Trip report: Thailand September 2022

[zoomomancs]

14 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

First drink in Hotmale was 400 baht. 

I think most of us think the same about the shows. Some (soft) erotic entertainment would be nice. But we are there for the boys, not for hours of bad dancing that is not erotic at all or poor drag / ladyboy performances. Bar owners seem to think otherwise. 

Well the Tarntawan is not 20USD per night anymore on booking.com as I just checked. I come back for another 5 nights in Bangkok end of this month. Some examples of the price (all without breakfast):

Tarntawan: 35 euro per night 

Raya: 55 euro per night 

Ibis Styles: 40 euro per night 

D Varee Express: 25 euro per night 

Im actually thinking about trying the new Ibis Styles at Silom road. I like the idea staying in a brand new, fresh hotel. Also the location is good. Just between where Patpong 2 and the Soi of Tawan come out on Silom Road. 

Haha! I can imagine! 

No... I was in a hurry to catch the show at Tawan. How that expierence was, I will post in my next report later today... 😉

It can be cheaper to book Tarntawan by becoming a member on the hotel's website. You can see the prices per night on a calendar after you log in. I will be there at the end of the month for a few nights before going to the Raya.

[maump]

10 hours ago, Londoner said:

I ask this question in all innocence; are there any gay men who wish to see ladyboy shows? Honestly?

 

 

I enjoyed the dance show at Venue.....  mostly looking at the men....

I never been with a lady boy...  thought about it but not much.  would like to try a FtM cute thai man with a pussy.....

[maump]

I stayed in the Holiday in express ($28 today on agoda) near silom. and Trinity ($30 today but usually in the 20s).  the holiday inn was modern and had nice breakfast.

Trinity was modern, and you had access to a healthclub next door with a good big pool and gym... .  both easy walking to the clubs.

I don't think the base rooms were large in either.

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

And the day is still young... Still have the evening adventures ahead. 

and don't waste that opportunity for another 6pack of the day

[emiel1981]

Part 10: Last evening in Bangkok (for now...) 

Yesterday was my last evening in Bangkok. I will go travels around Thailand now for a few week (up north, Pattaya, Phuket...) and will be back on Bangkok on September 23 for 5 more night before I fly home.

The evening didn't start well... It was raining hard, the roads flooded. And the hourly forecast didn't look good either.

But after about 1hr the rain stopped and it was "safe" to head out to the bars. I had some unfinished business to take care of before leaving Bangkok tomorrow...

First of all there is the guy on Grindr who is for days already stalking me. He works in Freshboys. Don't wanna just ignore or block him because I want to be able to go to Freshboys again without "losing face". He looks nice and sweet, not sure if he will be my type in real life. So didn't want to invite him to my room without seeing him in the bar first. But he kept trying. Even on his day off. 

Decided to go for a drink in Freshboys first and buying the boy a drink too. So at least I've shown him my good heart. Lol
Gave him besides a drink an extra 100 baht bill and told him I had to leave to Tawan because I needed to show my friend that place. Which was actually true as I met up with another solo traveler and we agreed to go to Freshboys en Tawan together that night.

Because of the rain, the steps at Freshboys was wet and slippery. The guy I was with slipped and felt down, taking me with him in his fall as I was walking in front of him. I had a soft landing, on top of him. He took a harder hit on the concrete stairs. But was also fine. Thank god. He was even laughing saying that cracked his back without having to pay for a massage... But let this be a warning whenever around in rain: stairs can be slippery! 

We arrived at Tawan around 11pm. The show didn't start yet. When we looked around we found out why: we were the only customers... All the rest (around 20 boys again, same like the day before) were Tawan staff. We had our drinks, talked to the (I suppose) manager and I off course invited 6pack guy (see report part 8 in this post about one day earlier in Tawan) to come and sit with me.

"I take care of you tonight?" he asked. Oh yes you can! Understandable, with no other customers in the bar, Tawan decided not to have a show that night. I was entertained by 6pack guy who took my hands and placed them all over his muscles body so I could feel everything... He was placing his own hand on my shorts while feeling what was hidden inside... This is even better than the show. Lol

No show this night, only guys doing some posing on stage like in this picture from Tawan twitter account. 

In the meantime I had some conversation with the guy I was with. He decided to move on to soi 4 to see if, despite the heavy rain earlier, things were happening there. And I took 6pack guy back to Tarntawan.

2500 for the boy, 500 for the bar. More expensive than the average off fee in the boybars. But I wanted to have a Tawan expierence... And it turned out better than expected.

One day earlier when I also was in Tawan, 6pack guy already told me "everything" is possible, except that he doesn't want to get fucked. He spoke good English so I had no reason to think things went lost in translation. Possibilities from his side and expectations from mine were clear. He had to leave his id card at reception of the hotel.

In my room the muscle worshipping that started in the bar continued. And as promised he kissed, sucked my dick... And even more: he licked my balls and ass. Was very nice to feel his tongue go there... 
After this all came to a (my) climax, 6pack guy gave me a short mini massage. I felt his strong hands over my body and feet. 

After 6pack guy left, hotel reception called me to check everything was oke before they gave his id card back.

To be honest, I didn't expect much from a Tawan guy. I was thinking maximum you could get was touching his muscles and sucking HIS cock. The expierence I had with 6pack guy was so much better than that...!

Let's see what adventures the rest of Thailand will have for me in the next weeks... 

[vinapu]

16 minutes ago, emiel1981 said:

The evening didn't start well... It was raining hard, the roads flooded.

Let's see what adventures the rest of Thailand will have for me in the next weeks... 

it must be impressive torrent since one of boys I have on Line sent me short clip showing heavy rain indeed

Enjoy your trip and keep us posted how rest of Thailand worked for you, no pressure though

[yp11]

On 9/5/2022 at 10:53 AM, emiel1981 said:

Part 6: A rainy day keeps the customers and boys away... 

It was a rainy Sunday evening yesterday. It was already 10:15pm, and I was looking out of the window of my hotel room waiting for the rain to stop. From the 17th floor of Le Méridien I couldn't really tell how hard it actually rained. So I decided just to give it a go. Patpong 2 is just a very short walk from the hotel anyway. 

Not too wet I arrived in an empty street where some touts under umbrellas offered me a dry place to shelter. I still didn't go to Hotmale yet the last days so without much chitchat in the street with the tout, I directly walked upstairs.

There it seemed the rain had kept everybody away. Both the clients and the boys. I counted 6 customers. And 8 boys on stage. But you only need one nice boy to have a great evening, right? Quality over quantity. 

Drink 400 baht. Boys on stage wearing jeans and some even sleeveless white shirt with Hotmale logo on it. But I don't complain, as I did see some eyecandy on stage. A very friendly papasan started a nice conversation with me. He also told me 5 of the 8 boys were gay and can be fucked. From these 5 there were at least 3 I could take home because they were my cup of tea... 

One of them was the whole time smiling at me. He had a very cute and nice smile. If you would visit Hotmale when he's there, you would definitely be able to pick him out of the line of boys directly. He's the one with by far the nicest smile and naughty sparkle in his eyes. I directly felt for it and knew straight away he was going to be my off for tonight. But I like to play hard to get a littlebit. So I teased him, smiled back. But also flirted with some other boys. 

The show started. Papasan told me gonna be short show because quiet night. I could completely understand. It was a bit awkward for the boys to do a few acts for only a few customers. It started with a very original but strange act: a boy in small underwear and virus ball toys (like on the picture below) attached to his custome came on stage and was chased away by a boy in protective clothing and mouth mask. 

After 3 acts is was already time for theasr part; the big cock show with 3 boys showing their junk. One of them had I think the biggest cock I've ever seen in Thailand. So if that's your thing you now know where to go... I tipped all 3 guys 100 baht. As soon the show was over and all boys came on stage again I invited Mr Cutesmile over for a drink. During the show some more customers came in and I couldn't have somebody else quickly take him before I could make a move. 

Tere was nowhere a ladyboy/showgirl to be found in Hotmale. Which was nice for a change after the overkill of ladyboys I witnessed the last two days. Let's not speak about the low quality of the acts, but at least for originality they score a 10 because of the covid act... Lol

Mr Cutesmile is from Cambodia and was massageboy in Phnom Penh before. Conversation was a bit difficult because his limited knowledge of the English language and me failing to speak Khmer. Paid my bill (including 500 baht off fee) and went with Mr Cutesmile to 7-eleven to buy a drink and baby oil for the massage. No questions asked by the reception staff of Le Méridien, only a very friendle welcome back greet like always. 

We shower seperate. I can tell Mr Cutesmile is a bit nervous. So I tell him we start with massage and will see. I assure him we don't need to do anything he doesn't want. Because I got the feeling his nervousness was fueled by the papasan telling him I am top and want to fuck him. This boy was cute enough for massage, some touching, enjoying his body and sucking. And that's what happend. I don't always have to fuck. I actually only enjoy it when the boy that I'm with enjoys it too or at least gives me that impression. Massage skills of Mr Cutesmile are oke. Not too hard, not too soft. Perfect for me. When the deed was done we showered together. After another attempt to have a small conversation (via google translate) it was time to send him on his way... 
 

Sound something different compared to June, is that Big Cock show they completed naked or with underwear? 

If you mind to share the number of Mr. Cutesmile to catch a look next visit.

[emiel1981]

Part 11: Up north

Yes guys, I'm still in Thailand. 

The reason I've been quiet in my trip report, is because I was behaving like a tourist up north. Meaning doing some siteseeing instead of boy hunting. And I suppose you guys are more interested in the boy hunting part of my month in Thailand than lots of pictures of the beautiful places I've visited. So... That's why. 

I flew to Chiang Rai where I was meeting my driver and guide Woody at the airport. He is from Chiang Mai but drove to Chiang Rai so he could first show me around there for two days before driving to Chiang Mai together. Woody was actually recommended to me by @bkkmfj2648, who used his services on a previous trip. He also advertises on Siamroads. 

Woody praying in a cave we visited

In Chiang Rai Woody was showing me some temples and "the black house". A museum in a few original Thai houses. The artist had an obsession with dead animals and cocks... I couldn't let the opportunity in the museum pass by to make this picture:

Woody is a very friendly and cute boy. Well... He's 38 now so don't think we can call him a boy still? We all get older... Lol 

He and his partner met when they both were working in a massage place. Besides being a massage boy he also was already guide and driver for tourists. They both retired from the massage job, but are now running a gay massage shop together in Chiang Mai. With lots of nice boys: Classic House Massage. Check out their website. Aways better to first contact them via line for up to date pictures of their staff and so they could arrange your favourite boy to be at the shop when you come. 

Classic House Massage in Chiang Mai 

Woody told me that business in his massage shop was getting a littlebit better, but still far far behind from what it used to be pre-covid. Till now most of the clients are Thai tourist. The Falang still not coming it seems. Other gay-orientated businesses in Chiang Mai also start opening up. Ram Bar is having their daily ladyshow again at 9h30pm. Its a nice and fun show. Including male backup dancers. Specially in the weekend this can get busy. But big part of the audience was straight couples just having a fun night out at a ladyboy show. Also Adams Apple opend again. But I didn't go. I was not in the mood of traveling all the way to the other side of town to probably find out the place is empty. As that chance was big as the evenings I was in Chiang Mai it was raining. And from my experiences in Bangkok I know what that means for the amount of guests in boybars...

Show in Ram Bar

Did nothing naughty happen up north? Of course... But not much actually. One night I invited a muscleboy over to my hotel room after chatting with him on Grindr. A bit older (37yrs), muscles... He could work in Tawan in Bangkok. That type of guy. He asked only 600 baht so I did not even try to negotiate the price... He was a great deep sucker and was also a willing bottom. So that was a good night...

A few times a week there are direct flights between Chiang Mai and Pattaya with Thai Lion Air. And that's the next destination I choose for my Thailand trip. Probabaly some more to update you about in Pattaya than I had the last days up in the North... 

[ichigo]

I also hired Woody as my guide when I was in Chiang Mai a couple of months ago, and visited Classic House too! Glad to hear business is picking up a little.

[fedssocr]

I'm always happy to hear about tourist things as well as boy things.

[maump]

On 9/6/2022 at 11:58 PM, emiel1981 said:

Part 10: Last evening in Bangkok (for now...) 

2500 for the boy, 500 for the bar. More expensive than the average off fee in the boybars. But I wanted to have a Tawan expierence... And it turned out better than expected.

 

I have not been to tawan, muscular types are not really my thing (although , if in the mood to bottom, muscles are just fine!)

2500 ST?  I thought Tawan boys were much more?   poor business, lower rates?   what kind of fees for ST twinks at the other bars? If tawan is down at 2500b, twinks down at 1500?  Pattaya rates?

(not terribly cheap, but inquiring minds want to know.  after Medellin prices, trying to get a handle on ,my cost for next visit )

[bkkmfj2648]

3 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

Woody was actually recommended to me by @bkkmfj2648, who used his services on a previous trip. He also advertises on Siamroads. 

Hello Emiel1981.

I am truly happy that you had a great time with Woody and his partner.  They are a wonderful team and a true pleasure to be with.

DM me if you want to meet up in Pattaya.  I finally made the move for retirement from Europe to Thailand - however, I am in Jomtien. It is not yet a week that I am here - and my life is upside down with all the things that need to be done to settle into my new Thailand retiree life.

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

I finally made the move for retirement from Europe to Thailand - however, I am in Jomtien. It is not yet a week that I am here - and my life is upside down with all the things that need to be done to settle into my new Thailand retiree life.

welcome home ! Have fun settling down, tiring us it may be you will feel young again starting all over

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

Part 11: Up north

Yes guys, I'm still in Thailand. 

The reason I've been quiet in my trip report, is because I was behaving like a tourist up north. Meaning doing some sightseeing instead of boy hunting. And I suppose you guys are more interested in the boy hunting part of my month in Thailand than lots of pictures of the beautiful places I've visited.

 

This is exactly what I thought.

And no , we are interested in pure tourist impressions as well. After all we need to do something when boy goes home .

[emiel1981]

Part 12: Arriving in Pattaya 

6 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

A few times a week there are direct flights between Chiang Mai and Pattaya with Thai Lion Air. And that's the next destination I choose for my Thailand trip. 

To be clear: I off course mean that they fly from Chiang Mai to U-Tapao Airport (also known as Pattaya Airport, but still about 1hr drive to Jomtien). I arranged Mike Pattaya taxi service to pick me up from the airport (800 baht) and when I arrived his driver was waiting for me with a sign with my name on it. Unfortunately his car did not start. Another driver came to help. They used jumper cables to start the engine and within 10 minutes we were on our way. 

In Pattaya I always stayed close to Boyztown the precious times and actually never explored Jomtien.

Yes, I did take the songtaew to go to the gay beach (Dongtan Beach), but did not go to the Jomtien complex bars before. I decided that needed to change. And because forum members here had good experiences at The Agate, I booked my room there. Like others wrote before; I got a great deal booking directly with the hotel. Only 1000 baht per night without breakfast. Much cheaper than booking it via booking.com or Agoda.

Why I skipped the Jomtien complex till now? Probably because Boyztown could give me everything I needed. My taste of boys is more on the masculine / muscular side. And I always read that Jomtien caters more for the lovers of slim/skinny boys. But as I’m open to try new things, and if needed Boyztown is only a short ride away, I’m staying in Jomtien this time. 

First impression of Agate is very good. Friendly staff at check in and goodlooking room with comfortable bed. Since I'm in Thailand I've also had beds that were a bit on the hard side, but the bed in Agate feels good. 

While showering I was thinking why is there this little bench in the shower? I could only think about one thing: so that a boy can sit on there while giving you a blowjob in the shower.... Something to try out the next days.... Lol

Staying in the middle of the gay area is nice. But it can also be a little annoying when you have to go pass by pushy massageboys at Soda Massage every time you go to the beach, 7-eleven or dinner. Specially when a few of their boys already chatted with you on Grindr and the fact you have shown them "some interest" makes them directly think you want massage today with them... Good that I quickly found a shortcut: via the garage of Agate you reach the main road directly, without having to pass by massage parlours or bars. Can be nice to know if you just want to leave the Jomtien complex without being hassled. Or if you want to bring a boy from Boyztown back to Agate without having to walk with him trough Jomtien complex (I've heard some boys don't like parade trough the complex).

Jomtien beach 

I went for a walk on the beach and noticed how pretty Jomtien beach actually is. With (palm)trees growing ON the beach. Giving it the real tropical atmosphere. Hopefully the weather in the next days will be good so I get the chance to actually lay on the beach an afternoon. Relax, read. 

After dinner it was time to make a round in Jomtien to get a first impression of the nightlife here. But I will write about that later. 

[scott456]

6 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

Part 12: Arriving in Pattaya 

,,,,,,,

While showering I was thinking why is there this little bench in the shower? I could only think about one thing: so that a boy can sit on there while giving you a blowjob in the shower.... Something to try out the next days.... Lol

,,,,

 

A lot of households have build-in shower bench these days with the modern bathroom design.  It is for people who prefer sitting down while lathering up with shower gel or soap.  This is especially convenient for ladies and seniors.  Many people also install hand-rail in the shower. 

The shower in the picture doesn't have a barrier on the floor, so I suppose water can easily flow from the shower to the toilet and sink area, and makes the entire bathroom floor wet and slippery.   This is a common design in Asian, but not good. 

[vaughn]

6 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

Staying in the middle of the gay area is nice. But it can also be a little annoying when you have to go pass by pushy massageboys at Soda Massage every time you go to the beach, 7-eleven or dinner. Specially when a few of their boys already chatted with you on Grindr and the fact you have shown them "some interest" makes them directly think you want massage today with them... Good that I quickly found a shortcut: via the garage of Agate you reach the main road directly, without having to pass by massage parlours or bars. Can be nice to know if you just want to leave the Jomtien complex without being hassled. Or if you want to bring a boy from Boyztown back to Agate without having to walk with him trough Jomtien complex (I've heard some boys don't like parade trough the complex).

The Agate walkway to Thappraya and the walkway opposite Thai Blind Massage that takes you into the bar soi really are helpful shortcuts. I use them a lot to avoid unwanted attention and grabby hands haha.

[vinapu]

50 minutes ago, vaughn said:

The Agate walkway to Thappraya and the walkway opposite Thai Blind Massage that takes you into the bar soi really are helpful shortcuts. I use them a lot to avoid unwanted attention and grabby hands haha.

+1

not to mention that it's really shortest way top 7/11 across the street

[GWMinUS]

11 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

While showering I was thinking why is there this little bench in the shower? I could only think about one thing: so that a boy can sit on there while giving you a blowjob in the shower.... Something to try out the next days.... Lol

HAHAHA I find the seat in the shower great for other things.

Like having my long time and hot Filipino friend give me his special prostate exam!!!

🥰

[emiel1981]

Part 13: First night in Pattaya

Yesterday evening after dinner I made a walk in Jomtien complex. And soon I did see confirmed what others already wrote in this forum a few times: the guys trying to get you on their terraces are more on the small, slim twinky side. Not realy my regular taste. I like my boys to be more hunk like, with preferably some muscles on it.

So walking in Jomtien was for me not like entering a candy shop. But the atmosphere was good, the boys very friendly. The show in The Venue was already in full swing. But I was on my way to M2M because their show was going to start in a few minutes. They have daily shows now (except for Mondays) at 10pm.

It was a busy Sunday night. Around 85% of the seats were taken when I came in, and after me some more guests came in. I ordered a rum and coke. But it was undrinkable. Way too strong. The colour suggested some coke was in there, but tasted almost pure alcohol. Nothing that can't be solved. I just ordered another coke on the side. 

On 9/6/2022 at 5:00 PM, Londoner said:

I ask this question in all innocence; are there any gay men who wish to see ladyboy shows? Honestly?

I have to confess I was actualy very entertained by the show at M2M. It probabaly also helps when you know what to expect. And I knew I was not going to see any gay erotica or big dicks. They had 5 ladyboys and 7 or 8 boy dancers doing different acts. The show lasted for a good 90 minutes.

Part of the cast 

What was this strange language of the songs of a few of their acts? Was it Russian? Would it be more political correct to skip these?

The combination of ladyboys with some background dancers worked good for me. The dancing boys were good eye candy. One of them, the cutest one in my eyes, even was the front man in one act. When he started playbacking "What do you want from me?" by Adam Lambert I could think of a few thinks he could do for me... Lol

My favourite of the show... 

After the show finished the cast went outside on the street so the audience had the chance to snap some pictures or have a talk. My favourite dancer was unfortunately busy talking with another (female) fan...

When I walked passing the different bars again I found that some terraces were having quite some customers, while others were almost empty. The boyish boys were still present trying to convince me to take a drink at their establishment. But I had made other arrangements already with a guy from Grindr coming to visit me in my hotel room to have a deep discussion about current affairs... 😜😊

[vinapu]

10 hours ago, GWMinUS said:

HAHAHA I find the seat in the shower great for other things.

 

unfortunately day may come when you may realize that such a bench  is not a joking matter, when you want take a shower and you are too weak or shaky to stand there

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

 I ordered a rum and coke. But it was undrinkable. Way too strong.

what do you mean?

[emiel1981]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

what do you mean?

The drink in M2M did not taste good at all. It was like there almost no coke in my mixdrink and I was drinking pure alcohol with a bad taste. 

17 hours ago, scott456 said:

The shower in the picture doesn't have a barrier on the floor, so I suppose water can easily flow from the shower to the toilet and sink area, and makes the entire bathroom floor wet and slippery.   This is a common design in Asian, but not good. 

The water only stays in the shower area and does not flood the rest of the bad room floor. So actually it's a good design. Also the shower curtain helps off course. 

On 9/11/2022 at 8:53 PM, maump said:

2500 ST?  I thought Tawan boys were much more?   poor business, lower rates?   what kind of fees for ST twinks at the other bars? If tawan is down at 2500b, twinks down at 1500?  Pattaya rates?

Exactly. It was 2500 ST for a Tawan guy. Plus off course 500 bar fee. That's 500 baht in total more than you pay in a average boybar (Patpong 2). The going rate is 2000 for the boy and 500 for the bar in Bangkok. Prices a bit higher in Tawan, Jupiter and Moonlight. 

In Pattaya prices can be a bit cheaper, but depending on where you go. 

[12is12]

How much is LT in Pattaya?

And how much to off for 24 hours, 2 days, etc?

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

The drink in M2M did not taste good at all. It was like there almost no coke in my mixdrink and I was drinking pure alcohol with a bad taste. 

 

still I did not get it, how pure alcohol may have bad taste is beyond. 

You know what is better than shot of rum? Two shots of rum☺️