Clube 555 versus Lagoa

[sydneyboy1]

A question for recent travellers. As the dust settles on the pandemic, how do these 2 São Paulo rent boy saunas compare? There have been recent reports on Lagoa but a comparative with Clube 555 would be welcome.

[Guest]

I was aware of 555 when in SP recently - but not enough online reviews or information here to take the risk, given Lagoa was a sure thing & all the other options.  555 was close enough to go - but far enough to give pause for the geographic inconvenience (I was in jardins south of Paulista near MASP).  
Lagoa had every type you could possibly want and it’s totally set-up for the convenience of tourists.  Accessible & safe.  I just don’t know why anyone would bother to go elsewhere.  There were so many guys when I went (40-50), that I only noticed a few that were there multiple nights.  No shortage of dick at Lagoa.

[sydneyboy1]

30 minutes ago, Slvkguy said:

I was aware of 555 when in SP recently - but not enough online reviews or information here to take the risk, given Lagoa was a sure thing & all the other options.  555 was close enough to go - but far enough to give pause for the geographic inconvenience (I was in jardins south of Paulista near MASP).  
Lagoa had every type you could possibly want and it’s totally set-up for the convenience of tourists.  Accessible & safe.  I just don’t know why anyone would bother to go elsewhere.  There were so many guys when I went (40-50), that I only noticed a few that were there multiple nights.  No shortage of dick at Lagoa.

Thank you. I have been to São Paulo 9 times but not in recent years for obvious reasons. I sampled the delights of Lagoa and Fragata in there old locations many times. Your description of Lagoa is very encouraging and sounds like old times in a new location. I have very fond memories of the old Fragata and I am still intrigued by Clube 555. Any comments welcome.

[Riobard]

I went to 555 on one occasion when there for 6 weeks. A handful of escorts; none interested me. Arrived too early, about 17:00, had to kill a few boring hours waiting for more/better possible action and the show. Some minor interaction with gogos and obtained one phone number. Without the special  birthday group, that did not seem to be there for the trade, I would estimate about half a dozen clients scattered in the very large performance bar. The address was not inconvenient and was about the same distance from my accommodations as Lagoa. Über a few bucks. For contrast is a depiction of the latter’s event the same night; I obviously missed it but I assume it was crowded. In any case, I would see no point in returning to 555 unless one wanted to make a pit stop out of fear of missing out. It likely has a small loyal following. 

[floridarob]

I went on opening night and a few times after.....no reason to return for me. Has nothing in common with Fragata except that it's a sauna. I think the massage guy was the only worker that I recognized there....very disorganized, too many levels. A pain to get to for the boys......

I like the "guy next door" type that Fragata used to have, Lagoa now attracts them.

[gap1972]

I would second floridarob. Was at 555 last Saturday. Love the facilities. I really feel sorry for the owner who is trying hard to please clients, 2for1 entry, free snacks, strippers. But still not many clients as most clients are going for the boys, not the snacks or strippers. 555 is more difficult to reach on public transit than Lagoa. While Uber cost is trivial for many of us, it is not feasible for boys. For local clients who want to save 50 on the boys in 555, I imagine Uber cost would be a deterrent for them as well. 

My count was there were not many clients, but even fewer boys on-site for a heavily promoted Saturday. Perhaps the owner should focus more on attracting boys, clients will follow! Offering boys free entry for a couple days of the week for example to make a hot day for the club. I do miss the old Fragata Tuesday.

great facilities and hard working owner and staff, I truly wish them success, but it doesn’t look very promising so far.

Lagoa on the other hand, has been very busy and happening FR, SU and MO when I visited. I imagine Saturday must have been great as well. Lagoa now also has many old fragata boy next door type. 

[sydneyboy1]

Thank you for all the helpful replies to my original post. This forum at its best!

[SolaceSoul]

13 hours ago, gap1972 said:

Perhaps the owner should focus more on attracting boys, clients will follow!

This part. 

clients go to saunas for beautiful, available men (must haves), not architecture, dinner menus or stage shows (nice to haves, but not musts).
 

 

[davet]

I just came back from Brazil a few weeks ago. Headlines:

1. Didn't bother going to 555, given how mediocre even Lagoa was.

2. Lagoa is just not like the sauna of yore in the old location. The horse-dicks are still there as well as many twinks and "veterans" (guys I passed up 5 or 10 years ago). But gone are the massive muscles and flawless beauties you want to suck face with for half an hour. Gone is the ambience of a horny frat house you can rampage through like a slutty cheerleader. On my two visits, I barely hooked up with one garoto each time.  

3. But that doesn't by any means suggest that hot muscle sex in Sao Paulo is no longer happening. The scene has moved to the "tantric massage" houses, where I found bods to compare with the best from 20 years at old Lagoa. They are more expensive and less participatory, though participation seems to be upwardly negotiable along with fees. However, one guy at a massage house (250-350 R) does not cost much more than a sauna visit where you could find only one guy to your liking (150 + ~120 sauna entry & cabin). In return, you get a much nicer room, more time, and even something almost approaching a professional massage. 

4. For nostalgia, I went to the old Lagoa site. Veterans here might remember this ritual: the shopping center with the metro stop, the Habib's for a pre- or post-snack, and what used to be the Citibank I withdrew garoto cash from. But the former happiest place on earth is now a construction site with another skinny condo tower going up.

5. Rio was better but also subdued. Will write more about that maybe later.

[Riobard]

Point #3; I am inclined to agree.

Best in class, over an entire month inclusive of Lagoa, a guy in one of the massage spas at 60% the cost of the former venue when accounting for admission, 1-hour cabin, and 1-hour bonus for the garoto de programa. 

However, it’s worth it to utilize both formats, as entry to Lagoa is not so exorbitant even if you are just there to enjoy the energy, social interaction, and particularly entertainment on nights that is featured … as well as the possibility of a rare gem. 

[babybear2]

9 hours ago, davet said:

I just came back from Brazil a few weeks ago. Headlines:

1. Didn't bother going to 555, given how mediocre even Lagoa was.

2. Lagoa is just not like the sauna of yore in the old location. The horse-dicks are still there as well as many twinks and "veterans" (guys I passed up 5 or 10 years ago). But gone are the massive muscles and flawless beauties you want to suck face with for half an hour. Gone is the ambience of a horny frat house you can rampage through like a slutty cheerleader. On my two visits, I barely hooked up with one garoto each time.  

3. But that doesn't by any means suggest that hot muscle sex in Sao Paulo is no longer happening. The scene has moved to the "tantric massage" houses, where I found bods to compare with the best from 20 years at old Lagoa. They are more expensive and less participatory, though participation seems to be upwardly negotiable along with fees. However, one guy at a massage house (250-350 R) does not cost much more than a sauna visit where you could find only one guy to your liking (150 + ~120 sauna entry & cabin). In return, you get a much nicer room, more time, and even something almost approaching a professional massage. 

4. For nostalgia, I went to the old Lagoa site. Veterans here might remember this ritual: the shopping center with the metro stop, the Habib's for a pre- or post-snack, and what used to be the Citibank I withdrew garoto cash from. But the former happiest place on earth is now a construction site with another skinny condo tower going up.

5. Rio was better but also subdued. Will write more about that maybe later.

I wish I had visited during the prime time of Logoa and Fragata (maybe that is 10 years ago), everyone says it is soooo much better than nowadays....

[babybear2]

@davet which massage house you recommend? Lotus? inhouseagencia? Or?

[sydneyboy1]

11 minutes ago, babybear2 said:

@davet which massage house you recommend? Lotus? inhouseagencia? Or?

Good question!

[davet]

2 hours ago, babybear2 said:

@davet which massage house you recommend? Lotus? inhouseagencia? Or?

Coincidentally, those were the two I went to. They are equal in price and quality. Given the recent issues, I don't want to "over-identify" these guys. Let's say they ARE the guys in the picture. A couple times, it took me a few minutes to confirm this, but that's because people just look different from their professional shots. If anything, the guys were a little more muscular and a few years older, but still pretty stunning.

Xtudio Lotus is in hilly aclimacao, a 20-minute walk from Paraiso metro. I had a "quatro manos" massage for 450 R. They started with rubbing my feet and legs and worked their way up. Somehow, they never got past the pelvic region, LOL, but it was better than most massages given by sex workers as there were some signs of formal training. I have never been lucky putting together a 3-way, but this one knocked it out of the park. The two guys' apparent familiarity with each other and team play experience must have helped. Mind you, there was no reciprocation or kissing but I wonder if that could be negotiated. For penetration, they wanted an extra 100 R each, which was well worth the tag-team to follow. All in all, 650 for 2 guys as hot as ever, 1 hour of sex as hot as ever. It was in a nice, clean house. The mattress was on the floor but the sheets were laundry-fresh. A spotless bathroom was down the hall.

InHouse was in Vila Mariana (a great little neighborhood to stay and eat in, by the way), also a clean, modern house. One time I must have gotten the deluxe suite with an in-room jacuzzi. The second time was more like the Lotus set-up. I engaged 1 muscle guy for 250 the first time and another 4-hands for 450 (no penetration) the 2nd time. Interestingly, not all guys would do 4-hands, which I was told when I picked the first 2 guys I wanted from their website. So InHouse told me to just come by and the talent will come out to greet you. It's not as awkward as the experience of 25 Thai boys dropping everything to line up and stare at you. LOL. It helped that the very first guy, who wasn't even on their website, already had me at ola.

I have two long-term Brazilian fixations. One of them is a Brazilian Asian stripper I saw at Lagoa some years ago. Now he's listed at one of the other agencies. We almost had a date, and then I was told he was working in Campinas that week. Oh well. 

I cannot emphasize enough what a thoroughly pleasant experience this was. All 5 guys were very friendly, decent, almost charming. They all spoke some English. It's a less crazy experience than in a sauna cabine (except for the 3-way at Lotus, which got sweaty-crazy) and a more relaxing time, which was what I was after. Each time, I scheduled an appointment only 1-2 hrs in advance. A couple guys were strippers or go-gos working the night clubs later that evening, but they said they were available "full time" to come to the house for an appointment.

The saunas are rodizios - one guy after another coming around with skewers of meat. There are better and worse, but rodizios are usually quantity over quality. The massage houses are more like a la carte restaurants where you can have a limited but more leisurely repast. I used to wonder what would happen if the lumpen clay of magnificent beauty that was at Lagoa actually should get some refinement and training (by a caring, expert, and thorough trainer such as myself) to turn them into courtesans. This might be it.

[babybear2]

20 minutes ago, davet said:

Coincidentally, those were the two I went to. They are equal in price and quality. Given the recent issues, I don't want to "over-identify" these guys. Let's say they ARE the guys in the picture. A couple times, it took me a few minutes to confirm this, but that's because people just look different from their professional shots. If anything, the guys were a little more muscular and a few years older, but still pretty stunning.

Xtudio Lotus is in hilly aclimacao, a 20-minute walk from Paraiso metro. I had a "quatro manos" massage for 450 R. They started with rubbing my feet and legs and worked their way up. Somehow, they never got past the pelvic region, LOL, but it was better than most massages given by sex workers as there were some signs of formal training. I have never been lucky putting together a 3-way, but this one knocked it out of the park. The two guys' apparent familiarity with each other and team play experience must have helped. Mind you, there was no reciprocation or kissing but I wonder if that could be negotiated. For penetration, they wanted an extra 100 R each, which was well worth the tag-team to follow. All in all, 650 for 2 guys as hot as ever, 1 hour of sex as hot as ever. It was in a nice, clean house. The mattress was on the floor but the sheets were laundry-fresh. A spotless bathroom was down the hall.

InHouse was in Vila Mariana (a great little neighborhood to stay and eat in, by the way), also a clean, modern house. One time I must have gotten the deluxe suite with an in-room jacuzzi. The second time was more like the Lotus set-up. I engaged 1 muscle guy for 250 the first time and another 4-hands for 450 (no penetration) the 2nd time. Interestingly, not all guys would do 4-hands, which I was told when I picked the first 2 guys I wanted from their website. So InHouse told me to just come by and the talent will come out to greet you. It's not as awkward as the experience of 25 Thai boys dropping everything to line up and stare at you. LOL. It helped that the very first guy, who wasn't even on their website, already had me at ola.

I have two long-term Brazilian fixations. One of them is a Brazilian Asian stripper I saw at Lagoa some years ago. Now he's listed at one of the other agencies. We almost had a date, and then I was told he was working in Campinas that week. Oh well. 

I cannot emphasize enough what a thoroughly pleasant experience this was. All 5 guys were very friendly, decent, almost charming. They all spoke some English. It's a less crazy experience than in a sauna cabine (except for the 3-way at Lotus, which got sweaty-crazy) and a more relaxing time, which was what I was after. Each time, I scheduled an appointment only 1-2 hrs in advance. A couple guys were strippers or go-gos working the night clubs later that evening, but they said they were available "full time" to come to the house for an appointment.

The saunas are rodizios - one guy after another coming around with skewers of meat. There are better and worse, but rodizios are usually quantity over quality. The massage houses are more like a la carte restaurants where you can have a limited but more leisurely repast. I used to wonder what would happen if the lumpen clay of magnificent beauty that was at Lagoa actually should get some refinement and training (by a caring, expert, and thorough trainer such as myself) to turn them into courtesans. This might be it.

Thanks for sharing. I visited inhouseagencia before, but I can only choose from photos.  In sauna, I can see the real person first

Other than that, the massage house is a good alternative 

[pauleiro]

I went to new Lagoa in Consolaçao yesterday which was a saturday. I was a bit disappointed, keeping in mind the former Lagoa location : the main room is much smaller and bar and kitchen occupies à large part of the room ; the layout of the building (4 floors) is confusing : you always wonder where you are ; there is consequently a lot of stairs ; there are not as many boys as in the past (linked to the size of the room I guess). But it is clean, the food seems to be as good as before, the rooms are new, most (all ?) with showers, the common showers are visible from the main room and it is a permanent show to see the boys showering. For the customers, there is a shower which is partially hidden. It is a shame that some boys use this particular shower ... 

I stayed at the Heritage hotel, which is 5 minutes walk to the hotel and very nice. Sujinho ("little dirty") is a restaurant on Consolaçao which is opened very late and which is well known among Paulistas. Worth discovering the coffee shop and the main restaurant on the other side of the street.

[xpaulo]

On 5/18/2022 at 8:24 AM, floridarob said:

I like the "guy next door" type that Fragata

I know exactly what you mean, they could have been the young mechanics, or roofers, or plumbers I'd see around town and lust after on a daily basis. Nice to know they're at Lagoa.