PeterRS Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Look what happened in Indonesia yesterday. It is now illegal to have sex with any one other than your legal wife (which, being a Muslim country, means sex between legally married a man and a woman). The law applies not only to all Indonesians, all non-Indonesians not living in the country but also to all tourists! Even though the religion practised in Bali is based on Hinduism, the law applies there as well. So if any gay couples or pairs have plans to visit Indonesia, stay platonic because these crazies will certainly have their own version of Iran's morality police. Penalties can be up to one year in prison. TMax and dscrtsldnbi 1 1 Quote
dscrtsldnbi Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Apparently, the risks are relatively slim: for an investigation, an official complaint must be made, and it is only the parents and the spouses that are allowed to make these complaints. The risk is still there, of course, and the general direction of these developments is deeply worrying: https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/warnings/what-bali-sex-ban-means-for-aussies/news-story/c333fa91d211aac056ce69e2889253c0 TMax 1 Quote
reader Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Indonesia sex laws ‘nail in coffin’ for LGBTQ rights From AFP (AFP) – Indonesia’s legislation banning sex outside marriage represents a major new threat to the LGBTQ community’s rights in the conservative country, where same-sex unions are not recognised. “It’s another nail in the coffin at the moment. A big nail,” Dede Oetomo, an activist with the LGBTQ rights group GAYa NUSANTARA, told AFP. Indonesia is the world’s most populous Muslim country, and its constitution recognises six religions. Homosexuality is not illegal in the Southeast Asian nation — except in the police, military and in Islamic law-abiding Aceh province — but rights groups say the legislative changes pose an inherent risk to LGBTQ people. “Many LGBTQ couples have been living together under the radar, as same-sex marriage isn’t allowed here,” said Robby Nasution, a 30-year-old freelancer who lives with his partner in Bali. “With the new law, this means that another right has been taken away from the community.” Kai Mata, a musician and activist, said LGBTQ communities were “bracing ourselves for impact and backlash” from the legislation, which stood “against our rights to exist”. The amendments still need to be approved by President Joko Widodo before they come into force. – ‘Living in fear’ – Albert Aries from Indonesia’s Law and Human Rights Ministry defended the amendments before the vote and said they would protect the country’s marriage institutions. Sex outside marriage could only be reported by a spouse, parents or children, drastically limiting the scope of the amendment, he said. But Andreas Harsono from Human Rights Watch said LGBTQ people were “living in fear” in a society that was becoming “more and more conservative”. “If they are reported by a member of their family, their life can be ruined,” he told AFP. There are already dozens of national and local regulations that affect LGBTQ people, and some have been arrested on charges of lewd conduct under anti-pornography laws. Last month, two Indonesian soldiers were given a seven-month jail term for having gay sex, which the military deems “inappropriate behaviour”. At least 15 members of the police and military have been fired in recent years for having gay sex, according to Amnesty International in 2020. Last year in Aceh province, two men were sentenced to nearly 80 lashings each for having sex. “Of course, I feel this country is not safe for me,” said Gusti Arirang, 29, a musician who identifies as pansexual. “I’m not pessimistic about Indonesia’s future progress as I am trying to stay strong. But now I have more concerns and am more cautious.” Quote