Back in Bangkok after 2 years

[Olddaddy]

6 hours ago, jason1975 said:

At 9.30pm i headed off to New Twilight. Its bright LED display made it stand out in the dark soi. Impressive place. Big stage flanked on 3 sides by seats. Large and wide LED wall made the show later really spectacular. Better than Jupiter and Moonlight. Unfortunately guys were pretty average. No models. But according to mamasan, they are asking for 3000 ST and 4000 LT. Mamasan said can negotiate individually with guys to go down to 2500 ST and 3500 LT. But bar fine is only 300 baht!

6 boys on rotation on stage. Jeans but shirtless. There was a group of free spending Chinese customers. They already had 4 boys seated with them and several bottles opened. I took a seat at the corner and mamasan showed me the drinks menu. I liked the place's vibes and 2 of the 6 boys already appealed to me. I had a feeling i would be spending quite some time here so I decided to get a bottle of Jim Bean. 3500 baht with free mixers. And there was complimentary platter of potato chips and nuts. The previous night, i had spent 1600 baht on 2 beers and 2 drinks for guy at Tawan.

2500 short time?...wow..these are Western prices !

[gerefan]

14 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

2500 short time?...wow..these are Western prices !

So are many other things nowadays.

Take for example a small Singha Beer, in a beer bar. Usually 100 baht in Pattaya. That’s approx £4.40 per pint. Same as UK prices. Probably more in BKK.

Bangkok Gogo bar drink prices are way in excess of western bar prices! 

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Olddaddy said:

2500 short time?...wow..these are Western prices !

I believe 2500 is an inflated Bangkok gogo bar price, quoted by a mamasan. 

Vinapu's suggestion of 2000 short time is nearer the mark for BKK gogos.

For BKK phone app dates, 1500 short time.

For Pattaya phone app dates, 2~300 below that.

If careful, you could probably obtain lower prices on the apps, but I'm not sure how well that would work out.

Also, some people are more generous than other in the bars.

 

48 minutes ago, gerefan said:

So are many other things nowadays.

Take for example a small Singha Beer, in a beer bar. Usually 100 baht in Pattaya. That’s approx £4.40 per pint. Same as UK prices. Probably more in BKK.

Bangkok Gogo bar drink prices are way in excess of western bar prices!

In the case of Bangkok gogo bars, I consider it to be 40 baht for the drink and the remaining 300+ is for the scantily clad entertainment.    OK, only as long as they have scantily clad entertainment.  

On a like for like basis, I'm not quite sure what the drink prices in a western gogo bar would be ?   

I do recall walking into one  in Berlin about 15 years ago, where a drink cost just over 10 Euros.  Slightly less than current Bangkok prices, but they only had 2 boys in the bar.  

 

As for Jomtien, 100 baht/43.5 x 568/330  works out at about £3.95 per pint, but exchange rates do move around.   I think we're paying something for the presence of all the cute bar staff, but it's certainly near western prices.   

The bars selling beer for 80 baht in Jomtien are better value & in Sunee, Winner Boys is even better, offering a gogo experience and cheap drinks. .   

 

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, gerefan said:

So are many other things nowadays.

Take for example a small Singha Beer, in a beer bar. Usually 100 baht in Pattaya. That’s approx £4.40 per pint. Same as UK prices. Probably more in BKK.

Bangkok Gogo bar drink prices are way in excess of western bar prices! 

 

I wonder where in the West we had  7 gogo bars within 5 minutes walk  staffed with dozen or two guys willing to go to our room for 2 hrs session for 70 USD ?

[paulsf]

I live in a city with 3 strip clubs.  It would take 10,000 baht to take someone home from here.    If I could get them for 2500 I’d spend less time in Bangkok.   

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

I wonder where in the West we had  7 gogo bars within 5 minutes walk  staffed with dozen or two guys willing to go to our room for 2 hrs session for 70 USD ?

Brasil and Mexico are pretty good, both places on average 30usd for hookups, although some "model" types do ask about 75usd...... And don't recall too many mom needs surgery or cow died stories from these places, not saying that they don't have personal problems, just it doesn't become part of the conversation considering what we are transacting 😉

I remember meeting Namazu in Bangkok, telling him about South America......didn't realize what a strong liking he would take to it, lol

[Min]

6 hours ago, jason1975 said:

He was a kisser! I felt so embarrassed that i had cigarette breath. Must make a note to get mouth rinse for tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow i am seeing waiter guy again. The only downer is no LT because he has 2 jobs. But ST with him is good enough for me.

Le Meridien does give you a small bottle of mouth rinse per day. You can find it in the bathroom, right below the sink.

So the waiter also asked for the same tip as the floor boys?

[jason1975]

3 hours ago, Min said:

Le Meridien does give you a small bottle of mouth rinse per day. You can find it in the bathroom, right below the sink.

So the waiter also asked for the same tip as the floor boys?

I just read your tip. You are right about the mouthwash from the hotel! But i had already bought my mouthwash from 7/11 (and kiss the heck out of waiter guy! 🥰🥰🥰)

[jason1975]

Day 3 was spent shopping and lazing by the pool. Saw a gay couple twice at hotel - a big sized farang and an Asian guy. Once in morning at hotel lobby taking taxi out and then in afternoon. They were lounging at cabana couches when I went to swim. Too shy to approach them and didn't want to interuppt them.

I also saw one of the Chinese customers from New Twilight last night walk into hotel lobby as i was going out. He had distinctive hair at the back tied up like a sumo wrestler. He was probably coming in to meet his friend who stays in the hotel.

I was on Grndr but no luck in getting anyone over for fun.

At 10pm i made my way to New Twilight. Only one middle-aged lady customer but she was a regular and only had one drink so no one bothered her. She was there just for the show and mamasan would go to her once in a while to chat with her.

Mamasan led me to my corner seat. I asked for my half bottle of Jim Bean. Waiters went to get it from bar counter and also brought mixers. Cost of mixers was 350 baht. Complimentary platter of snacks provided.

Now about last night, I found out an interesting tidbit. A customer who was there on the last night of his two week trip had brought the entire bar out for supper after closing at midnight. Mamasan showed me the photo of 20 of them (waiters, mamasan and boys). All happy smiling faces. In fact, after waiter guy ended his ST with me, he went off to join them. He had the same photo in his phone and happily pointed at himself in the photo. This customer was not one of the Chinese customers who ordered bottles last night. He was low key and discrete but what a generous treat he gave to the staff!

Tonight was a slow night. Slowly, customers came in. By the time the show started at 10.30pm, there were fewer than 10 customers, most were alone. There was a group of 3 Japanese or Korean customers but they were content with their single drinks. No bottle service in bar tonight. Only me finishing my bottle from last night. Customers were here for show only. No invites for guys on stage to sit with them. Show was essentially the same except for change in sequence for some performances. No. 28 whom i fancied yesterday wasn't in today. There were two new guys (one Camnodia and one Thai) on their first day today. Mamasan pointed them out to me but they weren't my type. Besides, i had already told waiter guy that I would be offing him. After show, i happily went off with waiter guy. While walking back to hotel, he said he would not be working tomorrow which piqued my interest about a possible LT. Unfortunately, he had early morning ride to Pattaya to meet his friends on his precious off day. They had arranged it weeks in advance. So looks like LT with him must be another time. ST tonight was even more passionate than last night. Kissing, sucking in 69 position and fucking. Was totally spent that i fell asleep after session.

[floridarob]

27 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Was totally spent that i fell asleep after session.

1/2 a bottle of Jim Bean probably helped too 😉

 

28 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

brought the entire bar out for supper after closing at midnight.

What's this consist of, moneywise and drinks and.....??
I've imagined something like that before but only think of people like TotallyOz doing it 😲

[Min]

5 hours ago, jason1975 said:

But i had already bought my mouthwash from 7/11 (and kiss the heck out of waiter guy! 🥰🥰🥰)

out of his what? hehe

4 hours ago, jason1975 said:

No. 28 whom i fancied yesterday wasn't in today. There were two new guys (one Camnodia and one Thai) on their first day today. 

So how many floor guys in total last night. 8? And did you see the Viet boy from Ha Tinh other members have been talking about? I kinda hope I would stumble upon 20 something guys the next time I visit the bar

[jason1975]

3 hours ago, Min said:

out of his what? hehe

So how many floor guys in total last night. 8? And did you see the Viet boy from Ha Tinh other members have been talking about? I kinda hope I would stumble upon 20 something guys the next time I visit the bar

Apparently there is no Vietnam guy. I asked about natiionalities of guys and he only said Thai, Cambodia and Laos.

[jason1975]

3 hours ago, Min said:

out of his what? hehe

Kiss his lips of koz!

[Min]

52 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Apparently there is no Vietnam guy. I asked about natiionalities of guys and he only said Thai, Cambodia and Laos.

He probably moved on to Jupiter already? @reader do you still stay in touch with the boy?

[jason1975]

4 hours ago, Min said:

out of his what? hehe

So how many floor guys in total last night. 8? And did you see the Viet boy from Ha Tinh other members have been talking about? I kinda hope I would stumble upon 20 something guys the next time I visit the bar

Last night was about 10 guys at most. If you are looking to see 20 guys, i think more likely on weekends. I can go with you. You are welcome to ask any guy for drinks or off but stay away from my waiter guy as long as i am present!

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, jason1975 said:

Last night was about 10 guys at most. If you are looking to see 20 guys, i think more likely on weekends. I can go with you. You are welcome to ask any guy for drinks or off but stay away from my waiter guy as long as i am present!

what is said waiter will start looking longingly at Min ?

Anyways , at least 3 Vietnamese guys when I was there on Saturday including one I was sitting with and a waiter who was actively soliciting me for tips.

[reader]

1 hour ago, Min said:

He probably moved on to Jupiter already? @reader do you still stay in touch with the boy?

Hope to have an answer to that question before week’s end.

[Min]

2 hours ago, jason1975 said:

Last night was about 10 guys at most. If you are looking to see 20 guys, i think more likely on weekends. I can go with you. You are welcome to ask any guy for drinks or off but stay away from my waiter guy as long as i am present!

You should do something to mark territory hehe  Are you gonna off him again and again?

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, Min said:

You should do something to mark territory hehe  Are you gonna off him again and again?

monodiet is not a bad thing if guy or bar is right.

I once had 2 weeks trip when all guys offed with one exception  were from the same Tawan bar

[azdr0710]

thanks for your reports @jason1975  great reading and great writing style....!

[innitalex]

Thanks also from me, great to read your experiences from rainy England. Motivated me to browse flights 😝

[Guest]

On 6/5/2022 at 7:02 PM, jason1975 said:

I arrived on a Sunday afternoon after being away for two years

Can I just say I love the Thailand trip reports - they are so different from the South American/Caribbean reports in so many ways.  First, you guys consistently post things that are useful for those considering a trip.  I’ve never been to Thailand and no real desire to go - until I read the trip reports . So, thank you for that.  There’s no drama I’ve seen (yet) and most appear to be experienced travelers where I would actually take the advice/recommendations.

Second - there seems to be a real camaraderie among the community w members in Thailand actually meeting up in person.  Always fun to connect in person in a foreign land with like minded-travelers.  You guys have the right spirit and it is very much appreciated.  Hope to visit next Spring and will continue to observe & learn through your posts.  Thanks again

[jason1975]

Day 4 was set aside to reacquaint with a dancer guy whom I got to know 2 years ago in 2019 and we clicked well. He was a dancer at Lucky Boys. He's gay and has a twinky frame but he has put on muscles through gym so now his body is firm and hard. He says he finds it difficult to gain weight but I replied that his current weight and size is just right for his frame. "You have lost weight," he said to me, drawing a smile from me. 

With the closure of Lucky Boys, he no longer dances but works at a proper full time job. Wednesday is his off day so I arranged to meet him. I had always wanted to visit Fake Club but was afraid of going alone. Hence I asked dancer guy whom I shall call T if he could go with me and be translator. T said ok and that was the plan. I met T at hotel lobby, greeted and hugged him. I wanted to get a second room card key for him for him to use the pool or gym but he said not necessary. He would go wherever I went. A few minutes after he came into the hotel room, it started raining outside. So looks like we were stuck indoors for the afternoon. I filled up the bath tub and let T choose the bubble bath flavour. He chose lavender and the next hour or so we got reacquainted. Once the rain stopped, we headed out, had early dinner at a Japanese restaurant followed by massage at Prime massage. T took traditional Thai body massage. He asked for massage lady who could deliver strong and hard strokes. I went for less painful leg massage which was done by a guy. Both massages for 1.5 hours cost 400 baht each.

While chatting about what each of us has been doing the past 2 years, we discovered that we binged on Netflix during the months when there was total lockdown and when most people had to stay indoors. We started talking about our favourite shows. We both loved the policeman brother in Squid Game because he was handsome. We discussed whether he died in the show. He was shot and fell from cliff into the ocean. "But they didn't show his body," T said. Yes, I agree! For all his fans, I hope he returns in Squid Game sequel.

T and I realised that we had not watched the latest season of Stranger Things. I did a screen mirror of my tablet to the hotel TV and we lay in bed and started watching the first two episodes of season 4. After all, it was still early. We had planned to go to Fake Club at 10pm.

However, after the cliffhanger at the end of the second episode, I turned to T, "How about we forget about Fake Club and let's just spend the whole night watching the entire season 4 of Stranger Things?" T agreed and I clicked to start the third episode. And so that was how the night went. Instead of partying at a club with loud music and drinks, we were a domesticated couple watching TV. At midnight, we went to Foodland Patpong for supper then came back to hotel room to continue watching Stranger Things. We called it a night at 2am with another two episodes of season 4 to go.

I was up at 8am and felt T's morning wood next to me. I woke him for some light fun. After that, we went down for breakfast at hotel buffet. I had not booked a room package with breakfast so I would have to pay for any breakfast separately. Usual price 800 baht but I was given discounted price of 360 baht. Good value for money. We ate and surveyed the other hotel guests having breakfast. Most seemed to be here on business trips. Only some who are here on holiday. There were 2 Chinese guys eating together. Tall and gym fit. Eye candy for the eyes. "Singaporean?" T wondered. We then tooks turn walking past their table to get our food. Nope, from their American accent, either Taiwan or US.

After breakfast, we went back to hotel room to continue watching Stranger Things. This time round, I could turn the volume of the TV up as unlikely to have other hotel guests in nearby rooms in morning. At 11am, T had to go off to report to work. We hugged and I thanked T. I was grateful and happy to have had the chance to experience what couples enjoy. No wild night but a simple quiet night of domestic bliss.

[Min]

32 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

A few minutes after he came into the hotel room, it started raining outside. So looks like we were stuck indoors for the afternoon. I filled up the bath tub and let T choose the bubble bath flavour.

Same script, same time, different cast hehe. But no post-coital dinner and massage in my case 

[Min]

34 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Instead of partying at a club with loud music and drinks, we were a domesticated couple watching TV. At midnight, we went to Foodland Patpong for supper then came back to hotel room to continue watching Stranger Things. We called it a night at 2am with another two episodes of season 4 to go.

I started to have some ideas about what you are into. No wonder you are all about LTs. Finding someone on a short trip, who connects on that level, would need some luck though.