The return of Super A

[reader]

I was walking along the Road New Twlight bar is on when three guys stationed by the side of road approached me. “Many new boys, come see”. They gestured toward what at one time formed the lead in the trifecta of sleaze—Super A, Golden Cock and Nature  Boy. 

Sleaze. Really hadn’t seen much signs of it since returning so as the whore monger that inhabits all of us here I felt duty bound to check it out.

Stepping through the door of Super A was like time travel, returning to my last visit over a dozen years prior. It was discomforting to see how nothing had changed: sofas to the right, tiny stage to the left and bar in back. Two customers were sitting with guys. I sat down in the unoccupied sofa and order a beer (200). 

Soon the show, more of a lineup actually, got under way. One guy stood on the stage and moved his arms slightly from side to side. Seven boys in street clothes stood to his right doing nothing, all with the look, “what am I doing here.” 

The same thought crossed my mind but I cautioned myself to give it a chance. Four or five minutes passed and nothing changed. The mamasan signaled to everyone to sit down. That prompted me to pay my tab and make for the door behind an Asian customer toting his bottle of beer.

If I felt anything as I walked away it was sympathy for those who made up the ragtag crew whose vacant expressions spoke volumes.

It can be challenging to get a new bar up and running, and sometimes too much of a one. But never under estimate the sleaze factor to prevail in the end.

 

[vinapu]

one more bar always welcomed

we see how they will do.

What type of guys they have ? Some muscle or just skinny twinks ? 

[reader]

17 minutes ago, vinapu said:

 

What type of guys they have ? Some muscle or just skinny twinks ? 

They didn’t appear necessarily skinny or necessarily muscled. A few wore jackets. Best useful term that comes to mind is boys next door, one of who looked too young to drive.

[vinapu]

jackets? they had snow in that soi or what?

But for 200 / drink I'd be tempted to check. I offed one boy from there over years but he was good enough so I repeated the feast day or two later so generally have good memories from there. Once me and ChristianPFC  were stuck there during deluge so at least it was  roof over their heads and pretext to do some body serach of guys seating with us

[floridarob]

The 2 years before Covid, is where I think I did most of my off's

[Londoner]

Super A was the first bar I left without finishing- or even starting- my drink. It was 1997 and my first ever visit to Bangkok. In those days, if memory serves, it was upstairs, above its later location. At the signal from the mamasan , as I sat down-the only customer- the guys, about twenty of them, removed their briefs and started pleasuring themselves. They were doing it for me, for me alone. Embarrassingly, I was the centre of attention.

It was all too much for an innocent newbie such as me and so I made my excuses and left.  

[PeterRS]

On 10/12/2022 at 10:47 AM, vinapu said:

one more bar always welcomed

1 hour ago, Londoner said:

Super A was the first bar I left without finishing- or even starting- my drink. It was 1997 and my first ever visit to Bangkok.

I suspect when @Londoner visited that sleaze joint it was located upstairs. For some years in its pre-covid incarnation it had moved to ground level and was virtually identical to @reader's description. In fact @reader's description almost exactly fits my memory of visiting several years ago. Sofas which looked as they accommodated far more bugs than those who sat on them. Three boys on a stage, almost always fully dressed, and making little or no movement. A few others fully dressed sitting on bar stools on the right of the stage eyes glued to their phones and a few to the left on other sofas eyes also glued to phones. 

If you decided any of the boys was worth a drink, he would come and sit beside you. Little or no conversation but jeans might come off and he would sit in shorts. He would not object to a bit of hanky panky. Occasionally a dick would appear especially if a second drink was purchased. At least drinks were not expensive. But not one of the boys looked as though they either wanted to be there or enjoyed being there. Certainly, providing enjoyment for customers seemed very far from their minds. Nature Boys and the now dead Golden Cock were a lot more fun for those looking for sleaze.

[TMax]

30 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

Nature Boys and the now dead Golden Cock were a lot more fun for those looking for sleaze.

I never had the pleasure or displeasure of visiting Super A but talking of sleaze, I am hoping that since Golden Cock has moved to Nature Boy that the sleaze element is still there? I would love to pay them a visit on my next trip for a bit of harmless fun in the bar. 

[reader]

7 hours ago, PeterRS said:

Sofas which looked as they accommodated far more bugs than those who sat on them. Three boys on a stage, almost always fully dressed, and making little or no movement. A few others fully dressed sitting on bar stools on the right of the stage eyes glued to their phones and a few to the left on other sofas eyes also glued to phones. 

If you decided any of the boys was worth a drink, he would come and sit beside you. Little or no conversation but jeans might come off and he would sit in shorts. He would not object to a bit of hanky panky. Occasionally a dick would appear especially if a second drink was purchased. At least drinks were not expensive. But not one of the boys looked as though they either wanted to be there or enjoyed being there. Certainly, providing enjoyment for customers seemed very far from their minds. Nature Boys and the now dead Golden Cock were a lot more fun for those looking for sleaze.

The good news is that the sofas are now vinyl. Other than that your recollections are spot on.

6 hours ago, TMax said:

I never had the pleasure or displeasure of visiting Super A but talking of sleaze, I am hoping that since Golden Cock has moved to Nature Boy that the sleaze element is still there? I would love to pay them a visit on my next trip for a bit of harmless fun in the bar. 

They had a few guys sitting outside that same night so I believe you’ll be in luck. 

 

[floridarob]

5 hours ago, reader said:

The good news is that the sofas are now vinyl. Other than that your recollections are spot on.

They remodeled the place before Covid.......so the description wasn't correct, maybe 4-6 years ago 🙄

[t0oL1]

Is this the place with the stealing kathoey mamasan?

[fedssocr]

I went to Super A once or twice a million years ago. I seem to recall easily feeling the springs of those sofas poking me in the behind.

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, fedssocr said:

I went to Super A once or twice a million years ago. I seem to recall easily feeling the springs of those sofas poking me in the behind.

This is why one paid 200 for drink, not 400 like everywhere else

[jason1975]

200 baht for a drink is a steal! I hope drink for boy is small price!

[reader]

Same same 

[Min]

Here is a picture taken today

[Londoner]

Wasn't there a bar opposite, with the same ownership, back in prehistoric times? I recall it being considered even more sleazy than Super A in my Thai Scene gay guide circa 1997.

[floridarob]

I arrived BKK today from Pattaya, staying at the Tarntawan and went near Super A to do laundry. While I was waiting outside the laundry place, the Mamasan (owner??) screamed when you saw me , I have that affect on people, she offered me a water and said she's only been open 2 weeks now.

I finished late with my friend from NYC and didn't realize everything was closing at 1am....so I walked to Super A, they were closed also....but guess who was open....Golden Cock/Nature boys.

Just a fraction of it's former self, but they stay open until whenever.....with locals and other working boys stopping by, I'm told.

There was a guy I went with before COVID, had a couple of drinks and he came back to my hotel.....I like the sleeze bars more than Dreamboys ....and places like that. The guys are more appreciative and really work for their money 😉

[PeterRS]

13 hours ago, Londoner said:

Wasn't there a bar opposite, with the same ownership, back in prehistoric times? I recall it being considered even more sleazy than Super A in my Thai Scene gay guide circa 1997.

There was indeed. It was a bit larger and had more boys but I do not recall its being more sleazy. I believe its name was Super Lek. But there was also a far larger bar at the end of that soi that was still going in the mid-2000s and I cannot remember its name. Perhaps that was Super Lek.

[GWMinUS]

53 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

There was indeed. It was a bit larger and had more boys but I do not recall its being more sleazy. I believe its name was Super Lek. But there was also a far larger bar at the end of that soi that was still going in the mid-2000s and I cannot remember its name. Perhaps that was Super Lek.

Yes that was Super Lek. It was a larger Show Bar with a stage. And many handsome young guys!! I was taken there on my first trip back in 2003 by a German friend. We both found dates for the Night and several days after... AHHHH the Memories.

[Londoner]

I remember Super Lek but it was farther along the soi and , as GWminUS says, had shows. The one that Michael Notcutt, the estimable author of Thai Scene mentions  was directly opposite Super A and was under the same management. I suspect that it was long gone by 2003.

[colmx]

There was a bar called Khun Sweet Cigar?

1 hour ago, Londoner said:

The one that Michael Notcutt, the estimable author of Thai Scene mentions  was directly opposite Super A and was under the same management. I suspect that it was long gone by 2003.

 

[Londoner]

There was indeed; and a guy there has the honour of being the first ever Bangkok guy that I offed. The bar was in the soi leading to Super Lek....I think.

Surely  there must be an old-timer or two who can inform me as to what the bar directly opposite Super A was called?.

A further memory. I bought the Michael Nottcut  guide in 1995 for my first visit to Thailand. The sleazy bar was given a detailed description. About three or four later an up-dated version was published which I still have. The bar in question is not mentioned. 

[billyhouston]

Khun Sweet Cigar?

 

[Londoner]

AKA Khun Bar. I think it had dropped the "sweet cigar" title. Perhaps a response to Bill Clinton's (alleged) proclivities.

I suspect this subject may be boring some readers and so, as a final comment dragged unwillingly from  memory, I recall that the name of the  bar in question was related  to that of  Super A. You know, like Super B......