Unexpected reunions and few shattered dreams - 22nd trip to Thailand in May 2022

[jason1975]

You are so well known! Every corner you meet someone who knows you!

[vinapu]

20 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

You are so well known! Every corner you meet someone who knows you!

mixed blessing I guess.

In bar where few boys know you each of them expects you off them and palms are stretched for a tips as well.

On another hand BS is easier to avoid due to known quality. 

[vinapu]

Day 11

Bay View restaurant was not opened  yet so for breakfast we went by baht bus all the way  to Kiss and despite early ( for Pattaya ) hours  they were quite busy, in fact I think we took last free table. We parted ways after that , I went again to exchange money, what else at such a pace and to Internet café to catch with my e-mails. Then some aimless wandering here and there.

Early afternoon I took motorsai , just for sake of supporting economy ( 60 baht) to Jomtien Complex to see Nara in his shop for good bye 1.5 hr massage. Driver dumped me on the main road and while passing by in one of massage shops I noticed quite handsome and muscly ,  heavily tattooed hunk and took note of his presence just in case. But I kept my plan , had massage with Nara, tipped him 2000 as it was our last meeting this trip and invited him for a meal to French restaurant on the corner as I wanted to taste that duck leg mentioned yesterday.

It was great but not better than one I’m making  I noted proudly. After meals we kissed out good bye, Nara is not shy guy. He went to his shop and I went to look for songtaew but recalled that handsome masseur and decided to see if he is still there.

He was so I just motioned and we went inside for another massage, session was good, he was muscular and well endowed , kissy,  huggy but there was something I did not like –strange odor coming from his skin. Not smell, not even unpleasant  but it bothered me. No idea what it could be – soap, some skin cream or other cosmetic, diet, result of taking some medication or substance , whatever it was , it spoiled my experience. I did not say anything, tipped him my normal rate 1000 / hr and went home bit disappointed as he was prime material for a night long session. Oh well , I need to find some substitution. And I got an idea who it will be, P and R from my first night in Pattaya and yesterday party in Dreamboys.

 So  I freshened up, shaved and went to Pickety for people watching. My yesterday’s guy was busy with guests  but it was Ok as my mind was fixed. After finishing beer changed sides to BBB, ordered some drink and asked mamasan about my guys. There weren’t  there yet but he assured me they will come as they are at the gym. Oiled with 100 baht tip , he even  called  them to confirm.

P showed soon , R bit later. L , our companion 2 night ago seeing what is going on stopped by hoping  he will be third but ‘just two tonight “ I said , consoled him with red note, paid 1000 off fee  and off we went to Bay View for a dinner passing by Suwit shop. He was not there but was keeping watchful eye from somewhere because soon after we sat down for a meal I got Line message ‘ two boys tonight my Casanova “ from him.

 In 7/11 we stocked on few beers and went to the room. Both are very talkative , P more on shy side , R quite opposite , undressed right away as he explained he doesn’t like chain of dress  when inside.

They told me a lot about their lives and friendship and at one point, I swear it was not my idea, P asked if his brother B whom we met last evening in Dreamboys can join. Holly molly thought I but of course  agreed, in few minutes phone rung and P went to pick him up downstairs. He looked even more handsome than yesterday and perhaps most manly of them three , explained by age difference.

 Thankfully we were well stocked with beer and also few snacks so we feed him and fun continued until time came to go to bed. I had 2 spare towels so showering was no problem but to keep things civilized I suggested I will shower with each of them separately. After all we have two brothers here.

Other guys were familiar with procedure from 2 days ago, B, last in line to get wet  was visibly shy, I sense he must be new in the business and never showered with customer before but he soldiered on with smile.

 When we emerged it looked  that other two boys not only made some order on the table after all that    drinks and snacks  but also thought well about bed arrangement reserving right half of bed for us two latecomers. That way brothers were separated by R and me , eliminated any brotherly awkwardness in such a situation.

 No , we did not have any foursome, that would be gross. I had three guys with me  to enjoy their company one by one so obviously at one point I switched places with R in order for P not to feel abandoned or discriminated . In process I understood what it means to sleep with the phone, R literally was clutching his all night.

It was fun and thanks to mutual co-operation and understanding we avoided anything we possibly could feel uneasy about recalling it later. Sure R emerged in the morning from under the sheets sporting glorious erection but from reaction of other two it was clear he is not shy in their room either , they all live together in one room with one more guy who I understand doesn’t  work in  a bar.

Morning distribution of tips ended such fabulous day 11, they declined offer of breakfast saying that they have food at home they want to eat otherwise it may be unusable later. Thank you my glorious boys  I thought after they left, what a night ! 

[jason1975]

Yes a foursome is definitely an unforgettable night!

[Boy69]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

He was so I just motioned and we went inside for another massage, session was good, he was muscular and well endowed , kissy,  huggy but there was something I did not like –strange odor coming from his skin. Not smell, not even unpleasant  but it bothered me. No idea what it could be – soap, some skin cream or other cosmetic, diet, result of taking some medication or substance , whatever it was , it spoiled my experience.

It happened to me 2 years ago I invited to my room a boy from Grinder who worked at at one of the massage places in Pattaya he was nice with attractive body but a very strange odor from his skin spoiled all the fun I just praied that the massage will end as soon as possible.

 

Great report Vinapu you are becoming an icon here. lol.

My impression is that you had more adventurous and fun in Pattaya then Bangkok ?

 

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, Boy69 said:

Great report Vinapu you are becoming an icon here. lol.

 

better not considering that saints on icons are mostly  dead and I don't even start with me being  saint.

as for comparison of Bangkok  and Pattaya parts of trip, yes Pattaya was more adventurous with all those crowded beds but Bangkok guys were more hunky so at end of day I think I liked Bangkok better, no surprise here.

[Min]

11 hours ago, vinapu said:

they all live together in one room with one more guy who I understand doesn’t  work in  a bar.

Somehow, I think this episode will be repeated with one more guy to join the festive group 😄

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, Min said:

Somehow, I think this episode will be repeated with one more guy to join the festive group 😄

I'm not saying no, but not this trip as it was my last night in Pattaya and I returned to Bangkok as we learn when I post next day later today (or tomorrow for those who are in different time zone ).

While I liked those two multi boys nights I must state that my preference is still one on one . Multi boys may be more fun but one on one is more romantic. That gives me idea for next time if they still be there and I find them still attractive - dinner together than drinking in the room for fun part , then boys sent away   with exception of one designated to be romantic partner for that night.

Why I say " if I find them still attractive " ? This is a life . I don't meant particularly those three but most likely most of us experienced it in the past . Guy we salivated about last trip , all of the sudden doesn't seem to be so glorious now  even if nothing changed. Or even worse - he doesn't seem to pay any attention to us, avoiding even eye contact or pretending we never met.

Of course it works both ways, guy previously overlooked now shines like  a star and one who sported blank eye then, now is all smiles and winks. 

Actual off seems to be often breaking point. I used to have big hots for certain model offed him twice despite some antics on first off and only after 2nd time when those antics were repeated I realized that hots are gone for good. 

On another hand X featuring in my trip stories never paid any attention to me when he was in bar to extend then in order to off him I searched help of another member but after first , somewhat forced off we hit it on with multiple repeats. No double my handsomeness is the factor, otherwise what it could be ?

 

[vinapu]

doubled post, I'm sorry

[vinapu]

Day 12

Soon after they left  I realized that today is supposed to be a DAY for me as I hoped I will be able , after multi year waiting,  to off Handsome Cambodian  ( HC )from Jupiter, dream of mine for a good while. So by my own choice I switched  today to  “ wait for the evening “ mode.

Going for breakfast I notice Suwit waiting  already in front of  the shop , still closed that early , so grabbed him and we went for breakfast at BayView, it was actually nice , breezy morning.

As he knew , today I’m returning to Bangkok,  we kissed good bye  , literally in middle of the soi as neither of us is that shy. Then I went to the room to pack and at noon on the dot I left for Jomtien bus station to catch my 1 pm bus for which I bought ticket yesterday. I took motorsai for 50 baht.

Bus was full. Heavy traffic and it took 2 hours to get to Swampy so in the hotel I was close to 4 p.m.

You know what was on my mind all that time.

My hotel now for next 3 nights will be Furama Exclusive Sathorn, in sub soi close to both soi 3 where Baan Silom is and to Chong Nonsi station. After Raya,  it's becoming my most favorite hotel in Silom area , big rooms with balconies and breakfast included, no problems with visitors, there are always    some taxis, motorsais and tuktuks waiting outside and there’s cheap  local restaurant across the soi.  Breakfast is buffet type, not very sophisticated but varied and adequate enough with few Asian dishes so our guys may have choice they prefer.

As weekend was looming I went to XOne to exchange money, stocked there with 100 baht notes – I like them because they gladly provide few thousands in low denominations on request. I picked up glasses I ordered right after arrival, had banana pancake in soi where New Twilight is, then went to the room to spruce up and went to realize hopefully my dream and mission. But first stop  to get courage was at Hot Male downstairs, reader and anddy were there, tiny Lao was happy to see me again, always nice , enjoyable and not expensive time there.

After  9 , with pulse probably beating at 80 / my normal is 50-54 /  I marched to Jupter.

Not many people inside which was surprising considering it’s Friday but it was still early, artic cold and music volume at idiotic level but for now those were none of my problems. Drink ordered and I start looking around where my HC is. Nowhere, soon boys parade started, nope.

But I noticed that S, whom I offed from NewTwilight on my 3^rd night moved to Jupiter now, during parade I slipped him 100 baht in exchange for smile. Offable material but not for price he wanted then and definitely not tonight for obvious reason.

 Very rarely I ask for mamasan’s help but there was no choice. Due to level of noise conversation , mouth to ear was like that  : “ is HC working today? “ , ‘ do you want boy?”, screaming ‘ is HC working today? “ , ‘’ which boy you want ?”, then he decided to ask another one to help   me . Answer was freezing ‘ not working today” but before I got heart attack or something soothing “ I can call him” came. 100 baht changed hands, in few minutes he came that HC will be here in 20 minutes so my pulse went down to normal I guess and I even feel that noise and cold is somewhat more bearable.

Finally he got there roughly at start of show , recognized me in the instant , after all we talked last weekend and quite possibly mamasan described that  “KFC looking idiot is asking for you “ or something. I asked if he wants to stay for the show, yes,  so we stay,  in meantime I secured long time ( finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) , asked for expected compensation ( top of the line but not more that I was willing to fork out, I lost my head over him but some brain was preserved in the neck I guess and I had my limit ) so all looked good but he was sitting bit stiff as to avoid any casual body contact , arms crossed at times. Did not object my hand on his knee but  he did not bother with any touches , not that I expected much but I still be happy with even pat on the back.

After show it got better because we left, no problem walking, not hungry , we just bought some drinks at 7/11, he is talkative and English is good so my spirit went up. In the room no problem whatsoever , shower together OK,  body still lean and muscular,  all the same when I got struck seeing him  first time exercising with Art in front of BBB. So he took good care of himself during covid. Protested when  I told him he is so handsome, “I’m not handsome “ but when I told him ‘ for me you are “ , which in fact it is what I think,  he was happy. So thing were going very well  but they stopped when we moved to long time part.

“ Don’t do this’,  ‘ I don’t like this “, “ I’m tired and want to sleep “ etc.

 So I felt like cold water bucket was emptied over me as my romantic night  dreamed about for 3 or 4 years  turned to turf war over pillow and duvet.

 I was devastated  but not entirely surprised and thus not upset, only disappointed that dream of my own creation shattered , I  just gave up on being close . To his credit  in the morning he was not in rush at all, to a point that we missed breakfast in hotel   and converted himself to be more accessible.

So day 12 which I hoped will be day of days this trip  finished with me hanging my head low.

And is not HC fault, it’s mine as I hoped for much more based on my dreams.  

Now, few weeks since , I clearly see I was overreacting  , actually one of our members who knows HC brought me to my senses soon after saying rightly ‘finally you got him long time ! “

 But that morning, day after,  I felt dramatically disappointed.

I presented this story to readers to act as warning – we should not  build any hopes  beyond what we can reasonably expect in standard, after all commercial,  relationships.

 Result of this drama of my own creation is that yes , I will be still looking for HC whenever I’ll be in BKK, I will off him LT if he will be willing and I’d even consider him as trip companion.

 What I will not do is ask mamasan to call him and in fact any boy over, no,  I must see him eye to eye  like all other guys in bars. If there’s smile, it’s a deal, smile absent , next please. Day 12 is over.   

 

[reader]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

What I will not do is ask mamasan to call him and in fact any boy over, no,  I must see him eye to eye  like all other guys in bars. If there’s smile, it’s a deal, smile absent , next please. Day 12 is over.   

+1

The time, effort and money spent on this experience was good investment because it will, going forward, save you the same many times over.

I’ve learned never to push the envelope. If I don’t see interest on the face of potential off from first eye contact, I just narrow my list. That’s why I believe in-person venues will always beat the apps.

I still maintain overall that I’ve had the highest ratio of good times to so-so experiences in massage shops than in the bars. For whatever reason, the conditions in the shops seem to work to my advantage more often than not.

Maybe it’s the fact that you’re both alone in room and good chance that both of you are naked. That’s always a good start to me.

And it’s a reasonable outlay. You’re committed to paying one fixed cost and one variable (tip) cost. No drinks to buy and no off fee. 
 

But that’s me. It may not work as as well for others.

 

 

[somas]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

Day 12

Soon after they left  I realized that today is supposed to be a DAY for me as I hoped I will be able , after multi year waiting,  to off Handsome Cambodian  ( HC )from Jupiter, dream of mine for a good while. So by my own choice I switched  today to  “ wait for the evening “ mode.

Going for breakfast I notice Suwit waiting  already in front of  the shop , still closed that early , so grabbed him and we went for breakfast at BayView, it was actually nice , breezy morning.

As he knew , today I’m returning to Bangkok,  we kissed good bye  , literally in middle of the soi as neither of us is that shy. Then I went to the room to pack and at noon on the dot I left for Jomtien bus station to catch my 1 pm bus for which I bought ticket yesterday. I took motorsai for 50 baht.

Bus was full. Heavy traffic and it took 2 hours to get to Swampy so in the hotel I was close to 4 p.m.

You know what was on my mind all that time.

My hotel now for next 3 nights will be Furama Exclusive Sathorn, in sub soi close to both soi 3 where Baan Silom is and to Chong Nonsi station. After Raya,  it's becoming my most favorite hotel in Silom area , big rooms with balconies and breakfast included, no problems with visitors, there are always    some taxis, motorsais and tuktuks waiting outside and there’s cheap  local restaurant across the soi.  Breakfast is buffet type, not very sophisticated but varied and adequate enough with few Asian dishes so our guys may have choice they prefer.

As weekend was looming I went to XOne to exchange money, stocked there with 100 baht notes – I like them because they gladly provide few thousands in low denominations on request. I picked up glasses I ordered right after arrival, had banana pancake in soi where New Twilight is, then went to the room to spruce up and went to realize hopefully my dream and mission. But first stop  to get courage was at Hot Male downstairs, reader and anddy were there, tiny Lao was happy to see me again, always nice , enjoyable and not expensive time there.

After  9 , with pulse probably beating at 80 / my normal is 50-54 /  I marched to Jupter.

Not many people inside which was surprising considering it’s Friday but it was still early, artic cold and music volume at idiotic level but for now those were none of my problems. Drink ordered and I start looking around where my HC is. Nowhere, soon boys parade started, nope.

But I noticed that S, whom I offed from NewTwilight on my 3^rd night moved to Jupiter now, during parade I slipped him 100 baht in exchange for smile. Offable material but not for price he wanted then and definitely not tonight for obvious reason.

 Very rarely I ask for mamasan’s help but there was no choice. Due to level of noise conversation , mouth to ear was like that  : “ is HC working today? “ , ‘ do you want boy?”, screaming ‘ is HC working today? “ , ‘’ which boy you want ?”, then he decided to ask another one to help   me . Answer was freezing ‘ not working today” but before I got heart attack or something soothing “ I can call him” came. 100 baht changed hands, in few minutes he came that HC will be here in 20 minutes so my pulse went down to normal I guess and I even feel that noise and cold is somewhat more bearable.

Finally he got there roughly at start of show , recognized me in the instant , after all we talked last weekend and quite possibly mamasan described that  “KFC looking idiot is asking for you “ or something. I asked if he wants to stay for the show, yes,  so we stay,  in meantime I secured long time ( finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) , asked for expected compensation ( top of the line but not more that I was willing to fork out, I lost my head over him but some brain was preserved in the neck I guess and I had my limit ) so all looked good but he was sitting bit stiff as to avoid any casual body contact , arms crossed at times. Did not object my hand on his knee but  he did not bother with any touches , not that I expected much but I still be happy with even pat on the back.

After show it got better because we left, no problem walking, not hungry , we just bought some drinks at 7/11, he is talkative and English is good so my spirit went up. In the room no problem whatsoever , shower together OK,  body still lean and muscular,  all the same when I got struck seeing him  first time exercising with Art in front of BBB. So he took good care of himself during covid. Protested when  I told him he is so handsome, “I’m not handsome “ but when I told him ‘ for me you are “ , which in fact it is what I think,  he was happy. So thing were going very well  but they stopped when we moved to long time part.

“ Don’t do this’,  ‘ I don’t like this “, “ I’m tired and want to sleep “ etc.

 So I felt like cold water bucket was emptied over me as my romantic night  dreamed about for 3 or 4 years  turned to turf war over pillow and duvet.

 I was devastated  but not entirely surprised and thus not upset, only disappointed that dream of my own creation shattered , I  just gave up on being close . To his credit  in the morning he was not in rush at all, to a point that we missed breakfast in hotel   and converted himself to be more accessible.

So day 12 which I hoped will be day of days this trip  finished with me hanging my head low.

And is not HC fault, it’s mine as I hoped for much more based on my dreams.  

Now, few weeks since , I clearly see I was overreacting  , actually one of our members who knows HC brought me to my senses soon after saying rightly ‘finally you got him long time ! “

 But that morning, day after,  I felt dramatically disappointed.

I presented this story to readers to act as warning – we should not  build any hopes  beyond what we can reasonably expect in standard, after all commercial,  relationships.

 Result of this drama of my own creation is that yes , I will be still looking for HC whenever I’ll be in BKK, I will off him LT if he will be willing and I’d even consider him as trip companion.

 What I will not do is ask mamasan to call him and in fact any boy over, no,  I must see him eye to eye  like all other guys in bars. If there’s smile, it’s a deal, smile absent , next please. Day 12 is over.   

 

Maybe he’s more of a morning sex person?😅

[Guest]

7 hours ago, vinapu said:

My hotel now for next 3 nights will be Furama Exclusive Sathorn, in sub soi close to both soi 3 where Baan Silom is and to Chong Nonsi station. After Raya,  it's becoming my most favorite hotel in Silom area , big rooms with balconies and breakfast included, no problems with visitors

I also quite liked this place.  My room didn't have a balcony, but was a good size and had a nice view.

One Grindr boy managed to go to the other Furama, despite me carefully warning him to go to the Furama Exclusive.

 

7 hours ago, vinapu said:

What I will not do is ask mamasan to call him and in fact any boy over, no,  I must see him eye to eye  like all other guys in bars. If there’s smile, it’s a deal, smile absent , next please. Day 12 is over.  

Like yourself and Reader, I also believe in checking for a eye contact and a smile in a gogo bar.    Or to put it another way, if the guy can't bear to look at the prospective customer whilst on stage, don't count on the situation improving when he's in your hotel, with some kind of tip already secured.

I also check if the boy sits in close contact with me, as is normal. Just a couple of times in 15 years, I've had one sit 30 cm away.  I don't see how that can be a good sign. 

Obviously, we can't make the same checks on phone apps, but with all the checks we can make on those, I find the results are usually good.

[Londoner]

It's the smile. It worked eighteen years ago and the guy who provided it is still enjoying the consequences. As I am. 

And just to confirm how correct z909 is, I remember his telling me soon after we met about the advice he gave to a newbie at his bar. In one word, smile. 

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, z909 said:

 

One Grindr boy managed to go to the other Furama, despite me carefully warning him to go to the Furama Exclusive.

 

It may happen to farangs too , both Furamas, Sathorn Exclusive and Silom are walking distance from each other and one of our forum friend was surprised why I take  circular way through soi 3  to Furama if it's straight way via Silom nor realizing I'm taking about other Furama.

By the way there are at least two more Furamas in Bangkok.

Both hotels mentioned,  while bit dated are benefitting precisely from that - room are vary spacious not claustrophobic broom closet sized in new places like Red Planet or Quarter Silom, 

[vinapu]

11 hours ago, reader said:

+1

The time, effort and money spent on this experience was good investment because it will, going forward, save you the same many times over.

 

you absolutely right.

I don't blame guy at all for what saw as disaster next morning but after member / Ok, it was spoon / straightened me out when I tried to cry on his remote shoulder I realized it was my fault through and through. Dreams are dreams and reality often paints in different colors. It's why i described debacle in more detail that  I use to , hoping my idiocy will teach others something.

HC did his part and if that was not of what I was hoping for , he can't be blamed for it as no promises were broken and as I mentioned  he was definitely not in rush to leave me in the morning if we missed breakfast , rare thing for me, rather early riser.

so in future when in Bangkok I will be looking for him and gladly repeat experience , not necessarily long time  though. Too bad we did not exchange Line as I sense he could be good travel companion being talkative and speaking conversational English not to mention  other attributes. After all HC stands for Handsome Cambodian  

 

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, z909 said:

I also check if the boy sits in close contact with me, as is normal. Just a couple of times in 15 years, I've had one sit 30 cm away.  I don't see how that can be a good sign. 

 

that's correct in enclosed space of bar.

Street walk may be different , I had two cases when guys asked to walk to the room separately and while I suspected disaster both cases were very pleasant

[vinapu]

 

Day 13

  As I mentioned, HC was not in rush so we missed  breakfast in the hotel, he decided to go to his room and I went for breakfast  to world famous. Straight from there went to Chatuchak Market by MRT. I did not have anything to buy, just wanted to visit it after  few  years. It was not as crowded like before and I had impression , much more orderly then previously.

Spent few hours wandering through stalls  and when I had enough sights and smells   I returned by combination new MRT line and BTS from Bang Wa station,  on my way catching sight of new Big Buddha on Thonburi side of river.

 Timing was perfect as as soon as I entered my room rain started and I mean RAIN. As usual with Bangkok rains it was heavy but after about hour and half it stopped as suddenly as it started. I had plan for this afternoon as yesterday  when passing soi 3 I noticed massage shop called Bua Champu, almost beside Baan Silom hotel and not only recalled that it was recommended to me by Christian PFC but also boy sitting in front of it looked somewhat familiar and I realized I saw his profile on Grindr.

So I had some expectancies but somehow I was late to start being active and he misread my intentions so all I got it was very good massage and only a little bit of feel. I guess I had my shy moment there , LOL.

Well massaged and hungry I went to soi 4 for my schnitzel at G’Bangkok then to Hot Male to have daily (well almost ) chat with guys there and soon after went to Tawan.

K, hero of my first night soon after went to his hometown to see his son, perhaps  oiled by my tips but did not forget me and every day or two was sending me messages on Line “how are you ? “ , I miss you “ and  similar liturgical stuff although considering that we hit it somewhat and I was generous with him I believe it was sincere. I miss him too anyways and when he Lined me that he is back I knew that he is second in line to be offed  right after HC.

It was more than week since my last time there so I was greeted somewhat  warmly  with handshakes and hugs    by quite a few of their stuff . Apart from guys I already knew I noticed new, for me ,  guy, very muscular and at the same time handsome, lets call him TT. So after ordering beer for myself , K and Dum when I noticed he is smiling at me I fell immediately in love and called him over for a drink as well.  M and Ten , both I had massages with also were circulating nearby but  I disciplined myself and they were forced to be content with 100 baht tips but no drink.  

I complemented TT handsomeness and was rewarded with kiss  , not to mention option of wrapping my arm around his massive shoulder as he was sitting beside me . Then show started , again one of performers called me KFC man, few tips were distributed and time came to take K home because bar was about to close and he wanted to eat something. Bill came to 2100 for off fee and 4 drinks but fun of that evening was priceless with view for even more obviously. I stole one more kiss from TT in exchange for 100 baht, LOL.

For dinner he suggested well known restaurant across the mouth of former soi Twilight which I  approved as I like food here and two waitresses , one of them remembered what I used to order 3 years ago as I mentioned before.

I was in for more surprises there. First both of them asked  if I’d consider buying them glass of red wine, sure. It was good idea not only to improve mood but  soon after it was revealed that one with good memory is no less than first cousin of my K. No wonder he suggested that restaurant. Then she said we are alike because I like boys and she likes boys so next time I should bring one more for her.  Wine started to work, no doubt.

Then over dinner they started to speak very highly about K. It turned out that mother of his son didn’t  want a child and run away leaving baby with him . So he soldiers on as single father  working hard and sending  money to his parents who as rising his son in rural Surin while he works in BKK.

He did not make much of it saying simply that it’s his son after all so it’s his duty to support him , show me his picture and baby is like father look alike minus muscles of course but similarity was obvious.

 So tonight after fun time in Tawan I got even more of it in Beer Garden or whatever name of place is and I must say I started to look at K with even more respect.

He seemed to be happy that somebody else told his story and in the room when we finally arrived he seemed much more clingy and talkative than before. So my day 13 ended in the morning with uplifting mood for both of us and when he asked if I off him again I told him “more than once” which earned me shy, manly kiss

[jason1975]

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

For dinner he suggested well known restaurant across the mouth of former soi Twilight which I  approved as I like food here and two waitresses , one of them remembered what I used to order 3 years ago as I mentioned before.

I was in for more surprises there. First both of them asked  if I’d consider buying them glass of red wine, sure. It was good idea not only to improve mood but  soon after it was revealed that one with good memory is no less than first cousin of my K. No wonder he suggested that restaurant. Then she said we are alike because I like boys and she likes boys so next time I should bring one more for her.  Wine started to work, no doubt.

Then over dinner they started to speak very highly about K. It turned out that mother of his son didn’t  want a child and run away leaving baby with him . So he soldiers on as single father  working hard and sending  money to his parents who as rising his son in rural Surin while he works in BKK.

He did not make much of it saying simply that it’s his son after all so it’s his duty to support him , show me his picture and baby is like father look alike minus muscles of course but similarity was obvious.

 So tonight after fun time in Tawan I got even more of it in Beer Garden or whatever name of place is and I must say I started to look at K with even more respect.

He seemed to be happy that somebody else told his story and in the room when we finally arrived he seemed much more clingy and talkative than before. So my day 13 ended in the morning with uplifting mood for both of us and when he asked if I off him again I told him “more than once” which earned me shy, manly kiss

The restaurant is Happy Beer Garden. Had lots of happy memories there when I stayed at Raya and Soi Twilight was around.

How old is K's son? Can't be a baby right? When I went to Tawan for @flashbarryallen Jockstrap Night, K spoke to my guy, T and said in Thai, "You look like my son!" T was so surprised and later in the night, he told me that. Of course, K could have been very drunk. Instead of drinking whisky in cup with mixers, he drank the whisky in shot glasses! I would not be surprised that he drank at least 10 shot glasses as he toasted that night!

[flashbarryallen]

@vinapuAhhhh the first meeting of TT. That man really knows how to sell the fantasy. I'll never forget the enchantment and adoration I felt in those first moments and hopefully all those to come in the near future. 

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18 hours ago, vinapu said:

that's correct in enclosed space of bar.

Street walk may be different , I had two cases when guys asked to walk to the room separately and while I suspected disaster both cases were very pleasant

I agree entirely.     The boy might not want everyone to know how he earns a living.

There was also one case where I was embarrassed walking back from a bar.   I'd picked up a lad who was in his late 20s, showing some signs of ageing, but very small.   Before we left the gogo bar, he put on a hooded top with ears on it like a bear.  The kind of thing that makes him look about 20 years younger than he really was, from most angles and any distance.

I suspect the covid era is quite good for those who don't want to be spotted, as a face mask is a good disguise.

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15 hours ago, z909 said:

....The boy might not want everyone to know how he earns a living.

There was also one case where I was embarrassed walking back from a bar.   I'd picked up a lad who was in his late 20s, showing some signs of ageing, but very small.   Before we left the gogo bar, he put on a hooded top with ears on it like a bear.  The kind of thing that makes him look about 20 years younger than he really was, from most angles and any distance.

I suspect the covid era is quite good for those who don't want to be spotted, as a face mask is a good disguise.

yes, one guy who wanted to walk on opposite side of the street was stopped by acquaintances at least 4-5 times on our way from Tawan to Raya so obviously he was well known in the area. He was DJ in one of bars in soi Twilight for few years, at least it's what he told me .

Second guy who wanted to walk separately  did it to save his reputation among customer girls, he did not want to be seen walking to hotel with guy. I don't remember it was him or mamasan who explained it to me but it was fine, I went to Classrooms by the Cupidol , he went by ABomb and we met at the door. 

I'm not embarrassed to walk with guys but understand some may be. Some boys are dressed very telling way. I imagine passerby's are thinkin ' that old guy forgot his cane and asked that man to escort him to the room in case he can't walk' or something to this tune . Or I imagined in the past until I heard comment in a language I understand very well " look at this grey guy how handsome lad he got, I wonder who will fuck whom " to which I answered immediately in the same language " thank you , he is my chauffer .

As for masks,  again you are right, I just published story of guy I spotted crosssing street at Lumpini who looked very handsome  but when he came to my room day ort two after  and took mask off , it turned to be very off the mill .

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16 hours ago, jason1975 said:

The restaurant is Happy Beer Garden. Had lots of happy memories there when I stayed at Raya and Soi Twilight was around.

How old is K's son? Can't be a baby right? When I went to Tawan for @flashbarryallen Jockstrap Night, K spoke to my guy, T and said in Thai, "You look like my son!" T was so surprised and later in the night, he told me that. Of course, K could have been very drunk. Instead of drinking whisky in cup with mixers, he drank the whisky in shot glasses! I would not be surprised that he drank at least 10 shot glasses as he toasted that night!

I always forget the name even if I spent thousands there over years dining with every second guy I ever offed. And some of guys don't feel any need to restrain themselves when ordering on my tab . Now I watch more carefully and I'm not shy to say no, too much or too expensive.

K's son is 3 or 4 if that much and yes , he is a baby. Obviously K was very drunk , perhaps too drunk. What you guys did to my boy? He was sober all the time with me, rarely even drinking beer and one can the most.

Drinking whisky or in fact all spirits in shot glasses is what I do so you made him even more endeared to me . Drinking whisky in cup with mixers just dilutes alcohol and experience. Remember Vinapu cocktail 60% of gin and 40% of gin.

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15 hours ago, flashbarryallen said:

@vinapuAhhhh the first meeting of TT. That man really knows how to sell the fantasy. I'll never forget the enchantment and adoration I felt in those first moments and hopefully all those to come in the near future. 

I can't agree more, word for word. How this fantasy turned out , wait few days for day 19 of my travel story

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Day 14

Today we waked up in time to consume breakfast in hotel. I could see that K is very careful with what he eats  . He knows that his body is his earning asset and not only takes very good care about himself  but also mentioned few of his bar friends who are slacking  in body maintenance and it unfortunately shows. Breakfast in Furama Sathorn is not opulent but adequate with choice of farang and Asian dishes and I consider it to be good value.

I went for a stroll to Lumpini and around noon returned to the room as I was expecting repeat visit from Besty, guy who found me on Grindr and offered massage. We met him already in day 6 . Like before he arrived on the dot. Today’ massage was as good as week ago and afters even better , I suspect that he kind of likes me, definitely was not in rush to go. Unfortunately when I investigated long time option he politely declined ‘ short time is better”.

Few days ago Christian PFC alerted me about some ghost festival in Makasan’s railway yards so I , railway man by heart for entire life , couldn’t let it pass by even if my interest in ghosts is non existing.  I went there by BTS and then airport link to Ratchaprop station and then walked. What surprised me was that it was well attended  by ghost lovers and railway buffs, free admission , temperature and proof of vaccination check at the gate.

With great interest I surveyed old steam engines and railway carriages, some well restored , others just abandoned to their fate. One of those I used as a place to eat lunch I purchased on the site and as often on those kind of festivals, public seem to be mostly interested in eating something judging but brisk trade food stalls made.

Then made quite a walk along ARL line through part of Bangkok rarely  visited even if it’s just steps  from  airport line . There it looked as third world’ backwater city even with all those skyscrapers in the background.  Dilapidated houses, muddy alleys, dark shops selling only basics but also certain charm of being authentic. Around Makasan station  civilization appeared again and all that stroll with injection of oxygen into brain from walking in the open gave me an idea that since I’m close to Sukhumvit area, why not to visit Jey Spa in soi 43.

It was  fast hop on MRT plus BTS, 10 minutes stroll and I was in front of familiar townhouse where spa is located. As I mentioned in my December report there’s no sign but shoes in front of entrance are betraying the place. I was hoping that Ken2 ( numbered because they have another Ken there as well as he explained), guy I had in December will be there. Mamasan inside explained that if I did not make reservation they have only  3 guys on duty but one of them turned to be familiar face. So Ken 2 it is. He did not recall me, even if I told him we met 5 months ago and that I remember he has scar from appendix removal surgery. Massage fee 800, his minimum tip for 1.5 session 1800, one can see that spa is located in somewhat upscale area of the city , full of gated villas and condos.

But massage and after service were excellent, guy very well but not overwhelmingly built and good conversationalist as a bonus so I gave him 2000 and left very happy.

Today I had plan to go to Moonlight, if only because one of their floor guys, A, very muscular guy whom I offed in the past few times somehow learned I’m in  Bangkok and sent me Line message he is missing me . No doubt, no doubt. So I went. First to see me was Bee, my first off in December, right after I was released from hotel prison waiting for test results. Soon on the stage I noticed not one but two guys smiling at me , A was one but also Myanmarese , very funny and talkative guy I offed  from Hot Male in December for private show with T.

Since guys are rotating by two , soon A left the stage and approached me so I invited him for  a drink. He did not waste much time and asked me right away if he can go with me today, option which was on the table in my mind but he suggested tip which was more than I could pay tonight being bit depleted of cash . This did not derail him and he said I can pay him in dollars but I got brighter idea and told him I will return tomorrow to pick him up. For tonight I decided who will be listening to my snoring for more agreeable compensation.

So when A returned to the stage I lined infallible V if he is available, of course he was asking for few minutes as he just came back from work ( he has full time shift job in some supermarket or mall ). I finished my drink , smiled at A and Bee who happen to be on the stage and left to meet V in front of 7/11 in soi 3. What surprised me was that he was coming from direction of my hotel like he knew.

I suspected some intelligence work but explanation was simpler- it turned out he lives in the parallel soi.

As always great time including polite question if he can rape me but answer was negative. Whenever I off him I always have feeling that he is grateful for an extra income and tries to be good boy as to secure next time. So day 14 finished in familiar and assuring embraces