Airbnb (or other apartment) recommendations

[Milk78]

I am planning a trip to LOS at some point between late April and the beginning of June. 

Hotel prices, whilst not expensive seem to have risen a fair bit. There are still deals to be had for sure, but this time out there I am looking at apartment/ condo options that will help me keep the costs down. 

If anyone has any recommendations that can post that would be really helpful. I am not particularly fussed where as my travel plans are very flexible, so any of the usual spots - BKK, Chiang Mai, Pattaya, Ko Samui,  

Being close to the boys would be good, at least not miles away from any action. Wifi is important. 

Any thoughts? 

[fedssocr]

I'm staying at an Airbnb in a couple of weeks in Bangkok close to the boys at the Ashton Chula. There seem to be a few units in that building listed... and many units there on the longer term rental sites

You can also search for apartments using Agoda or booking.com. 

[Riobard]

I just booked an Airbnb for this Fall, not Ashton Chula but the same area. Then realized the hosts likely have not satisfied the ambiguous loopholes around short-term rental illegality in Thailand, and I was surprised about the paucity of listings many months out.

In my personal home building the reception flags guests that arrive through platforms such as Airbnb and the owner is dinged a large fine. The condo corp can also bar arriving guests. 

I was also wondering if immigration asks about lodgings when one lands. 

I am sure these rentals usually stay under the radar but I am thinking of taking the option to cancel for the unit I booked. I do require a kitchen and separate sleeping quarters, so appreciate the clue about the filter option for Booking wherein the units typically fall under hotel licensing. They are just more expensive for refundable options and you likely get the all-day racket with regular slamming of doors from daily cleaning staff as for a standard hotel room. 

[fedssocr]

Booking.com has lots of condos for rent in Pattaya that are managed by various property companies. I had a nice big apartment overlooking the beach in View Talay 6 a couple of years ago 

 

[Lucky]

12 hours ago, fedssocr said:

Booking.com has lots of condos for rent in Pattaya that are managed by various property companies. I had a nice big apartment overlooking the beach in View Talay 6 a couple of years ago 

 

The apartment I booked in View Talay many years ago was a dump. The pictures sure looked good though.

[MarcSingap]

16 hours ago, Riobard said:

I just booked an Airbnb for this Fall, not Ashton Chula but the same area. Then realized the hosts likely have not satisfied the ambiguous loopholes around short-term rental illegality in Thailand, and I was surprised about the paucity of listings many months out.

In my personal home building the reception flags guests that arrive through platforms such as Airbnb and the owner is dinged a large fine. The condo corp can also bar arriving guests. 

I was also wondering if immigration asks about lodgings when one lands. 

I am sure these rentals usually stay under the radar but I am thinking of taking the option to cancel for the unit I booked. I do require a kitchen and separate sleeping quarters, so appreciate the clue about the filter option for Booking wherein the units typically fall under hotel licensing. They are just more expensive for refundable options and you likely get the all-day racket with regular slamming of doors from daily cleaning staff as for a standard hotel room. 

Short term is not allowed. Airbnb is not allowed but only if it is for a short term. No problem at all if booked for minimum of 30 days + 1 day.

[floridarob]

10 hours ago, Lucky said:

The apartment I booked in View Talay many years ago was a dump. The pictures sure looked good though.

It felt like the housing projects when I last stayed there....

[fedssocr]

there are many View Talays (or is it Views Talay?) aren't there? The one I stayed in is next to Central Festival between Beach Rd and 2nd Rd. I think it's a real hodge podge of things. Several property management companies on the first floor renting out units so probably many are investment condos but I presume some have more permanent residents. I had a big corner unit with a nice balcony overlooking Pattaya beach. There was a second bedroom that was quite small off the kitchen so I guess your maid could live there. Gigantic bathroom with a jacuzzi tub. Lots of dark wood all over. And an extra bed in the living room which I didn't love.

[jjhjjp]

I'm also planning a trip soon- is there any reason to do a hotel instead of an AirBnB/apartment?

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, jjhjjp said:

I'm also planning a trip soon- is there any reason to do a hotel instead of an AirBnB/apartment?

daily cleaning, avoidance of getting foul of anti shot term rentals in condos, proximity to your favorite bar , walk distance to a nearest church 

[Riobard]

22 hours ago, jjhjjp said:

I'm also planning a trip soon- is there any reason to do a hotel instead of an AirBnB/apartment?

It’s a false distinction because apartments falling under hotel licensing can be booked through hotel lodging listing sites (eg, use the Booking dot com filter) and those lodging categories can also be listed on Airbnb or similar platforms. The distinction is accommodation size and range of self-catering amenities. Without the filter you will sometimes see an apartment equivalent under ‘select room’ when scrolling down (eg, Raya) but they tend to be expensive. Hotel apartments not listed on Airbnb or similar platforms tend to be more objectively reviewed and you will see more complaints because Airbnb guests tend to overrate or simply bypass a review if dissatisfied, and are reviewed themselves by hosts; those show in your profile visible to hosts if the review process had been reciprocal. 

[hojacat]

On 2/26/2023 at 8:33 AM, jjhjjp said:

I'm also planning a trip soon- is there any reason to do a hotel instead of an AirBnB/apartment?

In a lot of hotels, the guy can go straight up to your room. At the airbnbs I stayed in Bangkok, you had to go pick him up downstairs. Not the best, if you are trying to have a threesome or more, as you have to leave on waiting in your place while you go down to pick up the other.

[iendo]

On 2/27/2023 at 11:02 PM, hojacat said:

 as you have to leave on waiting in your place while you go down to pick up the other.

If only the boy could walk down with you to pick up the other 🙂

 

[Tomas1576]

On 2/27/2023 at 11:02 PM, hojacat said:

In a lot of hotels, the guy can go straight up to your room. At the airbnbs I stayed in Bangkok, you had to go pick him up downstairs. Not the best, if you are trying to have a threesome or more, as you have to leave on waiting in your place while you go down to pick up the other.

Many places it is the opposite; hotels where the boys have to leave ID in resorption and can’t go to the rooms as you need a keycard for the lift, and on the other hand (like in my condo), they can come directly to the room

[jjhjjp]

53 minutes ago, Tomas1576 said:

Many places it is the opposite; hotels where the boys have to leave ID in resorption and can’t go to the rooms as you need a keycard for the lift, and on the other hand (like in my condo), they can come directly to the room

This is helpful! Definitely planning on having 3 (or more...)

[hojacat]

On 3/3/2023 at 9:41 AM, Tomas1576 said:

Many places it is the opposite; hotels where the boys have to leave ID in resorption and can’t go to the rooms as you need a keycard for the lift, and on the other hand (like in my condo), they can come directly to the room

Never had the issue with the guy having to show his ID at the reception in Thailand. I know it happens in some high end hotels like Mandarin Oriental but I have mostly encountered that in Vietnam when traveling to Asia.

Airbnb offers more space for your money and usually more privacy though I like to stay in hotels popular with gays and watch sometimes who is bring up whom or just walk the halls and hear those unequivocable noises. The biggest drawback of most Airbnbs I would say is the lack of daily housekeeping. You definitely want new towels and bedsheets if you plan to average a high daily number of guys as the traces of your sluttiness starts becoming too evident.. The guys for sure will notice and tell you, even if at the end they will still end up having sex with you.

[reader]

5 hours ago, hojacat said:

Never had the issue with the guy having to show his ID at the reception in Thailand. I know it happens in some high end hotels like Mandarin Oriental but I have mostly encountered that in Vietnam when traveling to Asia.

Airbnb offers more space for your money and usually more privacy though I like to stay in hotels popular with gays and watch sometimes who is bring up whom or just walk the halls and hear those unequivocable noises. The biggest drawback of most Airbnbs I would say is the lack of daily housekeeping. You definitely want new towels and bedsheets if you plan to average a high daily number of guys as the traces of your sluttiness starts becoming too evident.. The guys for sure will notice and tell you, even if at the end they will still end up having sex with you.

I've never had request for guest to show ID at an Airbnb.

Since Airbnb are long-term rentals, I wouldn't book one unless it had an washing machine.

[floridarob]

15 hours ago, hojacat said:

Never had the issue with the guy having to show his ID at the reception in Thailand.

I def prefer this....MANY years ago, I offed the DJ from Dream boys when it was a much smaller venue. Got to Tarntawan and security said he was 3 months before being legal....we went back to Dream Boys and sorted it out. 

[Patanawet]

On 2/26/2023 at 11:33 PM, jjhjjp said:

I'm also planning a trip soon- is there any reason to do a hotel instead of an AirBnB/apartment?

erm, because Airbnb's are illegal if shorter than one month in Thailand.

[reader]

On 2/26/2023 at 11:33 AM, jjhjjp said:

I'm also planning a trip soon- is there any reason to do a hotel instead of an AirBnB/apartment?

An alternative to Airbnb for long stays (30 or more days) is to contact hotels directly and inquire if they offer non-advertised discounts. Some are quite willing to quote a rate, particularly during shoulder and low season periods. Before I began using Airbnb, Tarntawan and Amara were among those locations that did offer monthly rates. Doesn't cost anything to ask.

[MarcSingap]

Displayed at tle lobby of many good condos in pattaya :

[scott456]

I would not want to see short term renter coming in and out constantly if I own a unit in the building, unless I own the unit for the purpose of renting out to short term renters.

[Riobard]

On 2/25/2023 at 10:15 AM, MarcSingap said:

Short term is not allowed. Airbnb is not allowed but only if it is for a short term. No problem at all if booked for minimum of 30 days + 1 day.

31 days is prudent, on the safe side, to be sure, and only 3.3% more in cost, let’s say you want the place for 25 days, and are willing to pony up payment for unoccupied days in order to support the host to abide by Thai regulations. In many cases, the overall cost for a month in a condo apartment is less than for a hotel-licensed unit with a full kitchen and one or more separate enclosed bedrooms over a period short of a month. Hosts may be content to earn just enough to maintain growing property equity. 

I have read the Hotel Act and Condominium Act; neither specify a definition of monthly or contain wording regarding quantity of days, so either 30 days or 31 days is an arbitrary interpretation. Additionally, monthly is not specified as beginning to end of a month on a conventional calendar versus any equivalent composite of days that does not commence and end on the first or last of a given month. However, if you check-in for 30 nights on March 1st, check out is March 31st, so you have physical presence on 31 calendar days although paying 30 days. Similarly, if you lease an apartment anywhere globally, let’s say for one year, you would typically take possession March 1st and vacate March 31st the following year

The Condominium Act contains no provision whatsoever that defines or restricts the permissible time frame of rental to a 3rd party by a unit owner, or start or end dates within a month. The time criteria for a period beyond “short-term” is not defined. Rental periods are not contained in the legislation. It stipulates restrictions on commercial activity within a private portion, but does not mention or justify any distinction between rental contracts of less than a month versus greater than or equal to a month as far as commercial activity … that temporal stratification is contained solely within the Hotel Act. Most conventional renting is advertised on commercial platforms. The two Acts don’t knit together well for implementation. 

My interpretation of the regulations is that if you are able to produce a platform-generated receipt for 30 consecutive nights, beginning on any date, your host would be considered to be in compliance with the intent of the Hotel Act. The enforcement of related rules for shorter periods lacks teeth and consistency but as a visitor you would likely want to keep things above board. 

[Riobard]

4 hours ago, Riobard said:

Oops, 13 month error. Better example is Mar1-Feb28 or Aug1-July31. In this context an average calculated by dividing by 12 is fluid, but rounded to 30 at most. 

 

[gayinpattaya]

When traveling best to stick to the local laws, and keep yourself out of trouble....

Short term Airbnb bookings are illegal.. Avoid them.
Gogo bars, illegal. 
Prostitution, illegal.  
Watching porn, illegal. 
Sex toys, illegal.
Buying booze after midnight at stores, illegal. 
Drinking after 2am, illegal. 
Electronic cigarettes, illegal. 
Going outside without wearing underwear (under your pants/shorts) illegal...

I bet a missed a few. 

But don't worry, you can sit on the balcony in your hotel, smoke drugs (cannabis), and masturbate with only your imagination. Best to stay out of trouble.... 


I love Thailand haha.