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Unexpected reunions and few shattered dreams - 22nd trip to Thailand in May 2022

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2 hours ago, ukvagabond said:

made an account to say, thank you for sharing your experiences. I'm going for the first time in a month and i can't wait. :)

if you don't mind me asking, what "liturgical questions" do you make sure to ask? I've heard that you always need to make sure they will bottom. Is there anything else?

we all know "can't wait " feeling

as for 'liturgical questions' it depends of what is important to you, specially fundamental one like who will bottom should be settled before offing rites.

My set is:

'do you go with me?" ( I think it's polite not to assume anything so I always ask that even boys I offed many times before, once I heard " I must think about it " but I enrolled mamasan to help and all went well )

"long time"  ( as macaroni said , not all are keen but I'm so I make sure, again I ask it even boys with multiple offs before )

''do you kiss " (not condition to off but I like to know, I don't want to force myself on him )

'how much do you want " ( I like to have financials fixed , again even with guys I offed on previous trips . If answer is " up to you " I  place an offer. I don't haggle though, I may counteroffer once but after that it's either his quote or mine , I'm not shy to say "too much " though )  

that's all in the bar

on the street  I ask two more

' do you want to eat something"    ( long timers only, I like my guys to be fed so they don't run early in the morning feeling hungry)

 'are we walking"   ( if hotel is walking distance )

and one more in the room :

' we shower together? "   ( some guys are surprisingly shy in the room, other may simply want to use toilet beforehand so I don't force issue )

all other question I may have I don't consider liturgical, when passing by 7/11 I usually ask if they want something from there, in the room I ask if they want  drink something

 

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Love Shameless Mack, 

See the old report from Bondi , time has gone quick 

I wonder what ever happened to the lovely 2 guys who owned Bondi,I think one was a air steward? I believe they were from the UK 

Didn't at one stage the Bondi was the former Venue?

 

Although this is an old report from 2011, it may still be a useful reminder not to accept, uncritically, products and services – or their pricing – from any vendor who flies the rainbow flag.

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Yes someone just confirmed to me that the Bondi was once in the same building as The Venue?

But I do recall it being down towards the beach as well, I can't remember,I'm getting old now😂

I always found it strange two guys from the UK would name their hotel bar the same name as a famous Sydney beach 😊

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10 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

In gogo bars most will not bottom, in massage parlours, about half will not. So, to avoid disappointment or unpleasantness later, it's important to settle this question beforehand. 

Do note that nearly all boys, even when they agree to bottom, will insist on protected sex.

From gogo bars, all will do short time, but some cannot do overnight (commitments early morning, for example) so if you're keen on long-time (overnight), ask first.

As for fees, some of us settle that in advance too, but some other members leave that unsaid. As a newbie, it may be better to settle that question in advance too at least until you're surer about the going rates.

 

Thank you

(And by the way thanks for your amazing map which I just found! (https://shamelessmacktwotravel.files.wordpress.com/2022/07/locality_map_4405_v2.png?w=1024 in case anyone missed.)

are Pattaya gogos more willing to bottom? I've heard they tend to run twinkier

 

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