Guest lvdkeyes Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Can anyone explain why little Tommyboy Cruise has an American accent in Valkyrie? Is it just because he isn't a good enough actor to do a German accent? Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I haven't seen the movie yet, but does your question mean that everyone else playing a German adopts a German accent? If so, then it's idiotic in my view. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I haven't seen the movie yet, but does your question mean that everyone else playing a German adopts a German accent? If so, then it's idiotic in my view. You think it's idiotic to expect for an actor playing an officer in the German army to have a German accent? Why do you think most actors use dialect coaches in order to get an accent right in a film? Quote
Guest laurence Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Well it seems that Colonel von Stauffenberg attended school in England and spoke perfect English, thus TommyBoy should be speaking with a British accent. Oh, ok, you really don't believe that do you? Sometimes those phony accents are so atrocious it is better not even to try. Out of curiosity did the other English speaking actors use an accent? My guess is that they did. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Well it seems that Colonel von Stauffenberg attended school in England and spoke perfect English, thus TommyBoy should be speaking with a British accent. Oh, ok, you really don't believe that do you? Sometimes those phony accents are so atrocious it is better not even to try. Out of curiosity did the other English speaking actors use an accent? My guess is that they did. I have only seen the previews. The film opens here next week. Quote
Gaybutton Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I have only seen the previews. The film opens here next week. I've seen it. I think the main reason Tom Cruise plays Stauffenberg is because he bears a strong resemblance to the actual Stauffenberg. There is another film entitled "Stauffenberg." It's entirely in German, but I think it's a much better film than "Valkyrie." Also, if anybody remembers the mini-series (I have it on DVD) "War and Remembrance," they did an excellent job of portraying the incident. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 You think it's idiotic to expect for an actor playing an officer in the German army to have a German accent? Why do you think most actors use dialect coaches in order to get an accent right in a film? I was obviously not specific enough in my original answer. I meant it's "idiotic" for Cruise not to adopt a German accent if the other actors do it. Do they all do German accents apart from him? Mind you, I have seen a lot of movies where well known actors try to adopt foreign accents which only succeed in sounding as bad as Inspector Clouseau's French accent (and that was supposed to be funny!). Jeremy Irons' German accent in "Die Hard II" was dire. Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 I was obviously not specific enough in my original answer. I meant it's "idiotic" for Cruise not to adopt a German accent if the other actors do it. Do they all do German accents apart from him? Mind you, I have seen a lot of movies where well known actors try to adopt foreign accents which only succeed in sounding as bad as Inspector Clouseau's French accent (and that was supposed to be funny!). Jeremy Irons' German accent in "Die Hard II" was dire. From the previews, it seems that all the others have German accents except Tommyboy. Quote
Guest laurence Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 From the previews, it seems that all the others have German accents except Tommyboy. Some of them are actually German or Dutch actors and most of the others are good British actors. As far as the worst ever German accent, it had to be Omar Sharif in Night of the Generals where he portrayed some lisping, effeminate German officer. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 most of the others are good British actors Do they all try to speak in fake German accents? Quote
Guest shebavon Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Apart from TC's lackluster performance, it's worth a look. Definitely not Oscar material. Quote
Guest Astrrro Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 I haven't seen the movie either. Re accents, I really hate when people talk with phony 18th century British accents in period pieces. I'd rather take like normal 21st century people minus the most recent slang. Quote
Gaybutton Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Re accents, I really hate when people talk with phony 18th century British accents in period pieces. I don't mind that so much. You're probably not old enough to remember, but many years ago, of all people Tony Curtis played in a crummy movie called "The Son of Ali Baba." He was famous for saying, in his Brooklyn accent, "Yondah lies the castle of my faddah." Somehow, neither he nor the movie made it to the Academy Award nomination list. I think one of the best phony accents was Vivian Leigh in "Gone with the Wind." Here's a bit of trivia I bet you never noticed. In "Ben Hur" the director, William Wyler, intentionally had all the Judeans speak in an American accent and all the Romans speak with a British accent. He did that to set them apart from each other. Quote
