Pointe and 117 Rio october 2022

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

Part 1

First of all, I want to say that this little report on my recent stay in Rio will teach nothing to those of you who already know this city and its places of perdition.

 

For the others, keep in mind that these are subjective assessments and that everyone will experience their stay in this city in their own way.

 

Finally, I apologize for the delay in writing this review. Since my return, work has again taken up most of my time.

 

The neighborhood of my hotel

 

I had chosen a hotel in the Leme district. I did not regret my choice. This slightly boboized district is pleasant. Like almost everywhere in Rio, there are plenty of places to eat or have a drink. There is no insecurity there.

 

In fact, Leme is the northern end of Copacabana. If you are a walker, it takes 20 to 25 minutes to get to Pointe 202 and 10 minutes to the nearest metro station: cardeal arcoverde. I walk slowly. The metro will take you quickly either to tip 202 or to 117.

 

The beach is much less densely frequented than copacabana, including by thieves. I swam several times leaving my things on the beach.

 

Travel

 

Walking is very pleasant in Rio and the neighborhoods where you can walk safely (until 11 p.m.) are very extensive.

Taxis are honest and cheap ( except airport) 

The metro is convenient and bus even cheaper.

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

Part 2

The places of perdition (point and 117)

I would have liked to try new meio mundo or some cinemas but as it was my first trip I preferred not to spread myself too thin. It was probably a mistake.

 

Prices:

I almost always paid 150 reals to the boys. However, two offered me the pass at 100 euros to convince me to choose them. Others asked me for 200 because they felt that I liked them very much. I did not accept, they settled for 150. I think Brazilian customers pay a maximum of 100 reals. I've seen some only give out a 50 ticket. So if you want to bargain you can get, I think, the 100 euro pass. I don't like to negotiate and 150 seemed fine to me.

 

When a boy interests you, you ask (or he asks) for a room key at reception.  They give you the key with condom and gel. You pay the boy immediately after the pass. While he returns the key, you go and get his money from the changing room.

When there is a crowd, you have to wait your turn to access the cabins.

 

When you leave the establishment you pay the entrance + the use of rooms + the drinks you have consumed.

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

Part 3

Places (services, atmosphere and cleanliness)

 

The two places include a reception, a room with broadcast of heterosexual porn (+ mainstream tv at 117) 2 bars (1 indoor bar + 1 smoking bar at 117) (1 bar on the ground floor and 1 bar on the 2nd floor at the tip) 1 sauna or steam room (I haven't tried it I hate it) the pointy jacuzzi doesn't work and that's good.

 

As for the musical atmosphere, the peak passed on the screens of the bar on the ground floor of English-language video clips from the last 5 decades. Almost always the same (I still have the remix of it's not right it's ok by Whitney Houston in my ears) which give the place a very particular, nostalgic and pleasant mark.

At 117, nondescript music in the rather depressing and freezing indoor bar and more Brazilian music in the outdoor bar where young people pretend to have fun.

The rooms are air-conditioned with a TV that broadcasts porn, most often with a shower, they smell more or less good. The fitted sheets are changed between each client.

 

Customers

Mostly Brazilian regulars. They are the ones who bring these places to life. In any case during my stay, very few foreigners, a few Anglo-Saxons, Spanish speakers and French speakers. But always in the minority. My shyness prevented me from exchanging as much as I would have liked with other customers, but a certain complicity was born with a Brazilian who I initially took for a German.

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

The staff

Unlike some divas on this site, I can't brag about knowing the owners of the place. But they were always correct and anxious to make sure everything was going well for me. The Pointe 202 team pushes consumption a little more, but nothing unbearable. The bartender of this place is a simple and friendly guy. He prepares a very good caipirinha. Overall the teams are friendly with the possible exception of a masseur at pointe who seemed too hungry and a short-legged 117 bartender.

The staff is mixed. In the two saunas, women take care of the surveillance of the rooms and the change of sheets. The locker rooms are watched by a man (probably a former gigolo) at the pointe and a very skinny woman (or trans) at 117. Both are adorable and watch very well. It happened to me ( having drunk a little too much ) to forget the keys of my locker on the door and when I realized it I had a big fright. But the man watching had picked it up and returned it to me with a big smile. There was absolutely nothing missing in my locker.

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

Part 5

The boys

They are really numerous. I did not stay long enough to know if the impression of always seeing the same faces could arise. As for me, I have always been surprised by new appearances.

They are young, shapely and often very well hung (not all of them).

Do not expect to find the diversity that you can find in European cities or the splendours of the rim of the Mediterranean. But lot of cute guys most often very courteous.

There are three dominant physical types:

- blacks and mixed black (from very dark to very very light)

- The same ones with a hint of Indian blood (the ones I would call very Cariocas)

- Typical Portuguese whites but rarely hairy. Often with a hipster beard that I found a little old fashioned.

You will find cute bodybuilders, tall skinny guys with a third leg … 

All very clean. Smokers even use mouthwash before kissing you.

They are very open-minded in the cabin, generally doing what was planned before entering the cabin. They kiss and I haven't had my ass licked so much in 30 years.

On the other hand, they are very bad suckers of nipples.

Those who speak English are to be avoided, they are the stickiest.

Some impressed me a little more than others. Both meet at Pointe 202:

- The first one I will call the cowboy. Boorish, some would say vulgar. Sexy, gorgeous body, portuguese peasant face. He was acting like an elephant in a china shop. Always wearing long nylon shorts. Natural hair. The other boys looked at him with contempt because he wasn’t as distinguished as them. I loved him, he was divine in bed.

- The second, tall, thin and muscular. Metis. Literally sniffed me when we entered the cabin. A great fucker.

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

Part 6

My regrets

 

I will return to Brazil. Rio is a fantastic city and it's so comfortable to go to the brothel for cute boys (although I regret that it's only saunas, I prefer places where the boys are dressed).

However, I wish I had been more fearless and tried adventures in other places or on the street. It was my first trip to this country which was totally unknown to me.

2 little things make me think that I missed out on some pleasures:

Coming back from Cordovado, I took the bus. It wasn't really full. So I was able to sit down. A young white man with black eyes and hair, dressed like a footballer, got on the bus. Our eyes met for a very short time. But it seems that was enough for him to understand who I was. He stood at my level rubbing his upper thigh close to his cock against my hand for 10 minutes until he came down. The passenger sitting next to me was very embarrassed. Maybe I should have gone down with the young man… who knows?

The hairdresser was wonderful. A quality of care that is no longer found in Europe. He trimmed my eyebrows and the hairs of my ears.. . In addition, very beautiful. Mediterranean blond. I went to see him 3 times. Each time he rubbed his penis a little more against me, each time I paid him a little more.

All this makes me think that I should have been a little more intrepid.

that’s all

sorry for my english but i have no intention of improving it 

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

Prices in real of course 

[floridarob]

Even though we've battled a bit, nice review. 

Don't regret not going to street cruising or some other places....you don't need to have the headaches/problems some of those places bring.

[sydneyboy1]

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

Even though we've battled a bit, nice review. 

Don't regret not going to street cruising or some other places....you don't need to have the headaches/problems some of those places bring.

How very true! Despite what some people try to make out Brazil is very dangerous and foreigners are sitting ducks. My advice to anyone visiting Brazil is stick to the rentboy saunas which are fabulous and have a great and safe time.

[Latbear4blk]

5 hours ago, Heba as-sa3udeya said:

Part 6

My regrets

 

I will return to Brazil. Rio is a fantastic city and it's so comfortable to go to the brothel for cute boys (although I regret that it's only saunas, I prefer places where the boys are dressed).

However, I wish I had been more fearless and tried adventures in other places or on the street. It was my first trip to this country which was totally unknown to me.

2 little things make me think that I missed out on some pleasures:

Coming back from Cordovado, I took the bus. It wasn't really full. So I was able to sit down. A young white man with black eyes and hair, dressed like a footballer, got on the bus. Our eyes met for a very short time. But it seems that was enough for him to understand who I was. He stood at my level rubbing his upper thigh close to his cock against my hand for 10 minutes until he came down. The passenger sitting next to me was very embarrassed. Maybe I should have gone down with the young man… who knows?

The hairdresser was wonderful. A quality of care that is no longer found in Europe. He trimmed my eyebrows and the hairs of my ears.. . In addition, very beautiful. Mediterranean blond. I went to see him 3 times. Each time he rubbed his penis a little more against me, each time I paid him a little more.

All this makes me think that I should have been a little more intrepid.

that’s all

sorry for my english but i have no intention of improving it 

Unlike others who advise you against taking risks, I am glad you seem willing to go beyond the saunas. I feel the same, but the saunas are so good that in my short visits I do not have much time left to explore anything else.

However, if you are willing and able to explore relationships beyond the cabins, sauna boys are an amazing gate to a Brazil most foreigners cannot experience. 

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

One of them recommended me abrico beach 

a nudist beach 

didn’t try

[Latbear4blk]

4 hours ago, Heba as-sa3udeya said:

One of them recommended me abrico beach 

a nudist beach 

didn’t try

You missed something there. The place is beautiful even if you do not have sex when visiting.

https://ilikepinga.com/2020/12/01/abrico-beach/

 

[Mavica]

Thank you for returning to post your trip report.

[Latbear4blk]

Man! How do they say in English? You need to get the hell out of the high horse. This crusade of yours is leading you off track. 

[Mavica]

On 11/12/2022 at 3:13 PM, Heba as-sa3udeya said:

Part 1

First of all, I want to say that this little report on my recent stay in Rio will teach nothing to those of you who already know this city and its places of perdition.

Once again, thank you for posting your report.  I have comments to some of your remarks:

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I had chosen a hotel in the Leme district. I did not regret my choice. This slightly boboized district is pleasant. Like almost everywhere in Rio, there are plenty of places to eat or have a drink. There is no insecurity there.

On one of my two-week visits to the city I rented a beachfront apartment in Copacabana, several streets from Leme.  On that visit and during others, I walked around Leme.  Smallish in size, it's considered an upper middle-class section of the city.  I won't describe the area as "There is no insecurity there." because I think there are varying degrees of safety risk throughout Rio.  I observed many tourists, foreign and national, who wandered about and had lodging in Leme.

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The beach is much less densely frequented than copacabana, including by thieves. I swam several times leaving my things on the beach.

I haven't swam at the Leme beach but leaving anything of value behind as I entered the water isn't something I'd personally do.   

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Walking is very pleasant in Rio and the neighborhoods where you can walk safely (until 11 p.m.) are very extensive.

I'm a walker when I visit Rio.  I've extensively explored Centro, Copacabana, Ipanema, Urca, Catete, Botaforo, Flamingo and Niteroi on foot ... but I don't walk in certain sections of the city after dark or on streets where many others aren't also walking or aren't well-lit.  After one visit I don't think it can be said "you can walk safely" as a general statement (particularly in Centro and Lapa).  The challenge for us when we're newbies is we don't know what we don't know.

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I almost always paid 150 reals to the boys. 

Being able to select from a stable of very handsome young men for the price equivalent of US$30 is just one of the reasons so many of us enjoy visiting Rio.  The relatively low cost helps to offset the oftentimes high cost of airfare.  At least it is for me.

In addition to paying the young men, before leaving for the night I always give a tip to the individual who takes care of the locker room, hands-out the sandals/flip-flops and towels, etc.  

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When there is a crowd, you have to wait your turn to access the cabins.

I don't like to visit on the free cabin nights.  Lots of competition for the guys and when I select one I've often had to wait an hour before getting into a room.  I also think the rooms aren't cleaned well those busy nights.  

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1 sauna or steam room (I haven't tried it I hate it)... my shyness prevented me from exchanging as much as I would have liked with other customers 

I always use the sauna/steam rooms.  When I lived in Mexico City - where gay and straight saunas are plentiful - I'd go to one once weekly.  Once, while in the sauna/steam at 117 I had a lengthy discussion with a Brazilian (in English) who discussed at length the history of saunas/steam baths and clients having sex with handsome young men ... starting with the Greeks ever so long ago.  It was a great opportunity.  Other than that opportunity, I've spoken with only several foreigner customers over the years.  I don't patronize the saunas with garotos to socialize with other customers.

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The rooms are air-conditioned with a TV that broadcasts porn, most often with a shower, they smell more or less good. The fitted sheets are changed between each client.

I don't like the straight porn on the video monitors, because, my experience has been, most of the garotos are focusing on the straight porn sometimes more than me.  Maybe they're having a better time watching the video, than having sex with me!  😁

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Do not expect to find the diversity that you can find in European cities or the splendours of the rim of the Mediterranean. But lot of cute guys most often very courteous.

I'm supposing our assessments are relative to our prior experiences.  For me, I see a lot of diversity amongst the garotos.  

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They are very open-minded in the cabin, generally doing what was planned before entering the cabin. They kiss and I haven't had my ass licked so much in 30 years.

What I don't know won't bother me.  However, if I knew a garoto was rimming customers ... I would not select him, no matter how awesome he looked. 

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Those who speak English are to be avoided, they are the stickiest.

I don't understand why you think that.  What experience with an English speaking garoto makes you think that way?  Now, I can't think of many garotos I've been with who were fluent English speakers.  Many I've been with do know some limited English.  I've been with some who are Spanish speakers, and I can easily communicate with them.  I know relatively few words in Portuguese as spoken in Brazil.

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Rio is a fantastic city and it's so comfortable to go to the brothel for cute boys (although I regret that it's only saunas, I prefer places where the boys are dressed).

I'm just the opposite.  I prefer places ... be they in Rio or in Thailand ... where the young men are naked,or nearly so.  I want to see as much of a young man's body as I can before making my choice.   

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However, I wish I had been more fearless and tried adventures in other places or on the street. It was my first trip to this country which was totally unknown to me.

For a first-timer I think you did well.  I've never thought of Rio as being a place to be fearless.  If I'd lived there, if I had friends who live there with whom I was staying, I'd take some chances.  But it's a destination that's not without safety risks.  I'm not yet ready to pick-up a guy in Campo de Santana and invite him to one of the nearby hotels, and certainly not to my apartment!  Over the years, I've developed a sense of comfortability in places and at times in the city ... but I remain cautious.

Thank you.

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

Thank you Mavica for those courteous comments and precious complements .
 

For the safety, i must specify that i dressed in a simple way as some here as advised me ( but always elegant). So i was never really spotted as a tourist. 
At beach « my things » were just some clothes and some money. Never had problem. I’m used to travelling alone so i’m always used to keeping an eye on my stuff when i’m in water whatever the country.

i’m with you always giving a tip for the surveillance of the locker room.

As i said before my knowledge of french and italian helped me to progress very quickly in portuguese. It’s a wonderful language.

i had the feeling that when a boy spoke english he insisted more on a pass and that i had a hard time getting rid of it. But that’s subjective.

for the rimming… you’re right. But sometimes senses prevail over reason ( not sure it makes sense in english)

 

 

 

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

In the city where i live i go to sex-shops ( increasingly rare) where in can find G4p from eastern Europe, gypsies, arabs, black african or carribean etc…that’s what i call diversity 

[TotallyOz]

Enough of this crazy posting. One poster prohibited from posting permanently. His content removed from this thread.

[Riobard]

Just so I have this right …. tropes like this (screenshots follow) central to the conflict that evidently arose, essentially won the day when implausibly denied as tasteless by their sources and when subsequently intensely pushed back by at least one particular persistent objector? I wouldn’t view individual exile as punitive or the key outcome; rather, a strong point made by a fiercely intelligent protestor further underscored: critical race theory has a long way to go in widespread practical application. 

[Mavica]

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[Latbear4blk]

25 minutes ago, Mavica said:

It's not just one discussion, one topic.  The individual in question was the most prolific promoter of false information, unfounded accusations, ad hominem attacks, hate-speak and/or trolling across the broad span of the forums, from what I've observed when reading through current and archived discussions.  Each of us participates here via the good graces of the website owner who has developed and published terms of participation and personal conduct of which we are expected to comply.

 Guidelines - Gay Guides Forum

You also need to calm down. The individual in question was a respected member that got obsessed with trolls after some bad personal experiences. He properly denounced racist remarks and many fabrications by some posters and some real trolls. 

This obsession led him to loose his balance, his last deleted post was indeed inappropriate and filled with assumptions. But this is an unfortunate outcome. I hope he can recover his good senses and return.

[alvnv]

21 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

You also need to calm down. The individual in question was a respected member that got obsessed with trolls after some bad personal experiences. He properly denounced racist remarks and many fabrications by some posters and some real trolls. 

This obsession led him to loose his balance, his last deleted post was indeed inappropriate and filled with assumptions. But this is an unfortunate outcome. I hope he can recover his good senses and return.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

[Tartegogo]

Thanks for the report.
And don't worry about not teaching some of us anything new. For those of us who are not able to go to Rio right now, it is very nice to hear that things are still running as we remember them. 

[Heba as-sa3udeya]

Thank you tartegogo for coming back to the purpose of this topic 

[BlkSuperman]

On 11/12/2022 at 3:19 PM, Heba as-sa3udeya said:

Prices:

I almost always paid 150 reals to the boys. However, two offered me the pass at 100 euros to convince me to choose them. Others asked me for 200 because they felt that I liked them very much. I did not accept, they settled for 150. I think Brazilian customers pay a maximum of 100 reals. I've seen some only give out a 50 ticket. So if you want to bargain you can get, I think, the 100 euro pass. I don't like to negotiate and 150 seemed fine to me.

 

 

Good info here. I was wondering what the guys were charging in the saunas now. Price hasn't changed since we've gone in 2 years.

Good to know they're accepting between $100R-$150R.

With the amount of sexy garatos who will be there for new years eve, when were there, I'm sure they will accept these amounts because the garatos will b packed in the sauna like sardines to make money during one of the most active times of the year.

 

Thank you.