Back in Thailand from Cambodia, October 2022 trip report

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, MarcSingap said:

i am just ordinary sporty muscular business guy 🙂

I'm neither sporty nor muscular not business but at least ordinary and a guy, lol

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, MarcSingap said:

I go Bangkok every month now,

some people have all luck in life

[vinapu]

Day 4

 Morning fun was spoiled by alarm in the phone, V was supposed to leave at 7  in order to go to his work. Today I’m leaving for Pattaya, just for 1 day. It was planned long ago when I heard rumors HC may be there, not knowing that by sheer luck he will be brought by my friend to Bangkok. Other reason was that I promised bkkmfj I will see him whenever I will be in Pattaya. For many years we exchanged messages o the forum , he was one who steered me to my first ever 4 hands massage in Guy Spa, long closed shop in Sukhumvit soi 23 so I was keen to see finally face behind the nick and name.

Since I was just one day my apologies I did not signal to aussie_ and gaybutton I will be coming to Pattaya.

While packing I was curious how my friend and  HC went along overnight and hoped to satiate my curiosity over breakfast in Unesco with both. Line message came soon ,  “see you at breakfast at 8.30, HC already left this morning “.  This was bit surprising as he knew I will be going to Pattaya by taxi this morning and I’m not some stranger to him   but if he preferred comfort of bus , fine with me , no offense taken.  Perhaps he was too excited with tip from my friend and eager to spent it thought I. As it turned out later , I did not miss mark at all..

We had nice and quite long talk at Unesco and then in my room , I left some items with him as one doesn’t need much for just  a day and at 11 went down to meet my driver services of whom I booked yesterday just by being stopped by him along Surwong with taxi to Pattaya proposal. We also agreed on 1200 baht price.

 There was no need for me to take taxi but I decided that this trip I will see how rich people are travelling in style so budgeted for it. I must say that despite  cost difference -  taxi 1200 versus  225 = 140 (bus) +75 to get to Swampy +10 for baht bus in Pattaya I liked speed and comfort . We left Raya at 11.15 and at 1 pm he was already turning into Boyztown. Money well spent , specially in view that I live walk distance from airport and taxi would cost me roughly the same, Still I’m not losing sight of fact that those 975 more could be better spent  on some boy.

 On my way I Lined both HC and bkkmfj that I’m on my way. HC asked if I will see him  so I invited him for 5 pm. for some short time fun. And reported to bkkmfj I should be free around 7-7.30.

I got myself comfortable at Copa, took shower and went to Paradise Spa in next soi to get massage by Wit, another guy I saw quite a few times. He was both happy and surprised to see me, become sad when I told him I’m just 1 day and even more sad when to his overnight suggestion I responded they I may have other plans  but I brightened his day asking what time he starts work tomorrow and learning it’s 10 am I promised to see him for another massage. Massage 500 and I tipped him fully deserved 1500, my normal rate for 1.5 hr. massage.

 Then I went for an early dinner or late lunch  and took stroll along Beach Rd where I noticed visible increase in number of tourists compared to May which is  good news but seeing that sign for Alt Heidelberg restaurant was taken down made me sad since if there was any place in Asia cooking like my Mom, God let Her rest in peace ,  it was there.

 HC showed exactly at 5 and what I noticed right away ,  in comparison to yesterday,  was visible change of mood and for better. Yesterday he seemed withdrawn , at least when I saw him over that dinner in Icon Siam which he spent glued to his phone. Atop of  MahaNakhon it was only bit better. Obviously my friend made him happy thought I. Did not take long for me to learn why as he mentioned very generous tip with beaming smile. He told me what he did with money confirming my morning suspicions that he was keen to leave early to spend it. It was like he was freed from very heavy burden and that feeling was in plain view.

 It's for my friend to comment whether that tip was earned and deserved  but it was obvious that he did very good job lifting HC spirits which I let him know by Line as soon as HC left. Good deeds can’t be kept in secret.

 Sensing that change of mood  and mindful of my feeling that my adoration to HC is one sided street I decided to utilize newly acquired asset i.e. his visible happiness and asked him for  treat he did not award me in 2 meets we had before – a kiss. YESSSSSSSSSSSS ! First was kind of fast and shy but repeat come right away and it was kind of proper one. “My friend trained you well “ was my thought, LOL.

With mood set before we even undressed  rest of meeting was very pleasant and before I even said anything he enquired about long time tonight  to which I happily agreed.

 Shortly after he left there was message from bkkmfj that he is in hotel’s verandah  so I rushed down  and finally after all those years ( I guess our first PM exchange on forum was in 2013 or 2014) we shook our hands . Lots to talk  about , from ancient happening right to the goings today. Around 10 pm we switched venue and went to BBB for  a show.  Stage was full of boys , fully dressed , only few bare chested.

There was another guy whose look I liked so I had an opportunity to demonstrate to bkkmfj my ‘vinapu tuck ‘ forcing red note inside that lucky boy jeans or rather briefs hidden in them.

 I asked mamasan about dress code and he told us it what boss wants and boys have freedom to take shirt off or remain clothed. Strange thing for boy  go-go bar but it is what it is. Show was quite long and dynamic , mostly thanks to B-Boys troupe, Plenty of cocks visible and for a tip , touchable.

At midnight we  settled bin for drinks,  bkkmfj went home and I grabbed HC waiting in the soi and both of us trekked  to my room in Copa. My second long time with guy I admire. None of us wasted time. I extracted another kiss , HC knowing I’m returning to BKK tomorrow secured that I will take him for my remaining 4 days there at 4000 a day. Exactly mid way between my offer and what he expected. Truth to be told this is what I was counting for going to Pattaya this morning. He even volunteered that if I bring other guy , he may wait in his friend’s room  in Silom area. All in,    embracing HC  I considered my day well spent with those kisses as an unexpected bonus .  And  so was him as he mentioned his luck of meeting my friend  yesterday and me today. We will see how he will manage that luck I thought at end of day 4.

 

[jason1975]

This HC must be very handsome! You are smitten by him!

[vinapu]

56 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

This HC must be very handsome! You are smitten by him!

I'm for quite of few years ever since I first saw him well before covid. But it always seemed like one way highway and still does. It will be more to this story, much more.

[18past19]

On 12/12/2022 at 9:23 PM, vinapu said:

we are truly twin brothers,

probably two helicopters from the same production line. 

[18past19]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

I let him know by Line as soon as HC left.

I still appreciate your message every time i think about it.  otherwise i was left puzzled when he rushed out once i handed over the tip into his hands that morning. 

[bkkmfj2648]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

Other reason was that I promised bkkmfj I will see him whenever I will be in Pattaya. For many years we exchanged messages o the forum , he was one who steered me to my first ever 4 hands massage in Guy Spa, long closed shop in Sukhumvit soi 23 so I was keen to see finally face behind the nick and name.

I had a great time finally meeting you Vinapu - I truly enjoyed myself after waiting all of these years.  

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

 Shortly after he left there was message from bkkmfj that he is in hotel’s verandah  so I rushed down  and finally after all those years ( I guess our first PM exchange on forum was in 2013 or 2014) we shook our hands . Lots to talk  about , from ancient happening right to the goings today.

Yes, we had SO much to talk about.  I left with many good memories and a greater understanding of who KFC is.  :>))

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

There was another guy whose look I liked so I had an opportunity to demonstrate to bkkmfj my ‘vinapu tuck ‘ forcing red note inside that lucky boy jeans or rather briefs hidden in them.

Vinapu, thanks to you - I have since used your patented "vinapu tuck" - please be on the lookout for the royalty payment via Venmo.

I see how this 'vinapu tuck' can definitely lead to a 'vinapu fuck' of the offed guy.

and, I have to say that your stamina is quite impressive - soo many per day!!! Bravo!!

I hope to hang out with you the next time you pass through Pattaya - even in a group setting with your enlarged fan club :>))

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, 18past19 said:

I still appreciate your message every time i think about it.  otherwise i was left puzzled when he rushed out once i handed over the tip into his hands that morning. 

Knowing what we know now it is not that surprising, You lifted him up financially and what counts even more ,  psychologically. He got wind in his wings  and wanted to  consume his luck ASAP. He was one piece of happy man that afternoon  when I saw  him in Pattaya . It was surprising and in a sense , moving,  so I had to let you know as his manner of departure was bit odd and you could feel puzzled indeed.

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

  I left with many good memories and a greater understanding of who KFC is.  :>))

 

o Gee, another one swearing at me !

2 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

 

 - I have since used your patented "vinapu tuck" - please be on the lookout for the royalty payment via Venmo.

 

I have it good so include those royalties in your next "tuck" as boys may use it better than me

2 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

I hope to hang out with you the next time you pass through Pattaya - 

you will, rest assured, it was fun to see you after all those years and it's always fun to do bar hopping with other members.

Only question is when I will be there but working on my next year plans as year without visiting Thailand twice is year lost

[vinapu]

 

Day 5

I could use more steamed night I thought in the morning but still was very happy I nailed long time with object of my silent adoration, LOL .At least he was quite clingy and did not complain about me disturbing his sleep like last time in May. Again I noticed he is  attached to his phone, “ today’s youngsters”  I sighted when I noticed at night he went to the toilet and took his phone with him. On another hand I thought it was considerate he did not turn it on in the bed .

Copa doesn’t have breakfast so we went to BayView restaurant for first meal of the day and after that HC went to his room to pack,  promising to be back at noon.

 I went to Paradise remembering I promised Wit to have another massage with him , on my way stopped at taxi booth by ‘metal tables ‘ restaurant and ordered taxi to Bangkok for noon at 1300, paid 300 there and 1000 payable to driver I was told.   

Wit did not show up so I went to my room to pack up, Lined him ‘ where you are ?”, “I slept in” answer come and was very disappointed  when I told him I will be leaving at 12. ‘ Come to say good bye “ he asked. Since I did not have much to pack I went for a stroll to Tukcom and returned by way of Sunee Plaza of course completely empty at that hour but I just wanted to get some fresh air from there.

Returning I  stopped by Paradise to say good bye and consoled Wit with news I will be back in 2 weeks, he even walked me to the hotel where I found taxi waiting already, good 15 minutes before noon.  HC showed up at 12 on the dot, I must command him not only for his good looks but also for being always on time, he must have drop or two of Swiss blood in him. Endearing to me as I know and observe difference between say, 4 and 4.05.

 It took 2 hours exactly  to get to Furama Sathorn which since December trip become my favorite hotel in the Silom area. Big rooms with balconies , breakfast included , close to Chong Nonsi station.

I was greeted with news of upgrade, their system probably noticed my recent loyalty and it turned out to be two steps up  upgrade  as I got a room with separate living room  and bedroom . Since we were two and stay was 4 days I asked for 2 door cards, just in case. And nobody blinked and eye when they asked if I want 1 or 2 beds in bedroom  and answer was obvious one.

We went to eat something at modest Thai place in front of hotel , then HC asked if he can heave some sleep so I left him alone and went to Arena for massage greeted there by Art , the mamasan known to me since 3^rd Crusade I think. About 10 guys , all muscular hunks so I had problem of picking one but went for biggest smile.  Massage 800 for 1.50hr, I tipped 1500 and session was bordering on fantastic with both massage and afters.

 When I returned to the room HC was still asleep – I did not know I was so active last night that exhausted him to that extend but it was fine with me.

 He waked up just when I felt hungry and suggested soi 4  for a dinner , idea I liked so we went to

G’Bangkok for my schnitzel and some Thai dish for him. It turned out he is friend with some guys from Banana Club across the soi  so after dinner we went there to have some beers and drinks with his friends and when time came we went inside for a  show and more drinks. Boys there are more on twinky and next boy side but I having HC beside me   I did not pay that much attention to who is available but noticed one guy previously from New Twilight there. Since I tipped him there in May  I repeated my “vinapu tuck ‘ with red note in Banana Club as well.

 We returned to hotel bit past midnight and after all those beers and drinks we were on quite jolly and possibly when walking and talking, loud side, he, he. Not a bad end to day 5.

Room at Furama Sathorn, 6148 for 4 days , breakfast for 2 included

 

 

 

[jason1975]

very cheap accommodation and so spacious!

[macaroni21]

Wow. Great room for only 6148 baht!

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, macaroni21 said:

Wow. Great room for only 6148 baht!

for 4 nights , it makes 1537 a night to clarify record.

During covid they had very deep discounts and it's how I found that hotel in Dec 2021. Now I'm big fan of it.

[vinapu]

 

Day 6

 I said not a bad end of day 5 reporting from previous day but now I need to add  not a good start to day 6. After having some fun,  thanks to those drinks at Banana, I feel asleep quite soon . Only, in middle of the night,  to be waked up to light glaring  from the phone’s screen  and  quite loud sound of music played right by my ear.  Phone addiction suppressed last night resurrected. It was both annoying and upsetting, light , noise and obvious lack of consideration, specially at that hour. I genuinely like the guy so decided to bear it for a while but after perhaps 20 minutes I told him the it’s too loud and he may wake up people in other rooms.

 His solution was to go to the living room, at least he closed bedroom door  so I fell asleep soon but when waked up in the morning  bed was empty. I went to living room to find him on the phone , he did not even bother to rise a head, not to mention explanation or showing remorse.. Not exactly service one expects from guy hired for 4 nights. Why I said nothing I don’t know but I did not. Angel’s genes perhaps? We went downstairs for a breakfast, did not talk much as I was not happy and he was on the Facebook.

 Then I left him in the room as I went to UNESCO to see my friend , pick up my things I left with him 2 days ago and of course exchange news, not very happy ones  on my side obviously. We agreed that it must be out of control addiction.   In view of deal we had who would behave like that imperiling tip 4 times of 4000.

 Upon returning I found him on the phone again , did not even bother to raise his head to say hallo. Nice change was that shirt was removed, perhaps thought as consolation price for me. Angelic side of me announced that I’m taking boat along Chao Praya and asked if he is interested to go with me. .Answer was bit surprising , “ yes and on way back we stop at Icon Siam and you can buy me ( I forgot make) jeans for 2900” , just like that.

I was left with no option that drawing  his attention to fact that being glued on the phone all the time and ignoring me is not what I’m paying for . Answer was quiet and composed “ If I can’t use my phone  I’m going back to Pattaya “.  “ I won’t be holding you back” I said. In few minutes  he was packed , said “ have a good luck” and was gone. I don’t know why but I gave him his 4000 for the time as agreed originally.

I was not upset nor pissed off, in fact I felt sad for him as clearly this addiction spinned out of control and beyond logic. Who that way would waste  option of making 12000 in 3 days ?  In fact it would be 4000 more since my plan was to give him 1000 extra per night if all will go well. Obviously one of  my most favorite guys of all time is in deep trouble but I can’t be taken for a ride to that extend. I’d feel bad for myself. So when he left I was relieved that I cut short  such affair.    

 Of course called my friend right away with news and he was not surprised and was as concerned as me about sanity of all that.

Liberated, I took tourist boat from Saphan Taksin all the way to Kao San. First thing I did there was to sit down, gulp a Chang beer and eat  my staple in Thailand – chicken with cashew nuts. I wanted to buy day pack as one I brought from home broke this morning (unrelated to my guest behavior ) but did not find what I wanted i.e. one which can be folded into neat package when not used so I returned  to civilization and went straight to Arena for another serving of massage there.

Today’s selection was even better than yesterday but since I noticed Fai whom I know from before Angkor Wat was built I knew right away who gets my business, specially that I remember his massage was  outstanding then and was the same today as it turned out.

 Energized went to hotel as it was about time Christian PFC was supposed to show up and from there we went by BTS to Madrid Tavern to exchange news over pizzas there. Over years we developed system of ordering there two different ones and sharing them half -half.  We walked back to Patpong , it’s actually not that far. We skipped bar visits as he is not happy with recent trend of fully dressed  boys.

 I, believing that if you don’t have what you like , you like what you have,   in the evening went to Hot Male. First had a drink and talk with P, one of new guys there, cousin of one of veterans as I’m eyeing him from day 1. Paulsf told me before I arrived that I will like that new boy and I did indeed.

In fact I do like him  a lot , I promised  to  off him some day soon since  I had plans for the night already made as soon as HC left me in the morning. Then I took P upstairs for the show but shortly he was called to his duties to beer bar. Not that I felt orphaned as  one of their guys whom I offed in May  for threesome recognized me , smiled so I called him over , offered drink and gentlemanly told him I’m not offing tonight.

Good idea as soon mamasan came and asked me if I will be taking him  because some other customer is interested if I don’t. After a while I let boy go and got  a glimpse of that other  customer – young Asian who took him and one other boy. Vast stamp collection to show I thought. Right after the show I went to Tawan which was already emptying but still I had round of drinks with  resident twink , Dam and K, who was one I was taking  home as arranged in the morning after HC orphaned me..  

 I did not waste an opportunity to  tease twink again that he doesn’t like me because never wants to go with me, we finally cleared that short time is OK, he refused few times indeed because was under impression I like long time only.  I told him I like boys more than long time.

 K was not hungry so we skipped that part and went home on his new, impressive  motorbike. Day 6 which did not start well at least was concluded nicely with massive hunk to embrace.

 

[bkkmfj2648]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

I was left with no option that drawing  his attention to fact that being glued on the phone all the time and ignoring me is not what I’m paying for . Answer was quiet and composed “ If I can’t use my phone  I’m going back to Pattaya “.  “ I won’t be holding you back” I said. In few minutes  he was packed , said “ have a good luck” and was gone. I don’t know why but I gave him his 4000 for the time as agreed originally.

I was not upset nor pissed off, in fact I felt sad for him as clearly this addiction spinned out of control and beyond logic. Who that way would waste  option of making 12000 in 3 days ?  In fact it would be 4000 more since my plan was to give him 1000 extra per night if all will go well. Obviously one of  my most favorite guys of all time is in deep trouble but I can’t be taken for a ride to that extend. I’d feel bad for myself. So when he left I was relieved that I cut short  such affair.    

This guy definitely has a social media addiction.  Having met him with you when you were here BEFORE either of us knew about his addiction - he is definitely one of the TOP hotties in BoyzBoyzBoyz (BBB).  He is one of the FEW guys who takes his shirt off (with his impressive torso) in BBB lineup when the guys are making themselves available to the audience.  It is SO sad that he is most likely not even aware of his addiction and how it is negatively impacting his future earnings.  Since you left, each time I see him in BBB it all comes back to me this story that you shared with us today .....

To be honest, I wanted to chase after him (as he is also my type) after you had left Thailand - and I knew that the he would be available - but I just could not - as this story was too much of a turnoff for me so I just moved onto other hotties....

[jason1975]

Vinapu, I feel so sorry to hear about HC!    

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

I was not upset nor pissed off,

I was pissed off just reading this.....it's not only the money, but OUR time. As Tourists, we come a long way and spend a lot of money and the per diem is high. I had someone in Pattaya that ended bad, was late and I ended up alone. I preferred alone than with someone on their phone the entire time, so ended as a wasted night....to me.

We were out at a bar in the neighborhood and I walked off from him, he didn't ask for money and I didn't offer any...... A Brazilian friend said to me, while talking about incidents like this.....that's why they're still sucking cock for money....😏

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

 It is SO sad that he is most likely not even aware of his addiction and how it is negatively impacting his future earnings. 

.........

To be honest, I wanted to chase after him (as he is also my type) after you had left Thailand - and I knew that the he would be available - but I just could not - as this story was too much of a turnoff for me so I just moved onto other hotties....

he is but like all addictions,  at times is stronger than him 

go for him but I suggest short time only , at least first time. Story will continue for much better and then bit   down again.

He has advantages and despite all that nonsense i described  I must say I still like him quite a lot. It may be that my first impression from few years ago was so striking that's is embedded somewhere in my otherwise empty head

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, jason1975 said:

Vinapu, I feel so sorry to hear about HC!    

it's ok, it will be continuation. I just wanted to tell you guys that so you know what sometimes may happen. It was stressing then but thanks to other fish in the sea got over it by the evening.

Sure , I deserve better from him .I know and he knows. And I got it. 

Good news is , that debacle sobered him up a lot as we learn in due course.

[MarcSingap]

3 hours ago, vinapu said:

he is but like all addictions,  at times is stronger than him 

go for him but I suggest short time only , at least first time. Story will continue for much better and then bit   down again.

He has advantages and despite all that nonsense i described  I must say I still like him quite a lot. It may be that my first impression from few years ago was so striking that's is embedded somewhere in my otherwise empty head

yes he seems a perfect Short Time boy... 

[MarcSingap]

3 hours ago, vinapu said:

he is but like all addictions,  at times is stronger than him 

go for him but I suggest short time only , at least first time. Story will continue for much better and then bit   down again.

He has advantages and despite all that nonsense i described  I must say I still like him quite a lot. It may be that my first impression from few years ago was so striking that's is embedded somewhere in my otherwise empty head

I may have a look to him in 2 weeks in Pattaya... "the hottie in love with his phone", if he is ok into 3some....

[vinapu]

14 hours ago, MarcSingap said:

I may have a look to him in 2 weeks in Pattaya... "the hottie in love with his phone", if he is ok into 3some....

You may like him so go for it, as for 3 some  I'm not sure but as I said few times , I like him , whether he likes me I have some doubts.

[vinapu]

Day 7

 Not many fireworks last night and in the morning , are we getting too used to each other? I’m not complaining but that was my morning reflection. At least he was not in rush and I was not about to chase him away too although at one point I did for simple reason – buffet  breakfast at hotel  will be finishing in 30 minutes so we better rush.

Then I went to Unesco for our daily chat with my friend. After yesterday we had actually a lot to talk about.

 Early afternoon returned to hotel as I was expecting former model X.  What a guy! Always delivers outstanding time, he knows how to treat customer to earn fee and get repeat business. Not only body pleasures but also he is good conversationalist so never boring moment. Worth his fee for sure , one of those few who, when they left I immediately think when to bring them back. 

 Next step my recently established daily trip to Arena. Guys I had previously looked with hope but I decided to take somebody new, one of most massive guys their guys  and there’s no shortage of those in Arena.  In the room I had better look and he looked somewhat familiar , it turned out he used to work in Tawan , it’s why. Another great massage by  great guy, literally and figuratively.

It was late afternoon and I was supposed to dine with anddy, we met at soi 4 but decided to go to Madrid by his motorbike. Great conversation and great food. We got table upstirs as 1 floor was occupied by talkative Thai and his entourage.

Anddy was so kind to give me a lift to Tawan , just in case resident twink I have hots for will be there and willing to share his time with me. Double bingo, I just changed motorbikes and off we went to my hotel. After at least 4 tries my curiosity was satisfied and finally I learned his nick Mas.

He confirmed again he was reluctant to go with me because other guys told him I take only long time which is kind of correct when comes to Tawan guys.    Mas has full time job in some store and this is reason he is not keen on LT.  My curiosity satisfied, after 2 hours as agreed  I freed him from my oppression.

 He went back to his bar and I went to Fresh Boy for a show. It was late and show was already in , bar was crowded and they found me a seat only because some patron was kind enough to move and make it . Quite a good selection , even if twinks, their specialty is not mine. I was in time for  big cock show so I distributed few tips for  a feel. As usual boy I liked the most got also red note and I could see he was nicely surprised as in bar we did not even exchange glances. But for overnight I had other idea, Lined V is he is available, as always response was immediate and brief “ when and where”.

By time I reach hotel he was already there waiting. Always good time, steamy and fun with  V. I even suspect he must like me a little , I never feel encounter with him is transactional and it’s very comforting , like meeting friend with benefits. Great end to very interesting and stress free day 7.

 

[jason1975]

I was at Tawan last night. If only you had posted your account of day 7 earlier, I would have looked out for "twink" Mas.