Min's tidbits about my Thailand and Vietnam experiences

[Boy69]

It's a big mistake to arrange threesome with two boys whom are freinds/roommates it's an akward  situation for them and it's better to ask the boy to choose the partner he wants.

[floridarob]

5 hours ago, reader said:

Although the orgy didn't turn out to be what you originally had in mind, it had a quality about it that seemed to fall somewhere between rodeo and whimsy. I think you still managed to have some fun while making the others happy they met you.

and us happy to read about  it 😉

[vinapu]

Don't get discouraged by somewhat failed first attempt in orgranizing an orgy and from time to time keep trying. Boy 69 tip above may be helpful.

Either go with and stick to prescribed scenario I.e. boy A fucks Boy B while you and boy C are in 69 position or whatever or alternatively , like in the movie scene you quoted in your post, go for complete "" see what happens " spontaneity.

It,s important guys understand well what you expect from them

[Min]

On 7/22/2022 at 5:34 PM, reader said:

Although the orgy didn't turn out to be what you originally had in mind, it had a quality about it that seemed to fall somewhere between rodeo and whimsy. I think you still managed to have some fun while making the others happy they met you.

To be honest, I still haven't had a single clue in mind how a threesome should be I read other members' report, I sampled some scenes from Korean seegasm series but never found those particularly appealing. They lack the level of intimacy the one-on-one has, which is important to me in having sex.

On 7/22/2022 at 5:34 PM, reader said:

I think you still managed to have some fun while making the others happy they met you.

Guilty as charged. It was not really about sex and I kinda expected disaster from the beginning. I derived more pleasure from watching them interact with each other, however awkward it was  

 

 

 

[jason1975]

16 hours ago, Min said:

To be honest, I still haven't had a single clue in mind how a threesome should be I read other members' report, I sampled some scenes from Korean seegasm series but never found those particularly appealing.

 

 

 

What is Korean seegasm series? Maybe if you had shown it to the two boys, they would know what you seek in 3some.

[Min]

3 hours ago, jason1975 said:

What is Korean seegasm series? 

You never heard of them?

[zsolec]

On 6/26/2022 at 12:15 PM, jason1975 said:

I like all 5! Maybe one weekend I shall go to Phnom Penh!

Why I don't see the  pictures from Min's report from Cambodia. Am I banned to see those hot pictures  ?

[fedssocr]

This forum has gotten too quiet. We need Min to get back to his travels for our entertainment! 😘

[PeterRS]

On 7/24/2022 at 11:03 AM, jason1975 said:

What is Korean seegasm series? Maybe if you had shown it to the two boys, they would know what you seek in 3some.

Seegasm is a different form of porn site. It seems to be run by one guy who features as the top in many dozens of vdos. He's either training cute naked young guys in different forms of sexual pleasure as a bottom or just giving them a good time. He records each vdo from 2 or 3 angles and then releases them individually. Initially quite interesting but they do tend to be pretty repetitive.

[Lonnie]

7 hours ago, PeterRS said:

 

Seegasm

Thanks PeterRS....I've never been there and always enjoy a new site.

seegasm.net

[Olddaddy]

I think Korean guys are the hottest guys on the planet 

I'm attracted by the eyes the most and their dominance.

Saw a few in the Philippines on Grindr but sadly didn't seem to be into me 😣

I wonder if there is much action in South Korea and younger into Daddies,?

I guess it would be Pay4play there mostly?

[Min]

On 8/3/2022 at 12:09 AM, zsolec said:

Why I don't see the  pictures from Min's report from Cambodia. Am I banned to see those hot pictures  ?

I have no ideas. I also noticed some (but not all pictures) just disappeared. Probably some forum's bugs. @TotallyOz: do you know anything about this? 

On 8/5/2022 at 5:37 AM, fedssocr said:

This forum has gotten too quiet. We need Min to get back to his travels for our entertainment! 😘

Hehe, I have been travelling but don't have much to add.

On 8/5/2022 at 11:15 AM, PeterRS said:

Seegasm is a different form of porn site. It seems to be run by one guy who features as the top in many dozens of vdos. He's either training cute naked young guys in different forms of sexual pleasure as a bottom or just giving them a good time. He records each vdo from 2 or 3 angles and then releases them individually. Initially quite interesting but they do tend to be pretty repetitive.

They have a lot of boys to my taste but too bad boys mostly wear masks during a session

[Min]

(part 12, truly in a tidbit fashion)

After making my usual rounds this week at Dream Boy, Fresh Boys and New Twilight (in that order) and offed three boys of different nationalities (Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar, respectively), one from each bar, here are some updates. 

1. Drink price and boy's cut: Dream Boy is the most expensive at 450B for both customer and boy drink, Fresh Boy: 400B, and New Twilight: 350B. Boys all got 100B from their own drinks. The bar fines (or off fees) are all the same: 500B (but different from Pattaya bars, as reported in earlier parts, boys in Bangkok bars receive nothing from the bar fine).

2. Boy's basic salary: all three bars provide some incentive for boys, who show up at work on time (8pm) and who do not have an off that night (boy drinks don't count). This amount varies from bar to bar though. Dream Boy stingiest with 100B/night, Fresh Boy better with 150, New Twilight most generous with 200 (on par with Banana Room reported in part 8).

Fresh Boy also had this weird rule: if the previous night you don't have a customer, the next day nobody cares if you show up for work or not. But if you had a customer the night before and you don't show up the next day, bar assumes that you are still with that customer and you have to pay a bar fine of 500B. Since the boy I offed from Fresh Boy is Viet and we talked in Vietnamese, I think I got this correctly.

3. Number of boys: Since Dream Boy currently boasts the largest cast (more than 40), Fresh Boy middle of the pack (around 25) and New Twilight (less than a dozen, 7 floor boys and 4 show boys the night I visited) comes last, the above-mentioned incentive appears to play a lesser part in boys' decision of where to work. 

I think number of potential customers is far more important. Fresh Boy and Dream Boy both played to a packed house the nights I visited (drizzling midweek nights) and many boys got off. Things did not bode well at all for New Twilight: Saturday night, perfect weather (pretty cool but no rain) and only 6 customers (4 alone and 2 together) at the time the show started (10p30). A few more arrived during a show. There was a large gaggle of young male farangs coming in, who could easily double or triple the "crowd" size in the house if they decided to stay, but they didn't. I think when they saw there were only a few boys on stage, fully-clothed, they backed out immediately. 

4. Speaking of New Twilight's attire problems, I made it a point to complain loudly to 2 different mamasans about what the boys were wearing on stage (this is a GO-GO bar with GO-GO prices, why LONG jeans and black t-shirts with LONG sleeves, revealing almost nothing; the boys all looked like valet parking attendants in some casino hotel in Cambodia). Both mamasans assured me boys would wear less later (after the second show, around midnight), but I didn't see that happened.

When I finally picked a boy, before making my decision (actually I already made my decision when he showed me shirtless pictures on his phone), just for added effect, I asked him to get back on stage at least shirtless.

He took off his shirts and stood at the end of the rotation. Then it looked like he explained the situation to other boys and moved up front so I can admire his toned body. I nodded my approval "that's how it's done", told the mamasan (who recognized me from the early X-boy and Lucky Boys days and still remembered I'm Vietnamese) to go get the tab. Funny enough, when my boy got back to me, another on stage also took off his shirt (probably in hope of getting more attention?)

I also saw that most boys who were asked to come and sit with a customer are show boys, who wore underwear most of the time, and one got an off and left with a customer after the final show, around the same time I left with mine, a bit after midnight.

Another problem (New Twilight's freezing aircons which other members complained about) was also addressed several times that night. When I put on my light jacket, a mamasan asked if they should adjust the temperature (good customer care). Then another customer on my left asked them to change it again because it was still freaking cold. Then just before their second show, one of the dancers in a skimpy outfit asked for the third time. It was then warm enough I had to take off my jacket to reveal my toned body. Sorry I digress...

5. The "You can f*ck me but keep it an open secret" trend: as discussed in part 10, I noticed this phenomenon years ago in Vietnamese MBs in Vietnam, but this time, I start noticing it too in Bangkok bars. 

When I visited Hotmale earlier this week, the only one I would consider offing is No 34. Checked with a mamasan, who said he's Thai and straight. "Can I f*ck him?" "No, he's men." A few minutes later, another mamasan, who somehow got wind of my enquiry, approached me and said "You can f*ck him but you have to pay more. But keep it a secret because he's shy and doesn't want others to know". 

I refrained from asking the obvious question "then how come do you know?", "how much more?" 

Mamasan didn't know (maybe it was an even bigger secret) and ran off to asked, then came back with "He wanted 5000" (same level as Moonlight models?). I don't think so, so I didn't off anyone from Hotmale that night.

Then in New Twilight, the boy I picked was also straight. Both he and mamasan said he's willing to bottom (not asking for more money though) but again, it's a secret (I tell only you) nobody knows (except those who know).

6. This time, I continued to off mostly new faces, as is my wont. I was second customer of the boy in Dream Boy, who was a 26-year-old hair stylist back in Cambodia and who needed money to pay off his big loan. 

I was (again) the first customer ever of that boy who got on stage shirtless in New Twilight. He was from Myanmar and just started 2 weeks ago, got two boy drinks but no off yet. It seems he's indeed new and tended to do exactly what I told him. 

Back in the hotel, I gave him a toothbrush. He went off brushing his teeth, then came back, still wearing his jeans. "You didn't take a shower?" I asked him. "I have to take a shower?" Off he went back to the bathroom. Later, it turned out, not just was this the first time he slept with a man, it was the first time he slept with anyone (He hasn't even slept with a girl yet, never had a girlfriend, and he's 21 years old already. Must have come from a far-flung backwater area.) Didn't even know how to kiss with tongue. "Are you nervous?" I asked him. "No, I'm not nervous.... I'm afraid. This is my first."

Speaking of "first time", I was also the first time ever of Little Lao in part 11. Born to a farmer's family, grew up in a rural area and only did farming work, he never had a chance to have sex with men, let alone have a boy friend. "I went to Thailand to earn money but also to have opportunities to have sex with men," so he told me after that farce of threesome also reported in part 11. "I slept with 4 or 5 men so far" He added (proudly? but appears to lose count already though)

Anyway, what happened with the Viet boy I offed from Fresh Boy was more hilarious. He was far more popular than the other two and also the youngest at 18 years old. He started in Fresh Boy 5 days ago and I was already his fourth customer. That means he got customers, both farang and Asian, almost every day. Can't speak English and Thai (not yet), very sweet and nice to talk to in his mother tongue, I think he would follow the same route as other cute Viet boys I met in Fresh Boy. Popular at fist as a cute new face, but no repeats. His idea of servicing a customer is still pretty much jerking himself off to a porn video while the customer watches.

Just out of curiosity, I also asked him how much it would take to f*ck him. He said, he would consider bottoming, and since this is his first time, to "take his flower" or to "pop his cherry" (or whatever expressions you think would fit), a customer needs to pay 50.000 bath. To be fair, in Vietnam, virginity traditionally matters a lot and wealthy businessmen have been known to pay many times of that amount to deflower a girl, believing doing so would bring them good luck. Anyway, the boy in question, in stark contrast with the Myanmar boy, slept with girls before he reached 18 (the consent age in Vietnam is 16) and already got a new Viet girlfriend who's only 17 right here in Bangkok, barely five days after he arrived, so I think the matter of virginity is not really relevant here.

7. Finally, some funny tidbits.

I agreed with some other members' observations: New Twilight white-wearing waiters are generally cuter and also more gay than their floor boys. Because @jason1975 got a regular working as waiter in the bar and he made it clear that his friends stay away from his man, I have to be sure. When I came in, my first question to a cute waiter who greeted me was "Who's Jason's man?" (so that I can stay away from him) "Everyone else, but me" came back the answer. Sorry this is totally made-up. I just wanted to pull Jason's proverbial leg.

The fucking show in Fresh Boy that night had to stop midway, I guess because the top can't keep it hard. So they went backstage and the audience was asked to watch a cabaret performance while the boys got themselves ready again (I don't know how). The Viet boy sitting with me gave his kudos to the top - who he saw, during his five days working in Fresh Boy, perform every night, three different shows each day, all requiring a sustained hard-on (first a jerk-off solo on a couch, then the big cock show, finally the fucking show). 

Should I start a blue pill donation campaign to help him out? I'm sure many members here have one or two to spare.

(to be continued)

[10tazione]

4 hours ago, Min said:

Fresh Boy also had this weird rule: if the previous night you don't have a customer, the next day nobody cares if you show up for work or not. But if you had a customer the night before and you don't show up the next day, bar assumes that you are still with that customer and you have to pay a bar fine of 500B.

I think it makes a lot of sense from the bars perspective.

[Min]

1 hour ago, 10tazione said:

I think it makes a lot of sense from the bars perspective.

It looks to me X-boys in Pattaya is even stricter with their attendance rule: as long as you are on their roster, you pay the fine of 500B if you don't show up, regardless of your off status the previous night. I guess boys can take leave for medical reasons or to visit their family though.

[pong2]

Yes-that was/is moreorless the general universal rule for about all bars. IF they do not show up on a day they are rostered, it will be assumed they had an off. But as about all things Thai in a small bisnis where personal contacts and also bisnis-value of the better performing guys (solely in terms of receipts to the till) play an important rule-plus that about any ´rule´ whatsoever anywhere in Thailand will have many exceptions and other important considerations-nothing is set in stone. It can all change by the minute or whims. Now that staff are much harder to get and need incentive to stay longer, bars have to give in to their old-style enforcements

[reader]

10 hours ago, Min said:

After making my usual rounds this week at Dream Boy, Fresh Boys and New Twilight (in that order) and offed three boys of different nationalities (Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar, respectively), one from each bar, here are some updates.

I was surprised--and pleased!--to learn that DB's has abandoned its practice of featuring only Thai boys.

Kudos on a great update. 👍

[Min]

1 hour ago, reader said:

I was surprised--and pleased!--to learn that DB's has abandoned its practice of featuring only Thai boys.

Kudos on a great update. 👍

Really, they used to enforce a Thai-only hiring policy? Now come to think of it, the two boys I offed before from DB were all Thai.

[vinapu]

32 minutes ago, Min said:

Really, they used to enforce a Thai-only hiring policy? Now come to think of it, the two boys I offed before from DB were all Thai.

they used to and even advertised it on their posters outside but in May I noticed at least one Cambodian known to me  working there. One of boys I went there to see the show and his friend working there also told me that said friend is Burmese.

So it looks it was nice to have strictures but when staff is in short supply , everybody will do I guess.

Thank you for great and entertaining report, from what you say as well macaroni 21 in other thread it looks that New Twilight may be in trouble if they don't start undressing their guys.

Still hope one day you will brave yourself to Senso, LOL

[macaroni21]

On 8/14/2022 at 2:37 PM, Min said:

The Viet boy sitting with me gave his kudos to the top - who he saw, during his five days working in Fresh Boy, perform every night, three different shows each day, all requiring a sustained hard-on (first a jerk-off solo on a couch, then the big cock show, finally the fucking show). 

Should I start a blue pill donation campaign to help him out? I'm sure many members here have one or two to spare.

This is a very interesting tidbit. It so happens that in 2009 (no typo, really 2009), I reported:

"They have one guy (name: Rot) who always does the fuck show. He’s the top. According to Yord whom I offed from Fresh Beach, Rot does it seven nights a week, sometimes twice a night. This, in addition to being part of the big cock parade. Few people on this earth have a curriculum vitae quite like it."

This paragraph is from the section on Fresh Boys in https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2022/08/01/bangkok-gogo-bars-update-sept-2009/

Might it be possible that we're referring to the same guy???   If so, has he been in this line of work for 13 years?

[Min]

On 8/15/2022 at 1:57 AM, vinapu said:

Still hope one day you will brave yourself to Senso, LOL

Since you like that place so much, I figure it would not have the type of masseurs I want. If they hire some twinks, I would be there in a jiffy.

13 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

This is a very interesting tidbit. It so happens that in 2009 (no typo, really 2009), I reported:

"They have one guy (name: Rot) who always does the fuck show. He’s the top. According to Yord whom I offed from Fresh Beach, Rot does it seven nights a week, sometimes twice a night. This, in addition to being part of the big cock parade. Few people on this earth have a curriculum vitae quite like it."

This paragraph is from the section on Fresh Boys in https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2022/08/01/bangkok-gogo-bars-update-sept-2009/

Might it be possible that we're referring to the same guy???   If so, has he been in this line of work for 13 years?

I did read those very informative reports in your blog and still remember that fucking show performer. But I don't think we are talking about the same guy. The current Fresh Boys star looks like he's in his twenties

[vinapu]

12 hours ago, Min said:

Since you like that place so much, I figure it would not have the type of masseurs I want. If they hire some twinks, I would be there in a jiffy.

 

Keep in mind I like Senso from times I was there last time -pre covid. What is the situation now I don't know  but from report I got you may stand a chance. Even Tawan had and probably still has twink on duty now. 

[Min]

(part 13) The story of 2 unfriendly boyfriends

It was a rainy night in Jomtien Complex. Rain wasn't heavy but non-stop for hours. Most bars in the soi were empty. Many boys didn't bother showing up for work and pickings were slim.

Wet and cool weather put me in the mood for a massage, so I put up my umbrella and checked out the nearby places. I saw no one at Soda but there were 2 boys standing in front of No. 1 Massage, both of whom I never saw before. Both are cute in different ways.

The shorter one was medium-built with a cute face and poreless complexion. The taller one has a slim, taut body and big eyes. While I was approaching, Taller threw a cold glance in my direction then walked away. Not a friendly way of greeting potential customers. Shorter stayed put but didn't look any friendlier, avoiding eye contact as much as he could. 

Normally, I would give it a pass and look somewhere else as friendliness rates very high in my book. But the rain didn't give me much choice and boy was my type. So I stopped and said hello. Fortunately, Shorter's English is quite good (would be hard to try Google translation outdoor in that weather) and he himself was talkative.

His name is S, 25 years old, from somewhere near Bangkok. Today was his first day working in No. 1 Massage but no customers because of the weather.

"How much do you want for a massage with happy ending?" "1200, but no sex" 

What, do we have other kinds of happy ending that do not involve sex? 

Turned out by "sex" he meant anal f*cking. He can kiss, suck and chuckwow. That worked for me. So I asked him to go with me to my hotel. 

"No, I only do it in the shop. I don't go customer's place."

It was only around 11pm something but his shop already closed due to lack of business. It looked like we can't do it that night.

"How about the other boy? The one who was with you just before now. Does he go to customer's place?" 

"He's my boyfriend and he's same same. No go outside" 

Interesting, what he just said reminds me of Boy No 6 and his boyfriend (reported in parts 8 and 10) who have been working in the same go-go bar in Bangkok and who doesn't mind the other going with customers.

Anyway, that doesn't solve the problem at hand. 

"Look, my hotel is right there" I point in the direction of Agate, which is literally 20 meters from where we was standing. "You have nothing to be afraid of." 

S looked unsure. I think he really could use a customer that rainy night but the idea of venturing outside the safety of his shop somehow scared him. So we stood there for ten more minutes in the rain while S debated the pros and cons.

He talked to another co-worker in Thai, then made a call to (later he told me) his boyfriend. Finally, he said "Ok, I can go. But promise me you don't try to fuck me in the room."

Do I look like that desperate rapist, who wouldn't even spare a goat???

Inside my room, things got much better as I usually have a way of putting people at ease and and making them open up. S started working on my legs and back, while telling me about his relationship.

His boyfriend is 3 years younger than him at 22, and they've been together for nearly 5 years. Impressive. It looks like their relationship is going strong (No 26 and his boyfriend been together for only about 6 months). That long time also means it's easier for them to handle a sexually open relationship. 

S has been doing massage job for almost 2 years. He and his boyfriend made a deal: they can do almost everything with customers but no fucking either way. S is bottom and his boyfriend (who started the relationship with S when he was barely 18) is the only one who can f*ck him.

That's why he didn't do out-call lest a customer force him to do something he's not willing to. 

"Then why you go with me?" 

"Because you don't look like a bad person" (by "bad" I think he meant "goat rapist") 

"and farang customers are big" 

I think I can connect the dots. I have the same body type as his boyfriend, smaller than his so he thinks he could handle me if things go rough  

Still, when S jumped on top of me for the after-massage part, he checked again "Promise you won't try to fuck me" Something must have happened in his "massage career" for him to be that careful.

I just rolled my eyes. What could I do? He was even on top of me. Unless he tries to sit on my flag...

Anyway, S kept his end of the deal. He did everything else, vigorously. Sucking, kissing (very much into kissing), jerking off (he came all over my body) and more importantly, he did it with feeling. I feel we really connected that night. I also kept my end of the deal of doing nothing around his bottom area although my other end kinda hoped that S would sit on it.

It was just an okay massage but with a very happy ending. Later, we showered together and he touched the hickey he left near my collar bone, smiling and saying "Sorry". He could be sweet if he wants to.

"Don't worry, I won't show it to your boyfriend." 

Speaking of whom, I checked with S if I can also do his boyfriend. Actually I enquire if I can engage his boyfriend's professional service as a masseur at an appropriate time in the future. 

"Yes, but he is not friendly" When an unfriendly person claims that another person is not friendly, that's saying something, isn't it?

"Well, I can tell. Before he looked like he wanted to kill me." 

S laughed and gave me his boyfriend's contact. They share a rented room right there in Jomtien complex so they should be available anytime. 

Staying true to himself, S was back to being cold and distant the several times I walked by the massage shop in the next few days. I never saw him greet a customer, eyes always glued on his phone, avoiding all eye contact. He never noticed me if I didn't call out his name and when he did, didn't even acknowledge it with a smile. Does he really expect customers to pick him just based on cuteness?

Since then I was a bit worried about how things would go with S's even unfriendlier boyfriend. We made arrangements to meet at the hotel lobby a few nights later. Throughout the awkward silence of the ride up in the elevator, I kept thinking "Was it a mistake to do this?" 

Once in the room, he silently stripped down to his underwear and all my wistful thinking went out of the window. His body looked exactly my type (S was a bit too chubby for my taste but he had a cuter face to make up for it). So I decided I'm gonna just enjoy his massage and his body despite the apparent lack of connection.  

Then I noticed he fumbled around, trying to open a bottle of oil massage with slightly trembling hands. 

"Are you nervous?" 

"Yes, my first time in hotel. We don't go hotel before"

Then I remembered seeing his profile pictures wearing all Uniqlo clothes. 

"Do you like Uniqlo?" 

His face brightened at the mentioning of his favorite brand. "Yes, very much" 

"Me too. Big fan. Half of my clothes are Uniqlo"

I even got up, opened my suitcase and showed him my collection of Uniqlo apparel. Now he truly smiled. The ice was broken. 

Boyfriend of S's English wasn't as good as that of S, but he survived simple conversations. Again, we talked about his relationship. They met online in a game, got talking and fell in love after just one month, and been together since. They were both from poor families, so still have to support their parents back home. They shared all the money they made but didn't make quite enough so if S's mom gets the money this month, Boyfriend's mom would receive money the next.

Unlike S, Boyfriend kept his underwear on the whole time he was doing my back. When it was time for me to turn around, I felt he was warmed up enough so told him to take off his underwear. 

To my surprise, something already stood at attention, saluting me. I think I found the friendliest part of his body.

Understandably, things just got better, even better than with S, because Boyfriend was more of my type. Like S, he was also very much into kissing. His cock is shorter but much thicker than that of S - this couple really complement each other in many ways (except for the friendliness part). 

I think I know what you guys are now thinking. S would do a threesome, a four-hand massage with another boy but not with his boyfriend. Boyfriend wouldn't do any kind of threesome. I'm sure I want to do them both, but not at the same time. So we were all good.

Although Boyfriend remained very hard throughout, he couldn't cum because he already came earlier during the day with his boyfriend (I was his only customer of the day). After, we also showered together for an amount of time inordinate for a normal rinse-off. We kinda played in the shower. Every time I saw his cock starting to get soft, I gave it a nudge and it was instantly back to a greeting position. And its owner, the unfriendly, cold and distant Boyfriend of S, kept giggling at the exuberance and friendliness of his cock, showing no sign of wanting to get out of the shower.

Once we were done and said goodbye, Boyfriend gave me a hug (S gave me a hug and a lingering kiss on the lip so I think he still wins the friendliness competition), I gave his cock a final nudge and voilà - he left the room with a noticeable bulge in his loose pants. 

A minute later, Boyfriend sent me a smiling blushing emoticon through Line without any words. I checked if he was still hard. "Yes". I asked if he wanted me to come downstairs and make it bigger again. He replied with 5555. So much for being unfriendly huh.

(to be continued)

[Vessey]

Great story, just shows what a little trust, patience and kindness can achieve  

 

[floridarob]

14 hours ago, Min said:

I kept thinking "Was it a mistake to do this?" 

How many times we've all had this same thought ....😆