4th report on Pattaya: Jomtien Complex - Supertown

[12is12]

Jomtien Complex - Supertown is compact: 4 short streets, connected by 3 L-shaped turns, excluding the 2 bigger streets on its rims. Better understood by viewing the map just posted bu bkk (B). 
It boasts about 30 bars, 9 massage parlors, 10 cafes/rstrnts, and 4 main hotels. In the longest and main part, a roof covers the pedestrian street/lane (as shown in the photos below). That's where the main noisy action is, 20:00-02:00.
3-4 bars hold cabaret performances, the most impressive is Venue's.

Walking along parlors or bars, boys approach with "hello mister, u want massage / sit / drink.... ?". 
Some here have dscrbd this as a hassle, to b avoided sometimes by taking shortcuts. Although I found next to no one offable (most being effiminate or twinkish or not my taste), during my 6 nights there I didnt feel annoyed by them. Au contraire; I always answered "no thank u", and/or shaked my head for "no". If they came closer to engage, I bantered with them; when they took my hand or touched me, I used the opportunity to caress them. Though by the third day they prbbly understood I wont b tempted, they persisted and it was just fine by me.
Indeed, once when I was at Delice buying cookies, I bought some extras, and offered them to the massage boys in front of Soda and the 2 parlors close by. They were pleasantly surprised.

As I checked into Agate, I started recieving apps solicitations from 1-200 mtrs away. Given there r at least 300 guys working around there, I later wondered why only a miniscule nmbr of them use apps to market themselves. 
As mentioned in my 3rd rprt I prefer the apps method, so all my meetings were cooked this way.

I went into bars 4 times. The 1st was Venue; they got my attention bcs of the cabaret. I sat, watched, didnt see any offable staff, and rspndd to apps messages. The show was not as good as BBB's, but certainly enjoyable (though repetitive). After an hour+ a match clicked in grindr, so I retired to my hotel room.

The other 3 bar visits were at Double Shot, which rate a rprt by itself.

Two things surprised me.
1. Most farangs were sitting by themselves, pairs or groups. Very few were sitting with boy, usually in silence and looking bored. Depite intense people watching I didnt see even one instance of what would look like an off.

2. There's no erotica / horniness in the air, despite sex persumably being uppermost in the minds of most present. Didnt see any farang lust or any temptatious boy.
Or maybe I dont know how to read....

I liked Jomtien Supertown; the concept, the atmosphere, people watching (boys and cstmrs). Doing that with B was an added value bcs he is such an expert watcher.   (-:

[bkkmfj2648]

28 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

Indeed, once when I was at Delice buying cookies, I bought some extras, and offered them to the massage boys in front of Soda and the 2 parlors close by. They were pleasantly surprised.

and as a result you earned some Thai, "jai dee", merit with the guys - because 2 of them told me - wow - that falang is so nice he gave us some cookies....

30 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

Given there r at least 300 guys working around there, I later wondered why only a miniscule nmbr of them use apps to market themselves. 

You reminded me of one of our many conversations on how the guys could up-market themselves.  One idea is if they could have QR codes on their person - so as they walk by we can snap their QR code and learn more about them, where they work in the Complex, and how to contact them.  For us "shy guys" this would be a great way to expand our guy experience(s).

32 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

1. Most farangs were sitting by themselves, pairs or groups. Very few were sitting with boy, usually in silence and looking bored. Depite intense people watching I didnt see even one instance of what would look like an off.

As you know, I am a new retiree here - and I have reached out to many fellow falang retirees here and only very few have reacted to meeting up.  Most just replied, "sounds like a good idea - I will contact you" - and then weeks and months pass and nothing happens.  I believe that the established falang groups are content as they are and are not looking for any new entries.  For those sitting alone night after night - I do not know why?

It would be great if the people who manage the  https://www.gaysupertown.com/

website could organize 1 time per month a meetup and/or bar crawl within the Complex, where the newbies can meet the already established falangs to break the ice and to create some possible new friendships.  I know that over in Pattaya in the heterosexual world they often organize bar crawls in Soi Buakhao where the newbies can meet the residents to have a good time and make new friends.  I am not aware that there is any such equivalent in the gay communities here in Jomtien and Pattaya.

39 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

There's no erotica / horniness in the air, despite sex persumably being uppermost in the minds of most present. Didnt see any farang lust or any temptatious boy.
Or maybe I dont know how to read....

I will wait to respond to this until you post the Double Shot portion of this trip report - as there was definitely horniness in the air!!!!!!!!

[12is12]

Bkk, ur QR idea is major sci-fi!

PS, wldnt define myself as "shy".

 

Not residing here, I dont know anything about expats socializing. I posted an 'academic' query about this on the forum a couple of months ago, and got the impression there's not much going on. To each - his own....

In any case, my comment was focused not on farangs' interaction btw themselves, but rather on the srprsng observation the so few of them in bars were interacting with local boys.

[kokopelli3]

1 hour ago, 12is12 said:

 

Walking along parlors or bars, boys approach with "hello mister, u want massage / sit / drink.... ?". 
Some here have dscrbd this as a hassle, to b avoided sometimes by taking shortcuts. Although I found next to no one offable (most being effiminate or twinkish or not my taste), during my 6 nights there I didnt feel annoyed by them. Au contraire; I always answered "no thank u", and/or shaked my head for "no". If they came closer to engage, I bantered with them; when they took my hand or touched me, I used the opportunity to caress them. Though by the third day they prbbly understood I wont b tempted, they persisted and it was just fine by me.
Indeed, once when I was at Delice buying cookies, I bought some extras, and offered them to the massage boys in front of Soda and the 2 parlors close by. They were pleasantly surprised.

As I checked into Agate, I started recieving apps solicitations from 1-200 mtrs away. Given there r at least 300 guys working around there, I later wondered why only a miniscule nmbr of them use apps to market themselves. 
As mentioned in my 3rd rprt I prefer the apps method, so all my meetings were cooked this way.

I went into bars 4 times. The 1st was Venue; they got my attention bcs of the cabaret. I sat, watched, didnt see any offable staff, and rspndd to apps messages. The show was not as good as BBB's, but certainly enjoyable (though repetitive). After an hour+ a match clicked in grindr, so I retired to my hotel room.

The other 3 bar visits were at Double Shot, which rate a rprt by itself.

Two things surprised me.
1. Most farangs were sitting by themselves, pairs or groups. Very few were sitting with boy, usually in silence and looking bored. Depite intense people watching I didnt see even one instance of what would look like an off.

2. There's no erotica / horniness in the air, despite sex persumably being uppermost in the minds of most present. Didnt see any farang lust or any temptatious boy.
Or maybe I dont know how to read....

I liked Jomtien Supertown; the concept, the atmosphere, people watching (boys and cstmrs). Doing that with B was an added value bcs he is such an expert watcher.   (-:

There is much to comment regarding your post; I will try a little.  You said there were none that were offable, but all of them are available to off, although you did say for yourself. What is effeminate or twinkish to you can be desirable to someone else.  Like you said, the boys do try to entice you into the bars with their banter, but then do not sit with the customer, that is true. All one has to do is ask them to sit and they will do so immediately.  If they do sit with  you, buy them a drink and give them a tip of 100 Baht.  If you like them then a bigger tip is appropriate. Many farang like to sit with friends and chat and often don't want a boy to sit with them. But then the right boy appears and that can change quickly. I often see boys being offed as I enjoy my drink; you will see them walking down the soi with a farang which means he has offed them.

Another poster bkkmfj asked about meeting other farangs.  That is not easy!  Most farang I know are wary regarding meeting others, for better or worse. It can be a tricky situation at times. There really are so many odd  balls out there!   Best way is at some sort of gathering where one can chat a bit but such gatherings are not common. It has taken me years to develop relationships with others and usually through friends of friends. Being polite and asking some simple questions may help in meeting others.

Getting to know one person is a good start and go from there. I doubt that a bar crawl would draw much of a response. And regarding alcohol, many farang are sparse drinkers if at all while others can't get enough.

Double Shot was mentioned as having horniness in the air! The boys there are straight and can be offed for 500 Baht, but how they perform is anyone's guess. I never got a direct report on what happens and am looking forward to that report.

Hope that these comments will be of some help.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[12is12]

Kokopelli, I know how the system works. All I wrote was:

1) They werent MY taste, which of course doesnt disparage either their looks or others' tastes.

2) I didnt see anyone "walking down the soi with a farang", which surprised me. I expected it to b a common sight.

[kokopelli3]

46 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

Kokopelli, I know how the system works. All I wrote was:

1) They werent MY taste, which of course doesnt disparage either their looks or others' tastes.

2) I didnt see anyone "walking down the soi with a farang", which surprised me. I expected it to b a common sight.

Sorry 12is12,  I meant no criticism of your post in my comments.

[12is12]

(-:

Nothing to apologize about. I know you didnt; just wanted to set the record straight.

I view your kind of comments as fulfilling the aim of this forum.

[vinapu]

10 hours ago, 12is12 said:

(-:

Nothing to apologize about. I know you didnt; just wanted to set the record straight.

I view your kind of comments as fulfilling the aim of this forum.

thk u for vy cphsv rprt

[vinapu]

13 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

 

You reminded me of one of our many conversations on how the guys could up-market themselves.  One idea is if they could have QR codes on their person - so as they walk by we can snap their QR code and learn more about them, where they work in the Complex, and how to contact them. 

what next, chip sewn in their buttock readable by our smartphone ?

If we want to learn about them why not to buy them a drink and ask those questions while trying to caress them here and there under the table for an additional tip ?

[12is12]

3 hours ago, vinapu said:

thk u for vy cphsv rprt

Hahaha Vinapu (-:

Humored my whim, but as a response to a short vowels-full text.

I never drop normal letters, so:

thNk u for A vRy cMpRhNsv rprt.

[gayinpattaya]

On 12/10/2022 at 3:58 PM, 12is12 said:

Two things surprised me.
1. Most farangs were sitting by themselves, pairs or groups. Very few were sitting with boy, usually in silence and looking bored. Depite intense people watching I didnt see even one instance of what would look like an off.

 

While the start of high season has bought a large number of new faces (tourists) wondering around Jomtien Complex, a majority of people sitting in the complex are expats, at least from my observations of the last week or so. I would estimate 60/40.
Speaking for myself and the majority of my friends, when we are in the complex we sit as a group of expats. Occasionally there will be a boyfriend with one or two of us, but not always. What is normally the case is in a bar nearby, our boys are having their own fun with their friends. When I see a guy sitting alone in a bar, it's very rarely someone I recognise as an expat. I normally assume it's a tourist looking for a boy to go sit with. Few expats go to Jomtien Complex to pay bar fines and take boys. That's generally a tourist activity. Speaking personally, I'm an afternoon person. The evening is for dinner and drinks. 

I would say that it's quite easy to get into a conversation with other expats even as a tourist, you just need to pick the right bar, and know your tribe. If you are British, go to @home bar and chat to someone at Zacks table. If you are Australian, go meet Rob at Cocka2 Bar. He will talk your ear off and be happy to meet you, and introduce you to everyone else there. German? Go to Dolce Vita. Swiss, BuBu Bar, Flemish/Dutch, Doubleshot, ect ect. Most expats prefer to talk in their native language, understandably. 

As for "making friends"... That will take time. Most expats have quite close-nit groups of friends and not always open to "new people". It's sad to say but there are some very dodgy people around Pattaya. I guess anything worth doing takes time. 

 

[12is12]

Thanks VERY much for this explanation, GiP.

I urge u to consider re-posting the 3rd prgrph as a new thread, under "where to find your friendly expats in Jomtien", or something like that. It wld b VERY useful to new visitors.