Back in Bangkok after 2 years

[jason1975]

I arrived on a Sunday afternoon after being away for two years. Not many people at airport. Need to check Thai Pass before proceeding to immigration. Quick process. Just show Thai Pass QR code on my handphone and the lady scanned it and marked my arrival card. I saw some tourists who printed A4 coloured pages of their QR codes. Not necessary! At immigration area no long snaking queue to reach the immigration counters. About 20 counters open and only 2 or 3 people queueing at each counter. I went to a counter manned by a boyish looking immigration officer with a high crew cut and tight fitting uniform and admired him as he processed my passport! No queue at SIM card counter and taxi stand. Not many cars on highway and roads as well but I attribute it to Sunday afternoon traffic. The moment the taxi driver turned left into Surawong Road, I felt right at home. Passed by The Raya which I had stayed many times in the past but this time, I would be staying at Le Meridien. Gave the taxi driver 500 baht and told him to keep the change as a Le Meridien staff unloaded my luggage. Very efficient and friendly service with great hospitality. I was served a welcome drink of orange juice as I did check-in. I had opted for long term stay at Le Meridien which cost about 2200 baht per night. Clincher was the daily laundry service. Sorry, Raya! I collected my card key and was told to go to room first. My luggage would be sent up shortly. My deluxe room on 16th floor gave me a good view. Spacious room with bath tub and separate shower. The door bell rang and a young lanky porter brought in my luggage. Tipped him 100 baht and he went off happily.

[jason1975]

I set about unpacking my stuff. I switched on Grndr. Within half an hour, i had 3 messages in inbox. One was a ladyboy so sorry I replied. One wanted to see photo of my body. Why? I already had my face on profile! The last was a guy who offered both massage and sightseeing tour services. Interesting combination. Shall consider. I also checked this forum inbox to meet fellow forum members. At 6.30pm, i received a message from a famous forum member. He was having dinner at Soi 4 and i quickly went off just to meet him. It was his final night in Thailand and he was leaving at night.

I walked along the road that used to be Patpong Night market. What a sad sight. Many bars closed. I hope not permanently. There used to be a bar that had live music and lots of Japanese customers. The whole building was shuttered. Two or three girlie gogo bars had their lights on and were preparing for the night. A few touts approached me. "Ping Pong show?" No thanks. Domino's Pizza was open. I remember a meal there with a massage guy. He has since gone back to village. I see photos of cows in his Line account.

Silom Road seemed buzzing unlike Surawong Road. Soi 4 was a hive of activity. Lots of guys hanging outside Balcony and Stranger bars. I found out later that there had been a Pride parade in the afternoon for the start of Pride month. I found forum member eating at G Bangkok with a muscular Thai guy.

"Vinapu!" I said loudly!

His companion was startled. I shook forum member's hand and we chatted as though we were old friends. In fact, it was my first time meeting him but I felt i knew him because of the posts on this forum over the years. I didn't want to intrude into his dinner with his companion so i wished him safe journey and hope to see him again another time this year. Before leaving, i asked him quietly where he found his friend.

He whispered in my ear. "Tawan."

[jason1975]

I walked back to Hotel. I used the small lane leading to Patpong. The shop that sold luggage now had half its space converted to a small food outlet. "SM show!" I heard. The unique SM show bar was still open. Good for them! I had always fantasized taking a guy in there but I could never broach the topic of BDSM with the guys I met. There were two girlie gogo bars open but the rest of the soi was dark. I had dinner at Foodland Patpong and bought drinks and snacks from supermarket. I always stock up as I didn't want any potential guests in my hotel room at night to be famished. I passed by the small bar below Freshboys. There was a bar tender and a farang was enjoying his drink while getting a shoulder and back massage by a waiter. I believe the staff are Vietnamese. I made a mental note to drop by for a drink one of these days.

[jason1975]

Back in hotel room, i chatted with more guys on Grndr. No luck. I arranged to meet another forum member once he is in Bangkok a few days later. I also got back in touch with a Cambodian guy whom i knew previously from Lucky Boys. He is off on Wednesday and i enjoy having dinner with him as he's an excellent conversationist. I am hoping he will go with me to Fake Club. I obviously can't speak Thai so I need someone to guide me on my first time there.

At 10pm, i crossed Surawong Road and proceeded to Tawan. Very small bar. It's a longish design with stage on one side and seats directly facing. It reminds me of Classic Boys at old Soi Twilight. Yes, that bar with the water tank and the merman performing. Hands up, those of you who watched that show!

[jason1975]

Inside Tawan, there were 3 guys in white briefs with black dots. Leopard pattern. I would have prefered plain white but at least they are not in jeans. And their briefs are the bikini type which shows their dick shape clearly pointed down. All muscled guys but with many tattoos. Only one tall guy without tattoo and one boyish looking guy with only a small tattoo on his chest. He's the smallest size among all the guys hence vinapu called him a twink when he reported in Tawan forum topic. He's what i would call a twunk - a twink who works out in gym. But very offable. In fact, he would be offed by customer at end of show.

Vinapu's dinner companion recognised and greeted me. I got him to sit with me. Excellent firm muscles but i told him no off as it was my first night and i wanted to take it slow. I bought him two drinks through the night and also tipped him. He was affectionate with me and gave me good strong massage. I think he would be an excellent LT. But he's not really my type. The show itself was entertaining - candle and wax performance by one guy, lip synching by 3 singers taking turns, one of whom was a ladyboy, SM themed act and simulated sex with 3 guys sucking another 3 guys but with condom. A group of 4 farang enjoyed themselves and were generously tipping. About 17 to 18 customers. About 10 to 12 muscle guys. To be truthful, i got the hots for one of the staff. He was buff and wore Hawaiian shirt. It was his black glasses that turned me on. Nerdy hottie! Mamasan was very friendly and helpful with questions. Show ended with big cock show by 3 guys. One of them let out a gush of creamy cum into the air. Spectacular! After that, final rotation for the night. Guys were naked to entice offs before midnight. I said goodbye to my newfound friend. I might go back if i fancy LT with him. Early days yet. Many more bars and guys to check out.

[flashbarryallen]

@jason1975I'm looking forward to seeing the staff wearing glasses as I also have a thing for hot/nerdy guys. Maybe I'll have to bring a pair of nonprescription glasses for a guy to wear 😂

 

[jason1975]

Got this from Tawan!

[Min]

6 hours ago, jason1975 said:

I would be staying at Le Meridien. I had opted for long term stay at Le Meridien which cost about 2200 baht per night. 

Le Meridien has been running a very good promotion (during my stay, 2900 baht per night including breakfast which is they say worth 800 bath and also 1000 bath hotel credit per day to spend on drinks, dinner and spa). You should try their Latest Recipe meals, which can be paid by hotel credit.

6 hours ago, jason1975 said:

I found forum member eating at G Bangkok with a muscular Thai guy. "Vinapu!" I said loudly! 

In fact, it was my first time meeting him but I felt i knew him because of the posts on this forum over the years.

How could you know it was him? Cuz he was with a muscular guy?

5 hours ago, jason1975 said:

I had dinner at Foodland Patpong and bought drinks and snacks from supermarket. I always stock up as I didn't want any potential guests in my hotel room at night to be famished.

Have any guests to your room ever walked out the door still hungry for more?

3 hours ago, jason1975 said:

one boyish looking guy with only a small tattoo on his chest. He's the smallest size among all the guys hence vinapu called him a twink when he reported in Tawan forum topic. He's what i would call a twunk - a twink who works out in gym. But very offable. In fact, he would be offed by customer at end of show.

Would you off him when you have a chance? It looks like we share the same taste so I may give this bar a try.

[jason1975]

I am waiting for the right guy for LT and i will happily treat him to breakfast at hotel buffet. Breakfast is not included in my long term package (only laundry) but breakfast is 50% discount

[jason1975]

Twunk boy at Tawan does ST only.

[jason1975]

Oh, vinapu did mention that the boys call him Mr KFC. Thats how i spotted him quickly. And the fact that he was with a muscle boy confirm his identity for me!

[Min]

5 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Twunk boy at Tawan does ST only.

Work for me. I seldom did LT. Couldn't remember the last time I did.

3 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Oh, vinapu did mention that the boys call him Mr KFC. Thats how i spotted him quickly. And the fact that he was with a muscle boy confirm his identity for me!

Any chance he could be the actual Colonel Sanders in real life?

[innitalex]

Love the trip report! Thanks so much for posting and can’t wait for the next instalment. 

[vinapu]

18 hours ago, jason1975 said:

Oh, vinapu did mention that the boys call him Mr KFC. Thats how i spotted him quickly. And the fact that he was with a muscle boy confirm his identity for me!

not only boys but also Ladies and ladyboy performer At Tawan"s  lip sync show. I was abused that way  at least 6-8 times this trip but I don't mind because indeed they called me Mr. KFC , not KFC guy or something 

[jason1975]

Morning of Day 2 was spent at hotel pool. But forgot to put sunblock so was sun burnt. This was why when I went to M-star Massage at about 4pm, i chose the aloe vera massage. I wanted aloe vera to soothe sun burnt skin. 900 baht for 1.5 hour. M-star massage is an all-male massage shop at soi 6. But it is not Arena or Prince. No choosing of guys and there is a rotation system. Only 3 guys when I was there because all the other guys were busy with customers. If only I had gone a bit later, i would have gotten a boyish looking guy seated in his mid-20s and playing on his phone. Instead, i got a guy in his 30s. He took me up the stairs. No available rooms on levels 2, 3 and 4. I saw a customer in towel walking to toilet on level 3. I ended up on top level 5 but these were rooms with shower inside. So good for me. But those steps. Massage was decent. Strong strokes. But massage guy wanted 2000 baht for extras otherwise tip for normal massage is 500 baht. I offered 1000 baht and in the end settled for 1200 baht. Extras was ok but massage guy was straight and so he wasn't sensual enough to make it a more erotic and enjoyable experience. After massage, i showered and went down the tricky stairs. Had to watch my head or else would have bumped against the low ceiling. I was offered jasmine tea and cold towel before leaving. When i came down, i saw the full complement of massage guys on their chairs. They had finished with their customers. About 10 of them, 3 of whom i took a liking. But i wouldn't go back. Not unless i get to choose my massage guy.

[spoon]

21 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

Morning of Day 2 was spent at hotel pool. But forgot to put sunblock so was sun burnt. This was why when I went to M-star Massage at about 4pm, i chose the aloe vera massage. I wanted aloe vera to soothe sun burnt skin. 900 baht for 1.5 hour. M-star massage is an all-male massage shop at soi 6. But it is not Arena or Prince. No choosing of guys and there is a rotation system. Only 3 guys when I was there because all the other guys were busy with customers. If only I had gone a bit later, i would have gotten a boyish looking guy seated in his mid-20s and playing on his phone. Instead, i got a guy in his 30s. He took me up the stairs. No available rooms on levels 2, 3 and 4. I saw a customer in towel walking to toilet on level 3. I ended up on top level 5 but these were rooms with shower inside. So good for me. But those steps. Massage was decent. Strong strokes. But massage guy wanted 2000 baht for extras otherwise tip for normal massage is 500 baht. I offered 1000 baht and in the end settled for 1200 baht. Extras was ok but massage guy was straight and so he wasn't sensual enough to make it a more erotic and enjoyable experience. After massage, i showered and went down the tricky stairs. Had to watch my head or else would have bumped against the low ceiling. I was offered jasmine tea and cold towel before leaving. When i came down, i saw the full complement of massage guys on their chairs. They had finished with their customers. About 10 of them, 3 of whom i took a liking. But i wouldn't go back. Not unless i get to choose my massage guy.

Is choosing masseur totally a no, or only during peak time? That was the case for prime, not able to choose when they were busy, but if u go when low season, u can choose on the ipad. 

[jason1975]

At 9.30pm i headed off to New Twilight. Its bright LED display made it stand out in the dark soi. Impressive place. Big stage flanked on 3 sides by seats. Large and wide LED wall made the show later really spectacular. Better than Jupiter and Moonlight. Unfortunately guys were pretty average. No models. But according to mamasan, they are asking for 3000 ST and 4000 LT. Mamasan said can negotiate individually with guys to go down to 2500 ST and 3500 LT. But bar fine is only 300 baht!

6 boys on rotation on stage. Jeans but shirtless. There was a group of free spending Chinese customers. They already had 4 boys seated with them and several bottles opened. I took a seat at the corner and mamasan showed me the drinks menu. I liked the place's vibes and 2 of the 6 boys already appealed to me. I had a feeling i would be spending quite some time here so I decided to get a bottle of Jim Bean. 3500 baht with free mixers. And there was complimentary platter of potato chips and nuts. The previous night, i had spent 1600 baht on 2 beers and 2 drinks for guy at Tawan.

[jason1975]

Guy with number 28 tag appealed to me. But just as I wanted to invite him over, he and another guy were summoned to the group of Chinese customers. Grrr. Mamasan was friendly and very good in English. I had a feeling that I had spoken to him in the past because his accent seemed familiar. I asked him if he worked at other bars before coming to New Twilight. Yes, he replied. He was at Moonlight. He said his friend asked him to go over. We made small talk while toasting drinks. A waiter caught my eye. Slim and boyish. Likely gay. I think the experience with straight massage guy in afternoon had scarred me (and my poor manhandled dick). I definitely wanted a gay companion for the night. I asked mamasan, "Waiter go with customer?"

"Yes, but only after show finish at 11.30."

Jackpot!

[jason1975]

Show at New Twilight was good. They made use of LED wall effectively. The same show found in other bars is now enhanced through technology.  Pity the pillar in the middle otherwise there would be an unobstructed view.  Two energetic dancers danced with lip synching ladyboy. She did Beyonce and Annie Lennox (one of my favourites!). They received shots and tips from many appreciative audience members including yours truly. Some of the guys also did a SM item complete with bondage gear and dog masks, tails and leashes. No hardcore acts like in Tawan. No nudity at all in fact! Last performance was 4 guys dancing coyote style. Gosh. I miss that so much that i tipped all 4 of them.  My bottle was only half finished so i asked for it to be kept for tomorrow night. Waiter guy was ready and we went off. Thai 26 years old but looks younger. Back in hotel room, had pleasant surprise. He was a kisser! I felt so embarrassed that i had cigarette breath. Must make a note to get mouth rinse for tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow i am seeing waiter guy again. The only downer is no LT because he has 2 jobs. But ST with him is good enough for me.

[jason1975]

3 hours ago, spoon said:

Is choosing masseur totally a no, or only during peak time? That was the case for prime, not able to choose when they were busy, but if u go when low season, u can choose on the ipad. 

I suspect no choosing allowed because it was busy time.

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, jason1975 said:

 Not unless i get to choose my massage guy.

it reminded me that Namo ,  one of my most offed guys in human history  was actually assigned to me from rotation at Bangkok Massage.

So simply you got somewhat bad luck.

I'm not enemy of rotation system  as it gives a chance to everybody but like you I'd not return unless I have  a chance to choose the guy

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, jason1975 said:

At 9.30pm i headed off to New Twilight. Its bright LED display made it stand out in the dark soi. Impressive place. Big stage flanked on 3 sides by seats. Large and wide LED wall made the show later really spectacular. Better than Jupiter and Moonlight. Unfortunately guys were pretty average. No models. But according to mamasan, they are asking for 3000 ST and 4000 LT. Mamasan said can negotiate individually with guys to go down to 2500 ST and 3500 LT. But bar fine is only 300 baht!

6 boys on rotation on stage. Jeans but shirtless. There was a group of free spending Chinese customers. They already had 4 boys seated with them and several bottles opened. I took a seat at the corner and mamasan showed me the drinks menu. I liked the place's vibes and 2 of the 6 boys already appealed to me. I had a feeling i would be spending quite some time here so I decided to get a bottle of Jim Bean. 3500 baht with free mixers. And there was complimentary platter of potato chips and nuts. The previous night, i had spent 1600 baht on 2 beers and 2 drinks for guy at Tawan.

I find an idea of negotiation boy's tip with mamasan very strange to put it mildly.  Why not to do it directly with service provider ?

I think thy tried to institute model model so to speak as it was justification given to me for inflated LT (5000 )  tip requested by gut in the beginning of my last trip , but for lack of models they gave up on that. My guy hired then two weeks later was seen in the Jupiter stage.

I'm pretty sure guys will go 2000 St , 3000 LT ( that I'm very f....g sure ) and be grateful , everything above will be mamasan cut. Off fee I paid on Saturday was 500 so possibly they have different fees on weekends and weekdays?

I agree  that NewTwilight has good vibe and deserves success. They treat employees well . Boy's cut on drink price is generous 140. And boys like to work there  as per  guy I offed.

Only thing to watch on next visit is some waiters tend to plant themselves beside you uninvited and expect drink and ask for tip, this part I did not like.

As for buying guy 2 drinks  at Tawan next time consider leaving him with just one and tip him higher for sitting with you instead., Yes , bars want to make money  money but so do boys. Specially guy you were sitting with is particularly deserving type ( single father, mother abandoned child , now raised by his parents, he sends money regularly which I learned from third party source - waiter in restaurant I frequent often and know from  soi Twilight times turned out to be his 1st cousin )

[jason1975]

26 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I find an idea of negotiation boy's tip with mamasan very strange to put it mildly.  Why not to do it directly with service provider ?

I think thy tried to institute model model so to speak as it was justification given to me for inflated LT (5000 )  tip requested by gut in the beginning of my last trip , but for lack of models they gave up on that. My guy hired then two weeks later was seen in the Jupiter stage.

I'm pretty sure guys will go 2000 St , 3000 LT ( that I'm very f....g sure ) and be grateful , everything above will be mamasan cut. Off fee I paid on Saturday was 500 so possibly they have different fees on weekends and weekdays?

I agree  that NewTwilight has good vibe and deserves success. Only thing to watch on next visit is some waiters tend to plant themselves beside you uninvited and expect drink and ask for tip, this part I did not like.

As for buying guy 2 drinks  at Tawan next time consider leaving him with just one and tip him higher for sitting with you instead., Yes , bars want to make money  money but so do boys. Specially guy you were sitting with is particularly deserving type ( single father, mother abandoned child , now raised by his parents, he sends money regularly which I learned from third party source - waiter in restaurant I frequent often and know from  soi Twilight times turned out to be his 1st cousin )

Yes i agree that buying 1 drink and giving higher tip would be better for guy but it didn't occur to me then.

Different off fees on different days? Something new for me.

It's possible that mamasans inflate ST and LT tips for boys when communicating with new customers. But it doesn't matter to me. I doubt i will ever off anyone from the stage. There's only one guy for me from the bar. I am simply infatuated with him! Can't wait to kiss him later!

 

[vinapu]

1 minute ago, jason1975 said:

 

It's possible that mamasans inflate ST and LT tips. But it doesn't matter to me. I doubt i will ever off anyone from the stage. There's only one guy for me from the bar. I am simply infatuated with him! Can't wait to kiss him later!

 

too bad I'm already home as I 'm be curious who that waiter is and I'd be first in bar when they opened tonight to check , lol

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I find an idea of negotiation boy's tip with mamasan very strange to put it mildly.  Why not to do it directly with service provider ?

I also prefer direct discussion with the service provider, preferably excluding the mamasan from the entire process.    Therefore I benefit from eye contact, spotting if there's any hesitation in the reply from the service provider and so on.

Of course, this means I'm investing in a boy drink before having a clue what the boy might do, but it usually works out.