a-447 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 44 minutes ago, 10tazione said: ..and golden badge for stimulating thai economy! And the forum members' members! vinapu 1 Quote
pong2 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 Oh, I am just catching up, great read, so nice of you to keep us so well informed! And the remembrances by those pictures too.......... Just to add a tiny off-the-side remark: train to Kan-the fare for Thai is 0 bt (yes, you read that), as its a normal all-stops train. The normal SRT fare should be/3d cl, the only class there is=hard wooden seats, 28 bt (a little over 40 to the end at ´waterfall´, as its just over 100 KM. Not raised since this century. BUT due to popularity with farang-and all guidebooks, it was raised to 100 bt-any distance, for whiteys. Malays usually can get the normal Thai fare. The 0 bt is now restricted to poor Thai with their blue card-as are all other allstops trains, but other Thai wont take that train for convenience-buses go ev 10/15 mins. 3 bt was never AFAIK a normal fare. ChMai was for me also on very first trip-again way before 2000-at that time there was a fledging citybussystem, price 2 bt. Last time I was there there was a new govmt sponsored citybus-2 lines I think, with shiny new chinese AC minibuses, for 20/30 bt, as a great innovation running to airprot. I guess it has been suspended since. Your remarks about still good business there will probably indicate it has enough local clients to survive on. JEY was for me also a big favorite and its sad to read they moved to lesser premises and have much fewer guys as before. But good for the note, so come prepared whenever I get the chance to back to BKK without a lot of fuss. JEY is (was?) also the guy who ran it-he has worked there a really very long time ago and he discarded the VNese after too many complaints and gives new guys a thorough training in skills. Had 2 guys with same name there a few yrs apart-turned out it was younger brother introduced to there when phee-chai (=older brother) stopped working and got married. Nong chai (=younger brother) was heavily tattooed. Once had a southern Thai muslim guy who was utterly surprised and suddenly liked me 3x times more as we discovered we could communicate in bahasa=near equal to their local dialect. His thai was less as perfect. vinapu and Ryanqqq 2 Quote
vinapu Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Boy69 said: You are right we must protect privacy of the boys ,I don't think the boys will be happy to see their pictures all over this thread , Moreover it's not others business to know who we met in private. I agree but my reason is bit different. I don't want to do to others what I wouldn't appreciate if done to myself. Few years ago I recommended to one of our members masseur from BBB Inn. As reward boy in question showed him pictures of some of his customers including me. None of those were compromising ( mine was taken on stairs fully dressed ) but still ... But main reason I don't take a pictures is more prosaic - I'm just to lazy for that and when with a guy , thinking about pictures is least of my priorities. Lucky 1 Quote
vinapu Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Travellerdave said: Nice to hear that Zing is open and that you found it confortable. I used to like the useful size pool where I often relaxed with my boyfriends du jour. Interesting that you took the airport bus to Jomtien where the terminus is close to the Complex and the Zing hotel. I remember pulling my bag along the uneven pavement from the bus after the long 24 hour journey from home but happy to have arrived. For me the bus is good and a lot safer than in the high speed taxis weaving about in the traffic. It was my 4th or 5th time there at Zing and I consider it extremely good value place. Not fancy but comfortable and discreet and amazingly quiet considering it's busy location. This trip it had distinction of being only hotel out of I guess 12 I was staying which checked my vaccination status and collected ID from my visiting guest (at day time, but not at night where one by passes reception anyways ) but those exception are hardly problem. Airport bus is great as means to get to and from Bangkok, not only airport and I keep repeating it as few times I was told that idea of using it just to get to Bangkok proper never crossed people's mind , so entrenched is allure of ' airport ' bus they we tend not to think outside the box, in this case Swampy. The same in Bangkok where one can use Chiang Mai train to get to DonMuang airport from Hualampong ( before it closes for good ) BL8gPt 1 Quote
vinapu Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Boy69 said: What is striking me again and again is how good memory Thai people have they can remember exactly who you are and what you did things that I forgot long time ago, the most shocking after couple of years returning to one of the restaurants at Pattaya beach the lady there recognised me and remember exactly what I like to order for breakfast.realy amazing. I think it'd not unique to Thais, it's general skill of people used to work with many others , mostly in service sector but also doctors , teachers etc. At work I usually see clients once a year and sometimes when they show up I'm surprised myself how much I remember about them including lady who suspects her dog is a gay. Quote
vinapu Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 10 hours ago, ggobkk said: I think it is appropriate after so many daily reports to pause, relish Vinapu's ability to put us in the heart of things, and be grateful for his reminding us that what he was enjoying is exactly what we remember and look forward to soon. Thanks. PS Nice to know you joined the ranks for farangs who are supportive shoppers and phone buyers. thank you for undeserved praise, I'm just trying to write prescription for fun filled vacation. As for phone and general spending I came with plan to be bit more generous and supportive than usual understanding how hard times are for guys and working class population and since financially covid time was good to me only thing I could do was to share spoils with those who deserved it. BL8gPt, Boy69 and reader 3 Quote
vinapu Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 8 hours ago, khaolakguy said: That must be a metaphorical London, as the one I am in today is bright and sunny not a literal cloud in the sky! Cold though! the same here, makes me write faster though Quote
vinapu Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 5 hours ago, 10tazione said: Vinapu you deserve platinum trophy for your reports and golden badge for stimulating thai economy! I rather put my hands on meaty, straight like arrow 20 cm trophy but in absence of it can live with platinum too. stijntje and Lonnie 1 1 Quote
vinapu Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 4 hours ago, pong2 said: JEY was for me also a big favorite and its sad to read they moved to lesser premises and have much fewer guys as before. Jey Spa has many guys listed but not to many on premises , perhaps due to covid restrictions . Even mamasan suggested to book an appointment but I was happy with guy I got and easily can have repeat with him. It's just 10 minutes walk from nearest BTS Phnom Prong Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 9, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 9, 2022 Day 17 In the morning well deserved breakfast at hotel, German style cold cuts plate for 190. Surprisingly N opted for the same. I told him his presence next night is required, thank you very much but stay tuned on the Line as it may be well past midnight when I return to the hotel . I did not plan anything but since BBB yesterday looked promising I was preparing ground just in case I will stay in Pattaya longer tonight. When he went to his gym I fired up Agoda and for the same reason I booked cheap 500 baht room in Nature Beach Hotel in soi 11. As I mentioned earlier , after 2 weeks I kind of miss food I normally digest so went to supermarket near Jomtien airport bus station and stocked on rye bread and cottage cheese. At 2 pm Art arrived as agreed yesterday for a massage and he is so skilled even if only self taught that he managed to put me to sleep mid-day !!! Than I realized that he was my only encounter this trip with guy engaged in previous trips. Yes , Soviet was repeat too but I don’t count him as previous encounter was completely forgotten by both of us and I realized only after we met that it’s not our first time. After he left, previously asked to repeat the feast tomorrow at the same time I went to Jurgens in View Talay 1 for my fil of schnitzel and potatos. Not as good as at Alt Heidelberg or Berliner Café but still closely resembling on original. 360 with beer. Well filled up I went to Walking Street and marched whole length from Bali Hai pier . not that was much to see as almost all bars were closed but here and there were traces of life returning Sad truth is that still on once such busy boisterous street only one business survived intact and that is 7/11. Not quite family destination already and likely it never happen but for a moment that street is dead indeed as adult entertainment destination. In Panorama I met with aussie_ again and we talked waiting for the show. In meantime from time to time I indulged in my newest hobby i.e. combing through Grindr and I noticed that one of guys there may be one sitting in front of BBB. Since he looked attractive I fired him message on Grindr ‘are you guy in black t-shirt with big X on the back ? ‘. That got him interested , he started looking around so I waved at him. We agreed to solve once and for all climate crisis after the show. In spirit of collaboration bars in Boyzown now are combining efforts to put that outside show together and first number with few very muscular guys was music to my ears. Around 10 pm aussie_ left Panorama and shortly after I took my newest friend to that room , smartly booked in the ,morning. Very basic but with all expected conveniences, full washroom , working safety box and A/C, for 500 one can’t expect more than that even in those trying times. Great body and above standard performance by my newest friend would made it memorable evening but unfortunately he made it pretty clear that he is interested in finishing business as soon as possible not knowing that in my eyes it’s cardinal sin. As soon as it was hinted I kind of fast lost interest mindful that well tried N is waiting for me anyways, chalked off agreed 1500 tip as a loss , Ok, not quite due to attributes mentioned above but money not well spent . I even generously offered to give him a lift to Wat Chai in taxi I hailed on the Beach Rd but I was grinding my teeth quietly. As Christian PFC says, no repeat. Lined N to come to hotel as I’ on my way and at 12.30 am we started another steamy and stormy sleepover. THAT was well spent money no doubt and subsequent night was secured before we even hit the sheets. Despite slight hick up with Grindr guy , it was great busy day with three encounters even if that day 17 ended with pretty sleepless night. khaolakguy, daydreamer, Lonnie and 13 others 16 Quote
Boy69 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, vinapu said: Despite slight hick up with Grindr guy , it was great busy day with three encounters even if that day 17 ended with pretty sleepless night. OMG three encounters in one day I barely can manage one a day . khaolakguy 1 Quote
spoon Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Boy69 said: OMG three encounters in one day I barely can manage one a day . Im always amazed at Vinapu's virility. Quote
vinapu Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Boy69 said: OMG three encounters in one day I barely can manage one a day . roll your sleeves Quote
vinapu Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, spoon said: I'm always amazed at Vinapu's virility. I simply live too far from Thailand to afford wasting time while there , LOL Quote
a-447 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 8 hours ago, vinapu said: ..including lady who suspects her dog is a gay. Does she also own a poofy cat? Quote
vinapu Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, a-447 said: Does she also own a poofy cat? no idea, I only listen , asking professional questions only Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 10, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 10, 2022 Day 18 Today we went for breakfast to French place in the corner. Then N went to his gym and I took motorsai to Pratamnak Hill to see Big Buddha and admiral. Last time I was there it was crowded , this time with even better weather at Big Buddha were probably more stray dogs than pilgrims and tourists combined. But it added to the charm of place, quiet , nice breeze and good views few pictures to warm your hearts longing for Pattaya Going back I took motorsai to the Jomtien bus station and bought ticket to BKK for tomorrow. At 2 , like yesterday Art arrived for massage and again managed to put me to sleep during massage without singing lullabies. There’s something soothing in his stokes. Who knows when we will have another chance ? In the afternoon Gaybutton , his board friend R and me had another dinner together , this time we settled forum on Mexican which I’m not big fan of and I’m glad I went along because my dish, some chicken salad in big tortilla was tasty and serving was big, I did not even manage to eat it all. I updated them on my trip goings , we discussed covid and current Pattaya situation , great interesting afternoon , thank you gentlemen both for inviting me again. At one time today I got message from aussie_ who after left Panorama last night went to Sunee , to Nice Boys and had great time there. So when I meet z909 at Jomtien we decided to pay a visit in that bar.. Before stepping in we did grand tour of the plaza only to see shops boarded and bars closed including Winners. There were few boys at Nice Boys , mostly eating and drinking in the corners , few pretending to rotate on the stage were deep in their smartphones and even if few looked quite attractive it was impossible to even make an eye contact. Nobody seemed to pay any attention to us nor to few other customers who popped in from time to time . Certainly it was my first in any Thai bar ever to feel completely ignored , even when we wanted a check it required loud scream “can we get a check please” because earlier signals were completely ignored. No idea what trick aussie _used yesterday to have good time , what we got I’d call none time. It was just like watching paint dry even if there were at least 3 guys I’d gladly invite to sit, have a drink and collect some tip for a feel. Most attractive did best job of hiding behind the beam with his back to us. I was not even upset when we left, just amazed of what happened. Is not that I’m crossing that bar off my list and certainly will visit it again in future if only to see if it can go even lower. It was just strange. Disappointed and in a sense disgusted we went to Boyztown counting on consolation and indeed it was full of life with show already going on in the soi and perhaps as many as 100 spectators. Mamasan Aek greeted us with a smile. My last night off spotted me as well and instantly sent me a message ‘ why you are not coming to drink with me?” to which I answered ‘ don’t you see I’m with boyfriend ?”. That’s an advantage of visiting bars with friend as always it can be claimed we are with boyfriend. Nobody will believe but everybody will get signal ‘ leave me alone”. In front of me I spotted sitting very handsome guy and asked Aek if he is BBB boy, he was indeed so I asked him to invite guy for a drink . Too bad I promised N night together and am leaving tomorrow as if was fine specimen definitely worth an off. All I got tonight was handholding session in the open but definitely I will be looking for him in a future. Rewarded him 100 baht for his time and 200 for good looks, drink outside was 100 and boy drink 150. I liked spirit of cooperation of bars in the soi banding together trying to revive Boyztown and leaving competition for later. After the show I parted my ways with z909 , shook hands good bye as we will not meet this trip again and took motorsai to the Zing where N sitting in front of his shop, now closed for a day , spotted me in a distance and rushed toward me for out last night and his last tip this trip. This was a reason our time tonight was less steamy but much, much more clingy. 10tazione, Ryanqqq, daydreamer and 14 others 17 Quote
Boy69 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, vinapu said: There were few boys at Nice Boys , mostly eating and drinking in the corners , few pretending to rotate on the stage were deep in their smartphones and even if few looked quite attractive it was impossible to even make an eye contact. Nobody seemed to pay any attention to us nor to few other customers who popped in from time to time . Certainly it was my first in any Thai bar ever to feel completely ignored , even when we wanted a check it required loud scream “can we get a check please” because earlier signals were completely ignored. You are not the first one with bad experience at Nice(?) Boys . I really don't understand the business model of this bar most of the boys are freelance there doing whatever they want except trying to attract client for their service so why they bother to come is beyond me, bad service from the staff is not appealing either , many comments of whom off boys from this bar got very bad service boys who want to take as much tip from you and giving the minimum in return and what they really want is to get away as fast as they can from your room . it's a miracle that the bar is still existing. Quote
a-447 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 I think the guys turn up each night to be with each other, not with farang. They are there to hang out with their friends and enjoy each other's company. They obviously don't need the money. Then again, they can survive on a lot less money than we can. I'm just surprised the management allows such behaviour. Presumably they are still paying rent and need to at least cover costs. Maybe it's one of those places which the owner runs as a hobby and is not worried about making money. Like Natureboys and Golden Cock in Bangkok. As the boys are all straight it comes as no surprise that they want to get the deed over asap. Has anyone complained to the manager or owner? Boy69 1 Quote
Guest Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, a-447 said: Has anyone complained to the manager or owner? Rather than complain, I'm simply not going in Nice Boys again for the duration of this trip. It's never been my favourite gogo bar anyway. Quite a few people arrived and left quickly whilst we were in there, so I doubt they were impressed either. Quote
vinapu Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 11 hours ago, Boy69 said: You are not the first one with bad experience at Nice(?) Boys Perhaps but for me it was and probably still is the best bar in Sunee. I had good time there quite a few times before so I'm not chalking them off believing in power of redemption. Yes experience this trip was very bad but reason could be that shortly after re-opening guys were rather happy with their own company and clearly not interested in ours. Since aussie_ had good time there night before and I trust his opinion and judgement for years , what happened to us could be just an aberration , bad luck but not main stream event. I hope I'm right. 3 hours ago, z909 said: Rather than complain, I'm simply not going in Nice Boys again for the duration of this trip. give them a try toward the end and see if there's any improvement as one statistic sample is not basis for hypothesis even if our experience there was bad indeed. 3 hours ago, a-447 said: I think the guys turn up each night to be with each other, not with farang. .......................... I'm just surprised the management allows such behaviour. ............................. As the boys are all straight it comes as no surprise that they want to get the deed over asap. you may be right on first account although it's not my previous experience. ............. management was present and did not give a f...k about our presence either so nobody was to complain , in fact loud scream was necessary to signalize we want to pay our dues. .............. not so sure about straight guys rushing things. If you read my recent travel report S , telephone guy from ChiangMai, T, my favorite masseur this trip, Myanmarese from HotMale, one more guy, Art , masseur from BBB, Moonlight model not mentioned yet, all straights with wifes /girlfriends and some with children , mostly l engaged more than once by me this trip , none of them made any hint he is done and wants to go other than cases when time was agreed upon in advance for valid reason (returning to girl or going to work ). Give me straight guy and day or rather night. BL8gPt and Ruthrieston 2 Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted January 10, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 10, 2022 Day 19 This time breakfast in Zing, last embrace and good bye N, you were great guy. Nothing sentimental , all professional , I had money, he had time , body and skills and all that was good enough to have great time together. The same like with S in Chiang Mai. Job well done , guys move to next client and I did the same to next guys. I like that way and it’s what for I’m coming to Thailand. Bus to Swampy was only half full like suspension of Test and Go had immediate effect. I know it was perhaps just coincidence. Taking advantage of depressed hotel prices and Christams season I decided for next 4 nights to treat myself with digs in Crowne Plaza. Normally I don’t crave multi stars hotels as difference in price is much higher than difference in comfort but why not to boost ones ego for Christams by staying in 4500 room / I saw tariff on reception / for 60% of that price breakfast included if only to know where rich sleep when they travel. Location is very convenient , around the corner from Silom and Suriwong and view is guaranteed as rooms are starting on 25th floor. Trick is in order to get to the room one must use 2 sets of elevators, one available to all from ground to 23 rd floor where restaurant serving our breakfast as well as traditional afternoon tea with scones , 850 treat which I skipped trying to keep my waist lean and wallet full. From there is another set of smart , card operated elevators taking us to our rooms. Why smart ? if your room is on 25 floor you can press only ‘25’ button. With all that hoopla room was quite compact although comfortable and well furnished with expected utensils plus pack of 3 strawberry flavoured condoms in one of drawers. Whether it was left by previous occupant or was hotel provided I don’t know but I suspect the second. All those stars under the name oblige. It also signalized that hotel must be guest friendly and indeed it was as we learn soon. Washroom had those high tech Japanese toilets but it’s just too much , making complex relatively simple and well rehearsed thing so I did not test it but one of my guests did. here are some pictures for curious, inside dining area from above, room and call-of-nature computer, er. toilet Almost blinded by all that marbles and polished chrome I settled in and soon was marching to soi 4 where I was supposed to meet newscene, forum member present who took an advantage of Test and Go provisions , the same like me . We never met but now it’s easy to sent selfie to somebody’s Line so we recognized each other instantly. Since we were in soi 4 already we went to Jupiter. It was quite empty with few customers only, handsome but unsmiling guys made their parade, 2 best looking and 1 smiling got my customary 100 baht tip but we did not stay too long and moved to Dreamboys in patpong 2 just in time for the show including big you know what show. Mamasan was quite friendly , our mood was good so I spotted some well built performer and decided to invite him to try all those Crowne Plaza luxuries including breakfast with me, off fee 500 paid , LT tip 3000 agreed and off we went to world famous, 7 Michelin stars sporting for some dinner before we went to a room, undisturbed by reception but collecting few looks from other guest waiting for an elevator but this did not move us at all. Tob or Top , not sure of his nick, helped me with gusto to finish day 19 and welcome day 20. With my room being on 25th floor we did not even feel the need to bother with covering windows , debauchery with a view one can say. and here's the view GWMinUS, TotallyOz, BL8gPt and 11 others 13 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, vinapu said: not so sure about straight guys rushing things. If you read my recent travel report S , telephone guy from ChiangMai, T, my favorite masseur this trip, Myanmarese from HotMale, one more guy, Art , masseur from BBB, Moonlight model not mentioned yet, all straights with wifes /girlfriends and some with children , mostly l engaged more than once by me this trip , none of them made any hint he is done and wants to go other than cases when time was agreed upon in advance for valid reason (returning to girl or going to work ). Give me straight guy and day or rather night. We meant straight guys rushing things at Nice Boy bar and not as general statement too many bad reviews from members of this forum and other forums about this bar. I personally have rejection to be with straight guys I can't be with a boy that is not gay seems very odd experience for me to be with a boy that clearly prefer to be with women but if it works for you good for you . Quote
Boy69 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 4 hours ago, vinapu said: This time breakfast in Zing, last embrace and good bye N, you were great guy. Nothing sentimental , all professional , I had money, he had time , body and skills and all that was good enough to have great time together. The same like with S in Chiang Mai. Job well done , guys move to next client and I did the same to next guys. I like that way and it’s what for I’m coming to Thailand. In brief they fell in love with your wallet and you fell in love with their body 😄 4 hours ago, vinapu said: Taking advantage of depressed hotel prices and Christams season I decided for next 4 nights to treat myself with digs in Crowne Plaza. Normally I don’t crave multi stars hotels as difference in price is much higher than difference in comfort but why not to boost ones ego for Christams by staying in 4500 room / I saw tariff on reception / for 60% of that price breakfast included if only to know where rich sleep when they travel. Location is very convenient , around the corner from Silom and Suriwong and view is guaranteed as rooms are starting on 25th floor. Wow 2000 Baht a night Including breakfast at Crown Plaza is a great deal , Amazing hotel indeed. Great report ! Quote
vinapu Posted January 11, 2022 Author Posted January 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Boy69 said: .... seems very odd experience for me to be with a boy that clearly prefer to be with women but if it works for you good for you . it does, I have nothing against women, I just don't sleep with them. After all my mother was women and sister still is, praise the Lord , you know 6 hours ago, Boy69 said: In brief they fell in love with your wallet and you fell in love with their body 😄 Wow 2000 Baht a night Including breakfast at Crown Plaza is a great deal , Amazing hotel indeed. I don't think it was love, certainly they liked my tips and I liked them , not only their bodies. I was impressed with Crowne Plaza but from all Bangkok hotels I stay this trip I think I liked Furama Sathorn the most, biggest room , actually two , kitchenette and balcony so I could open window Quote
