vinapu Posted June 26, 2023 Posted June 26, 2023 4 hours ago, nikba2515 said: Definitely this guy, good height, weight , nice body and pretty face. and kissy lips Quote
ChristianPFC Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 I have been there several times, and will go again. But beware that far more boys are advertised than are available. On their blog, I spotted several I would be interested in, but have never seen on tap when I was there or even in their daily messages on Line about boys available today. Some people might settle for second choice, but I left a few times the two or three boys I like were not in. On 6/16/2023 at 6:54 PM, vinapu said: why? what makes you think that it may not work for you even if did not work for reader ? I freely share my positive and negative experiences with service providers. I believe a negative experience is more reproducible than a positive experience. And there are some peculiarities that might be of interest to others. E.g. I once had a boy in Winner bar sitting with me who was ticklish. Wouldn't work with me. Fortunately this is very rare (ticklish boys). At 15M massage I had one boy Mueang with average cock and difficulty to get it up, but excelled in other areas and I would like to meet him again, but he left. Another boy (Nueng with neck tattoo) at 15M massage was big cock and hard after a few strokes, but poor performances otherwise and I wouldn't meet him again. TMax, vinapu and Ruthrieston 3 Quote
Deszz24 Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 12:09 PM, reader said: This shop is associated with 27M shop, also near Saphan Kwai BTS. It’s very easy to reach. Take exit 3 and when you get to bottom of stairs walk less than 50 feet and turn left after passing 7-Eleven. Shop is on your right down short alley. Reception is on second floor and rooms on third and fourth (all stairs easily negotiable). My first impression was that it was very clean and well maintained. I arrived without advance booking. Although they have scores of guys on website, I was shown only about 15 on a phone. Among them was one I’ve had my eye on for past few trips because he also appears on offerings of three other shops in area but was never available. Consequently I chose him. One hour oil 400. Manager said he’d arrive in 10 minutes and led me to room and invited me to shower down the hall. Room was typical of area with mattress pad on floor and a security box with key for valuables. After shower I waited another 5 minutes before he announced himself. He proceeded to take long shower and we eventually began massage about 25 minutes after my arrival. He began with towel wrapped around him and spent an inordinate amount of time on feet and legs. I finally told him to move on to my back. It’s been my experience that massages that concentrate on legs too long frequently prove less satisfying. Found myself beginning to lose interest. His technique was ok but the whole thing lacked any eroticism. The chemistry (for lack of better expression) was missing. I rolled over at this point, thanked him for massage and began to get up. It then struck him that we were less than half an hour into massage and it was coming to and an end. He reached for phone and rapidly began asking standard questions as the towel dropped away. Afters we’re offered but the moment had passed for me and I declined (only second time since precovid). He was pleasant enough fellow and we spent another five minutes with translated q and a. Then we showered together. Minimum tip 800 and I gave him 1,000. Never tip less than that unless guy is total disaster. Overall I recommend the shop. The less than satisfying massage can happen occasionally anywhere but fortunately they’re rare. it was only shop I can recall that offered neither tea or water to customer. https://15and27massure.blogspot.com/2023/04/15-massage.html Had similar experience when I visited them on Sunday. Booked my appointment with a guy via Line and was confirmed within 5 mins. Took a ride there and that stretch of road was under construction with rubble and sand. The shop was on the right side of soi 27 and I believe there is a barber shop beside it (not sure if they are related). Paid 500 baht for the oil massage (not sure why I paid a 100 baht more lol) and was ushered upstairs to a room. Counter guy didn't ask me if I wanted a shower but it was okay since I showered before leaving the hotel. The boy came around 10 minutes later and asked to shower. The massage was pretty non-existent. He was just rubbing my back, my arms, then my thighs and calves lol. Asked a couple of simple questions like his nationality and age and could only make out that he is from Laos. He didn't get the question about the age though. Was asked to turn over after 30 minutes into the massage and question was popped. Had to watch a straight video on his mobile to get hard. Not that I'm concerned because I have met several straight guys who needed straight porn to turn them on. After all the action, he just wrapped a towel around him and left the room to go shower while I was cleaning myself up lol. Purely business. I would just assume there was no chemistry between this us. Tipped him 1000 as quoted. Was offered a drink by the boy when I was waiting for my ride. BL8gPt, reader, floridarob and 1 other 4 Quote
mixskin Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 I had a very bad experience at 15M last night. It started well as the booking rocess via line was quick and easy. I wanted a guy called Guitar but he was not available so I chose a guy called Mai ( straight/ S56 ). I arrived on time at 9:30 and the guys at reception were nice and friendly enough..the place looks clean too but that's the only positive things about this place. So I was introduced to this guy called Mai, who took me to a room. He looks different from the picture .. less good looking and not as fit. I was already disappointed but I thought I'd give him a chance . The room was small with a mattress in the floor. The shower room is separate so I went out to shower . When I got back to the room it was 9:40 et the guy started the so-called massage. He was the worse massage guy I had ever experienced in Thailand. No skills whatsoever. After 10 minutes of dry "massage" et started to put some oil. After 2 minutes he was already touching and teasing my private part.. I was not aroused at all so he kept now and then touching my private part to see if I'd get hard... But I didn't .. there was not chemistry and nothing erotic or sensual in his massage. 20 minutes into the "massage" he asked me to turn around face up... I was a bit surprised... But I turned around. Straight away he was massaging my 🍆. But I was not impressed so I couldn't get a hard on. I touched his dick ( I hadn't seen/ touched it until then) and was disappointed to see that it was not big as I expected ( he is supposed to be a S56). He also had a big lump on his dick which kind of put me off a bit. Fully hard his dick was about 5" .. 😞. He asked me ( in signs..as his English was poor) if I wanted to be a bttm. I felt I couldn't say no so I went for it without any excitement. I knew I had to pay him anyway so I thought I might as well get something out if it. The sex was very bad .. he only pretended to make big grunts. He even pretended that he was gonna come after 5 minutes so I also pretended to come . So after 30 minutes it was done. Crap map massage, crap sex. After showering, I got back to the room to give him the money . His minimum tip was 800 for 1 hour. I still have him 1000 despite the bad experience. Guess what ? ..he wanted more ! I felt a bit intimidated so I grabbed another 100 baht and gave it to him . I quickly walked off down the stairs . I could hear him talking and laughing with some other staff . I felt humiliated. I messaged them on line id to complain about my experience but they just said that they will talk to their staff. I will never go back to 15M . I wouldn't recommend Mai. Avoid him at all cost . 15M should train their staff properly. llz, reader and BL8gPt 2 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 I was never a big fan of sex massage parlours and rarely visit such places , if I want sex massage I prefer to find someone on the apps and doing it in my room it's more convenient and much cheaper, if I want professional massage I go to legitimate parlours. my personal impression : 1. Most of the boys presents on their websites are good looking models who don't actually work there at all and are just a fake cover to attract potential customers. 2. The pictures of the guys who actually working there are heavily photoshop to artificially make them more attractive then they really are. 3. The description of the guys not always in line with reality and often exaggerated. 4. Many guys working there have very limited or non skills in doing proper massage and only concertrate to manipulate you in 'happy ending' to extract as more money as they can from the clients. 4. Most of the working guys are straight. 5. Most of the masseuses have very limited English or non , it's very difficult to communicate with them. 6. The rates are over priced. splinter1949, Shonen, Lucky and 1 other 4 Quote
floridarob Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 3 hours ago, mixskin said: I still have him 1000 despite the bad experience. Guess what ? ..he wanted more ! I don't buy into this practice of paying, never mind giving more and believe is fosters more experiences like this, because what did he lose ....nothing. I know Thailand and "saving face" crap, but I don't get loud, I would've stopped after the first 10 minutes and said this isn't working, I want a different person. Worst than wasting the money is wasting time. I've said it before, if you are a tourists, every day has a per diem expense and time shouldn't be wasted over a useless pos like that. If it was someone not charging from an app, that's the risk we take, if you're paying, no paying for poor service.... Boy69, ChristianPFC, BL8gPt and 1 other 4 Quote
vinapu Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 May be, just may be, such bad experience is boiling down to a low minimum tip? Why? I went today to Jey Spa, Sukhumvit 43. Guy I booked had minimum tip of 1800. Only bad thing I can say is that I,m idiot because after session was over(1.5 hr up to the minute) I tip him 2200 and left. Walking to BTS it dawned on me that I should take repeat session right away because two paradises are more than just one. fedssocr, reader and TMax 3 Quote
fedssocr Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 Like I said before, you don't go to this place for an actual massage. I think there are enough data points to make that clear. I don't necessarily agree that all of the guys on their roster have heavily doctored photos. When I was there the guy I booked did look a bit different because the blond hair in the photos was back to natural black which made a fairly big difference. There were several guys in the shop who were quite cute in my opinion. But ultimately I think that vinapu is probably right that essentially "you get what you pay for" TMax, reader and vinapu 3 Quote
Members Lucky Posted July 12, 2023 Members Posted July 12, 2023 9 hours ago, Boy69 said: 5. Most of the masseuses ...are men. Thus called masseurs! Not giving you a hard time as this is a common mistake, but women don't work these places. Quote
Boy69 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Lucky said: ...are men. Thus called masseurs! Not giving you a hard time as this is a common mistake, but women don't work these places. Mistype error I meant masseurs of course. Patanawet 1 Quote
fedssocr Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 I also wanted to mention that the size number relates to thickness not length, right? Quote
vinapu Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Boy69 said: Mistype error I meant masseurs of course. Most likely spelling checker corected your typing ,happened to me often, typed "boys" , in print shows "buys" Boy69 1 Quote
macaroni21 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 I find it rather inaccurate to call them "masseurs", when they hardly know the first thing about massage. "Moneyboys" may be more accurate, but I guess we've developed a habit of using this term to mean those on apps, and not those in shops... TMax, PeterRS, floridarob and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post reader Posted July 13, 2023 Author Popular Post Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 1:07 AM, Boy69 said: 1. Most of the boys presents on their websites are good looking models who don't actually work there at all and are just a fake cover to attract potential customers. 2. The pictures of the guys who actually working there are heavily photoshop to artificially make them more attractive then they really are. It's been my experience that the guys in most shops in Saphan Kwai and Soi 6 websites are not models and are available for hire. Have not found any of the guys I booked to have been photo shopped. Some actually looked better in person. I know nothing of Pattaya shops. On 7/12/2023 at 1:07 AM, Boy69 said: 6. The rates are over priced. I prefer shops with set minimum tip. Avoids negotiating and establishes baseline of service. It also keeps the cheap Charlies at bay. Again, this is based on my experiences in Bangkok and not Pattaya or elsewhere. jeremy, PeterRS, TMax and 2 others 5 Quote
jeremy Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 I've read a few guys on here have booked a massage boy prior to arriving at the massage shop. When I have tried to reserve a guy the shops send me this Bangkok Bank Pay QR code but I can't use it without a Thai bank account. Is there some other way? I have asked shops on Line, but not really received an answer. Thanks. vinapu 1 Quote
reader Posted July 15, 2023 Author Posted July 15, 2023 If you have a LINE account, you might try sending them a photo of the guy you wish to book on the same day (including time and duration). I've done that successfully in the past but now just show up and choose from their tablets. Since all are free agents, have at least three guys in mind in case your first choice is not available. No deposit was requested. fedssocr and vinapu 2 Quote
ChristianPFC Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 5:48 AM, mixskin said: I touched his dick ( I hadn't seen/ touched it until then) and was disappointed to see that it was not big as I expected ( he is supposed to be a S56). He also had a big lump on his dick which kind of put me off a bit. Fully hard his dick was about 5" .. 😞. ... I will never go back to 15M . I would not base my choice of masseur on dick size they show, all exaggerated in my experience, and dick size not that important to me anyway. I had good, average and poor experiences at those places and for me worth a return. vinapu and reader 2 Quote
ChristianPFC Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 7:07 AM, Boy69 said: 1. Most of the boys presents on their websites are good looking models who don't actually work there at all and are just a fake cover to attract potential customers. 2. The pictures of the guys who actually working there are heavily photoshop to artificially make them more attractive then they really are. 3. The description of the guys not always in line with reality and often exaggerated. 4. Many guys working there have very limited or non skills in doing proper massage and only concertrate to manipulate you in 'happy ending' to extract as more money as they can from the clients. 4. Most of the working guys are straight. 5. Most of the masseuses have very limited English or non , it's very difficult to communicate with them. 6. The rates are over priced. 1. not in my experience 2. not in my experience 3. cock sizes exaggerated, no problem for me 4a. indeed, in my experience massage skill from poor to okay 4b. indeed, no issue at all for me 5. indeed, no problem because I speak Thai 6. not at all in my opinion. 400 for 1 hour oil massage and 800 minimum tip (I haven't taken anyone quoting a higher minimum tip) = 1200, an amount I can write off a research expenses. Chances for a good encounter are similar here and in gogo bars or expensive massage places, but there the expense is much higher. splinter1949, reader and vinapu 3 Quote
Keithambrose Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, ChristianPFC said: 1. not in my experience 2. not in my experience 3. cock sizes exaggerated, no problem for me 4a. indeed, in my experience massage skill from poor to okay 4b. indeed, no issue at all for me 5. indeed, no problem because I speak Thai 6. not at all in my opinion. 400 for 1 hour oil massage and 800 minimum tip (I haven't taken anyone quoting a higher minimum tip) = 1200, an amount I can write off a research expenses. Chances for a good encounter are similar here and in gogo bars or expensive massage places, but there the expense is much higher. I like the idea of a research expense. Perhaps I should try that! Quote
Popular Post Shonen Posted July 16, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 16, 2023 If Christian says it’s not expensive, then I believe it. Lol. alvnv, vinapu, fedssocr and 2 others 1 4 Quote
bucky13 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 Quality isn't a high criteria for some guys... as long as it's a bargain. vinapu 1 Quote
vinapu Posted July 17, 2023 Posted July 17, 2023 17 hours ago, ChristianPFC said: 1 hour oil massage and 800 minimum tip (I haven't taken anyone quoting a higher minimum tip) = 1200, an amount I can write off a research expenses. Chances for a good encounter are similar here and in gogo bars or expensive massage places, but there the expense is much higher. Happy to disagree. First sentence sounds like talking about restaurant and saying " I never order anything more expensive than 100 baht". Sure one can fill himself with just rice with sprinkling of soya, sauce but isn, t more elaborate dish like chicken with cashew nuts more stomach rewarding? . Chances of good encounter may be the same but sometimes we may need more than just a dick and balls, some good looks or build perhaps? Last night I hosted some fine specimen who even in his bar stands out, certainly not one to be foud everywhere. Again, every restaurant serves, a food but edible pizza can be found only at Madrid tavern Ruthrieston 1 Quote
vinapu Posted July 17, 2023 Posted July 17, 2023 6 hours ago, bucky13 said: Quality isn't a high criteria for some guys... as long as it's a bargain. Well said " for some" Quote