Another trip report, this time from Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

[vinapu]

PART 1, common stuff

This trip came even as surprise to myself. I was planning to go somewhere lese but things did not work so I was left with both free time and untouched travel fund allotted for that trip not to even mention desire to travel.

 So I decided to look for some last minute options and one of my friends  who actually spent December there suggested Puerto Vallarta in Mexico. Him not being gay did not even realize how illustrious that advise sounded to me in view of supposed vast gay scene there and 273 clicks later my package consisting flight ,  hotel, breakfast and airport transfer in PV both ways was purchased.

 All I had to do was to pack,  get some information both tourist and about the scene and wait few days for an actual flight to take that week long vacation.

 This was my third visit to Mexico but  last being 20 years ago almost to the day and then free from any boy hunting made me  feeling I’m discovering uncharted territory specially that previously I was in different parts of country.

Puerto Vallarta is on Pacific coast in the bottom od quite vast Banderas bay and is quite big city of about 200 000 which was good new meaning there’s something to do if weather interferes.

September  is not a best time to go there according to my information as it is rainy season but it turned much better than expected. City was still full of vacationers , mainly Mexicans, but not crowded, flight both ways was about 2/3 full and rainy season turned quite pleasant with sunny mornings and afternoons, it was raining daily early evening but with exception of one day rain lasted 1-2 hrs max.

One day deluge lasting from 6 pm to at least 3 am, perhaps longer but I fall asleep so don’t know did not stop me from having fun, all I need was to wring my shirt before entering strip  bar . More about that later.

 City is neatly divided into 4 parts , from airport going south Marina section , then Hotel Zone changing into Centre and than after crossing the river , Zona Romantica, main entertainment and above everything else, gay entertainment part. Small island between that Zona and Centre has best art crafts market in whole city in my opinion and no souvenir shopping should be  done without visiting there.

Speaking about crafts , after my previous visit to Mexico out of all countries I visited and I visited more than one I rated  that country along with Peru , Morocco , Iran , India and  Myanmar as best place to shop  but not any more as , like almost everywhere cheap, Chinese produced stuff , uniformly looking takes most of space of shelves although still a lot of interesting stuff can be found.

It’s quite possible that situation in other parts of country like Mexico city is much better but PV did not impress me that much when comes to that stuff.

Communication is easy, taxis are everywhere and bus system easy to master with fares of 10 peso = 50 US cents.

 What to do there other than shopping , strolling along Malecon and of course enjoying the ocean’s warm waters ? ( gay part will come in a while ).

Out of 6 full days there I stay in the city for first and last , middle part of stay devoting to day time trips visiting  attractions listed below.

 Vallarta Botanical Gardens, 45 minutes bus trip, fare 1.50 USD one way, cut out of jungle with trekking and  river bathing options with good restaurant on the site. Take bathing suit and towel.

 Jungle trek along the shore from Boca de Tomatlan ( 30 minutes by bus , 50 cents ) taking about 3 hours with possible sunbathing and swimming on few secluded  small beaches , including one I had just to myself for good hour. It end in Las Animas where you can have a lunch and return by boat ( 200 peso = 10 USD ) to Boca and back to PV by bus for another 50 cents.

 Sayulita , small but very popular city with good beach and plenty of attractive boutiques for shoppers and known for good surf. Buses from Wal Mart in Marina part of PV going there every ½ hr , trip takes 1.5 hr one way and cost heart stopping  1.5 $ USD = 30 peso.

 Yelapa, secluded beach village accessible only by boat, 400 peso = 20 USD round trip  from PV. There’s beach , restaurants and 2 waterfalls, smaller close to the village , bigger one requiring 1-1.5 hr trek one way. I opted for big one and it was not a right decision in rainy season as getting there requires crossing the river which after last night rain was quite swollen and I backed up afraid that if something would happen to me , nobody knew as I was there alone. So wait for dry season to get there.

My package included stay in Tropicana hotel   very conveniently located on the beach , just south of Zona Romantica, 15 minutes walk to Anthropology ( soon you will learn why it’s important ), steps from Blue Chairs gay hotel and beach. In short location was excellent. When combing gay sites I learned they hotel is very gay friendly so it made me even more excited. I was assigned room on the last floor with view almost to die for. Room was spacious , had balcony, hotel had not one but two pools. What for with ocean just outside the gate I don’t know but both were occupied heavily during day.

 Disappointing part for hotel of this class and first quarter of  21 century was no internet in the room , only in common areas on ground level. I solved it by buying SIM card with data for 150 peso = 7.5 USD but still was disappointed.

There was no kettle in the room to make tea or coffee , again I solved it by bringing my own immense water heater and metal cup.

 Drinking water was provided but only 2 bottles for the whole stay, not daily.

And final, gay friendly doesn’t mean guest friendly. Guest was required to register, obtain bracelet removed subsequently on departure and host was supposed to pay 300 peso -= 15 USD joiner fee.

All this in place charging 80-130 $ per night !!!

When compared to Thailand  we can see that hotel value there is much , much , much better.

 Still I would stay there again, mainly because of location and view – almost all rooms have unobstructed ocean view but only as part  of package.  Having flight and hotel cost me only 260 $ more than just flight only for the same dates so daily rate was slightly above 30 $, it’s why I’m not complaining.

 Finally before we move to more interesting subject , since this is Mexico we need to mention crime situation and here I have very good news for you. In Puerto Vallarta it is not your concern. I was walking nightly through in parts very deserted streets very late , sometimes at 1-2 pm and never ever had reason for concern.

 On the first day I arrived  in hotel at 7 pm , by time I settled it was dark and went about the completely unknown to me city and it was all peaceful  and quiet , of course with exception of being close to raucous gay and straight bars ( gay ones were noisier ).

 I had one more attraction included in the package , unknown to me. When we landed we were greeted with news that 3 hours earlier there was earthquake. Then when about the city on my fist night I went to restaurant I was told that they may close soon as they expect tsunami warning which did not materialize fortunately.

Finally , deep into night when I arrived from Anthropology   ( soon , soon , relax ) around 3 am  and went to bed before I fell asleep I felt hotel dancing and it lasted good 40 seconds if not more. It was pretty strong  but not strong enough to create damage.  Not  a first earthquake in my life but still memorable experience.

Gay part coming most likely tomorrow

  

 

[lopesv2]

Great trip report (as always) so far! But we are all very anxious for the Cashew Chicken part  

 

Pollo con casatañas de caju? 

 

Jokes apart it is always good to now a bit more about the cities here

[msclelovr]

Great report @vinapu. It’s very useful to have such a detailed report, especially for people like me that have not visited PV.

I look forward to reading your report on the gay scene.

[vinapu]

few pictures, including my private secluded beach before we start whoring 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, msclelovr said:

It’s very useful to have such a detailed report, especially for people like me that have not visited PV.

Puerta Vallarta is awesome & I’ve been many times.  The weather is very predictable by season & it really depends on your personal preferences/tolerance.  I used to stay in hotels, but now condos only because the prices aren’t that much more expensive & so many new buildings with excellent facilities. The only issue with condos is they are frequently booked very far in advance for peak periods.  One of the best condo booking agencies is www.pvrpv.com  - extremely gay friendly & helpful.  
Beware of some PV hotels with top ratings on TripAdvisor - I booked one and arrived to a literal dump and promptly checked out & moved into a condo. It was a nightmare to get the hotel to refund payment (many of them require payment in full before arrival) and ended up with a dispute via my credit company, which ended in my favor.  For either hotels or condos, direct referrals from someone who knows the properties is a good idea. I have no idea how they can scam TripAdvisor for excellent ratings, but they do it. 

[floridarob]

I forgot to tell you about this company.....would you have done it?

https://www.facebook.com/jetsNakedBeachTours

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, Slvkguy said:

For either hotels or condos, direct referrals from someone who knows the properties is a good idea. I have no idea how they can scam TripAdvisor for excellent ratings, but they do it. 

At least I knew about deficiencies ( no internet in room , coffee making facilities , drinking water ) in my hotel from comments others left on booking sites so I came prepared and was not surprised. Only surprise was guest charge as I took gay friendly for guest friendly

[vinapu]

4 minutes ago, floridarob said:

I forgot to tell you about this company.....would you have done it?

https://www.facebook.com/jetsNakedBeachTours

no worries , I saw advertisements when there but no, I wouldn't participate. I'm not a beach person and beach for me is just strip of sand I need to cross going to or from water. I did nude bathing in the river in Botanical Gardens though as a substitute I guess.

[floridarob]

2 minutes ago, vinapu said:

Only surprise was guest charge as I took gay friendly for guest friendly

But you booked a single, because was a package....do you think if it was a double, you could have interchangeable guests??

[vinapu]

Just now, floridarob said:

But you booked a single, because was a package....do you think if it was a double, you could have interchangeable guests??

no idea but my guess will be no because of that bracelet issuance. I could sneak both my guests to the room  but neither was keen of breaking the rules and they told me that a outright. 300 peso joiner fee was not disaster and hotel did not make any fuss with guests  otherwise , even when I brought next one half an hour after first left on my last night as we learn in due course.

Booking double wouldn't make any sense as cost of flight was included in the whole package  costing 1075 $ while flight only would be 810 $ so it would be cheaper just to rent another cheaper hotel just for guests I guess.

There advantages and disadvantages of package tours I guess.

[10tazione]

40 minutes ago, vinapu said:

300 peso joiner fee was not disaster

With your daily rate of boys it can become very expensive lol

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, 10tazione said:

With your daily rate of boys it can become very expensive lol

What makes you thinking I hosted them in my room ? Did you ever hear  about tent in the park?

[vinapu]

Part 2

 Disclaimer : my time there was short and it was my first visit in Mexico boy hunting  so don’t treat anything I write as a Gospel. Those are my impressions but all is based on relatively small statistic sample gathered in short span of time  so I may be wrong or inaccurate.

When comes to pricing , definitely I made typical novice’s  mistakes buy over paying and under negotiating services. Even after week I saw it.

Even if spot on, I’m also not  sure how representative PV scene is to rest od country. At least two members with experience in Mexico suspected that scene there is spoiled by affluent California queeny gays.

 Gay scene

 “Romantica “ in Zona Romantica district name refers chiefly to  gays. Couples are very visible day and night, both locals and gringos as PV is considered by many gay capital of Mexico.

 Walking guys holding hands  even after Sunday mass are not drawing any attention. And PLU are supporting vide range of businesses in Zona , Cardenas being main street where a lot of businesses catering to gays are located, not all of them opened though.

 Go-go bars and street trade

 

 That’s easy, I did not hear about those when researching destination before arriving and did not see any on the ground so safely can assume there’s none.  I was offered  weed at least 4 times and if there’s any street trade I assume I would see  guys available, particularly that I was wandering through the streets of Zona Romantica  and Malecon at various times , including well after midnight.

 Sauna

Not my scene but there’s Spartacus on main drag open till 6 am well lit and with warning ‘ men only , do not enter if you don’t like gay lifestyle” posted inside  just in front of entry.

 Clubs

Quite a few , well attended  by both genders, visible from far because of lights and noise, again did not survey because it’s not my scene. Industry, Paco Ranch and Slaughters seemed particularly popular.

 Massages

Several shops in Zona including 4 in close vicinity of my hotel , guys are usually sitting or standing outside quite actively inviting business. Almost all on older side 25+ including few with greying hair already and invariably well build. Twink lovers don’t have much i.e. anything to do in PV, not in massages , nor in strip club , not even on Grindr. Vallarta visitors like their boys on better built side , that’s my firm impression. And those who know me , know that I liked  what was on offer.

 I took 5 massages and describe them in the next part but my general observation from that sample are :

 

There’s no mention of shower before or after, one just goes to the room , gets massaged  and that’s it. Guys are massaging you fully dressed, t -shirt and track pants or shorts. Yes,  it’s possible to undress them but for  a fee. Forget about hanky panky , everything other than massage is done in silence and conspiracy. Most guys are very willing to exchange contact info for  further encounters outside of working hours.

Guys are rotating often so if you see one you fancy , grab him , don’t assume he will be there next day. I learned that lesson in one shop where guy at front was made of my dreams but I was returning from jungle trek and wanted to take shower first. Went to hotels , showered , returned and he was gone to be never seen again and I was passing by at least twice daily.

 Massage is invariably started from upper  back , opposite to way practised in Thailand. In comparison to Thai massages guys in PV seem to be better trained and coverage is also better but under pressured. I like my massages strong and only one , my last,  was strong enough. Perhaps those biggish guys were afraid to crush KFC man?.

More details will be in part 3 “Boys” , planned at sometime between now and Christmas.

 

Apps

I use only Grindr and before arrival I promised to myself to involve only guys who will contact me first in line with my rule to hire guys who are smiling at me recognizing my presence. Like massages and strip club, guys there are old older and hunkier side. A lot seemed to be visitors. Money boys  and even massage offers are very discreet, much more so than in Bangkok , not to mention Pattaya. So basically one needs to ask as descriptions tend to be very cryptic.

 As we learn  in future I had a luck securing guy for the nightly sessions. And another one for single session.  One of my massages was arranged by  app and after another massage I spot my guy there inviting him for repeat at night in my room.

 

(part 2 to be continued as I don't want post to be too long ) 

 

[vinapu]

 

Part 2 continued

Strip Clubs

 After combing internet I was expecting to visit all four listed, three of them on Cardenas , practically one beside another. But it did not work that way – Pervert seemed to disappear or relocate but I did not find where. Wet Dreams looked closed for low season I checked almost daily well past midnight but no , it was not opened. Hope in future. 69 is opened but I had bad luck  as it was in process of renovation for 2 weeks, I even saw work in process and scheduled  to re-open 2 days after my departure. There’s prominent sign in the window “men only admitted”. Obviously no trace of political correctness there.

  This left me with only choice  - Anthropology.  That bar is located actually outside of Zona Romantica , immediately across the river, just past bridge. During day it can be overlooked but at night is lighted with psychedelic neon  and just to make sure there ‘s bare chested , well built but also well past his prime guy on duty at the entrance making sure all visitors are making donation in absence of entry ticket. Each time I was placing 100 peso = 5 USD in the jar but had impression that 50 or even 20 would do.

I visited it 4 times,  including one during deluge when in order to enter I needed to wring at  the entrance my soaked and dripping shirt.  Every time  it was busy , at times very busy  with standing room only.

Ladies are admitted  but behaved well.  But not too many old gringos in audience , Every time I felt like a dean of customers with my white hair.

 So how it works there ?

 You climb the stairs  to find yourself in very spacious bar , take  a seat and order drink. Corona beer cost only 50 for customer but 150 for a boy if you invite one for drink. Each time it was at least 20-30 guys on duty. There are more lavishly priced drinks , at times boys even ordered 2 which cost 400 but there’s advantage to it – boy is sitting with you until his drink is finished. 

They are quite reasonable  , not gulping it all in one go , so you can count on 15-20 minutes of conversation, some caressing , hugging,  kissing , depending how brave you are and how inclined guy is. I noticed some are reserved and others extremely easily forthcoming.

 They are dressed in their underwear , sometimes also t-shirt but will remove it on request immediately. Yes , you can feel their privates, cock usually was erect and erection enforced by rubber ring and those are Latin cocks, cocks of size ! Most boys  asked for a tip or another drink, but few just finished their glass and left to the next customer or to perform. My system was 500 i.e. if boy ordered 2 drinks and it cost 400 , 100 was his tip, if ordered cheaper one for say 250, 250 was his tip.

 They were asking for private dance promising 20 minutes for 500. I took bait 2 times but found it poor value. They have rooms for that upstairs, you pay 500 to the cashier and you both climb the stairs close door and  you have naked adonis to play with. In both cases they asked for 500 tip on top of fee paid already    so total was 1000= 50 USD and in both cases 20 minutes lasted 10 and 15. So definitely not worth it  unless you really like guy which was my second case. I had him sitting with me every night.

I’m not sure they took an advantage of my newness with that extra tip or that is the system. If I stay longer I’d find out.

 I spoke to one of boys and he admitted they prefer tip to drinks on which they get some commission but boss is watching and is expecting them to have certain number of drinks. He also said that boys can be take out for  a familiar fee of 500  but I did not get to it, may be next time. Some boys spoke very good English , some almost none and everything in between.

 As for shows there’s always at least one at any given time, always solo ,   on one of  three venues : main stage, pole dancing and shower . Sometimes one guy is performing on the stage and at the same time other is showering. Shower show by the way is only one with full nudity and boys there are not shy. Main stage performers usually sport rigid member , rather surely enforced by  cock ring.

 After their part boys  circulate among audience asking for tips so better be prepared with change although it’s easy to get one from waiter , I paid for my 50 peso beer with 500 note , asked for change for tips and I got fistful of 20 and 50 peso notes as a change, easy. Of course waiter got 20 peso for his efforts.

 You may have situation that at the same time 3 guys are circulating , main stager , shower guy and pole dancer , each with his hat you should place your tip in but also with his poking cock you can get a feel of for few precious seconds. All at time  when you have another guy sitting with you already and not exactly saying rosary either . Fun there never stops but also money is flowing like the river.

 But there’s little pressure, you get his smile and feel of whatever part of his body you fancy ( some assess are just God sent) whether you tip 20 or 100 and if you don’t  they are moving to next client.

 Boys are not shy and quite happy to share their attributes with you for a moment or three as long as you grease their palms.

 I had fun there every time but Guardian Angel instructed me to take only so much money so when it was gone , shortly was I, happy but empty pocketed ( 3000 each night, 2-3 hrs of non stop fun  including 3-4 boys sitting with me for a time )

In comparison with Thai bars  refreshing is absence of mamasans, boys are doing their soliciting by themselves but as I said , with very little pressure , I can recall only one so called face when I tipped guy just 20 peso. Those who frequent Tawan  will find an atmosphere similar.

 

 

[Riobard]

At some point in time in the very distant future these complicated labour-intensive spreadsheets will be considered anthropological curiosities, a game integrating Twister, Steeplechase, Sudoku, Monopoly, Balderdash and Trivial Pursuit. For now, my eyes are strained. Exhausting. I just want to pass Go and spread ‘em between the sheets. Same goes for Turco St. Moritz. I’m not even going to try to explain the system. But your detail is very useful just the same. 

[10tazione]

8 hours ago, vinapu said:

relatively small statistic sample

only mililiters this time, not liters?

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, 10tazione said:

only mililiters this time, not liters?

my time there  was short and live entertainment was  more night time filler than main pursuit

[Guest]

11 hours ago, vinapu said:

my time there was short and it was my first visit in Mexico boy hunting  so don’t treat anything I write as a Gospel. Those are my impressions but all is based on relatively small statistic sample gathered in short span of time  so I may be wrong or inaccurate.

Thank you for the extensive trip report.  As I’ve mentioned, I love PV in many ways as a vacation destination. Beautiful scenery, weather, inexpensive & excellent food.  That said, I would not go to PV if the main goal is a “hunting trip”.  It just doesn’t compare with how other members have described Thailand and absolutely doesn’t compare to Brazil…or even Spain IMO.

There are workers to be had, but vast majority are available online and that fluctuates wildly according to time of year. During peak season from late December to April, PV is flooded with boys from all over the world, including some very expensive escorts that include PV as part of their global circuit. And the hourly rates will vary depending on where they are from.  PV tends to draw a lot of American escorts during high season with hourly rates that are the same as paid in NYC, LA or Miami. There are boys from South America and other parts of Mexico, that will be less - but, they all know some of the Americans are getting those premium rates.   During the off-season when the higher end foreign escorts are not in PV, then rates will be lower and it will be mostly Mexicans.

Also, while PV does attract some older gringos, the majority of PV crowd during high season is circuit boys who are much younger and the entire scene is geared towards them.  It’s not Thailand where it’s been described as catering to older gringos and it’s not Brazil where any age is welcome in the saunas as long as you pay.  Due to the dominance of gay Americans in PV and many young ones there to party, you may feel out of place during high season when it’s got an overall circuit party feel….and  there is plenty of “attitude” that comes from those younger boys in PV to party.  It would be a completely different crowd and experience during the summer months or low season. 

I would absolutely still go to PV to enjoy the many wonderful things on offer.  There are occasional opportunities for sex if you’re willing to pay and that depends on what you expect. For an encounter like in a Brazilian sauna (actual sex) it’s going to cost you more than you think and will likely only be possible in your hotel room for an hour.  PV is just not setup for anything like a Brazilian sauna and the massage places do not operate as Thai massage places described here.  I’m sure you can occasionally “off” a stripper in a club, but there is no formal practice to do it and it would be something unusual vs standard practice in Thailand.  You can have strip club encounters as described, but it’s going to be clothes-on for the customer and varying degrees of undress for the boy under a tightly controlled time schedule.    

I do enjoy strip clubs myself, but never go with the idea of any actual sex and never go to the private rooms bc I know their game. And that game is the same as in US, which is to do as little as possible and get the most amount of money, all while trying to keep the customer engaged for as long as possible. Others may find complete satisfaction in those encounters and if so, then PV has plenty of options in that area for sure. 

If you’ve never been to Puerta Vallarta, it’s well worth the trip just make sure you know what to expect regarding weather during the time you plan to visit and set your expectations accordingly re: the scene with the boys.  It’s super gay friendly & accommodating, prices are less than the US but not like Brazil/Thailand and the actual sex will be limited and cost more than you think (as a visiting older gringo tourist).  Prices could be considerably less if you speak fluent Spanish and really know your way around Mexico. 

[Riobard]

I’m usually happy with one trip encounter for these less predictable destinations. Five years ago this season was soaked up to my ankles in flooded PV streets that became rivers. Without my fly-fishing waders I just walked southbound from digs near northerly local market, in my bare feet or plastic sliders; lucky to endure no major abrasions to soles, or electrocution for that matter. Put shoes back on when could keep them dry. Got lucky with a buff inexpensive guy in private dance mode at Wet. Ironic … Wet. Anthropology was a wash; also ironic given late-ish PM torrential floods. I had been many times in the 1990s for winter vacays pre sex tourism life stage. Always liked it, including in 2017.

[Guest]

On 9/30/2022 at 8:54 AM, Slvkguy said:

periods.  One of the best condo booking agencies is www.pvrpv.com  - extremely gay friendly & helpful.

one other unique thing about Puerta Vallarta - the best apartments are booked through local rental companies based in PV, not through AirBnB.  I think this is because so many of the better apartments are owned by foreigners as absentee owners, requiring a full range of services that AirBnB doesn’t provide.  I’ve looked at AirBnB PV listings many times & always found better apartments through the local rental agencies.   Once you connect with a reputable local rental company - they can recommend the ideal apartment based on your specific requirements.  And after you have that relationship established, much easier to plan for future trips.  Essential to plan far in advance to get the best apartments or to be flexible with your dates….many are booked a year in advance with same people reserving same time/same apartment.  

Puerta Vallarta weather is almost perfect December though early May and you’re guaranteed to have a good time. Enjoy

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, Slvkguy said:

 

Puerta Vallarta weather is almost perfect December though early May and you’re guaranteed to have a good time. Enjoy

I found Sept weather agreeable and quite pleasant. mornings and afternoons were sunny and warm, early evenings were rainy for 1-2 hours  and warm. It was one day without rain and one with long, torrential  rain 

12 hours ago, Slvkguy said:

Thank you for the extensive trip report.  As I’ve mentioned, I love PV in many ways as a vacation destination. Beautiful scenery, weather, inexpensive & excellent food.  That said, I would not go to PV if the main goal is a “hunting trip”. .....

There are workers to be had, but vast majority are available online..... 

 It’s not Thailand where it’s been described as catering to older gringos .......

 There are occasional opportunities for sex if you’re willing to pay and that depends on what you expect. For an encounter like in a Brazilian sauna (actual sex) it’s going to cost you more than you think and will likely only be possible in your hotel room for an hour....under a tightly controlled time schedule.    

 

I completely agree with your analysis based on what I experienced there, have only doubts about excellent food part but that's me , not  a fan of Mexican fare.

But yes , your analysis is spot on as we will see shortly when I describe my encounters with local talent while there.

[Mavica]

12 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I completely agree with your analysis based on what I experienced there, have only doubts about excellent food part but that's me , not  a fan of Mexican fare.

There's no one "Mexican food."  It's a large country with regional variations in fare.  You can be gluttonous eating every part of a cow or pig, or eat healthy.  As for weather:  September, October and early-November ... that's the core of the rainy season.  Tropical storms, hurricanes, etc. Water quality along the beaches during these periods can be "stay away" classification.

[vinapu]

Part 3

 Encounters

 Slvkguy did excellent analysis of the scene in PV in his post above and as you will see below my experiences are confirming it to a great degree.

 I had 5 massages, all 1 hr long and met 3 escorts, I describe massages first as one of massage guys become escort later.

1^st encounter , in the shop on my hotel’s  street

I passed by , noticed few boys sitting outside , all on hunky side as all masseurs in PV it seems but one drew my particular attention so I motioned him to go inside. I was instructed to lay on the bed and wait for the guy who arrived  after 2-3 minutes. He was fully dressed , I asked how much is massage – 700 pesos=35 USD for 1 hr. Massage was good but he studiously avoided being too close to my bit outstretched hands. Only after turnover he asked me how I want to finish. I asked him to remove shirt , yes for 500 extra. What about shorts? Another 500. Approved and only then , in complete silence I had a chance to put my hands on him. Bit expensive at 1700 total thought I but at least body was great. I did not ask for contact neither him offered. In fact I never saw him at that shop again which was too bad (that body, sigh!)

2^nd encounter

I mentoned I saw outstanding hunk in front of shop in the center of Zona Romantica but being sweaty went to hotel to take shower , returned , he was gone but I grabbed another hunk, probably closer to 40 than 30. Again , procedure the same, cost 700 , if I want him to remove shirt 200 more so I went for that 900 package. Massage very thorough and he was not shy being  close to the  table so I could feel this and that through his shorts and package was sizable , even if only half erected. But that was it when comes to steamy part. Gave him 1000, he gave me strong hug and asked to see him again.

 3^rd encounter

 Guy messaged me on Grindr and asked it I want massage,   picture looked good so I took an offer. By the way 3 out of 4 guys I saw in flesh and on Grindr looked much better in flesh thank on their picture.

He said he can come to my room or I can come to his shop. Keeping in mind 300 fee I opted for shop which turned out to be the same when I had my 1^st . Massage 700 and if I wanted him naked 500 extra. Either he was less greedy or 1st guy took me for ride. So I had my naked masseur although he only lowered his shorts to the ankles but that was good enough. Nice time for 1200 but still not that cheap at equivalent of 2000 baht. Massage itself was weakest out of all I had.

Since we communicated through Grindr he expressed wish to see me again and asked me to contact him there.

 4^th encounter

I took a stroll toward gay section of the beach and adjacent Blue Chairs hotel and noticed 2 massage shops there. In front on one was a HUNK who in fact ignored me but I’m not that easily discouraged when comes to hunks so when coming back few minutes later I motioned him to go inside. Relaxing massage 750, deep tissue 1000. I went for deep tissue. Clothing removing question came pretty fast , 500 extra, agreed. Great body , big everywhere so I had a bit of fun exploring it although it was still on modest side , mindful of conspiracy. His face looked familiar so I asked if he is on Grindr. Yes. He gave me him phone number inviting to call him when need arises. I did the same day in the evening – see Guy 3 below.

 5^th encounter

On my last day after I checked out of room I had 3 hours waiting time  before arrival of airport van. Most logic was to have a massage g followed by some lunch and I decided to check those shops on Blue Char street again. There was nobody in one I went to day before but across the street there were 4 sizable guys sitting in front of other shop. One raised his had from smartphone screen and asked ‘ massage ? ‘ Deal. Price the same  750 or 1000.

Again I went for deep tissue for 1000 and it was best massage out of those 5. No mention of shirt , even less shorts removal so just massage it is. It was only one when we actually talked during session. Nothing steamy but he let me to feel his private through the shorts and his ass was of particularly pleasant firm and bubbly quality. So I gave him     1200. He wanted to give me his number     and was very disappointed to learn I’m leaving in hour and half. Had I stay longer , for sure we would have another meeting ,if  only to see what his shorts were hiding. In fact I saw him again, when van was picking me up he was just passing by on his way home and our smiley eyes crossed again.

 So as you can see , while massages per se  were on rather professional side , not really much happened to terms of steam and all that at expense much higher than would be in Bangkok ( 1000 peso is about 1800 baht )

 

Guys

There were three.

 First

On my first night upon return from Anthropology I noticed than quite pleasant looking guy contacted me  on Grindr, not only saying ‘Hi’ but also posting his enticing nude pictures. Nevr mind it was past 1 am , I responded. Upon learning when I satay it was “ ouch , you hotels doesn’t allow guests but if you want you can ask them. “ So I went down, was informed it will be 300 and visitor must resent ID and will received bracelet upon entry. Sent message again and few minutes later guy was there. Wanted whopping 2000 and since it was my first night I agreed.

 

As it turned later he lived block and half away only. I liked what I saw , man looking much better than on his pics. Athletic rather than muscular with impressive certain important muscle so to speak. Very professional , perhaps too professional as exactly after one hour his phone buzzed indicating time is over. But I liked him and my time with him so I suggested I can meet him every night whole week for 1500 a pop. Immediately accepted, he even suggested that I can  see him in his place and instead paying hotel 300 each time I can pay that to him. Despite  time being 2.30 am my mind was not that clouded so I countered that we split that 300 half / half.   So for next few nights I went to his place  for our hour of fun.

And then after 5^th time all of the sudden he went silent , not responding to my messages. Not  a tragedy since I had consolation in Anthropology but I was curious what’s going on. Then on my last day he contacted me again , asked if we can meet and suggested my place for a change. It was funny as he came few minutes after my previous guest, Boy  Third left , generating knowing smile by night shift manager.

I did not get any explanation about that silence from yesterday, I did not ask either. All went very well as every night whole week but it must be spoiler, since it was our last night he asked for 500 extra. I paid but since I don’t like  such antics I blocked my sweetie on Grindr  and What’s Up as soon as  left for the airport. Sorry man but deal is a deal, it was supposed to be 1500.

 

Second

 

When I fired Grindr on evening of arrival I noticed immediately shockingly  attractive hunk . Coming to PV I decided that I will engage only guys who will be contacting me first. So I was extremely excited  next day  when he , noticing I checked his profile contacted me and offered his services. My judgement was clouded by his attractiveness so I even agreed to his 2000 fee. He preferred meeting at his place but it was short walk so I did not mind and went there.

 

Yes it was him, profile was not fake but still somewhat manipulated. Face was as handsome , body was great but six pack somehow disappeared, butt shrunk and he , sensing perhaps my excitement, turned bit sandbagy. So while I liked our time together I knew coming down that it was it , specially for that kind of money.

 

Third

 

As I mentioned  my 4^th masseur’s face was familiar , he admitted to being on Grindr so upon returning to hotel I checked and found him, asked if he wants to see me in my room . We agreed on late evening the same day. Of course whole 300 fee and bracelet procedure but it was worth it.

As I said , he was HUNK and turned not to be time watcher , no alarm clock at passing 1 hr. and seemed genuinely pleased that I like him or rather his body so much. Quite a catch with one of most beautiful cocks ever invented but foremost  very service oriented personality. I upped his fee of 1500 to 2000 , well deserved , specially in view of granting us more time that that standard hour.

So to summarize my PV flesh experience, strip club was fun, expensive but lively fun. One can economize   a bit by reducing size of tips and have one , not three boys sitting with him on the evening but it was worth.

Massages per se were good value as massages but really who needs massage in massage shop, that’s novelty for me. I’d say expensive way of getting boy’s contact information. Big plus was that almost all guys working in all places were well built and handsome, even if they had rotation system , one can’t go wrong.

 As for my guest’s and host’s, while compared to Bangkok more expensive , special per unit of time , two out three were very hot , pleasant , well endowed and free of antics. I liked them  but at night I think I rather dream about my Bangkok guys than Vallarta ones.

 Will I go there again ? Quite possibly. I had good time there , boy encounters were more addition than goal itself. I did not feel pressured by myself to chase them , it just happened they appeared on horizon and I grabbed them.

 Will PV become competition to Thailand in my heart ? No way as on every account , hotels , boys , massages , tips , time watching Thailand represents better, really much better value but Vallarta has one advantage  - it takes half price and 1/5 time to get there as opposite to BKK and no jet lag so at one point  I may become fan of the place.  

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, Mavica said:

  As for weather:  September, October and early-November ... that's the core of the rainy season.  Tropical storms, hurricanes, etc. Water quality along the beaches during these periods can be "stay away" classification.

I found both weather and water quality quite Ok and in future would have no problems to come  at the same time . If not whoring it turned quite a cheap and yet high quality   vacations.

Weather was at least very predictable, sun in the morning , rain in the evening. Ocean was choppy but water was warm and sufficiently wet. 

[tm_nyc]

26 minutes ago, vinapu said:

If not whoring it turned quite a cheap and yet high quality   vacations.

For visitors from the US, the much lower cost of the airfare (compared to going to Thailand) would offset the higher cost of the recreational activities.

Thanks for the excellent posts!