Is Indicting Trump A Good Idea?

[forky123]

1 hour ago, EmmetK said:

Maybe because her weaponizing of the Fulton County DA's office for political reasons is not only ethically wrong, but patently illegal.

Four separate grand juries have now indicted Trump. Blaming elected officials for doing their jobs is 100% Trump. You know what is ethically wrong and patently illegal? Pressuring an official to manipulate vote counts. Also having a plan before the election for fake electors then following through with it. Also, sedition and inciting an insurrection.

 

1 hour ago, EmmetK said:

It's about time the overwhelmingly GOP Georgia legislature woke up. Don't know if they have the votes needed to impeach WIllis, but they definitely have the votes to defund her agency. Try to follow thru with this fake political prosecution when your agency has no funds.

If Trump is innocent, why are all these efforts going into destroying the agencies of law and order? Perhaps Trump should just stay away from committing crime instead. Impossible, I know.

 

1 hour ago, EmmetK said:

Only an imbecile or extreme partisan would say she was only doing her job. Crossing state lines to bolster her false charges proves she is not working as a COUNTY DA. 

If what you say were true, the charges would be thrown out of court. We both know what you say has no substance.

 

1 hour ago, EmmetK said:

Too bad that Booty willis isn't spending as much time on her crime-laden Fulton County as she is on politicizing on the false voter fraud charges against Trump and associates. I'm sure that is what her constituents THOUGHT she would be doing rather than wasting their taxpayer dollars on hyping and funding her next election. I personally hope that this grandstanding will come back and bite her in her ample butt. The good news for the taxpayers of Fulton County is that the DA's office will soon be defunded. Every taxpayer in Fulton County should get a check in the mail.

Here we go with the deflection. Zero efforts to prove Trump is innocent, simply destroy every person, no matter the party, who tries to stop his crime spree. Threaten Grand Jury members for doing their civic duty. Leak their information so they are put in peril of their lives. Only cowards threaten innocent people simply fulfilling their duty to the country. I'd say the GOP legislature wouldn't be idiotic enough to destroy and defund it's own legal apparatus but we see every day just how destructive Trump and his cohorts are.

1 hour ago, EmmetK said:

The fruits of Affirmative Action are there for all to see. Yet more 'progressivism' at work in a once great nation.

Ahh, there's the racism we expect.

1 hour ago, EmmetK said:

A liberal using the words law and order?  lol. Now that is funny!

At the moment, it is ONLY the liberals upholding law and order in the US. There are very few GOP politicians or supporters who are upholding the law, upholding the constitution or being the patriots they claim to be. Instead they seem intent on destroying the country they claim to love. Where do you think all this ends no matter if Trump is convicted or if GOP destroy the rule of law to save Trump? Trump is stoking a civil war and people like you are cheering him on.

[stevenkesslar]

1 hour ago, EmmetK said:

It's about time the overwhelmingly GOP Georgia legislature woke up.

Nice to know you're making progress, dear.  I'd love to see a woke Georgia GOP as well.

 

[EmmetK]

1 hour ago, forky123 said:

If Trump is innocent, why are all these efforts going into destroying the agencies of law and order? Perhaps Trump should just stay away from committing crime instead. Impossible, I know.

 

 

If Big Booty WIllis is not weaponizing her office for political purposes then she should have no problems defending herself and her agency when the impeachment and defunding proceedings begin in the fall.

And based on the crime statistics in Atlanta, the Fulton County DA's office is about as effective in dealing with "law and order" as Crackhead Hunter is in maintaining his sobriety.

Everything  Moore said is 100%  accurate - now we need to see some ACTION on those words!

If there is no procrastination, BBW should be out of office (and perhaps facing some criminal charges of her own) in short order.

[forky123]

You really don't see the irony of projecting the weaponisation of office while the majority of GOP do exactly that in an attempt to override the judicial branch do you? You really don't see the legal and national security issues Trump is causing and the implications for not just US stability, but world stability. Sad and pathetic.

[stevenkesslar]

44 minutes ago, forky123 said:

You really don't see the irony of projecting the weaponisation of office while the majority of GOP do exactly that in an attempt to override the judicial branch do you? You really don't see the legal and national security issues Trump is causing and the implications for not just US stability, but world stability. Sad and pathetic.

I'm sorry.  My memory sucks.  But on the topic of weaponization, who is threatening to slowly and sadistically kill Republican Brad Raffensperger's wife and family ?

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“You and your family will be killed very slowly,” read one anonymous text Tricia Raffensperger told Reuters was sent on April 24.

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“We plan for the death of you and your family every day,” read another text message Tricia Raffensperger told Reuters she had received earlier that month.

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Another warned that a family member was “going to have a very unfortunate incident,” Reuters reported.

I mean, can we just face facts?   What part of being a 1) Black 2) female 3) liberal 4) educated 5) Democratic 6) bitch did we ever expect Trump's election deniers to like?

Call me naive, but I would have thought that if you substitute a conservative White Republican Guv and Secretary of State, who tend to pick on Black activists trying to register people to vote, and who both are saying the same thing about a fair ang honest election, and who both won re-election handily  ...  well, I just thought reason and fact and comity might prevail.  Okay, I know.  Silly of me to think that way.

But the death threats?  Why so harsh?  And who is talking about "weaponization"?  And why?

[KeepItReal]

There ya go!  

[EmmetK]

As part of the impeachment/defund special session, the Georgia GOP needs to subpoena all records between this BLM "prosecutor" and the swamp. Show the world what the DNC nazicrats have done to a nation no longer with any rule of law.

Defund, impeach, disbar and ultimately bring her up on charges and put her big chunkysix in jail.

[forky123]

1 hour ago, EmmetK said:

As part of the impeachment/defund special session, the Georgia GOP needs to subpoena all records between this BLM "prosecutor" and the swamp. Show the world what the DNC nazicrats have done to a nation no longer with any rule of law.

Defund, impeach, disbar and ultimately bring her up on charges and put her big chunkysix in jail.

Or plead not guilty, prove the case if they can and not destroy the US system of government. why does Trump and his Schutzstaffel try to destroy people simply doing their jobs? It's because he's guilty as sin and his supporters are too stupid to breathe and walk at the same time.

[EmmetK]

16 hours ago, forky123 said:

Or plead not guilty, prove the case if they can and not destroy the US system of government. why does Trump and his Schutzstaffel try to destroy people simply doing their jobs? It's because he's guilty as sin and his supporters are too stupid to breathe and walk at the same time.

Wrong... again.
This is a classic case of prosecutorial abuse.

BLM-loving Fat Fani got indictments of 19 white men. That should make her Black Panther father very proud. He hated white people too.

Fani is a perfect example of a low intelligence individual who was handed a degree without having to display a level of competence, and consequently she’s violating the 1st Amendment rights of President Trump. Georgia should be ashamed and take matters into their own hands, as suggested by the good Georgia State Senator Colton Moore and impeach her before she can do more damage to State of Georgia.

She is just another affirmative action woke idiot along with Alvin Bragg, DA of Manhattan and Lequisha James, AG of NY.

 

[forky123]

Your racism and sexism is pretty ridiculous but fairly typical I guess. I guess you use "wrong" the same way Trump does. When he doesn't have the intelligence to refute an argument and wants to appeal to his base without overtaxing the brain cell they share.

If you are right then the cases will be thrown out of court so no need for the abuse, bullying, sexism, threats or even the abuse of the legislature right? Trump is a thug though as are the majority of his sick cult.

[KeepItReal]

Wow. Racist. Sexism. With just a dash of paranoia and elitism to flavor the bile.  

[lookin]

The other day I watched a biography of Al Capone. 📺 👀

He had roughly the same respect for state and federal law as Trump has, and there was no shortage of folks trying to get him in front of a jury.  What I found interesting is that Capone never once hollered 'Witch Hunt' nor did he accuse anyone of 'weaponizing' the judicial system against him.  He just played a straight-up game of 'Catch-me-if-you-can.'

Which they could and which they did.

Early on, he did time at the Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia, where he had a pretty sweet setup.  The warden would come to his cell and listen to the radio.

Eventually the Feds got hold of him on tax evasion and figured it would be good PR to send him to their new federal prison on Alcatraz.

He didn't do so well there, as they soon diagnosed a long-untreated case of syphilis which had begun to rot his brain and left him confused and delusional.  After a long stay in the prison's hospital wing, he got an early parole to go home and be with his family in Miami Beach.

I don't know why I bring all this up in a thread about Donald Trump.  I guess their lifelong devotion to skirting the law is one thing that binds them together.  And the years of mayhem they left in their wake.  But Capone never spent all day every day bellyaching about being treated 'unfairly', and Trump never managed to find a good haberdasher.

Not so far anyway. 

 

 

 

 

 

[EmmetK]

21 hours ago, forky123 said:

Your racism and sexism is pretty ridiculous....

 

21 hours ago, KeepItReal said:

Wow. Racist...

Calling out the incompetence of a black person is not racist. It is a tool used by the left to silence their opponents.
Criticize a black person and you are automatically labeled a racist.  That sounds pretty racist to me.

ANYONE can question the validity of an election...ANYONE! And considering the corruption that is prevalent in Georgia elections, NOT questioning the validity should be considered irresponsible without a full forensic audit. President Trump, just like you and me, has a right to SAY whatever he likes. There is nothing in that phone call that is in any way criminal.
President Trump's first amendment right of freedom of speech is what is being attacked and charged! How can anyone be charged for speaking out...regardless of what they say? They have the right to freedom of speech and that applies to all speech (except, of course, something like screaming "fire" in a theater, but intelligent people, unlike Fat Fani, understand that).

[forky123]

You weren't simply criticising. I'm not going back through your posts as the sexism, racism, lies and random fluffing and felching of Trump you do in them turns my stomach. 

You really need to read up on the first amendment. You can say pretty much what you like. You can lie about what you like and both you and Trump do that far too often. Once Trump starts phoning and texting people to pressure officials into changing a vote. Once he engages in a conspiracy with others to overthrow an election, post fake electors and pressure officials it is not free speech and not covered by the first amendment. At that point it is a crime.

Georgia, and other states, have robust legal challenges that can be made if you have proof that there has been election corruption or mistakes. Trump's lawyers lodged over 63 different lawsuits but provided zero evidence to back up his claims. Only the incredibly stupid keep going on about a "fixed" election. Funny thing is though, even if there had been provable problems with the election, Trump has failed to prove anything of substance, his actions would still be illegal.

[stevenkesslar]

5 hours ago, EmmetK said:

Criticize a black person and you are automatically labeled a racist.  That sounds pretty racist to me.

....................intelligent people, unlike Fat Fani, understand that.

Thanks for helping me to understand the rules of the MAGAverse.

In all honesty, I always did wonder how Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it.  After all, I figured, he'd automatically be labeled a criminal.

Now I finally realize how criminal it is for anyone to think Trump could do criminal things.  Especially if you're a fat and ignorant Black woman.

Do we still have those signs from 2016 around?  How about if we just lock her up?

[EmmetK]

The truth is this indictment should have never happened and this prosecution should not go forward.

Fat Fani will have a lot of explaining to do at her impeachment inquiry. She can explain:

• Prosecutorial misconduct
• Prosecutorial overreach
• Failure to disclose exculpatory evidence
• False confession
• Falsified evidence
• Malicious prosecution
• Prosecutorial corruption
• Retaliatory prosecution
• Selective prosecution
• Subornation of perjury

She will learn very quickly that the wise Georgia legislators who will decide on her impeachment are a vastly different audience than the ignoramuses that elected her as Fulton County DA.

[stevenkesslar]

13 minutes ago, EmmetK said:

The truth is this indictment should have never happened and this prosecution should not go forward.

Fat Fani will have a lot of explaining to do at her impeachment inquiry. She can explain:

• Prosecutorial misconduct
• Prosecutorial overreach
• Failure to disclose exculpatory evidence
• False confession
• Falsified evidence
• Malicious prosecution
• Prosecutorial corruption
• Retaliatory prosecution
• Selective prosecution
• Subornation of perjury

She will learn very quickly that the wise Georgia legislators who will decide on her impeachment are a vastly different audience than the ignoramuses that elected her as Fulton County DA.

Sweetie, you're always at your best when you keep it simple and stupid.  I'm impressed with the words.  But, then again, why would you feel the need to impress a whore?  🤫

Fact is, she's a fat bitch who should be locked up for even thinking Trump could be criminal.  Let alone trying to prove it with so-called "facts" like recorded phone calls and shit.  What fucking nonsense!  But, what is one to expect from a fat bitch, anyway?

Here's the sad part:

Sadly, over half of Americans agree with the fat bitch.  Including a majority of Independents.  And even one in five Republicans.  When a fat bitch can trample over our rights and indict someone just for standing up for democracy, we know we have truly moved away from decency and truth.

Stand with The Real POTUS!  Lock that fat bitch up!  It's the only decent thing to do.

[forky123]

33 minutes ago, EmmetK said:

The truth is this indictment should have never happened and this prosecution should not go forward.

Fat Fani will have a lot of explaining to do at her impeachment inquiry. She can explain:

• Prosecutorial misconduct
• Prosecutorial overreach
• Failure to disclose exculpatory evidence
• False confession
• Falsified evidence
• Malicious prosecution
• Prosecutorial corruption
• Retaliatory prosecution
• Selective prosecution
• Subornation of perjury

She will learn very quickly that the wise Georgia legislators who will decide on her impeachment are a vastly different audience than the ignoramuses that elected her as Fulton County DA.

I don't think I've read so much verbal diahorrea in my life which means I'm sure the GOP will try it assuming they can either get Kemp on board or enough democrats to vote for it. 

[stevenkesslar]

23 minutes ago, forky123 said:

assuming they can either get Kemp on board or enough democrats to vote for it. 

I think what Kemp and Raffensperger did helps explain why they won handily in 2022.  And why Warnock kicked the ass of the Trump Lie Machine alternative.  Or maybe they just didn't like Walker's story about cows fucking cows?   Who knows?

This is a great example of what Clintonista Doug Sosnik said 2022 came down to, and 2024 will likely come down to.

Sosnik:  "What defined the 2022 campaign is we're voting against crazy.  If that's gonna be the driver in defining what this campaign is about in 2024, the Democrats are gonna win.  If it's about Trump's ad [about how the economy was better when Trump was POTUS) that's gonna be a difficult election for Democrats."

Kristol:  "And what do you think is more likely?"

Sosnik:  "Crazy."

My hunch is this is why the GOP is quickly become the party of the Black working class.  All Democrats like me do is elect snobs like Obama and Harris.  Republicans show their respect to graduates of HBUs like Howard and respected Georgia law schools like Emory by calling them fat bitches.  Clearly, the Republicans know better than me.   🤪

 

 

[unicorn]

On 8/21/2023 at 6:40 AM, EmmetK said:

...President Trump's first amendment right of freedom of speech is what is being attacked and charged! How can anyone be charged for speaking out...regardless of what they say?...

That statement is so asinine. Obviously no one is free to say anything he wants to say. Freedom of speech entails freedom to express one's opinion. It does not mean freedom to lie, defraud, swindle, perjure, defame, incite riots, provide state secrets to a foreign power, slander, or any other kind of illegal speech. Yes, shouting "Fire!" in a crowded movie house, to incite injury to others, is an obvious example even a 6 year-old can understand. However, what people say often has to be regulated for societal good. Telling an election official "I want you to find me 12,000 votes" is another category of speech that is not protected, as it constitutes election fraud. How can anyone above the age of 7 not understand that?

[JKane]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JKane]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[EmmetK]

 

These are very weak charges that will get thrown out by the Supreme Court, or tossed out by a lower appellate court.
But It’s not about whether these ridiculous indictments are weak or not — they are.  It is about allowing the clapping idiots on the left to have their hatred for Trump massaged and indulged. The left is a cult of vengeful, irrational wackos who have nothing but hatred for their country. Trump, as a patriotic American who is upholding the constitution, is their enemy.

Delay, obstruct, interfere, but do what ever is necessary to hinder Trump at every turn. He presents a clear and present danger to the National Democratic (Socialist Worker's) Party.

SEVEN MILLION dollars raised since the arrest. 
Thanks, fanni! Nice job fundraising for DONALD J. TRUMP, YOUR 47TH. PRESIDENT. LMFAO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
That dollar amount will soar after Trump makes millions on the merchandise from the mugshot required by Fat fanni willis. This incompetent prosecutor will go down in flames.

[forky123]

3 hours ago, EmmetK said:

 

These are very weak charges that will get thrown out by the Supreme Court, or tossed out by a lower appellate court.
But It’s not about whether these ridiculous indictments are weak or not — they are.  It is about allowing the clapping idiots on the left to have their hatred for Trump massaged and indulged. The left is a cult of vengeful, irrational wackos who have nothing but hatred for their country. Trump, as a patriotic American who is upholding the constitution, is their enemy.

Delay, obstruct, interfere, but do what ever is necessary to hinder Trump at every turn. He presents a clear and present danger to the National Democratic (Socialist Worker's) Party.

SEVEN MILLION dollars raised since the arrest. 
Thanks, fanni! Nice job fundraising for DONALD J. TRUMP, YOUR 47TH. PRESIDENT. LMFAO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
That dollar amount will soar after Trump makes millions on the merchandise from the mugshot required by Fat fanni willis. This incompetent prosecutor will go down in flames.

 

[EmmetK]

57 minutes ago, forky123 said:

 

Thanks for that eloquent and well-thought out response...   lol.
When your only response is to post a silly GIF (or in the case of @JKane a bunch of stupid GIFs), because you cannot posit an intelligent remark, you have waved the white flag.  My thanks for the acknowledgment.
Keep those GIFs coming.....