Visting Latin America need tips!

[Phoenixblue]

Hi,

I am hoping to visit Latin America early next year and am trying to plan a travel itinerary. For a month's time visit should I visit more than one country or more? I have in mind a visit to Mexico and Colombia vs going to Brazil and Argentine. Would appreciate any tips and pointers Thank you!

[floridarob]

Need more info to give an opinion, likes, touristy things or just being a ho.....etc....

[Mavica]

I think you need to decide if you want to visit "Latin" areas of North America, or South America.  Secondly, what are your Spanish-language communication skills?  As floridarob commented, what are your interests, goals for the trip, expectations?

[xpaulo]

Mexico has really good food, Colombia has hot guys, Argentina has fantastic steaks and Brazil has hot guys. They all have nice beaches except Argentina I guess. Those are my impressions, though I haven't quite been to Colombia yet... have an air ticket for this winter, fingers crossed I get there. As the others have said what do you want the most. I'm a 100 percent passive guy, for me Brazil has been by far the best place in the world in for masculine tops. I want to go to Buenos Aires at least one more time for the steaks and the hot waiters. I saw an American woman fall instantly in love when the  waiter came to her table. Mexico has a fantastic culture, people will start singing anywhere and beautiful colours everywhere.

[NIrishGuy]

While I realise that it's more of a straight white US citizens tourist trap than any genuine Mexican trip experience, it seems that for a variety of reasons ( of which I am still unaware it seems) my BF has decided that he and I are visiting Cancun for Christmas and New years from the 21st Dec to the 5th Jan for or Christmas break this year ( i.e me having to ensure an actual normal holiday rather than my going off to whore about somewhere with multiple cute guys in abundance 😞 ). So, just wondering does anyone have any tips or suggestions as to where we might go while there bar wise (straight or gay) etc?

We're actually staying in Cancun City rather than at the hotel zone ( mainly due to the eye watering prices of the beach hotels over our dates!).

We're already booked on several of the usual tourist trap type trips such as swimming in the Cenotes and visiting Chichen Itza etc, so it's more as to if anyone has any recommendations for nice restaurants or good (safe) fun gay bars perhaps ?

After reading several reviews for a few gay bars there most were enough for me to think to give them a wide berth due to excessive overcharging / ripping off of tourists and then operating blatant scams and even carrying out some assaults on tourists around the City area, but perhaps they were just random bad reviews for what are ok bars, I dont know.   The one thing I am getting so far though is Cancun hmmmm Pattaya / Bangkok it most defintely is NOT thats for sure !

So, any tips or suggestions ( aside from WTF are you thinking even going there to what to me from youtube videos at least is American holidayers  straight hell ( which is how I'm seeing it just now) will be gratefully received.

 

 

[floridarob]

I'll stop in Cancun for  couple of nights on my way back home from Brazil next week....I always stay downtown. I haven't been to the bars much lately, because is usually twinky guys looking for other young guys and I learned awhile ago that nothing good happens after midnight, like in the movie Gremlins.

There are some hustlers looking on Grindr and also https://mx.mileroticos.com/escorts-gay/quintana-roo/cancun/
Some guys are asking 1500-2000 pesos, like 75-100 usd, which is pricy for Mexico, but the tourists and Mexicans with money pay it. I generally like to be in the 600-800 peso range and guys that charge my rate are usually more humble.

The 2 bars downtown are 11:11 & "Laser Hot Bar beer & queer"

My advice is beware of your wallet, expert pickpockets....don't drink alcohol, stick with beer, the alcohol is usually pirated (not original) and you won't feel very good the next day....other than that, you'll be fine at the bars as long as you know the exchange rate and know how to count. I always ask the price of anything before I order and I try to pay as I go along, don't run a tab.

You'll like the cenotes and chitzen....Mexico is a fun place, Cancun has beautiful beaches and there is a public bus that takes you downtown to the hotel zone for like 12 pesos each way.

Restaurants, the only one I try to make it to when I'm there is Patravali Indian, is pretty good and there is no good Indian where I live. Maybe, Taqueria el poblano since you're downtown, there are 2, I usually bring my tricks to the smaller one, on Tulipanes  the waiters know I'm a whore and take good care of us, but the food is better at the bigger one on Tulum...both are good for people watching. The hotel zone has all types of food at Miami prices.

Taxi's work on flat fees, some are honest and will tell you the correct price right away, others take advantage of tourists and give stupid prices....if it seems expensive, walk away and stop a different taxi.

What hotel are you staying in, there's a lot of shit hotels downtown....🤔

[Phoenixblue]

I would like to thank you all for your wonderful tips and advice, very grateful

Just to clarify, the only country I visited in S. America was Bolivia and that was long ago. I am trying to organize a trip to be a sort of beginners introduction to that part of the world for sightseeing but more for men. I had seen the reports about the gay scene in Colombia and from that am very excited about the guys there! To be honest I only speak very basic Spanish and no Portuguese so that, I guess, would be an issue I must deal with. 

I have been to Thailand numerous times and while I certainly love the guys there, I really am also attracted to Latin men I want to have a nice time with men from there. It is something I have been planning to do for a long time. I don't really have any expectations, just take things as they come.

Once again, thank you to all that took time to reply to me give me help and advice. I appreciate your kindness!

 

[Phoenixblue]

To be honest I want to visit S. America to see guys like this! where can I find them ?

 

 

[floridarob]

Brazil and Colombia are best bet, least expensive options....they exist in Mexico also, but might be from other countries....including Venezuela but come with a higher price tag since they are not in their natural habitat 😉

[Riobard]

28 minutes ago, Phoenixblue said:

To be honest I want to visit S. America to see guys like this! where can I find them ?

 

 

Well … this one? Copenhagen. However, not the chocolate shop chain in Brazil, Kopenhagen.

But speaking of newbies in candy shops, you are asking very general questions that have elusive answers. Handsome fit young men are a dime a dozen anywhere, but not priced like that. First things first: are your aspirations hiring or scoring? You have managed to evade attempts at queries about expectations. There is a huge difference and we get tired of second- guessing what advice would be helpful. 

[Mavica]

1 hour ago, Phoenixblue said:

I would like to thank you all for your wonderful tips and advice, very grateful

Just to clarify, the only country I visited in S. America was Bolivia and that was long ago. I am trying to organize a trip to be a sort of beginners introduction to that part of the world for sightseeing but more for men. I had seen the reports about the gay scene in Colombia and from that am very excited about the guys there! To be honest I only speak very basic Spanish and no Portuguese so that, I guess, would be an issue I must deal with. 

I have been to Thailand numerous times and while I certainly love the guys there, I really am also attracted to Latin men I want to have a nice time with men from there. It is something I have been planning to do for a long time. I don't really have any expectations, just take things as they come.

Once again, thank you to all that took time to reply to me give me help and advice. I appreciate your kindness!

 

Rio de Janeiro is a beautiful place to visit.  But you will not know what you don't know, and traveling solo that places you at some degree of risk if you're not careful wandering about the city.  I can't think of a better or easier place for a newbie to find handsome guys than the saunas with garotos in Rio.  Go to one or more of the saunas, do some shopping from the oftentimes large groups of available guys and have sex right then and there; no need to invite someone back to your hotel or apartment.  You and a garoto will figure out how to handle the transaction and the reception staff will be able to communicate with you.

There are many trip and other reports about Rio archived here on these forums, as well as information about Colombia (which I have not visited).  If you haven't already done so, take the time to read through the treasury of excellent information.

When are you thinking of making this trip?

[xpaulo]

5 hours ago, Phoenixblue said:

guys like this! where can I find them ?

He reminds me of some of the men I saw in Buenos Aires. A guy working at an airline counter at the airport in Buenos Aires was the most beautiful man I've ever seen based purely on facial features. Looked like your guy in the video, but with incredible blue eyes, maybe slightly darker skin and more defined cheek bones. Ten years ago and I still remember him. Can't remember what the counter person looked like for a flight I took last week. I'm not sure the blue eyes were legit, are there contacts that will do that. If they were natural, then wow did he ever luck out on genetics. He gave me my boarding pass and I didn't want to leave.

[NIrishGuy]

17 hours ago, floridarob said:

I'll stop in Cancun for  couple of nights on my way back home from Brazil next week....
What hotel are you staying in, there's a lot of shit hotels downtown....🤔

Thanks for all the very useful info there which I'll certainly take note of.

The hustlers I guess I'll have to pass on this time as I've been reminded by my BF that we're going away for a "normal" holiday together and NOT one of my whoring trips  you know ! - "apparently !"  😞 lol  But the bars I will check out for sure.  

And as you say yes I'll try and watch the wallet and all that stuff too 😞 

Actually once I started reading up with so many people saying the same thing I started instantly regretting my choice of even going near Mexico as no matter what i was reading it was all just negative and about scams, robberies, staff with bad attitudes and crap but expensive accommodation, but I'll give it a whirl and just hope it's more a case of bad reviews from the type of people who like to leave bad reviews on Tripadvisor and the like rather than it "actually" being the case - hopefully.

We're staying fairly central on Av Tulum 4, which if I've did my homework correctly looks reasonably central to downtown and the bars etc and hopefully shouldn't be "terrible".  But I do get what you mean re some of the hotels being crap. From the pics you think hmmm maybe, not to bad, and then you read the reviews and OMG do the people who own the hotels not read them, nor care !?  Is there just THAT much business in Cancun they just dont have to give a shit perhaps  about the condition of their places or what seemingly genuine issues multiple people had raised, as that's certainly what comes across time and time and time when reading multiple different hotel review site for hotels there.  As I mentioned I think Bali / Thailand etc has just spoiled me in terms of value for money and pleasant ( on the face of it at least) service. 

And I'm with you on the Miami prices along the hotel zone, I couldn't believe my eyes some of the hotel and tour prices etc for the dates we were travelling  - and they weren't even THAT exceptional in terms of some of the hotels either.  I'm more surprised that Americans, who usually expect and demand a reasonably high standard of service and pricing still all seem to flock to Cancun, there's obviously some golden nugget of fun there that I'm missing so far, but we'll see I guess.  I'm trying to go with an open mind ( not that you'd think that from reading my above lol) and as always a trip is just what you make it so Im sure it'll be just fine  ( after I leave my three spare credit cards and second wallet in my hotel safe in case I'm robbed when out at night that is just in case perhaps ! lol)

[NIrishGuy]

19 hours ago, floridarob said:

There are some hustlers on.......https://mx.mileroticos.com/escorts-gay/quintana-roo/cancun/🤔

Damn ! So after just clicking on your above hooker link just for a nosey you understand, unfortunately I've just realised that I may already be becoming down with something on day 5 of the trip perhaps and feeling a bit ill on perhaps the afternoon of one of our beach days and perhaps needing to  go back to my room "to lie down for a few hours" ( cough cough  - hmmm you think I'll get away with it!?? ) lol    

( I AM joking, if I were to even consider that I would just be open about it and man up and face the wrath and silent treatment of a Flipino scorned for the next two days and take it like a man  - and then sleep with one eye open for the next five days after that!  )

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, NIrishGuy said:

( I AM joking, if I were to even consider that I would just be open about it and man up and face the wrath and silent treatment of a Flipino scorned for the next two days and take it like a man  - and then sleep with one eye open for the next five days after that!  )

Or do a 3-way with him.....Pinoy's are the biggest whores, not in public of course, behind closed doors 😳

[Phoenixblue]

12 hours ago, Riobard said:

Well … this one? Copenhagen. However, not the chocolate shop chain in Brazil, Kopenhagen.

But speaking of newbies in candy shops, you are asking very general questions that have elusive answers. Handsome fit young men are a dime a dozen anywhere, but not priced like that. First things first: are your aspirations hiring or scoring? You have managed to evade attempts at queries about expectations. There is a huge difference and we get tired of second- guessing what advice would be helpful. 

I apologize if I sounded vague. I am a newbie when it comes to S. America that's true.

I certainly am not looking for scoring if that means free time with men, it's only one month after all. To be more precise I am looking for hiring and I appreciate the advice I got thus far from Gentlemen here. I'll look for GPs from saunas in Colombia or Brazil.  I'll look up the travel reports from the area and hopefully gain more insight.

Thank you for your help!

 

[Phoenixblue]

12 hours ago, Mavica said:

Rio de Janeiro is a beautiful place to visit.  But you will not know what you don't know, and traveling solo that places you at some degree of risk if you're not careful wandering about the city.  I can't think of a better or easier place for a newbie to find handsome guys than the saunas with garotos in Rio.  Go to one or more of the saunas, do some shopping from the oftentimes large groups of available guys and have sex right then and there; no need to invite someone back to your hotel or apartment.  You and a garoto will figure out how to handle the transaction and the reception staff will be able to communicate with you.

There are many trip and other reports about Rio archived here on these forums, as well as information about Colombia (which I have not visited).  If you haven't already done so, take the time to read through the treasury of excellent information.

When are you thinking of making this trip?

Thank you very much for your help. I agree that Brazil is more suited for first timers visiting S America looking for fun with men.  I will certainly look through the travel reports posted on the forum.

I plan to travel late February/ early March.

[Phoenixblue]

13 hours ago, floridarob said:

Brazil and Colombia are best bet, least expensive options....they exist in Mexico also, but might be from other countries....including Venezuela but come with a higher price tag since they are not in their natural habitat 😉

Thank you @floridarob!

I have now narrowed my search to either Colombia or Brazil. Do you think that for a month's time trip I can cover both countries in one trip or shall I just stick to exploring one since I'm a newbie?

[Riobard]

2 hours ago, Phoenixblue said:

Thank you @floridarob!

I have now narrowed my search to either Colombia or Brazil. Do you think that for a month's time trip I can cover both countries in one trip or shall I just stick to exploring one since I'm a newbie?

I’ll chime in and suggest Brazil, as a punter having travelled to both, and this winter will be a few months splitting the two. Easier access in Brazil to the types to hire you like, as our tastes overlap somewhat. There’s essentially only one provider sauna in Colombia (St Moritz in Bogotá) analogous to the several on tap in Brazil, and the few curated private massage spa venues that don’t have overlapping club/food features in Brazil will also yield more of your type. Brazil does not have a strip club with private dances, whereas Bogotá has Gigolo Erotic House right above St Moritz.

A month in Brazil can fly quickly by particularly if you do more than one city. The problem will possibly be never visiting Colombia as FOMO may take over when considering subsequent bypassing of Brazil. 

Later today, I’ll try to provide some examples of Brazil tantrica massage spa team images to see if I have interpreted your tastes accurately. They exist in the public domain. In contrast, photos of sauna garotos de programa are discouraged. You will also find escort sites through your searches here. 

[Riobard]

I have Yellow Fever vaccination document, so I don’t recall the ins and outs of whether mixing and matching Colombia & Brazil necessitates such. I don’t think so, but you cannot enter some countries without YF vaxx after having been in one or the other, or both. For example, Panama which is a common connection for SoAmer. 

[Riobard]

Addendum: Technically I will require Yellow Fever vacc doc travelling from Brazil to Colombia but not vice versa. First time in years I will need to remember to bring it. And I will need to complete Colombia CheckMig four times. 

[Riobard]

A few Sampa massage spa examples, mostly a bit younger and smaller than my preference but cute for sure. Older and bigger guys can be viewed. For me, younger smaller guys must have the face; physique models all ages or older gym-built guys: really handsome a bonus but not critical. Steroidal acne a turn off.

Below images from InHouse Agencia, Gold Therapy, and XtudioLotus. Grand Spazio Masculino not depicted. #3 = #9 (photo chronology gremlins). Provider turnover (inventory, not necessarily position) is rapid. I have only been to InHouse. Secure settings, whereas escort sites have plentiful options but more AYOR. 

[floridarob]

10 hours ago, Phoenixblue said:

Thank you @floridarob!

I have now narrowed my search to either Colombia or Brazil. Do you think that for a month's time trip I can cover both countries in one trip or shall I just stick to exploring one since I'm a newbie?

Can do both, but like Riobard said...go to Colombia 1st because vice versa, you need Yellow Fever Vaccination.

Sao Paulo, Rio (watch dates for Carnaval, VERY pricey) Bogota and Medellin, or just Bogota...I feel it's less dangerous. If you are connecting in Panama at all, try to fit a couple of days there, very cute guys, no real commercial scene and more expensive, but worth it if it's on your way. 

[xpaulo]

12 hours ago, Riobard said:

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They remind me of young shirtless hockey players, clean cut and hard bodies.... but maybe not 6'3'' like a lot of the players are these days. It's funny how the NHL players have changed a lot from the flabby coke and booze days of the seventies. I suspect the European player influence on the league. The younger ones these days work out a lot, have healthy boring diets and take a month off at the end of the season to party and such and then back on the fitness regime. Apparently apart from frequent gangbangs, although gang rapes might be a more accurate description, they work almost constantly on their skills and fitness beginning at around age 13 so their teen years aren't much fun and always stressful as they fight to get to the top.