Back in Bangkok after 2 years

[jason1975]

2 hours ago, Min said:

I started to have some ideas about what you are into. No wonder you are all about LTs. Finding someone on a short trip, who connects on that level, would need some luck though.

Yes, my LT doesn't just mean Long-Time. I hope guys i meet for LT can develop into LTR: Long term relationships

[Guest]

A general Thailand question - I was under impression that high season/dry season was December through April and even then, extremely hot & humid.  The low season, remainder of the year with more heat, lots of rain & extreme humidity. That information all came from just general Thailand google searches for first time visitors.  

Is Thailand really more a year round destination and timing doesn’t really matter ?  And, does Bangkok weather differ from the beaches where beaches might be much better in off season, but maybe not BKK ?  The posts here make it look like weather may not be a deciding factor of when to visit and that opens up many more possibilities.

appreciate the thoughts of the veterans   thank you 

[floridarob]

December has always been my favorite month, nice weather....not too crazy with tourists, good flights- kids still in school so hardly any families traveling.....

Other months, the humidity is so bad, just stepping outside you're soaked from sweat. 

I'm not a beach person, so can't help much there, except going to Pattaya, but not for the beach.

[vinapu]

8 hours ago, Min said:

I started to have some ideas about what you are into. No wonder you are all about LTs

don't do too much of extrapolation. I don't watch TV at all, never mind Netflix and still bring somebody LT night after night

[vinapu]

9 hours ago, jason1975 said:

 

....... then came back to hotel room to continue watching Stranger Things.

strange name for what we older generation use to call simply fuck

[vinapu]

52 minutes ago, floridarob said:

except going to Pattaya, but not for the beach.

I'm shocked

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, Slvkguy said:

A general Thailand question - I was under impression that high season/dry season was December through April and even then, extremely hot & humid.  The low season, remainder of the year with more heat, lots of rain & extreme humidity. That information all came from just general Thailand google searches for first time visitors.  

Is Thailand really more a year round destination and timing doesn’t really matter ?  And, does Bangkok weather differ from the beaches where beaches might be much better in off season, but maybe not BKK ?  The posts here make it look like weather may not be a deciding factor of when to visit and that opens up many more possibilities.

appreciate the thoughts of the veterans   thank you 

any time is good to go, as floridarob mentioned above December and also January have mildest weather and almost no rain any month seems to be good to go for one reason or other. Even in  months of heaviest rain like Sept and Oct is nor raining cats and dogs for days but there are substantial but relatively short downpurs , usually in the afternoon.

Yes it's sticky from Feb to Nov but that is what tropics are for - to hydrate dry farang skin.

For draining your wallet any of 12 months is equally suitable

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Slvkguy said:

A general Thailand question - I was under impression that high season/dry season was December through April and even then, extremely hot & humid. 

December~Feb are certainly not hot and humid.      28~32C and dry is more like it, which is as near perfect as you can get.

In December and January, you may even get a few days of cool weather, where in the morning, it's borderline for almost putting a second layer of clothing on.  The locals and even some of the expats do have extra layers on at such times.

 

[gerefan]

I have been many times in June and July. Little bit of rain but nothing to worry about and doesn’t disrupt anything.

Dont forget Jomtien Complex (the new centre of gay life in Pattaya) now has a tin roof over it...so no problems in the proper rainy season (September). 

[jason1975]

Day 5. I made arrangement to meet fellow forum member at Soi 4 and we would go to Freshboys tonight. At 8.30pm I walked into Soi 4 looking for Circus. I had no idea that Telephone had changed its name to Circus. I saw forum member and as I walked to him, a waiter called out to me loudly and enthusiastically. "Hello! Remember me?"

I turned around and saw that it was P, someone I have known since the days of Soi Twilight. He worked at old Freshboys at Soi Twilight and when Freshboys and X-Boys combined to form Lucky Boys at Patpong, he went over. He used to take part in shower and big cock shows.

I was so delighted to see him again and hugged him. P is now a waiter at Circus. He has gained weight and his abs are gone due to drinking too much but he is still very handsome. We chatted awhile. I found out that his off day is Wednesday (which is same as my dancer guy and New Twilight twink waiter guy). Why are their off days on the same day! Dilemma for next Wednesday - who to meet. But for now, I was happy to know that P has a stable job currently. In fact, as I scanned the other waiters at Circus, I found most of them very handsome! Could they be former bar boys before Covid?

[jason1975]

I had a great time chatting and interacting with fellow forum member. We shared experiences and information. "You should really go to Pattaya," he said since I like twinks. Actually, I am not sure myself. While I like twinks, I have also offed musclemen and average guys in the past. I told fellow forum member that I will go to Pattaya one day. Tonight, we planned to go to Freshboys and then Moonlight. After paying for the bill, I looked for P. I said goodbye to him and slipped him a 1000-baht note.

[jason1975]

Before Covid, Freshboys was in my top 3 bars (the others being Lucky Boys and Screwboys). I am happy to report that Freshboys remains the same as before. Lots of boys (about 15 to 16) of all types. All nationalities available. However, all in jeans. No parading in underwear. So have to rely on looking at their charming faces and fit bare bodies. No. 1 and No. 8 stood out for me for being extremely handsome. I also looked at the waiters and found them very handsome as well!

Show started at 10.15pm which is earlier than expected. I believe once there's around 10 customers, they will start show. Fellow forum member and I were given front seats. First act was ladyboy lip synching. Only one ladyboy in the bar and she does 3 perfomances. "She's the in-house ladyboy," said fellow forum member which made me laugh. Such a pity that there's no trained dancers to accompany her on stage. There's coyote dancing by 5 of the floor boys but some of them are just not natural dancers. Other acts in the show included a solo jerk off, a SM routine between in-house ladyboy as a domimatrix and a guy in SM gear, big cock show with cock hitting metal poles (4 guys) and fucking show by 2 guys. I tipped most of the performers. Show ended at 11.30pm. Floor guys came back on stage. I had lost track of the time. "Are we still going to Moonlight?" I asked fellow forum member. Before covid, bars had two shows at 10plus and midnight but now bars close at midnight. Pointless to go to Moonlight with only half an hour left. So decision made to remain at Freshboys. Now to decide whether to off a guy.

[jason1975]

Readers of my reports will probably have formed the impression of me as a hopless romantic seeking intimicy and friendship. It's generally true because back in Singapore, I am discrete and am not in the gay scene. So when I am in Bangkok, I seek guys to talk to and hang out with. I have come to know several guys well over the past 5 years - P and T plus a Vietnam guy who went back to Ha Tinh and whom I have been giving financial support every month. I call him "kon nuoi" and he calls me "cha nuoi" - which means godson and godpa respectively.

But sometimes lust takes over and this is what happened when I called a guy down from the stage at Freshboys. Mamasan came immediately to me with a worried look. "Lao boy. No speak English. Top."

"It's ok," I replied. I just wanted to be fucked wildly tonight.

 

[jason1975]

I said goodbye to fellow forum member who went off for supper while I took Laos boy back to hotel. 22 years old. Straight. New. Only been in Bangkok for one month. I had to use Google Translate to communicate with him. Fortunately, I had bought a bottle of Jack Daniel from Duty Free shop at airport. Laos boy enjoys the drink and ice was broken. Sex was wonderful even though he didn't kiss. And so ended day 5.

[Olddaddy]

Great reports Jason.

If you don't mind me asking ,what is the average rate in Bangkok for short time, what were the boys happy with?

 

[jason1975]

ST at Freshboys is 2000 baht. New Twilight was asking for 3000 baht. I haven't visited the rest of the bars yet.

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, jason1975 said:

I found out that his off day is Wednesday (which is same as my dancer guy and New Twilight twink waiter guy). Why are their off days on the same day! Dilemma for next Wednesday - who to meet

all three , one by one , at 12 , next at 4 and next at 7 so you still can hit the bars, catch the birds while you can

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, jason1975 said:

 New Twilight was asking for 3000 baht. I haven't visited the rest of the bars yet.

I think hat's just phishing to see if we catch.  I fell into it too (report soon) but now , knowing what I know  I'd offer regular 2000 and see what happens . Of course nothing stops us from being more generous but that part should be expressed after the deed when we know  what we bought into.

Reading your reports I clearly see how stupid I was not extending my stay  by the week 😭 

[Guest]

32 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I think hat's just phishing to see if we catch.  I fell into it too (report soon) but now , knowing what I know  I'd offer regular 2000 and see what happens . Of course nothing stops us from being more generous but that part should be expressed after the deed when we know  what we bought into.

Reading your reports I clearly see how stupid I was not extending my stay  by the week 😭 

My impression is that mamasans tend to inflate figures somewhat.    So what the mamasan says should never be taken as a guide to prices.

As for trip duration, for those of us without any need to rush back to a job, going for a slightly longer trip is usually a good decision.   

[reader]

53 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I think hat's just phishing to see if we catch. 

How did the fish get caught.

He opened his mouth. 🙂

[Min]

12 hours ago, jason1975 said:

I had a great time chatting and interacting with fellow forum member. We shared experiences and information. 

You can say my name lah. Just leave out the parts we talked about Vinapu behind his back

[macaroni21]

On 6/9/2022 at 10:11 PM, Slvkguy said:

A general Thailand question - I was under impression that high season/dry season was December through April and even then, extremely hot & humid.  The low season, remainder of the year with more heat, lots of rain & extreme humidity. That information all came from just general Thailand google searches for first time visitors.  

Is Thailand really more a year round destination and timing doesn’t really matter ?  And, does Bangkok weather differ from the beaches where beaches might be much better in off season, but maybe not BKK ?  The posts here make it look like weather may not be a deciding factor of when to visit and that opens up many more possibilities.

appreciate the thoughts of the veterans   thank you 

Thailand has three seasons.

There is the "cool" season between December and February where the midday temperature is about 31 or 32 degrees and little rain.

Then there's the hot dry season from March to May with daily maximums reaching 35 to 37 degrees. Humidity rises month by month till it gets quite uncomfortable in May. Not much rain.

The monsoon arrives in June. This is warm rain coming down in buckets for about 1 or 2 hours a day, about 4 or 5 days each week. Often with thunder and lightning. Quite different from the gentler but more persistent rain seen in Europe. Between rainstorms, it tends to be hot ( max 33 or 34 degrees) and humid, but after it has rained, the rest of the day is cooler. Rainy days reach a peak in September. That month and October is also when Bangkok is most likely to flood. The amount of monsoon water coming down the Chao Praya river is huge.

My observation is that the cool season tourism peak is largely a farang (westerner) phenomenon. Partly it's because, as others have said, the weather is the best of the three seasons, but I think an equally important driver is the fact that Europeans and Canadians are keen to escape their winters.

Pre-covid, the mass migration of Russians each winter to the beaches of Thailand was impossible to miss.

Asian tourists - and they are the majority of visitors that Thailand gets - are more used to higher humidity and tropical weather. I don't think there is much of a peak for them, with the possible exception of a trough in March and April when the daily maximums are too hot even for them. Most Asian countries also have monsoonal weather patterns, and rain is hardly a deterrent to them. They are used to it and know how to cope. Summers in Taiwan and Japan are not different from Thailand's monsoon season.

Then there are the farang visitors who through experience have adapted to Thailand's temperatures and moisture levels, and they are quite happy to come in any season.

Adaptation includes knowing what to  wear for warm humid days: the lightest possible cotton t-shirts, shorts and sandals. Have a broad-brimmed hat if you want to avoid sunburn on the bald patch. Learn from the Asians and always walk in the shade, never in the sun if at all you can avoid it. In Europe the sun is your friend; in the tropics, the shade is your friend. Scoot into air-conditioned malls regularly to cool off and hydrate frequently.

I don't think there is all that much difference between the conditions in Bangkok and the close-by beach towns. The main difference is that the beaches get a steady sea breeze which even in the hottest months, is very pleasant. But if one is not a beach aficionado and spend little time on the beach, then the built-up parts of the beach towns feel pretty similar to built-up Bangkok.

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, Min said:

You can say my name lah. Just leave out the parts we talked about Vinapu behind his back

good or bad , most important you talked about me, thank you !😁

[jason1975]

7 hours ago, Min said:

You can say my name lah. Just leave out the parts we talked about Vinapu behind his back

Ok, thanks for giving the green light. I didn't know whether you are ok with me mentioning you.

Forum readers, please let me tell you that @Min is great fun to hang around. He is very observant for example when were at Freshboys, he noticed how 2 guys are brothers! He also remembers which boys take part in the show. "Last week, this boy danced in coyote show," he pointed out to me.

How I wish @Min would start writing his own trip reports. When I met him, it was his last night in Thailand. He would be travelling in the region and would be back in Thailand in 2 weeks. Do consider sharing your observations and insights via a trip report!

[macaroni21]

Here's a graph from Thaiwebsites.com.  The numbers (for quarterly arrivals of tourists) are in millions. The Dec - Feb peak is not pronounced. It's only about 20 percent more visitors than the lowest quarter.