Cambodian mystery and Thai solution - first trip of 2023

[vinapu]

 

Day 2

 P went home and I went to world famous for breakfast. With some time to kill before my dental appointment I wandered through markets in sois 10 and 5. Dental work went smoothly and they did even more than I intended to so very glad again with their service and expertise at Dr. Smile.

Straight from there to Madrid Tavern for lunch with ChristianPFC . Both ladies recognized me immediately remembering I drink Chang from the bottle and my favorite pizza is shallots and cherry tomatoes. After lunch Christian went his way and I walked to hotel basking in very pleasant weather.

After bit of refreshing I decided to go to Sabaidee Spa , my mainstay in Dec 2021 but neglected in last 2 trips. I hoped my favorite from there Ton will be available but he was not , when mamasan called him he admitted is bit sick . No harm done as from the back emerged guy I saw in their Line feed and was interested to meet anyways so engaged him immediately. His name is Tin and he also works in Jupiter although when I was there subsequently I did not see him.  Great time together helping me to mitigate  jet lag.

 Energized I took motorsai to Patpong 2 where I had a beer with Tiny Lao in Dragon bar.  While I like him, that beer made me sleepy so I went to hotel on my way Lined ex model X if he is interested in curing my jet lag. He was but not immediately as he got drunk last night he said which must be truth as he arrived by taxi even if he has a car. First class personality, body and service as always although I could use more of his time today had he arrived earlier than he did. Excellent find anyways.

 Having V short time yesterday I asked him for overnight today but since he came right after work and was hungry and it was a while since my lunch ,  we went to Foodland and while there on his suggestion we decided to visit Fresh Boys for the show. While boys there are not my type I liked show and no doubt that point of view was shared by many since bar was full house despite being mid-week . I distributed 250 in tips and show , quite long,  was still on when I , feeling sleepy and bit horny in V presence  , suggested we should go. So off we went at exactly midnight. Always great time with him , no pretense,  humble  guy with clingy disposition but like last night I caught myself being half minded with him and another half  of my mind was in Phnom Penh with CCP tomorrow.

 

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, reader said:

Vinapu is not jealous type.

Just don't try to take his chicken with cashew nuts. 🙂

correct on both counts 

[vinapu]

Day 3 , finally THE GREAT DAY

 V needs to go to work so we waked up at 7 and after refreshing marched to Unesco Designated for the breakfast warmly greeted by personnel there  sporting knowing smile. I will see it plenty in coming days , that’s sure thing, LOL, Then V went his way and I returned to my room to pack.

  Since trip to PP is short , just three days,  and I’m returning to Baan Silom I will leave my new suitcase with most of my goodies including two bottles of red wine for CCP there and take only what’s necessary.

Before I started I fired phone up and already that early was message from my PP guy , “what time  you are coming ?” , “ I will pick you up ‘ , ‘just call me when you arrive’. Thrilled I took it as we are in business, picture of his car with plate followed so all good.  My heart beat increased for a while and cloud 9 seemed closer. Since my flight was at 3 pm I was in no rush to pack up. I went for a stroll to  colourful market in soi 5, changed more money as we are supposed to return on Sunday. Not that I need it since money for CCP is set aside and secured but I don’t like to be left without cash on hand in any case.

Checked out exactly at prescribed 12 noon, left suitcase on reception and took BTS + MRT+ SRT combination to arrive at   Don Muang about 1 hr later . I had tasty roasted duck with rice lunch at coupon place in corridor leading from station to terminal. Checking in was smooth ,I had enough time to buy another bottle of red wine in duty free for 600 hoping we will open it later tonight. I  send Line message to CCP I’m on my way , got ‘see you soon darling” response and at 3 pm we took off to land in PP 1.15 hr. later.

I had e-visa so admission was fast , I bought SIM card for few dollars , messaged CCP I’m here, to get a picture of his car parked under the big poster outside of airport so it was very easy to find him and soon I was in.

Smile the same like before , sweet and charming but it looked he lost some body mass. We were on busy street in rush hours so not much more than handshake but I couldn’t help not to touch  his impressive biceps and indeed they were softer than I recalled. He noticed it and shyly admitted he did not exercise that much recently. He also looked bit tired and his eyes were bit yellowish and also admitted to getting bit drunk last night.

I noticed whiff of disappointment that my new shiny suitcase did not arrive with me but I explained that luggage was limited on the flight and she is waiting for him in BKK as promised. Roads were  crowded as expected at 5 pm so it took us good 45 minutes to reach hotel. He told me that he is no longer working in bar after some disagreement with owner about leaving earlier. Boys there are expected to work till end of their shift and what they do after is up to them.

So it seemed  had he did not contact me in beginning of month if I arrived as originally planned I would not have  a chance to see him anyways  unless he would be responding to my Line.

 We also ironed two trips to Phnom Chisor and Udong I previously planned for tomorrow and after tomorrow by his car I still want to check on his bar tonight  so he suggested I have fun there and he will come to hotel at midnight

 He dropped me at hotel and distracted by his smile I forgot to give him his bottle which I realized in lobby but he already speed away so I texted him with apologies to a sweet response ‘ have fun in bar with boys and see you later tonight”.

This time I stay in Okay Boutique hotel in small alley behind National Museum. Nice view of PP and Mekong from it’s restaurant on 15^th floor. Hotel seemed to be busy with tour groups. I was given room with no less than 3 beds but not much view as it was on 3^rd floor only

It was already getting dark so I went to ChristianPFC’s  recommended Dolce Vita restaurant for my serving of Cambodian version of chicken with cashew nuts and from there to Space Hair bar hoping to see some familiar faces. This time mostly new guys , I recalled one or two only , guy I invited to my hotel last trip was absent  so I lined him to show up at least tomorrow.

 Bar was not busy until about 10 pm so I was holding court to three  guys, then one more joined us for drinks. It was all good natured fun. One needs to remember that as soon as drink is finished your companion may feel free to leave the table so if t you want to keep them , keep buying drinks. Fortunately it’s not that expensive exercise but keep tab on what you order. I suggest you make it obvious you count drinks  ordered as I was under impression I was charged for 2 or 3 more   than my boys consumed unless some of them ordered something on my tab behind my back.

 Did not make any fuss over that , 52 $ for evening of fun seemed reasonable. Mindful I expect my guest at midnight I tipped discretely three of my companion 10$ each and  left bar past 11 pm and walked toward hotel, Lined CCP as I walked to ensure him  I’m there and  received  message he will be bit late as he had some unexpected delivery and wants to eat something before he arrives. Fine I will wait. And wait I did to a complete silence, at 12.40 I sent message I’m going to my room ( I was waiting outside ) and about 50 minutes later, quite devastated I went to bed.

 Yes , it was expected considering earlier antics  but at least I’d expect some false excuse or something , not just silence. And considering promised tip, well above PP standards,  absence  was puzzling even more.

 

[vinapu]

Few pictures of Okay Boutique hotel , my room and view from the restaurant on top floor

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

have fun in bar with boys and see you later tonight”

And here lies the problem (drama)

[vinapu]

47 minutes ago, floridarob said:

And here lies the problem (drama)

not quite. Since he left bar on apparently not good terms with boss he was not interested to go there. On another hand I was clear that I want to go there for at least drink or two so his idea sounded very sensible in circumstances.

[Boy69]

6 hours ago, vinapu said:

Yes , it was expected considering earlier antics  but at least I’d expect some false excuse or something , not just silence. And considering promised tip, well above PP standards,  absence  was puzzling even more.

 

Too many red flags raised with this boy . You must clear expectations with him before he ruined your trip .the minimum expected from him is to be with you at the first day of your arrival  but he just dropped you off near the hotel and left it's not a good sign .

[khaolakguy]

8 hours ago, vinapu said:

Day 3 , finally THE GREAT DAY

Mindful I expect my guest at midnight I tipped discretely three of my companion 10$ each and  left bar past 11 pm and walked toward hotel, Lined CCP as I walked to ensure him  I’m there and  received  message he will be bit late as he had some unexpected delivery and wants to eat something before he arrives. Fine I will wait. And wait I did to a complete silence, at 12.40 I sent message I’m going to my room ( I was waiting outside ) and about 50 minutes later, quite devastated I went to bed.

 

Sorry to hear that. As soon as I read that he dropped you off at the hotel and would return at midnight I feared the worst.

[musgrave]

Forget the drama soak up the beauty of that hotel 😁😁

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, Boy69 said:

Too many red flags raised with this boy . You must clear expectations with him before he ruined your trip .the minimum expected from him is to be with you at the first day of your arrival  but he just dropped you off near the hotel and left it's not a good sign .

I agree about the flags, first was that request to change flight. All expectations were spelled out and cleared, it's execution where whole thing failed.

About dropping at hotel and leaving me there was my idea. On first day I wanted him for the night as I wanted to do some walking around and visit his former  bar first. 

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, musgrave said:

Forget the drama soak up the beauty of that hotel 😁😁

and it was only 35 $ with breakfast

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, khaolakguy said:

As soon as I read that he dropped you off at the hotel and would return at midnight I feared the worst.

 this is how I wanted it on first day so no, for me it was what was expected, drama starts at midnight's stroke so to speak

[Boy69]

9 minutes ago, vinapu said:

About dropping at hotel and leaving me there was my idea. On first day I wanted him for the night as I wanted to do some walking around and visit his former  bar first. 

IMO It was not a good decision, you should be with him from the moment you arrived to create commitment with him , by asking him just to drop you off at your hotel and send him away maybe you created the impression that you aren't serious with him or that spending the whole time with you isn't so important for you. maybe he got offended of your unusual request to let him go immediately after you arrive to your hotel.

[vinapu]

34 minutes ago, Boy69 said:

IMO It was not a good decision, you should be with him from the moment you arrived to create commitment with him , by asking him just to drop you off at your hotel and send him away maybe you created the impression that you aren't serious with him or that spending the whole time with you isn't so important for you. maybe he got offended of your unusual request to let him go immediately after you arrive to your hotel.

no need to add drama to the story. First ,  If I send him 200$ without asking anything in exchange few weeks prior he knew I'm serious. Second whole idea of picking me up from airport was mine because.... Third from beginning and this is what he asked for because of work as personal trainer during day , idea was that days in PP are mine and nights are ours. Only when I suggested I want to take two day trips and can  use him and his car for that instead of travel office he promised to arrange his affairs so we can go together. 

Fourth, I asked if he can go upstairs for an hour or so  but he declined because he had some session at 7 and I knew about it beforehand so it was just courtesy on my side.

Fifth, trip from airport was paid as again , I suggested that if he has time he can pick me up so I can spend money on him instead of taxi.

I made many costly mistakes in this affair but that arrival arrangement was basically what we both agreed on well before I set off from Bangkok so no, I don't see my fault here 

[12is12]

I humbly submit: there's no reason to disect V's conduct here. 

He is very experienced and clear headed. He knew what he was getting into. I m sure it's not the first incident of its kind in our world of paid sex; lets hope it's the last for V. 

Vinapu, warm hug. (-:

[floridarob]

29 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

He is very experienced and clear headed

Experienced, yes....😉

10 hours ago, vinapu said:

not quite. Since he left bar on apparently not good terms with boss he was not interested to go there. On another hand I was clear that I want to go there for at least drink or two so his idea sounded very sensible in circumstances.

Nope.....what you want and what he expects are 2 different things here, that should be obvious by now. Now he knows you think of him as a MB not anything "serious".

If you wanted to , win him over, you should have told him , forget about the bar, let's do something together. Now he'll be more bitchy (Drama)....ask @gayinpattaya he always hooks up with these types.....he attracts DRAMA😳

[MarcSingap]

Sorry V. to read how things were badly going in PP... I believe you have done your best with this boy. This shows he is not very smart, missing such a good and caring customer... This may not be the end of the story, but he obviously considers you as granted. Not great.

You should now enjoy PP. Don't forget you still have the bottle of red wine. Hang out to find the right boy who may deserve it !

[Boy69]

4 hours ago, vinapu said:

no need to add drama to the story. First ,  If I send him 200$ without asking anything in exchange few weeks prior he knew I'm serious. Second whole idea of picking me up from airport was mine because.... Third from beginning and this is what he asked for because of work as personal trainer during day , idea was that days in PP are mine and nights are ours. Only when I suggested I want to take two day trips and can  use him and his car for that instead of travel office he promised to arrange his affairs so we can go together. 

Fourth, I asked if he can go upstairs for an hour or so  but he declined because he had some session at 7 and I knew about it beforehand so it was just courtesy on my side.

Fifth, trip from airport was paid as again , I suggested that if he has time he can pick me up so I can spend money on him instead of taxi.

I made many costly mistakes in this affair but that arrival arrangement was basically what we both agreed on well before I set off from Bangkok so no, I don't see my fault here 

Now the picture is more clear I think your behavior was impeccable,  I am really disappointed from V's behavior. I hope things get better with him however I am not optimistic about that. 

[vinapu]

 Day 4

 Contrary to what may be expected I slept quite well and would sleep even longer but at 7 am I was waked  up by sound of air conditioner. Breakfast on 15^th floor , included in price, I truly enjoyed food and the view . Going down,  my phone sounded, it was Line message , you guessed rightly,  from CCP. Repeated last night excuse about delivery and being hungry like he couldn’t say that at night he will not come.

Then complained that he is stressed because of debt and it caused him to lose 5kg, fact I noticed yesterday at the airport. And noticed that I keep tight limit on his monetary requests. Next out of blue question come if during those 5 days in BKK we can make trip to Phi Phi island . I said no , I’m not planning to go outside of Bangkok . He mused ‘ why ? we have so many days” so I answered   because it would cost more than I planned to spend. And I had question too ‘ what about our trip today?’ , answer was brief “ I think I cannot “ . All I could do is to say ‘ thank you for letting me know , I will ask at travel office”.

Then I knew all affair is  over. And as it turned so did him because my next message “ what about tomorrow? “ was never read till last day of the trip.

So yes, all warning signs were like that, warning signs . it was only me who seeing those opted to ignore them feeding what  my friend described as  ‘ magnificent illusion” . It was magnificent indeed. But no more . I fired my tablet decided to cut my stay in PP short. Tickets for today were bit costly so I bought one for tomorrow for exactly the same flight I was supposed to take with him day later. It was my third ticket for PP-Bkk flight, first was original and second for that requested earlier flight. Also booked 1 night at Rose hotel because Baan Silom was full for the night.

 Wandered a bit around riverbank and downtown including magnificent Psar Thmei market but emotions and uncured jet lag conspired and early afternoon I just collapsed in bed to a sound sleep till 9 p.m.

Then groomed myself a bit and went to Space Bar again skipping dinner. Hard to believe but breakfast was only meal I had today. In the bar I was greeted by my last trip companion. I did not waste time to ask him to come to my room after bar closes , idea he approved gladly. Later in course of conversation he told me that he knows I’m taking ‘big guy” with me to Bangkok. Wishing it was true indeed I said nothing. So obviously CCP spilled the beans, otherwise how he would know ?.

 Few rounds of drinks kept me and boys at my table in good spirits, fact is quite a few of them were hiring material if I stay longer. Tab was even higher than yesterday and again I suspect I was charged for more drinks I ordered  unless boys ordered some behind my back on my tab. No complains as I had good time indeed. But it looks no end to today’s dramas.

 My expected companion disappeared somewhere and was nowhere to be found.  I went to hotel hoping he will be waiting there but no. So lined him only to receive message that he is angry with me because he noticed I tipped few guys just for sitting , drinking and talking.  Clearly PP air is not good for me this time, sigh. But I got bright idea to offer him what I’d pay CCP tonight and shortly he was on his way.

 

 What I thought as consolation price was consolation indeed. He turned out very warm and yet energetic  guaranteeing sleepless steamy night  for us both. Probably best of that whole trip.

 

[vinapu]

13 hours ago, 12is12 said:

I humbly submit: there's no reason to dissect V's conduct here. 

He is very experienced and clear headed. He knew what he was getting into. I m sure it's not the first incident of its kind in our world of paid sex; lets hope it's the last for V. 

Vinapu, warm hug. (-:

thank you for your kind words.

I don't mind dissecting my conduct , it's why I posted that story so others can learn and discuss.

Yes I knew very well what I'm getting into, even more , CCP also knew as we discussed both 3 days in PP and 5 in BKK in detail well before I even left home.

  We should remember it was CCP who contacted me first as after unsuccessful attempt to lure him to Siem Reap in October I left things as they were and did not try to contact him , only when  planning trip to Thailand I decided to pop into PP to see if he is still there.

For me whole mystery hangs on that strange request made about a week after we started talking to go to Bangkok first, even if that was only 20 minutes earlier. From that moment,  while my hopes were still very high and they were till last moment of morning of day 4 described above, I knew to expect some derailment on the way although total ghosting was not what I expected at all , if only because quite serious money for Cambodia was supposed to be dispensed.  To this day  nobody came with plausible explanation as why he wanted me to go separate and earlier at that. 

[vinapu]

13 hours ago, floridarob said:

Nope.....what you want and what he expects are 2 different things here, that should be obvious by now. Now he knows you think of him as a MB not anything "serious".

If you wanted to , win him over, you should have told him , forget about the bar, let's do something together. Now he'll be more bitchy (Drama)..

again, no.

It was him who raised question of money first and in plain language ' I go with you and can't work at that time  , how much from you for to me ?"

For PP part he made disclaimer early that he will be only available at night and even that was bit conditional  as he expected to be busy during daytime. 

Sure there's possibility that something was lost in translation and misunderstanding could create some offence but I doubt as that is not explaining again that strange flight request made early on.

[vinapu]

10 hours ago, MarcSingap said:

 I believe you have done your best with this boy. This shows he is not very smart, missing such a good and caring customer... 

You should now enjoy PP. Don't forget you still have the bottle of red wine. Hang out to find the right boy who may deserve it !

I also can't find fault in what I did other than cutting almost in half first money request and denying second but that , considering we did not even exchange handshake yet was correct thing to do.

no, I did not enjoy PP this time for obvious reason, time spent at Space Bar was notable exception.

What happened to the bottle will be revealed tomorrow 

[18past19]

On 2/14/2023 at 7:15 PM, vinapu said:

Fine I will wait. And wait I did to a complete silence, at 12.40 I sent message I’m going to my room ( I was waiting outside )

I would have been furious if i were being stood up outside for 40 minutes.   i couldnt find any decency in this guy at all.  I wish i could go to PP myself and kick his butt for my friend V. 

[vinapu]

3 minutes ago, 18past19 said:

 I wish i could go to PP myself and kick his butt for my friend V. 

I wouldn't let you to damage his nicely shaped butt, 

yes that silence was indecent , he could invent some excuse and in view of our earlier arrangements ( he said very early that his time in PP may be limited ) I would swallow it .

 

[DenverDude]

On 2/11/2023 at 6:36 PM, vinapu said:

fortified by few pictures he send me unsolicited ( no I will not post them here nor send to you by PM even if they were decent pictures

I wish you would post the pictures now so that the rest of us can steer clear of him.

btw I'm not very active here but I love reading your posts.