Midguy1 Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 Excellent reports, thank you for writing them. Regarding the chat in the thread about the constant messages on the apps from previous contacts, they can get very annoying and tedious, but I've only needed to block 2 or 3 in all the trips I've made so far in my experience. At first I just try and keep the replies short, non committal and polite, and then I ignore when it gets too much. After about 6 messages they tend to give up. Only the very persistent I block - I've only had one occasion where it got a bit messy where the blocked guy turned up at the hotel. Fortunately the receptionist managed to calm the guy down and sorted it so he didn't return - I felt a bit bad about it so made sure the receptionist was suitably rewarded. I've also befriended a few guys on Facebook, usually when heart has been ruling head or in the heat of the moment usually regretting it the next day. I then tend to put on restricted mode for the rest of the trip and then delete when I return home. I used to feel a bit bad for not responding, but have learnt to be a bit tough about it otherwise it would take over a considerable amount of time engaging and replying. I guess there are worse problems to have though... vinapu, Boy69 and Ryanqqq 3 Quote
PeterRS Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Gaybutton said: In short, when it is truly fair I have no problem with it. But sometimes I see it as nothing more than a scam and rip-off. When that happens I usually won't go to that venue. I'll just have to try to survive somehow without going wherever that was. When is life fair for all? Never! If someone gets pissed off, there are usually alternatives of some sort. Maybe they will be just as expensive but probably better quality. As far as transport in Chiang Mai is concerned, 'twas ever thus! As far back as 1987 on my first visit it was a lot more expensive than by comparison with Bangkok. But what are you going to do about it? It is what it is. At least now with Grab you get a quotation and a car that will usually turn up in only a few minutes. Same as transport in Phuket which for decades was - and maybe still is - run by some kind of mafia. If you don't like it, hire a jeep or a car. I just can't be bothered with the moaners who believe they could run things better (no doubt true) and that everything should be a matter of supply and demand for everyone (why?). This is Thailand - not England, not the USA, not Australia or any other country. What about all those first world countries I mentioned in my earlier post which appear not to have double pricing but make sure the tourist pays by slapping a tourist tax on every visit? What's the difference? Do moaners quibble about paying a tax which might be the same as an extra euro or so on a Swiss tram? Ruthrieston and khaolakguy 2 Quote
Gaybutton Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, PeterRS said: When is life fair for all? Who's talking about whether life is fair? I'm talking about whether prices are fair. Don't you think that's just a little bit different? Like I said, I don't mind paying a fair, reasonable price beyond what Thais pay. But I mind very much when somebody is trying to rip me off. The venue owners of some of those places that try to rip-off people don't mind at all having their hands out, but if the situation was reversed and they find themselves having to pay an unreasonable price somewhere, they would be the first ones to start screaming. To me it's very simple - if you don't mind paying the price, have a good time. If you do mind, then don't go. Quote
vinapu Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Gaybutton said: ..... sometimes I see it as nothing more than a scam and rip-off. When that happens I usually won't go to that venue. I'll just have to try to survive somehow without going wherever that was. and that is solution we should employ , either grind teeth and pay or give it a miss and see it on You Tube. Excessive pricing happens in every country, dual pricing or not - we have the same solution , go or not to go. Sometimes we regret later we were stingy or acted excessively on principle and did not visit desired place ( did not buy something we liked , did not off boy who was charming and hot etc.). I learned that lesson from my friend who years ago skipped on Uffizi Galleria in Florence because of price of admission. Then life came and it took her 30 years before she was able to visit Florence again determined to go there no matter of price. She did not because some issues and place was closed, fortunately just for a day. Third attempt was successful but she admitted she lived 30 years with kind of guilt she was so cheap. khaolakguy, PeterRS and Ruthrieston 3 Quote
vinapu Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 8 hours ago, z909 said: However, I dislike the principle of baht buses at the Northern Bus station trying to charge me 6x the price, when their costs are the same. that is universal, not just Pattaya or Thailand's problem. Taxi drivers at point of entry like airport or rail station often try to scam price of suspected newcomers , not even necessarily foreigners. Meter not working, there's obligatory flat rate etc. stories. Happen to me in my city even if I live in very well behaved place but was taken for foreigner because luggage and accent, lol Quote
vinapu Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Midguy1 said: Excellent reports, thank you for writing them. .......... I used to feel a bit bad for not responding, but have learnt to be a bit tough about it otherwise it would take over a considerable amount of time engaging and replying. thank you , you will have plenty of chance to get bored as it was quite long trip of mine. .......... I had the same feeling of being impolite but fast realized that vacation time is too precious to spent it on the apps Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 5, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 5, 2022 Day 9 Exercises, steamy as they were finished early today and at 7.30 am we went for breakfast, too early it turned out so I gave N 100 baht to buy something for himself, he went home and judging by his good bye look , without any faith he will not see me again as I claimed. Perhaps he heard all those farang promises before , we will learn in due course who was right. I returned to the room , packed and at 8.30 returned to have my lonely French breakfast. Soon after waved good bye to Agate , marched to bus station and at 9.30 was on my way to Swampy where at 12.25 I had Thai Smile flight to Chiang Mai for 2610 baht return , luggage and seat choice ( window) included. Airport was quite empty and quiet at mid-day and even resident demons had their masks on. No fuss with bureaucracy and covid related documents, on check-in they wanted to see ThaiPass QR code. Good visibility and in 1 hr we landed. Airport in Chiang Mai is quite close, almost walking distance from old city but my hotel of choice for first 2 nights was Viangbua Mansion and reason for that was proximity to Adam’a Apple bar on the same street about 150 m away. Apart from walking one can take songtaew ( in Chiang Mai ride costs 30 baht, 3 times Pattaya rate) , bus and taxi to his destination. There are well posted booths for pre-paid taxis , 150 baht to old City destinations, bit more to outlaying areas so I was asked to pay 200. Nice weather and bit cooler and drier air than in BKK and Pattaya. As mentioned before hotel rated courtesy of covid are low so I splurged on Executive Suite about 1200 baht per night breakfast included. What I saw was impressive. Not only view toward DoiSuthep temple but room itself was of condo size, big living room with kitchenette, microwave, desk and 2 tables, separate bedroom with another desk and then full bathroom with shower, tube, separate toilet and balcony with fixed racks to dry the clothes. Well raised person would say WOW ! seeing all that opulence but I could only master O fuck ! seeing all that spotless luxury. Even airport demons wear the mask. My Executive Suite in Viangbua Mansion BL8gPt, reader, Boy69 and 8 others 11 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 5, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 5, 2022 Day 9 continued I’m not big fan of luxurious accommodation , not only because of costs but I noticed that I tend to spend more time in the room luxuriating as opposite to more Spartan digs where I tend to leave as soon as I settle. But here with the view I wanted to have a tea, then coffee and soon I noticed that day is graying and that is my first day ever in Chiang Mai. From there it’s about 20 minutes walk to closest city gate Chang Puak. Few steps and big disappointment as Adams Apple is permanently closed with ‘ for rent ‘sign. What one can do ? Smile and carry on to nearest banana pancake stall to have some nourishment. It was quite dark already but Chiang Mai is easy to navigate with moated old City at the Center so I crossed Old city to Chiang Mai gate on opposite end, turned left along the moat toward Tapae gate, crossed moat there and went straight to soi 4 to my planned destination – Classic House massage. Entrance has sign but still it’s easy to miss as is covered in greenery which on another hand stands out so you know you are there. Very discreet entrance, few boys inside and friendly mamas an behind the counter who gladly explained procedures and prices, told me there are more guys in the back room. Tariff for 1.50 hr. massage 600 , minimum tip I forgot but something like 800-1000 and when learned I will be in the city 4 days told me that 5 massaged will get 6th free with immediate idea how to squeeze 5 massages in 4 days – take 2 boys for 4 hand massage. I liked that but today I settled on 1on1 treatment. My guy was handsome but massage was so, so , perhaps he was afraid he will crush me or something so treaded lightly . Too long nails were bit annoying so I knew tomorrow it will be somebody else and even eyed candidate, telling all and sundry it will be different guy every day to save face and told candidate ‘ tomorrow you ‘ extracting nice smile. Little I know why he was smiling but that revelation will come soon. Clearly I was undermassaged so still in the soi pulled smartphone and on Grindr or Romeo I found enticing , manly , muscular guy offering massage in the room, asked him to be in Viangbua reception at 9pm. And leisurely walk to hotel to arrive as planned. There was some guy in the reception waiting for somebody and I had feeling it was me he is waiting for so I bravely asked to receive confirmation. Muscular with traces of handsomeness, but quite feminine and 5 years much older than in apps picture. Not quite fraud but somewhat misleading but that is included in risk of using apps I thought so resigned to my fate and invited him upstairs. Nothing to write home , after undressing still bit feminine of the same age, massage good and proper , better that one I had in Classic but it was clear he is looking for speedy end. Normally it would upset me but considering I was not as impressed with his looks and mannerism as I was when checking him on apps I considered it a blessing that he is not keen on lingering. 1500 was overpaid but that is what I agreed to, hoping for slower massage with manly hunk getting fast by girly one. My first night in Chiang Mai was lonely one but treat nevertheless as I could sleep with open windows , rare treat in Thailand. Hoping for better tomorrow I slept very well ending my day 9. Tapae gate and Classic House discreet entrance Boy69, starbum, spoon and 11 others 13 1 Quote
thaiophilus Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, vinapu said: I learned that lesson from my friend who years ago skipped on Uffizi Galleria in Florence because of price of admission. Then life came and it took her 30 years before she was able to visit Florence again determined to go there no matter of price. She did not because some issues and place was closed, fortunately just for a day. Third attempt was successful but she admitted she lived 30 years with kind of guilt she was so cheap. Yes. Since switching from employed-and-saving mode to retired-and-spending, when contemplating something expensive but affordable I often find I have to say to myself "can you really not afford it?" with an incredulous inflection. (Precise choice of words, word order and intonation are important here; if your first language is not British English you may not get the exact sense.) vinapu, PeterRS, CurtisD and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 6, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 6, 2022 Day 10 Not only I slept well but also had T in my dreams ( dry, relax ) , I must be missing him I guess so time to get serious to find consolator thought I at breakfast. When in Chiang Mai visit to Doi Suthep , temple up the mountain visible from every corner of city, including my window at Viangbua Mansion is a must. Easiest and most economical way to get there is by baht bus. Those going up the mountain have dedicated stop outside the moat , opposite Chang Puak gate, right in front of 7/11. Fare is 60 baht one way , glitch is baht bus will go when full. And now we have covid and resulting dearth of tourists so I decided to speed things up by asking how much it will be to rent whole vehicle for a trip there and back including waiting. 500 baht seemed reasonable so I agreed immediately , bought some drinks at 7/11 and up the hill we went. Even now it was visible that place is popular as parking was quite full. I conquered 300 or so steps leading to the temple quite fast and find the place worth of accolades I heard about that. Air was much fresher there too , specially that it was still early. View of city down the mountain was worth the trip itself. I spent good 2 hours wandering around, then had a 50 baht lunch in one of stalls there, wandered around souvenir stalls and almost bought the shirt but unfortunately they did not have my size so I consoled myself with obligatory t-shirt and fridge magnet and down we went. Rest of day I spent wandering around old city with it zillion of temples , laboriously I went inside every one I passed by. I found my next hotel I will be moving to tomorrow as well as Sanctuary Spa I intend to visit some day as well. Very touristy day but when it started darkening I walked again to Classic House for an intended massage with guy I called ‘ candidate “ yesterday but from now on that historical figure will be called S . Why historical it will be explained in a day or two. Massage and guy itself were much more impressive than last night’s so I investigated about Long Time option, accepted immediately and quite modest tip of 2000 was asked for a privilege. I must say I liked S from minute 1, both smile and build were enamoring and massage very well conducted. As a bonus he had motorsai so we went for dinner and subsequently to hotel in style. In case somebody is curious what I had for a dinner answer is chicken with cashew nuts, very well done. Luxuriating in my Executive Suite we had a chat , beer and it did not take long before heat of the night lead us to the bed where we, or at least me had a very rewarding night crowning day 10 of my trip. few impressions from Doi Suthep below, airport visible on the right of last pics Midguy1, spoon, reader and 12 others 15 Quote
PeterRS Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Gaybutton said: To me it's very simple - if you don't mind paying the price, have a good time. If you do mind, then don't go. Very sensible. splinter1949 and vinapu 2 Quote
PeterRS Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Great photos of Doi Suthep. Thanks @vinapu vinapu 1 Quote
a-447 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 I'm totally devastated to read that Adams Apple is gone. I've had so many wonderful nights there and have bedded so many of their super-hung masculine Shan studs. So hard, so long, so thick! And so willing to please! But I'm very happy to hear Classic is still going. They always had a large selection of different types of guys. The only thing you had to be careful about was "mooks" - those pearls the guys put under the skin of their cocks - and the dreaded silicone. Quote
vinapu Posted January 6, 2022 Author Posted January 6, 2022 51 minutes ago, a-447 said: I'm totally devastated to read that Adams Apple is gone. I've had so many wonderful nights there and have bedded so many of their super-hung masculine Shan studs. So hard, so long, so thick! And so willing to please! But I'm very happy to hear Classic is still going. They always had a large selection of different types of guys. The only thing you had to be careful about was "mooks" - those pearls the guys put under the skin of their cocks - and the dreaded silicone. Instead being devastated think an bout new opportunities. What is gone is gone although in better times mat be resurrected. Adams Apple though seems to be gone for good as even premises are for sale / rent , I don't remember exactly. As for Classic and mooks I may have good news for many, I saw my share of silicon and mook deformed cocks on otherwise great guys this trip but none of them in Chiang Mai and I sampled no less than 5 guys from Classic in those fabulous 4 days there. All five were of good size and well shaped. I agree that selection at Classic was great , it was a reason of my monodiet there in CM, bar one side trip to Sanctuary, also of best cock quality splinter1949 and reader 2 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 6, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 6, 2022 Day 11 We had breakfast together, then I packed my meagre possessions and taking advantage of my newest friend’s motorsai we went to my new digs – impressively named and even more impressively looking Phor Liang Meun Terracotta Arts Hotel in small alley 1 block from Chiang Mai gate. In normal times I likely would be to stingy to rent room there but covid times are depressing hotel prices exponentially so even such beauty and luxury become affordable at 1200 , breakfast included. Since after last night there was no doubt that S will be my companion for next 2 I checked him in and he got his own door card as there was no way I let him to sleep at home even if he is married with a child. Specially with such modest tip expectations, right? palatial Phor Liang Meun terracotta Arts Hotel, lobby and a room When we settled in he suggested that we visit electronic shop as he wanted to check some new phone model so we went , remember WE have a vehicle. Phone in question had price tag of 13000 but now was on promotion for 12000. I was even asked if I like it, how thoughtful. But no, at no time suggestion was made I should chip in because as Ecclesiast says it is time for everything , for laughter and cry , for sowing and harvest and so on. Then we parted ways string in knowledge that I will come to Classic for massage with somebody else but take him home afterwards. I continued with my tourist program, visiting temple after temple and when I got too spiritual I decided to bring myself to the level by going to Sanctuary Spa, not far from my hotel, easy to find as it’s facing moat close to SuanPrung gate. Entry is bit forested with ample greenery. It was only one guy on duty, others could be called in but no need since guy was handsome, tall , muscular and bulgy. I always say all we need is 1 bar and 1 guy in it so decided to try my wisdom. Fee was 1000 baht for 1.5 hr session, min tip the same and off we went. Both massage and afters were outstanding , truly were so tip was increased to 1500 and we parted ways both smiling. If I was not engaged with S , there was another candidate. But I like S. and after all that sightseeing I kind of miss him so slowly but surely I walked again to Classic where S din not even bother to present himself as it was known that today is somebody else’s turn. Mamasan reminded me that 5 massages are getting 6th free and since tomorrow is my last day he suggests 4 hands. Today it was B, the body builder. That was pleasure to extend that I asked him to come to my hotel during day tomorrow handing him over hotel’s business card and my Line. S was waiting in the wings but when we were done he confidently emerged and soon after motorsaied me to a dinner. During which suggestion , mind you, just suggestion was made we can go to the mall to do some shopping. Not that I need to buy anything but obviously he did so I just tagged along. We had a good luck as some Adidas shoes were on sale and so were jeans but of course nothing stopped US from buying 2 pairs of shoes , jeans shorts and jacked . WE bought , I paid but I kind of had fun witnessing how I’m manipulated into opening my heart and wallet . Even now recalling it I smile. Truth is all those good were good value for quite a modest price and I thought in view of night past and future, worth the expense. Now we know what low LT tip means, LOL. There was pressing need for a belt for another 1200 but despite shining eyes, my short ‘no’ did the trick and pressure eased down. In the room all goodies were arrested and I told him he will get them on day of my departure as I don’t want him to poke them into eyes of his friends in Classic as long as I’m here. He got the concept. Before you call me old fool etc let me tell you that now my fun started and I would be ungrateful asshole if I did not state that I was greatly rewarded for my troubles all night long, it’s why I smile. Even skillful suggestion I will buy him that phone tomorrow did not spoil my fun. I think this is what happens when guy makes sure you like him. So my day 11 , busy and expensive turned still to be memorable and full filled , fuck the money. GWMinUS, reader, 10tazione and 17 others 20 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 6, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 6, 2022 for temple lovers some samples of what Chiang Mai has to offer TMax, Midguy1, VancBCMan and 5 others 5 3 Quote
Boy69 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 23 hours ago, vinapu said: Few steps and big disappointment as Adams Apple is permanently closed with ‘ for rent ‘sign. What one can do ? Adam's Apple is closed for some time ago I am surprised you didn't know that even before the Covid 19 business were very slow ot past its glory day many years ago due lack of gay tourists the whole gay secen in Chiang Mai faded . T 13 hours ago, vinapu said: 500 baht seemed reasonable so I agreed immediately , bought some drinks at 7/11 and up the hill we went. You did the right choice 500 Baht including two hours waiting and return is very reasonable rate , For me Doi Suthep is one of the most amazing places I ever saw . vinapu and Ryanqqq 1 1 Quote
vinapu Posted January 6, 2022 Author Posted January 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Boy69 said: Adam's Apple is closed for some time ago I am surprised you didn't know that even before the Covid 19 business were very slow ot past its glory day many years ago due lack of gay tourists the whole gay secen in Chiang Mai faded . I did not know indeed, perhaps because I always more focus on what's opened , not what is closed , including my own wallet. Even faded gay scene in Chiang Mai worked for me very well and chances are city will be included in my circuit in future trips. I repeat my mantra for 27th time, all we need is one bar and one suitable boy in it. BL8gPt 1 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 7, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 7, 2022 Day 12 Such is the secret of well executed night that at breakfast question ‘will you buy me a new phone ? ‘ could be matter of factly rephrased “will you buy me that 12000 phone today ?’ which allowed me to counter propose ‘ no , that for 8000 only”. See how easy it is, LOL. So again off we went to that store where I was treated with spectacle of salesman dancing around S , extolling virtues of 12000 model and me faking an interest in 4500 model of the same make (Vivo ). All that in vain as I stood my ground at 8000 and was intended to indeed. Then all of the sudden 10000 model become attractive but I had my answer ready although requiring going to the quiet corner where I whispered “ you sleep with me tonight for free and I buy you that 10000 one or sleep for free and give me back 2000 I gave you this morning and we have 12000 one.” That was brilliant as it’s always very hard to part with money so WE settled on the first offer, 10000 and tip free night. Now you know why I called S historical figure – he made that old fool Vinapu joining long line of farangs buying their guy a phone. Such was his charm that I still don’t regret it. Both happy we returned to hotel where phone was arrested till tomorrow morning, we had some steamy moments as celebration of new acquisition and at noonish he went home and I went to continue my walks around old city mindful of fact that at 2 B, the body builder is scheduled to come. Arrived on time indeed. Such a body can’t be wasted as masseur so I suggested we change roles, he will become sandbag like me and I will massage him. I did very good job and tipped him well too. Before we started he modestly show me on his phone internet offer of some dreamt about shoes for just only 650. Yes , he got it too . I’m on shopping spree today it seems but that the secret of good mood. Exhausted after all that opening and closing wallet and massaging such substantial hunk I decided to have a rest in form of visiting Chiang Mai railway station. Took songtaew there for 60 baht as it’s quite far from old city. New and shiny train to Bangkok was ready to depart in few minutes, always enchanting moment for me , railway man at heart my whole life. No hunk is able to distract me from counting carriages of passing train, no matter how manly and muscly he would be. At 6 p.m. on the dot national anthem was played and right after train started rolling toward Bangkok 12.5 hrs. away. Not too many passengers, presumably more will join on the way but 1st class seemed to be filled by farangs. Not exactly cheap as lower berth in 1 st class costs 1600 odd baht it seems romance of rail travel still has hold on many not to mention savings on night at hotel. Perhaps I should try that one day at least one way. Leisurely walk to Classic for last massage there this trip. As mamasan suggested time to fork 1000 for 4 hands massage. From massage point of view it doesn’t make much sense , probably 2 session in row with one guy would make more of it because 4 hands requires not only massage skills but great degree of coordination between boys. You may feel strange if on is massaging your left shoulder while other takes care about right calf. But for fun and that was my intention, 4 hands can’t be beaten as long as very important condition is met : boys must be comfortable with each other. Common mistake is to force one guy on another which may not work due to shyness, friendship, blood relation or guys simply not being fond of each other. Cure for that is simple: chose one guy and let him bother with choosing second one. Chances are he will be good match. You may warn that 2nd guy still needs to be approved by you and if you have specific requirements you need to tell up front. Since it was my 4th time there and no doubt guys are updating themselves about clients I did not make much fuss, chose one and left him with task of getting helper of his choice. Fun intended , fun achieved. Massage was quite ok with one tasked with above the waist and other one with the lower carcass, it was how they chose to work. After a while I started being active and we had good , laughter filled time indeed. 1500 a head tipped, well received. Then S and I jumped on his motorsai heading for his friends restaurant. Too bad I’m leaving as friend was quite handsome boss and if I was longer would investigate option of getting my hands on him. S was visibly eager to retrieve his treasures arrested in my room but to his credit while night was more quiet than previous two he kept his side of bargain to successfully finalize my day 12 reader, llz, traveller123 and 15 others 18 Quote
Popular Post Boy69 Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2022 7 hours ago, vinapu said: That was brilliant as it’s always very hard to part with money so WE settled on the first offer, 10000 and tip free night. Now you know why I called S historical figure – he made that old fool Vinapu joining long line of farangs buying their guy a phone. Such was his charm that I still don’t regret it. If you liked the boy and you did have great time together I don't see any wrong here by buying him a phone my moto in life it's better to be generous and kind then cheap Cahrlie. I am doing only long term with a boy because I like the illusion of "boyfriend" companion besides the fee agreed I don't mind from time to time to buy the boy a gift such a perfume ,shoes , clothes atc. as he wishes it's a part of the adventure with him and if both sides are statisfied and happy I never regret doing that. Londoner, Ryanqqq, a-447 and 2 others 5 Quote
vinapu Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Boy69 said: If you liked the boy and you did have great time together I don't see any wrong here by buying him a phone my moto in life it's better to be generous and kind then cheap Cahrlie. I am doing only long term with a boy because I like the illusion of "boyfriend" companion besides the fee agreed I don't mind from time to time to buy the boy a gift such a perfume ,shoes , clothes atc. as he wishes it's a part of the adventure with him and if both sides are statisfied and happy I never regret doing that. this is exactly how I treated whole phone debacle - part of adventure. He was particularly good in creating 'boyfriend ' illusion without pretending it's real thing so got rewarded for his skills I guess. Although generally I believe more in monetary compensation than material gifts he skillfully created situation when I wanted to see him happy for receiving those goods. vaughn, Boy69, Ryanqqq and 1 other 4 Quote
Boy69 Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 Let's don't forget that for us 10k Baht is not small amount but it's not something that would brake our bank account but for average Thai boy it's equal to one month average salary in Thailand it's a substantial amount for him and if you didn't buy him that phone it will probably takes for him many months of savings before he could afford himself buying it. Ryanqqq and Londoner 2 Quote
vinapu Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 46 minutes ago, Boy69 said: Let's don't forget that for us 10k Baht is not small amount but it's not something that would brake our bank account but for average Thai boy it's equal to one month average salary in Thailand it's a substantial amount for him and if you didn't buy him that phone it will probably takes for him many months of savings before he could afford himself buying it. he had a working phone and just took an opportunity to upgrade, lets put it this way , I had fun buying it and witnessing whole spectacle to coerce me to do it, that's all Londoner, vaughn and Ryanqqq 3 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 7, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 7, 2022 Day 13 S was not rushing in the morning , patiently accompanied me to a breakfast and finally last embraces, kiss , pat on the bum and he was gone , phone and other treasures secured in his bag. Nothing emotional and I liked it like that, we both did our part and parted our ways happy. Question how to get to the airport was solved surprisingly easy, as soon as I stepped outside hotel’s gate songtaew stopped delivering some guest and his daughter, asked 50 baht to the airport and soon I was there, well before intended time but day was pleasant so I could wait basking in the sun. S sent me line saying that I forgot to tip him for last night, yeah, right , nice try answered I, remember our agreement from previous morning and answer of sticker with blinking eye came right away so we knew it was just a joke. Flight to BKK was uneventful and visibility was good, we circled city and landed from sea side , attached below is picture of Chao Praya joining the sea taken from approach. My hotel this time was Furama Sathorn close to Chong Nonsi BTS, bit hidden in the side soi and again I abused covid situation of depressed prices by splurging on Executive Suite. 1300 baht with breakfast for 2 , perhaps 1/3 of normal price for such a room. Separate living room with kitchenette , bedroom , balcony and full washroom with shower and tube accessible from both living room and bedroom, in short almost like an appartment. Bell boy face looked somewhat familiar and he also looked at me with some interest, later on after intensive brain work I realized that I saw him working at Moonlight few years ago, fact he confirmed when I discretely asked. Impressive part is we never met but still both managed to remember our faces. After I settled I took motorsai to soi Pluk Chit but no, not to see T at Sabaidee but to meet ChristianPFC after long 2 years absence. We had a lot to catch on so I had some soup in one of stalls and we moved to my room to continue. After catching with what’s new and old and admiring new unusual denominated 30 000 riel commemorative hybrid ( paper with transparent plastic window ) note he brought for me from Cambodia we went to survey massage places at Silom Plaza . Few acceptable guys at Best Massage at ground floor , we also went up to Arena but at that time , past 8 p.m. it was already closed. Then to Hot Male just recently opened. One of guys on the scene was Ah-poo, guy I spot on apps and was exchanging messages last week on Line , one who used ‘boy services” description instead of more crude money boy. We couldn’t align our timing then but now was a chance. I liked his picture and even more original on the scene so I called him over, showed on my smartphone our conversations which he easily recalled, 500 off fee and soon we were marching to the hotel where nobody blinked an eye seeing us. Great Cambodian night crowning day 13. TMax, JackR, CurtisD and 14 others 17 Quote
JackR Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 Great report. It sounds like you're having a wonderful trip. I wish I was there! vinapu 1 Quote