Short time is not 1 hour, right?

[Tartegogo]

Just want to check, before I arrive, so I am not under-expecting:

When they say “short time”, they never mean 1 hour (like in US / Europe, where it is strictly timed, and if you want more you have to pay the second hour at basically the same rate), in Thailand they mean a good 2 hours?

Is there a market for even cheaper, for a really short time (1 hour) for the locals?

[reader]

If you have a very quick trigger, some guys may fall back on old proverb: you come, I go.

I think it’s a wise practice to pace yourself—and your partner—to avoid premature climax.

 

[vinapu]

27 minutes ago, Tartegogo said:

When they say “short time”, they never mean 1 hour (like in US / Europe, where it is strictly timed, and if you want more you have to pay the second hour at basically the same rate), in Thailand they mean a good 2 hours?

 

take reader's advice seriously . 

On another hand you are correct, nobody will measure time Western style so if you take it slow  your bed will be warmed for 2, perhaps even bit more,  hours.

If , as reader said , you have quick trigger you can still tell guy you want him to stay with you for 2 hrs and most will do without any fuss.

Long time on another had is till breakfast , whenever it happens, sometims at 6 , sometimes at 10  

[Olddaddy]

Very very rarely have I had a guy more than really 1 hour.

I tend to like it done quick and I get bored after more than say 1 hour .

Its not timed just I like to take a guy back to my room and basically get on with it .

Sometimes short time to me is less than 30 minutes!

And yes I do tell guys that and some lower their prices back to 500b , that is going back a few years but if they are close by some will do less price for less time .

As for long time I'm not keen as I'm more a loner and I prefer sleeping by myself at night.

[Londoner]

You won't get a phone call like  you would in the Amsterdam brothels that taught me how to be gay in the 90s.

In Thailand, I appreciated a chat, and drink from the minibar, before and after. In fact, I was a little cross if the time was exclusively bed-centred, noting that the best performances usually followed some degree of social interaction. 

[Gaybutton]

It has been my experience "short time" means you give him his money and he leaves when you are done with your "activities".  Usually that means about 1  to 3 hours.  I've never had a boy click a stopwatch and tell me time's up.

Don't forget, "short time" does not necessarily mean you take him off and go immediately to your hotel room.  It could mean first taking him out to dinner, taking him for a legitimate body or foot massage, taking him to a karaoke or concert if one is in town - then going to your hotel.

What I usually do is the longer I have him with me, the greater his tip - especially if you're both really enjoying whatever you're doing and each other's company - and if you can tell the boy isn't faking it.

"Long time" to me means he sleeps with you overnight.

One thing I've seen farang do, and I don't recommend it at all, is take a boy off and then take him to another gay bar.  Unless the boy suggests it himself (which he might do if he has a friend working at another bar), don't do that.  I can't think of a way to bore him more.  He works in a bar.  Does anyone really think his idea of a fun evening is to go to another bar?  The only reason I would ever do that would be if there is a bar show he wants to see.  Otherwise, do something else.

[Tartegogo]

4 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

I tend to like it done quick and I get bored after more than say 1 hour

This is quite common and why in the West the prices are by the hour. Many clients are in line with this timescale. 

The most extreme I heard is an escort who told me that he once got paid a full hour for less than 10 minutes in a Scarsdale mansion. His client was in a bathroom, he only half-undressed the escort, grabbed a condom, came in 3 minutes, and paid him and told him they were done. 
The client basically needed to empty his blue balls, nothing else. 

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

I tend to like it done quick and I get bored after more than say 1 hour .

 

how one can  get bored in presence of young male talent it's mystery  but perhaps it's just me.

That boy can get bored in our presence , this I can buy easily , after all he is at work.

5 hours ago, Londoner said:

In Thailand, I appreciated a chat, and drink from the minibar, before and after. In fact, I was a little cross if the time was exclusively bed-centred, noting that the best performances usually followed some degree of social interaction. 

and that's what additional time , secured by previous agreement comes handy. I in fact prefer social interaction part  to be in the beginning of meeting , feels less task oriented.

2 hours ago, Gaybutton said:

It has been my experience "short time" means you give him his money and he leaves when you are done with your "activities".  Usually that means about 1  to 3 hours.  I've never had a boy click a stopwatch and tell me time's up.

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One thing I've seen farang do, and I don't recommend it at all, is take a boy off and then take him to another gay bar.  Unless the boy suggests it himself (which he might do if he has a friend working at another bar), don't do that.  The only reason I would ever do that would be if there is a bar show he wants to see.

 

I agree on both counts although as with everything there are rare exceptions. I had few cases when guy wanted to right after grand finale, usually during bar opening hours m perhaps hoping for another off  - point no to take guy too early.

Just like you mentioned I noticed few times they want to see another bar to show off their  new ATM to their friend there. In one case guy moved to other bar few days later so I thought  he dragged me there to see how it is at my expense.

Speaking about expense - you take boy there , you need to buy him  a drink. Often also drink for his friend who works there so 400 baht trip will become 1200 foray. He may prefer cash instead, 400 baht it may be food for quite a few days if he , like many guys cooks for himself or even cheaper , pools with his roommates.

Usually if I want to see the show in another bar , I tell the guy I pay off fee now, I go to the xxxxx bar to see the show and collect you later. If he wants to see that show , that's the moment he will tell me ' can I go with you ?" Most often they won't so this is how I know Gaybutton is correct - don't drag him there if he don't initiate an idea.

1 hour ago, Tartegogo said:

The most extreme I heard is an escort who told me that he once got paid a full hour for less than 10 minutes

I heard similar story  from one of Tawan boys when I asked him if other clients are as kissy and cuddly then me ?, many are , many not  he said and cited similar story including partial undressing part. Don't remember amount but he was tipped for his short effort handsomely, blue ball or complete newbie case most likely.

He also told me that many clients just off guy to talk and drink and not much happens in terms of sex . I heard the same from local girl here whom I met on different business but I knew what job she does and was quite talkative about it.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Londoner said:

You won't get a phone call like  you would in the Amsterdam brothels that taught me how to be gay in the 90s.

Usually not. 

My off from Classic Boys once got a call from the obnoxious mamasan asking him to go back.    It was only about 40 minute after leaving the bar, so well under half an hour in the hotel.      I had even tipped the mamasan, but I made sure it was the last time that mamasan got a tip out of me.

 

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, z909 said:

Usually not. 

My off from Classic Boys once got a call from the obnoxious mamasan asking him to go back.    It was only about 40 minute after leaving the bar, so well under half an hour in the hotel.      I had even tipped the mamasan, but I made sure it was the last time that mamasan got a tip out of me.

 

I remember that story, It's one of reasons I very rarely seek help of mamasans to bring absent guy, being afraid I may involuntarily snatch him from embraces of somebody.

I know taste as I had case of guy who told me he needs to go with somebody else exactly at time when I was to pay his off fee. My suspicion was  that he was ordered to change  customers by the management. 

[JackR]

I don't need an hour 😂

[hotbyu]

I took a guy to BBB inn one time for a short time stay, and I am not fast.  It was probably 2.5hrs and the "hotel" staff kept knocking on the door every 30 mins or so.  It was so annoying, they did not get that it would only take me longer to be done with my business.

[Boy69]

The time conception in  East Asia is completely different then the west, If you take a boy for ST it can be less than half an hour "you come I go" or few hours if there is good chemistry with the boy so there is no definitive time frame for ST. For example I took very beautiful Vietnamese  from Screw Boys bar in BKK he was amazing in bed but all the session was about half hour he took a shower we do our business and he left . In Pattaya I took a boy from Grinder he came to my amazing suite in East Suites at Jomtien complex after we done he was so antusiasted from the apartment and wanted to try the Jacuzzi and we have a talk and drink and he stayed for almost 3 hours with no extra fee then agreed. I personally never understood the overnight long term concept unless a client wants multiple sex sessions with the boy all night what is the point to have a boy just for sleeping with you , maybe some are feeling so lonely in their life so staying overnight with a boy  compensate their loneliness?

[floridarob]

15 minutes ago, Boy69 said:

I personally never understood the overnight long term concept unless a client wants multiple sex sessions with the boy all night what is the point to have a boy just for sleeping with you , maybe some are feeling so lonely in their life so staying overnight with a boy  compensate their loneliness?

I prefer to sleep alone in bed, also not worrying about my cell phone.

But the wording there is def going to get some comments , no doubt.

[Min]

19 hours ago, Gaybutton said:

One thing I've seen farang do, and I don't recommend it at all, is take a boy off and then take him to another gay bar.  Unless the boy suggests it himself (which he might do if he has a friend working at another bar), don't do that. 

Noted with thanks.

17 hours ago, Tartegogo said:

The most extreme I heard is an escort who told me that he once got paid a full hour for less than 10 minutes in a Scarsdale mansion. His client was in a bathroom, he only half-undressed the escort, grabbed a condom, came in 3 minutes, and paid him and told him they were done. 

An MB boy in Vietnam told me this story: A middle-aged customer picked him up from a public park (where MBs in Hanoi often ply their trade) and they went to a short-time hotel nearby by the customer's motorbike. The boy was the driver, and the customer snuggled right behind him, hugging him tight, touching his genitals while they were on the way. The customer came before they even reached the hotel. So the boy just collected his fee and was on his way while the customer used the hotel to wash himself

23 minutes ago, Boy69 said:

I personally never understood the overnight long term concept ... what is the point to have a boy just for sleeping with you , maybe some are feeling so lonely in their life so staying overnight with a boy  compensate their loneliness?

This question may hit close to home for some members here.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Min said:

An MB boy in Vietnam told me this story: A middle-aged customer picked him up from a public park (where MBs in Hanoi often ply their trade)

Does this still work in Hanoi ?      Phones seem to have killed cruising in many countries.   Also, for future visitors, which park ?

 

1 hour ago, Min said:

...they went to a short-time hotel nearby by the customer's motorbike. The boy was the driver, and the customer snuggled right behind him, hugging him tight, touching his genitals while they were on the way. The customer came before they even reached the hotel. So the boy just collected his fee and was on his way while the customer used the hotel to wash himself

This question may hit close to home for some members here.

The customer must be starved of sex.    A bit more activity would fix this problem and some.  

[spoon]

4 hours ago, hotbyu said:

I took a guy to BBB inn one time for a short time stay, and I am not fast.  It was probably 2.5hrs and the "hotel" staff kept knocking on the door every 30 mins or so.  It was so annoying, they did not get that it would only take me longer to be done with my business.

Lol i always thought this too whenever someone try to rush me, i was like dude, u know itll just take me longer if u do that hahaha.

[spoon]

3 hours ago, Boy69 said:

I personally never understood the overnight long term concept unless a client wants multiple sex sessions with the boy all night what is the point to have a boy just for sleeping with you , maybe some are feeling so lonely in their life so staying overnight with a boy  compensate their loneliness?

Yup you are right, i guess all the people in the world who doesnt like sleeping alone is lonely 

[Guest]

8 hours ago, floridarob said:

I prefer to sleep alone in bed, also not worrying about my cell phone

question - is Thailand is considered much safer, compared to Brazil or DR ?  That’s the impression I get from posts here because personal safety doesn’t seem to be discussed  much.  Another impression is Thai government & laws are more formidable compared to South America/Caribbean countries - so citizens more likely to obey the laws and tourists are safer ?

This thread is great because I wanted to know ST vs LT and that’s been answered.  
An “off” seems to be taking a boy out if a club for ST or LT ?

I have much to learn here !

[Boy69]

48 minutes ago, Slvkguy said:

question - is Thailand is considered much safer, compared to Brazil or DR ?  That’s the impression I get from posts here because personal safety doesn’t seem to be discussed  much.  Another impression is Thai government & laws are more formidable compared to South America/Caribbean countries - so citizens more likely to obey the laws and tourists are safer ?

This thread is great because I wanted to know ST vs LT and that’s been answered.  
An “off” seems to be taking a boy out if a club for ST or LT ?

I have much to learn here !

Yes Thailand is very safe country but that doesn't mean that you have to be carefree, It's better to secure all your valuable things at the safe box . I am traveling in Thailand more then 20 years all I can say is that the Thai people are wonderful  and never had any problems there.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Slvkguy said:

question - is Thailand is considered much safer, compared to Brazil or DR ?  That’s the impression I get from posts here because personal safety doesn’t seem to be discussed  much. 

I remember someone with quite a prominent role on this forum saying if you walk down the road by the beach in Rio at night, walk on the side with the hotels, as if you walk down the beach side of the road, you're going to get robbed.    Getting robbed isn't even something I think about in Thailand.    I also walk wherever I want to, day or night.

 

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, Slvkguy said:

question - is Thailand is considered much safer, compared to Brazil or DR ?

Yes it is, but if you meet a guy on an app or in DJ Station, lumpini park, a mall, the same goes as in Brasil, if you didn't find them in a sauna or gogo bar.....be careful no matter which country. I've had things stolen from me in those situations....in Thailand.

Fake profile pics are more rampant in Asia than Brasil, is why I prefer in person meetings....

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Yes it is, but if you meet a guy on an app or in DJ Station, lumpini park, a mall, the same goes as in Brasil, if you didn't find them in a sauna or gogo bar.....be careful no matter which country. I've had things stolen from me in those situations....in Thailand.

In Thailand, I've had one item stolen in 15 years & that was only a 500 baht item from the mini bar.     

Of course, my wallet and all valuables except the phone get locked in my room safe.

 

 

54 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Fake profile pics are more rampant in Asia than Brasil, is why I prefer in person meetings....

In Thailand, a fake profile pic isn't usually a safety risk.   

The only risk is having to send him away, if the "wrong" boy shows up.    Even that must be considered as totally preventable, via various proven methods discussed here many times.

 

 

[Min]

1 hour ago, floridarob said:

if you meet a guy in lumpini park

Can we still pick up MBs from Lumpini park nowaday?

9 hours ago, z909 said:

Does this still work in Hanoi ?      Phones seem to have killed cruising in many countries.   Also, for future visitors, which park ?

Still, but much more limited because of the apps. 20 years ago, it was the only way for us to find MBs. These days, there are 2 parks in Hanoi: Thong Nhat park and Hoa Binh park, the former located near the city center and much more accessible to foreigners. But again, I don't think you guys should venture out there on your own without a local friend to "chaperone". FYI: the on-going rate in these parks could be as low as 2 USD for a bj, 5 USD for ST and 10 USD for LT. Boys are mostly straight, fresh from a rural province, trying to survive in a big city.

Actually, since a picture's worth a thousand words, I went ahead tonight and took some pictures there in the Thong Nhat park, so you guys would have some ideas. All four boys in the pictures are MBs.

[vinapu]

21 hours ago, Boy69 said:

 I personally never understood the overnight long term concept .................. what is the point to have a boy just for sleeping with you 

to have boy handy for morning exercises ?