of the hotels I have stayed in since then. Alas it was a one time wonder! Boy69, floridarob, dscrtsldnbi and 3 others 6 Quote
vinapu Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, PeterRS said: Sure enough, we ended up with 30 minutes of unexpected but very enjoyable sex! in such rush I gather you forgot to show him your stamp collection TotallyOz, floridarob, Ruthrieston and 1 other 4 Quote
PeterRS Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, vinapu said: in such rush I gather you forgot to show him your stamp collection Darn it! I knew I had forgotten something! 🤯 dscrtsldnbi, TotallyOz, floridarob and 1 other 1 3 Quote
reader Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 I constantly find myself scanning the passing guys on sidewalks of Silom. If one catches my eye I just smile and look back after a few seconds. Certainly no guarantee but it doesn’t cost anything and occasionally I’ll get a hit because the Silom-Surawong rectangle is a target rich environment. We talk a lot about looking for smiles from others but it’s actually a reciprocal opportunity. TotallyOz, Ruthrieston and PeterRS 3 Quote
Popular Post Shonen Posted July 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2023 I’m 100% successful so far on getting sex away from the gay bars. However it was only once. An Uber driver picked me up just outside of jomtien complex. It was about three am and he was asking what bar is open so late. I told him a gay bar and propositioned him right there. Had sex in his car but he smelled of gasoline. khaolakguy, reader, Mavica and 3 others 3 3 Quote
Travellerdave Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 On 6/27/2023 at 3:57 AM, Olddaddy said: I want to know if any of you have luck meeting guys for sex paid or otherwise in shopping centres, retail stores ,bellboys ,security guards , drivers , etc etc for sex in Thailand! Taking Olddaddy’s definition of meeting guys, I’ve racked my brains for a contribution to this enjoyable thread. i have mentioned already encounters with boys on the gay beach years ago which sometimes lead to playing with their cocks in the waves and once or twice an hour or so in bed with them back at the hotel. I was beach fit in those days and very horny when beach boys were in the vicinity and had no inhibitions about approaching them despite failures. Much more recently, perhaps 5 years ago, I remember trying to pick up a boy from the street. Whilst staying at the Ambiance I had walked down around midday to Tukcom with vague ideas about buying a cheap phone, but first decided on a latte coffee whilst sitting outside from where you can view people passing on the footpath below. Of course my viewing was directed towards passing boys, many of which live in the vicinity. I tried a few times to smile or give a little wave to several attractive ones with zero response, until one shouted something to me but carried on past. It took me a couple of minutes to recall who he was - a boy from Cupidol Gogo whom I had bought a drink a couple of evenings previous, without offing. At that point I gave up and wandered around until going for a massage. That evening I went to Cupidol where the boy was available for me to off. I asked him later in bed, why he had not joined me that morning - his reply was something like “bar not like “. I don’t think this really meets Olddaddy’s definition but it adds to this enjoyable thread. Mavica, Olddaddy, PeterRS and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post ChristianPFC Posted July 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2023 21 hours ago, TotallyOz said: Last example, in LA once, I met a Japanese lad from Craig's List and he was not good at all. But, I still gave him more than he asked for. He said he hoped to see me again and I told him he was sexy but the sex was not good so it would be a pass for me. He said, you see me again, and I promise it will be amazing. I did and he was. I saw him weekly for the time I was in LA (over 6 months). I met a few boys who had great bodies, but poor performance. Some of them I met again, based on body, but performance didn't get better. I think I never overpaid. There was one guy in Pattaya who was, and still is, great in bed. On first encounter, great body, great performance, my happiness about this find, I gave him 1500 which is the highest I ever paid in Pattaya as far as I remember. He just stuck out in all aspect over everyone else I had met for a long time, I had to give a bonus over the usual 1000 I pay for short time. Other regulars, 1000 for ST, get a bonus of 500 after several encounters. Digressing, back to propositioning boys on the streets. I found that performance in inverse to effort I put in. I remember two who were quick to come to my room and enjoyable and I met them again. I remember three who I had to approach several times over weeks or months to finally get them to my room, useless in bed and I didn't see them again. Starts with boy reluctant to take off his clothes, "shirt up, pants down" is not my style; I want full nudity (with sexy underwear as foreplay) and my hands and lips all over his body and as much skin contact as possible. Ruthrieston, vinapu, Travellerdave and 2 others 5 Quote
reader Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 On 7/4/2023 at 4:42 PM, ChristianPFC said: Either not interested or unreasonable expectations (e.g. 3000; I would offer 500, these are low-class…. Could you please define “low class,” Christian? Quote
ChristianPFC Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 No English (all communication in Thai) and working menial jobs, as far as I can judge. Limited world view (just their neighborhood). Which does not prevent attitude and unreasonable expectations. Quote
reader Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Thank you. Unlike yourself, many members here speak no Thai. I hope our Thai friends don’t consider us low class because of it. floridarob and alvnv 2 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted July 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, ChristianPFC said: and working menial jobs, I can't agree less. I grew up in building where local hero was cheap prostitute who pulled neighbour's children from the apartment fire. It was funny and at the same time moving when she was walking drunk and pillars of community like doctors, lawyers and professors (I'm coming from egalitarian place as you know ) were taking their hats, making her place on the sidewalk and saying ' good morning Mrs. Mop". People may be low class because their behavior but not because work they do, language they speak and education they completed. Ruthrieston, 10tazione, khaolakguy and 3 others 5 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Better to use rough guys expression than "low class" . Less controversial. Quote
ChristianPFC Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 "rough guys" is something else and not what I meant. What I meant is better translated (from German "Unterschicht") as "lower class". Olddaddy 1 Quote
Olddaddy Posted July 8, 2023 Author Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, ChristianPFC said: "rough guys" is something else and not what I meant. What I meant is better translated (from German "Unterschicht") as "lower class". We have a term in Australia "Bogans " 😅 Quote