Selected comments SP/Rio …

[Riobard]

… trip this month:

[Riobard]

Agents when arriving at T3 Guarulhos were amazingly attentive and competent at redirecting dozens of passengers with missed connections, following the now typical airport infrastructure screwups up here in Canada that have become the aggravating ‘’new normal’ and unsurprisingly affected my flight. 

[Riobard]

The 09:30-17:00 SP/Rio bus either direction is growing on me, in this case Autoviaço 1001, BRL239 return. Allows a bit later sleep-in morning of departure but enough time to check in within conventional time frames upon arrival, and get to a targeted venue in time if desired. It stops at the same plaza in Resende each way for 30 minutes, with a good Graal outlet lunch selection and even time for a little separate gelato-by-weight treat. Load up a few movies on bucket list and go. 

[Riobard]

Lunch (or dinner) at SPOT! off Paulista is not to be missed. Was packed in and out and got the last table. 

[Lonnie]

26 minutes ago, Riobard said:

Lunch (or dinner) at SPOT! off Paulista is not to be missed.

Spot on!

[Riobard]

Latent typo error catch: Autoviação 1001 is the express bus company. 

[Riobard]

Samples of pop-ups at Republic Palace en route to 117 … I note these downloads may be glitchy on the Board but they aren’t glitchy in my Photos app. 

[Riobard]

A Dad with kids fishing at Flamengo with a lit line float. Being July, dusk is earlier, 17:00-ish … though some people wanted to break out their designer winter clothing yet temperature highs close to 30C most days thwarted that. 

[scott456]

Not sure where to post my question/comment, so I am hijackng this thread.

So, I don't understand this. There are some GPs who just sit and talk with pariticular client(s), and don't even look around and check if there are other interested clients.  Am I correct to assume that this GP has already sold his gozada for the day, and is just relaxing with the client and a drink?  I said this because I had the experience where I am interested in a GP at Lagoa, but he was chatting and drink with a customer.  I kept looking at him, he eventually came over, we went to the room, he was personable and playful, but couldn't get hard.  So I just pay him R100 and called it quit.  From then on, I would not hire any GP who was not actively cruising for customers.  In retrospect, I probably should have been direct with any GP and asked if he had sold his gozada for the day before I hire him.

[Riobard]

Prostitution is the oldest profession yet never particularly based on prostitute genuine subjective arousal (in spite of physical manifestations), or orgasm. Pre-Kinsey pre-DrRuth punters got this, as should we irrespective of ‘ho’ gender. Watch some summer games Athletics hurdles and some winter games figure skating. If every splatterer went home and hung up their gear having failed an arbitrary gold standard the whole enterprise would collapse. Accept the less than or equal to bronze performances that are inevitable in the context. For my part, the silver lining is that I always get off by being flexible. And I eschew the pandemic of consumer victim mentality. Ejaculations aren’t typically manipulatively withheld when often associated with access to tips and word of mouth on-site reviews. I am buying the guy and his time; he might not be capable of predicting his own ersatz sexual response cycle. The biggest inhibitor of sexual arousal is the expectation that lack thereof has deleterious consequences. That’s the heuristic of couples sex therapy in terms of comprehending the genesis of erectile or orgasmic dysfunction. 

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, Riobard said:

For my part, the silver lining is that I always get off by being flexible. And I eschew the pandemic of consumer victim mentality

bravo - exactly. rolling w the punches so to speak….. i have a similar approach & typically yields the desired result. 

btw, experienced providers are expert at detecting this mindset and it immediately puts them at ease too…almost guaranteeing a superior performance bc it’s not required, but rather appreciated. 

[Riobard]

You can drag a mule to The Myth of the Male Penis but you cannot get it to read it rather than drop kick it some distance from simple enlightenment. 

[speedoo1]

I'm the only one a bit lost on what is actually being discussed here?

Maybe it is because I'm not from the US and not familiar with many of the names/terms mentioned...then I appolgise for the ignorance.

[Riobard]

1 hour ago, speedoo1 said:

I'm the only one a bit lost on what is actually being discussed here?

Maybe it is because I'm not from the US and not familiar with many of the names/terms mentioned...then I appolgise for the ignorance.

The comprehension of male sexual function on the board is on quite a range, from pre-teen word of mouth myth level, having never developed in adulthood in spite of genital preoccupation occupying a huge proportion of male waking hours, to Board-certified sexologist clinical acumen. There is no price of admission to brothels in terms of sophistication of knowledge. I don’t think this board is a very useful repository of shared experience regarding whether an expected or hoped for escort erection or ejaculation occurred or didn’t. The majority of understanding here is very basic and predominantly wrapped up in whether what was ostensibly purchased was delivered. Satisfied or hoodwinked.

These are mostly inane discussions. I can only offer a simple educational lead here and there. Many readers would rather dismiss such suggestions as pedantic than help themselves out of a very constricted view of male sexual response. They won’t get beyond bewilderment in spite of there usually being a logical answer. Additionally, some readers have a very short attention span and want to see a single correct answer to a complex question, inevitably bitching when a post is too long when the answer to a question is often best obtained by reading a popularly accepted tome, for example, a commitment of several pages and hours. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Riobard said:

They won’t get beyond bewilderment in spite of there usually being a logical answer

this is the confusing part - yet, so true.  some of them don’t follow any logic or have any common sense.  

and then I wonder, how do they actually manage an increasingly complex world of international travel ?  perhaps they don’t 

[Riobard]

13 minutes ago, Slvkguy said:

this is the confusing part - yet, so true.  some of them don’t follow any logic or have any common sense.  

and then I wonder, how do they actually manage an increasingly complex world of international travel ?  perhaps they don’t 

… that wonder never ceases. Their survival represents that wonders never cease. 

[Peter Parker]

During my frequent visits to Brazilian saunas over the past 10 years, can only recall two GPs who couldn't get hard. In fact, I've always been impressed how they become instantly hard once the sex gets underway. Always thought this was due to the regular use of Viagra by the GPs. 

[scott456]

I am glad to hear many inputs. 🤔

Thanks for taking the time. 

[Riobard]

15 hours ago, Peter Parker said:

During my frequent visits to Brazilian saunas over the past 10 years, can only recall two GPs who couldn't get hard. In fact, I've always been impressed how they become instantly hard once the sex gets underway. Always thought this was due to the regular use of Viagra by the GPs. 

Most men can have a very high number of consecutive erections of an evening. I am age 70 and I am capable of multiple erections per day. This is not unique. Just try a simple experiment. Structure hourly arousal without concluding to ejaculation, say every second day for a week within an arbitrary window of a few hours each of those days. If withholding orgasm feels too deprivational, rub one out the last iteration on the experimental days. 

I don’t consume sildenafil or any other brand of pharmacological type-5 phosphodiesterase inhibition. The assumption that a majority of young escorts are popping Viagra like candy is erroneous. What is likely more unique about them is that they fall into the subcategory of males possessing, for no apparent reason other than randomness, autonomous erectile potential, in contrast to other males that may depend on a greater array and degree  of specifications to yield penile tumescence. 

[Riobard]

Addendum: too late for above edit/save …

In other words, I have to make my own fun. I’d have more fun without requiring additional personal effort if the overall needs of punters as a whole were to be less confining. Who doesn’t love a rock hard dick? Nobody. Who can tolerate a less than robust escort erection? Few. But life requires tolerance and adaptation wrt limits arising from many sources that are not of one’s making. 

[SolaceSoul]

On 10/5/2022 at 9:25 PM, scott456 said:

So, I don't understand this. There are some GPs who just sit and talk with pariticular client(s), and don't even look around and check if there are other interested clients.  Am I correct to assume that this GP has already sold his gozada for the day, and is just relaxing with the client and a drink?  I said this because I had the experience where I am interested in a GP at Lagoa, but he was chatting and drink with a customer.  I kept looking at him, he eventually came over, we went to the room, he was personable and playful, but couldn't get hard.  So I just pay him R100 and called it quit.  From then on, I would not hire any GP who was not actively cruising for customers.  In retrospect, I probably should have been direct with any GP and asked if he had sold his gozada for the day before I hire him.

I’ll try to answer your questions since they don’t seem to be directly addressed here.

Some GPs are at the saunas on pre-determined dates with clients. Most often, you will spot these GPs in one of the bar areas, sharing a drink or two or sometimes a bite to eat with a client — and most often, either or both are fully dressed. The kicker is if the GP is not available to speak to other clients before / during / soon after that pre-arranged date (understandably, most clients aren’t going to like it very much if their pay date is using his paid time to book another date). So, if that GP that you hooked up with turned out to be available, most likely either his client date had already left (or cum and gone) or it was just a non-sexual date and he got paid for his time (yes, this is more common than you might think). 

There could be several reasons why a GP’s dick doesn’t get hard. It doesn’t necessarily mean he already ejaculated with a previous client. Most GPs will stop working for the night once they do cum, so I doubt that was this guy’s reason. Maybe at that moment, he just couldn’t get aroused. It’s hard to believe sometimes, but garotos are human, not machines. 
 

 

[davet]

This has happened to me numerous times and I'm as bewildered as anybody. Most recently this year in Rio, a god of a bodybuilder (easily the hottest guy on the low-attendance nights) completely ignored me, even brazenly walking away or pushing me away. And then one night I bagged him. I wanted to worship his bod and was expecting a disappointing interaction, but he turned out to be pretty good. He said he had 6 other dates that night. That made me feel real special, but I didn't ask why he was so aloof before.

Another guy, also from this year's trip, seemed bound to another garoto and a client and would not reciprocate my obvious interest. Perhaps he was a newbie being trained by a veteran (a not uncommon scenario).

I guess my answer is that it's nothing personal and just random logistical issues. However, the next time, I will ask whether he is in recovery mode. I actually like huge cocks that are flaccid, which rentboys find to be weird.

[Riobard]

5 hours ago, davet said:

This has happened to me numerous times and I'm as bewildered as anybody. Most recently this year in Rio, a god of a bodybuilder (easily the hottest guy on the low-attendance nights) completely ignored me, even brazenly walking away or pushing me away. And then one night I bagged him. I wanted to worship his bod and was expecting a disappointing interaction, but he turned out to be pretty good. He said he had 6 other dates that night. That made me feel real special, but I didn't ask why he was so aloof before.

Another guy, also from this year's trip, seemed bound to another garoto and a client and would not reciprocate my obvious interest. Perhaps he was a newbie being trained by a veteran (a not uncommon scenario).

I guess my answer is that it's nothing personal and just random logistical issues. However, the next time, I will ask whether he is in recovery mode. I actually like huge cocks that are flaccid, which rentboys find to be weird.

But numerous times, really? Surely not if the garoto is obviously or even apparently detachedly casing the place for performative labour and not obviously already engaged with a client. There is certainly nothing special about me and what you describe has barely happened over 8 years. There is one regular of mine that runs hot & cold, both on the venue floor and in programs. He can be aloof or will pass on an on-the-spot program request at times … though typically the hookup happens if I want it to at a later time of an evening; other times an affectionate squeeze out of the blue that is not overtly a bid by him for a program, and he also varies in degree of friendly demeanour in private. In other words, a moody as fuck hunk. But a physical fantasy and makes me come hard. My bent is not typically submissive but he has that je ne sais quoi about him. I have seen him unhinged over the underside of brothel dynamics, corroborating my impression of his character. 

If a ‘must have’ escort-vibing fellow seems caught up with other people and indifferent to signals, I may pass him a note with my number. I will do this discreetly so he doesn’t have to feign exaggerated loyalty to the cock-blocking entourage. If they need to all go to the pissoir together like teen chicks and I cannot find him unglued for even a second to make my feeble little pass, the interest may fade anyway. The last time I intercepted a must-have to say hello (no note), recently, we went immediately to a program that had me in ecstasy. Afterwards, he seemed re-attached by the hip to his client friend. Alternatively in nothing ventured nothing gained situations like this I may send the waiter to take a drink order from them, on me, no expectations. ‘Have money’, signalled as needlessly spent, ‘will travel’ maybe to reception for a key and time with the obsession of the moment.

I may have just implicitly identified two guys in common. LOL

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Same page regarding garoto erection. They may be mystified if requested to not work at it so anxiously or diligently, perhaps assuming that there is something accusatory, challenging, in the message, as if the expectation is that he is incapable rather than that I am flexible about the choreography. This is an artefact of requirements to endure over-personalized client tantrums regarding provider penile tumescence. That said, less than robust erections are rare. As far as the turn-on potential of a dick in resting state, the allure of the guy as a whole reflects a developmentally mature template on your part. 

[Guest]

8 hours ago, davet said:

Another guy, also from this year's trip, seemed bound to another garoto and a client and would not reciprocate my obvious interest

On the flip side of this coin, I have some long-term relationships w just a few garotos and when I’m in town (or in the sauna to be precise) - they will make an effort to prioritize spending time w me. And it’s not all about money - although if I hadn’t been so generous in the past during Covid, then It would not be the relationship it is now.  Now, it’s more like he/they will definitely want to do a program or maybe programs by my choice - but it’s more like they want to hang out, have fun, drink & smoke with him/them. So, he’s spending his time with me by choice & sometimes that can feel limiting on my end.  Sometimes it feels like he wants to keep an eye out for me and directs me to his friends who have always been good guys & know what I like.  It could just be he likes the control of the golden goose so to speak - but I, in turn really enjoy his company in a non-sexual way too so it kind of works. I have cut it short to go off with others and he reluctantly accepts the situation.  He sometimes accepts a programa when hanging with me, but asks if it’s ok which is kind of odd. And, I’ve seen him turn down many programas just to hang with me by his choice too - so it goes both ways.   It’s kind of a smart move to cultivate your best customers just like any other business.  Anyway - I’m visiting again soon & will definitely have updates. 
Moral of the story - treat the working guys like real people, clearly communicate what you want & tip them generously. You will have your pick of the men in short order.  Once they all know you’re an easy client w no surprises - they all want programs w you. It’s that simple. 

[Riobard]

Gonna hijack back my topic and clutter it with DIY vids; a neighbourhood Sunday at the vibrant graffiti art alley Beco do Batman, São Paulo