Popular Post ichigo Posted June 20, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 20, 2022 I have been waiting for the day where I could visit Thailand again, and in a week's time will be that day! I'm super excited. Leaving and entering my country has become quite straight forward, as has Thailand and I finally have some time. Applying for the Thai Pass was pretty straight forward, and even though I know it won't be required anymore from July 1, I will be arriving a few days beforehand. Starting and ending in Bangkok, I'll be keeping it flexible for 3 weeks and probably will visit Chiang Mai and Phuket too. The last time I was there was in December 2019, just before the pandemic, and I have been itching to go back for so long. Anyway, trip report to come at some point, just wanted to share my excitement! Patanawet, vaughn, Londoner and 7 others 8 2 Quote
Londoner Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 Lucky you! I have to wait three weeks for my return. After thirty months away. I hope your trip all goes well. And so for me the usual....butterflies in the stomach, obsessive pre-planning of journey and arrival, disturbed sleep patterns. All worth it. vinapu, ichigo and khaolakguy 3 Quote
vinapu Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 5 hours ago, ichigo said: Anyway, trip report to come at some point, there are people here with long memory, just saying floridarob, ichigo and prickles 3 Quote
ichigo Posted June 20, 2022 Author Posted June 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Londoner said: All worth it. Could not agree more! Quote
Popular Post ichigo Posted June 30, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted June 30, 2022 I've been in Bangkok for a couple of days now, and can I just say that it is so surreal being back after not being here for about 2.5 years. This report will be a little disjointed, reporting on various aspects rather than a day-to-day account of events. Hotel: I'm staying at the Tarntawan in one of the corner suites and it is quite roomy with a separate living area and bedroom. The bathroom has a walk-in shower, or should I say, a step-up shower as you need to step up quite high into the shower. The hotel is definitely showing it's age, but is still functional and located well. It is a little dark, even though I have 2 windows, and the view is not super amazing (but I'm not really here for the view). Arrived to a scene of a family of tourists that were going off at the receptionist, no idea why, but apart from that it has been pretty non-eventful here and the staff seem friendly enough. Massage: I've been to Prime twice so far, and it is top quality. Both times I had a 1 hour foot/1 hour Thai massage, which were great, but today I think I may not go back as the guy yesterday went pretty hard and I am still a little sore and need some time to recover. It is 500 baht for the 1 hour foot/1 hour Thai and I've been tipping the guys the same amount as the massage cost. The place runs like a well-oiled machine and smells really nice. Tawan: I went here on my first night, and to be honest, the guys at Tawan aren't necissarily my type (apart from that one 'smaller' guy) but I was curious and wanted to expand my horizons so to speak. I caught the 10:30 show and it was pretty standard stuff - lip syncing drag queens/lady boys, big cock show, fucking show etc. Some nice dicks, but it was a shame that they covered their faces during the big cock show. Anyway a guy came and sat with me near the beginning of the night and was angling for an off, and I decided to off him for short time after the show. A little older (which I don't mind at all), he said he would take care of me and can kiss, suck, fuck etc. Anyway, back in the room, it was all pretty average to be honest, yeah he kissed, but very minimally and same with sucking. The fucking was okay though, but nothing to write home about. Anyway, I left 2000 baht for him on the bed while he was having a shower, and he wanted 3000. If the whole experience had been amazing then yeah I probably would have paid up but it was pretty average at best. I countered with 2500 as I didn't want to argue which he accepted. Anyway, just chalking it all up to experience and I understand that I'm not going to connect with everyone. I walked down the Tawan street a couple of times going to Prime and he was sitting out the front, so I just waved politely. Dreamboys: My best off in 2019 was from dreamboys and the guy was attractive, a little muscly but not overly big, had tattoos, and was passionate. We've been in contact intermittently on Line, just short things like he would send me a happy valentines day message and I would send him a happy songkran message, stuff like that. Anyhow, I went to dreamboys and immediately recognised him. When he saw me he had this big goofy grin, but later said he wasn't sure if it was me or not. After his rotation, he went and sat near the bar area (later he said to see if it was me) and I waved him over and he remembered me vividly, the good time we had and where I stayed last time. Anyway, he seemed genuinely happy to see me and was really affectionate in the bar (even kissing as well) and wasn't shy either. I watched the first 2 shows (there was one more but I was getting tired), and it was the usual stuff. The highlights included the part where so many guys had their dicks out, I was in heaven, and the fucking show was so hilarious - they just got into these really weird and ridiculous positions. I laughed out loud. There were so so many guys in the rotation that I could have easily offed though, and I possibly will. After the second show, we went back to my hotel (hand in hand) and if last time was passionate, then this time was even more. He loved to kiss which was great, and we even had a cuddle afterwards. I gave him 3000 baht for short time as he deserved it, plus he was sitting with me the whole time in the bar (apart from his section in the show), and I may see him again at some point. This is what I am after - experiences and connections like these. Made me forget all about the Tawan guy! I check out of here on Sunday or Monday (I forget now) and haven't decided where to go next - I'm thinking possibly Chiang Mai. It is good though to see that the bars are slowly returning to normal and I look forward to more experiences. fedssocr, Ryanqqq, AlexThompson and 12 others 15 Quote
Popular Post flashbarryallen Posted June 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 30, 2022 @ichigoYou mentioned that you're not going to connect with everyone and I think that's important for many readers to learn. I think with certain Tawan guys, it's easy to confuse their initiative with interest and connection, but that's not necessarily the case. My best Tawan experience this trip was last night with a guy who was not particularly aggressive and going for the off while I was in the bar. However he did make comments about really liking my face and smile...and that translated into an unforgettable experience in the bedroom. Vessey, vinapu, Ruthrieston and 3 others 6 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted June 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ichigo said: I left 2000 baht for him on the bed while he was having a shower, and he wanted 3000. If the whole experience had been amazing then yeah I probably would have paid up but it was pretty average at best. It's exactly why I prefer to fix financial issues before taking off from bar. Doesn't guarantee performance but at least joy killing haggling is avoided. 3000 for short time seems very generous unless guy is built like Adonis and performs very enthusiastically in the room. Clearly guys are trying to make up for the lost time ichigo, Mateo_37, fedssocr and 2 others 5 Quote
Boy69 Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, vinapu said: It's exactly why I prefer to fix financial issues before taking off from bar. Doesn't guarantee performance but at least joy killing haggling is avoided. 3000 for short time seems very generous unless guy is built like Adonis and performs very enthusiastically in the room. Clearly guys are trying to make up for the lost time Yes I agree every side has its own expectations so it's better to negotiate the rates in advance to avoid unnecessary arguments later on. Back to my first visits at the early 2000's it was a bit different I don't remember any negotiatiations with boys they were happy to receive 1000-1500 BHT for ST and 1500-2000 LT and nobody complained but things changed since then living cost raised up and the Thai economy improved dramatically so boys demand much more now and closing fee in advance is a must nowadays. ichigo 1 Quote
Guest Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 6 hours ago, vinapu said: It's exactly why I prefer to fix financial issues before taking off from bar. Doesn't guarantee performance but at least joy killing haggling is avoided. I've tended not to negotiate before leaving a bar, on the basis the boys ought to know the going rate. Perhaps I should review this. But I do confirm prices on Grindr, on the presumption that some of them might be very much part time MBs & not really understand the market. The most straightforward and reasonable experiences from the Bangkok gogo bars were when I was chatting to a lad on Grindr, who happened to be in his gogo bar. So the price was agreed before I went into the bar 4 hours ago, Boy69 said: Back to my first visits at the early 2000's it was a bit different I don't remember any negotiatiations with boys they were happy to receive 1000-1500 BHT for ST and 1500-2000 LT and nobody complained but things changed since then living cost raised up and the Thai economy improved dramatically so boys demand much more now and closing fee in advance is a must nowadays. Thai GDP per capita has gone from: 2000: USD 2000 at 41 baht typical = 82000 baht = 224 baht per day 2020: USD 7189 at 31 baht typical = 222859 baht = 610 baht per day I would have thought that 1500 for short time would have been rather generous back in the early 2000s. Even in 2022, in Bangkok 1500 is still a very commonly quoted price on the apps. Less than 1500 in Pattaya & more like 2000 from the BKK gogo bars. Quote
vinapu Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, z909 said: I would have thought that 1500 for short time would have been rather generous back in the early 2000s. Even in 2022, in Bangkok 1500 is still a very commonly quoted price on the apps. Less than 1500 in Pattaya & more like 2000 from the BKK gogo bars. on my first trip in 2001 I did not know difference between short and long time, read somewhere that tip ( for long time ) of 2000 is generous. So when offed guy from bar to short time room in Suriwong hotel and gave him 2000 because I wanted to be generous , I remember his squeek of joy to this day, day or two later my eyes were opened when boy from BoysBangkok quoted me 1000. Not that I was very active on apps last trip but I can second your findings, out of 2 guys who actually found me on the apps one quoted 1300 another 1500 and one who happened to be my neighbor in hotel also wanted 1500 for not so short time from 3 am till morning. 2000 from bars seems to be what they quoted although some brave ones go to 2500 , whether they are keen on reducing , I did not test but I'm sure most of them will gladly. Discretion in negotiation may be in order as in some bars it seems buys are asked to hold the line so they may say no and then whisper 'ok, ok" Disturbing trend I noticed is the better looking guys want up to 5000 for long time so prospective buyers better be mentally prepared to counteroffer and stand your ground. Some boys will too though, when I said I only can spent 3000 because that's all I have at disposal for tonight one of guys told me that I can pay difference in dollars so I left empty handed, LOL but fortunately LINE provided me with so called V solution reader, ichigo and fedssocr 3 Quote
zoomomancs Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 Hi ichigo, I am also in the Tarntawan since 28th. If you have time to do a coffee and chat sometime, message me on terry6082@gmail.com ichigo 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, vinapu said: day or two later my eyes were opened when boy from BoysBangkok quoted me 1000. The Boys Bangkok bring back so many wonderful memories it was for me the best all time ever gogo bar in Thailand so many amazing boys to choose from and the best fucking shows I ever saw . 4 hours ago, z909 said: would have thought that 1500 for short time would have been rather generous back in the early 2000s. Yes you are right most boys were happy with 1000 ST only the star boys expect to receive more than that back then. ichigo and floridarob 2 Quote
ichigo Posted July 1, 2022 Author Posted July 1, 2022 Thanks for all of the replies guys. Just regarding tip expectations, my last trip in 2019 I didn't discuss the tip beforehand with any of the guys and they were all happy with 2000 baht, which is why I didn't bother discussing the tip beforehand. I understand that inflation happens, and not being able to work for a while during the pandemic so I'm happy to go a little higher if required. I was in Freshboys last night and the mamasan actually told me to tip my guy 2000 baht. I think in future I will discreetly discuss the tip with the guy just so we are all on the same page. Will report on Freshboys later, and also wherever I decide to go tonight - I'm thinking hotmale as I haven't been there before, the new twilight or even dreamboys again as I liked the look of many of the guys there. On another note, I will be going to Chiang Mai on Monday and the flight has already been booked. Pretty excited as I have not been there yet. 23 hours ago, flashbarryallen said: @ichigoYou mentioned that you're not going to connect with everyone and I think that's important for many readers to learn. Agreed. Not every experience will be perfect (well in my case anyway) but on the plus side, it is always nice to spend some sexy times with these handsome young men. 22 hours ago, vinapu said: 3000 for short time seems very generous unless guy is built like Adonis and performs very enthusiastically in the room. Agree - the better they make my experience, the more money I will give. They could be faking it for all I care but as long as it is believable and memorable, I don't mind too much! 12 hours ago, zoomomancs said: Hi ichigo, I am also in the Tarntawan since 28th. If you have time to do a coffee and chat sometime, message me on terry6082@gmail.com Will email you if I find myself at a loose end! vinapu and Boy69 2 Quote
flashbarryallen Posted July 1, 2022 Posted July 1, 2022 7 hours ago, ichigo said: Will report on Freshboys later, and also wherever I decide to go tonight - I'm thinking hotmale as I haven't been there before, the new twilight or even dreamboys again as I liked the look of many of the guys there I think you might find similar types in HotMale and DreamBoys. I loved the rough, straight, and well-built guys I saw there last night and liked the vibe way more than Jupiter or Moonlight. ichigo 1 Quote
Popular Post a-447 Posted July 1, 2022 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2022 21 hours ago, vinapu said: on my first trip in 2001 I did not know difference between short and long time, read somewhere that tip ( for long time ) of 2000 is generous. So when offed guy from bar to short time room in Suriwong hotel and gave him 2000 because I wanted to be generous , I remember his squeek of joy to this day, day or two later my eyes were opened when boy from BoysBangkok quoted me 1000. I did a similar thing. On my first visits in the early 2000s I was paying my regular guy, Jack, 3000 baht ST because I had no idea what the going rate was. But I don't regret it because he had an amazing long, fat Isaan dick and a slim, toned body. I was in heaven! I couldn't believe he was actually standing there in my room, naked and with a massive hard-on. And that I could enjoy his company every single night. I think I got great value for my money so no complaints from me. At that time I was top only, as was he, but we still had a good time. If I met him today I'd willingly bend over for him. lol I saw him 15 years or so later in Boys Bangkok and he hadn't changed at all! Damn! Ryanqqq, vaughn, ichigo and 4 others 6 1 Quote
vinapu Posted July 1, 2022 Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, a-447 said: On my first visits in the early 2000s I was paying my regular guy, Jack, 3000 baht ST ................ At that time I was top only, as was he, but we still had a good time. If I met him today I'd willingly bend over for him. lol that was princely sum indeed at that time , hope he did not squander that money world is small place and you may bump into him somewhere sometime on my last trip I met accidentally few guys from the past I thought I'll never see again ichigo 1 Quote
Popular Post Londoner Posted July 1, 2022 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2022 I don't wish to be melancholic- particularly with my return only a week away- but when we are too old for this game, what will stay in our memories won't be a 3000bht here and there, but the pleasures such encounters gave. And still do in retrospect. ichigo, floridarob, Ruthrieston and 2 others 5 Quote
Ruthrieston Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 I remember my first trip to Thailand in 1998, with a group of friends who included two veterans of many previous visits, the going rate for short time in Pattaya was 600 Baht. Ah, the good old days! floridarob, Londoner, ichigo and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post ichigo Posted July 2, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted July 2, 2022 Freshboys: A good selection of beautiful guys here. I haven't been on the gogo scene for that long (my first time offing a guy was in dec 2019, and I just frequented massage establishments in the few trips prior to that), and my first guy I ever offed from a gogo bar was from freshboys - an enthusiastic Lao guy who did everything. Was a memorable experience. So anyway, the show was pretty standard stuff but gets a little repetitive after a while, no? My favourite part of any show would probably be the big cock show because so many dicks on display.. delicious. There was this one guy who kept trying to get my attention more than any of the other guys but against my better judgement I chose a different guy, beautiful twink guy, slightly muscly with beautiful tattoos and a strong jawline. Ended up being from Laos as well. Didn't have to discuss the tip because mamasan just told me to give him 2000, she also let me know that he is top only, which is totally fine. Tipped the guy that was trying to get my attention on the way out. Anyhow, I don't usually discuss expectations as I just go with the flow and adapt to what is presented to me, and back in the bedroom was pretty average but enjoyable - pretty sure he was straight as he didn't do much except fuck me (which was quite good actually due to size and curvature). Some potential there, beautiful guy though. Hotmale: My first time here last night. The grabber hugged me on the way in and out as if he knew me, seems nice though. Quality selection of guys here, mostly muscly (but not Tawan muscly) and some twinks too. I even saw a guy in the rotation who I had offed in 2019 when he used to work at Lucky Boys. Standard show, but the big cock show was probably the best out of them all. wow. very nice. Like last night, there was one guy who tried really hard to get my attention and he was very enthusiastic about it too and kept making me laugh with his antics while he was on the stage. Was also in the big cock show. I figured that effort should be rewarded and ended up offing him. I also saw another customer do a vinapu tuck, and same customer or another (can't remember) throw a bunch of 100 baht notes up in the air for the boys, they seemed to enjoy it. Anyway, went back to the hotel with my guy and he actually is a lot of fun - a bit hyperactive for my liking as I'm pretty chill but reasonable command of the English language. For some reason he kept thinking that I was Thai due to the very small amount of vocabulary I used (and also because I look ethnically ambiguous), and kept talking to me in Thai which I kept saying I didn't understand, but he didn't believe it lol. He really really wanted to fuck me but I had to decline numerous times as he was quite big, and I had already been fucked earlier that day. I need a rest! He quoted "2000 up" for the tip and I gave him 2200 for an enjoyable evening. Made sure to get his line contact before he left. Pretty fun guy and nice end to the night. Food: I've been mostly using grab food as I want to eat lots of local food, but don't really know the good places for it. Grab is perfect for this as I can choose what I want to eat from the app and have it delivered very cheap. Most of the menu items are in Thai so I just look at the pictures to decide what I want to eat, sometimes I don't even know what it is but it is all aroy maak. Other places I tried include the highly recommended foodland (pretty decent), a Thai restaurant on Golden Cock street (I don't know the name of it lol) that I randomly stumbled onto (also decent), G's Bangkok (the schnitzel was average, however the bread and garlic butter was amazing, served on ridiculously large plates, and the owner circulates around and talks to the customers and at one point calling me a young boy - I mean I'm pushing 40 but thank you), a restaurant downstairs in iconsiam, and the hotel restaurant (ordered som tum 'mai pet' but still came out spicy). Later tonight I will go to Dreamboys again as I really liked the selection of guys there. reader, 10tazione, fedssocr and 11 others 14 Quote
flashbarryallen Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, ichigo said: Hotmale: My first time here last night. The grabber hugged me on the way in and out as if he knew me, seems nice though. Quality selection of guys here, mostly muscly (but not Tawan muscly) and some twinks too. Glad you went to check it out! They weren't joking about the hot part in Hot Male. I only wish they would learn a lesson from Boyz Boyz Boyz in Pattaya and make the show sexier and with a lot more guys participating. While I love the muscle at Tawan, Hot Male has a much higher quality of eye candy than I remembered from my previous trips. ichigo and Ryanqqq 2 Quote
ichigo Posted July 2, 2022 Author Posted July 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, flashbarryallen said: Hot Male has a much higher quality of eye candy Could not agree more! flashbarryallen 1 Quote
flashbarryallen Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 Funny story about the eye candy part from last night. I was leaving my hotel to get dinner, and I saw a really good looking guy hanging out in the lobby. Based off the way he was dressed, I had a feeling he was an MB and maybe waiting for a client. Then, a couple hours later, when I went to Hot Male downstairs and was having a drink, I saw that same exact guy going up the stairs to go into the bar. No wonder he gave me a look of recognition because I must have seen him on stage two nights ago when I offed a guy from HotMale. Actually, I am finding that the tout and older man mamasan in Hot Male are quite friendly and I get just an overall good vibe from the bar. Now I just need to find a way to let the Cambodian in the downstairs bar know that I'm not interested. vinapu and ichigo 2 Quote
vinapu Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, ichigo said: G's Bangkok ...... and the owner circulates around and talks to the customers and at one point calling me a young boy - I wish I could say the same , even if I was dining there almost daily it never happened but at least he did not call me KFC ichigo 1 Quote
vinapu Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, flashbarryallen said: . Now I just need to find a way to let the Cambodian in the downstairs bar know that I'm not interested. just tell him that or if you shy, buy him a drink and tell him ' my friend likes you" ichigo and flashbarryallen 1 1 Quote
Min Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 54 minutes ago, flashbarryallen said: Now I just need to find a way to let the Cambodian in the downstairs bar know that I'm not interested. That Cambodian is crazy about Caucasian males. Every time a farang customer walks by, he's literally salivating. 49 minutes ago, vinapu said: I wish I could say the same , even if I was dining there almost daily it never happened but at least he did not call me KFC He might think it though ichigo and vinapu 1 1 Quote
