Have moneyboys tried pivoting to online selling?

[macaroni21]

A month or two ago, I read an article about the business model of onlyfans.com. Nothing really new there, but apparently the lockdowns from Covid have accelerated its business many times. Purveyors of in-the-flesh pleasures pivoted to selling virtual interactions instead.

I am curious if Thai guys, many of whom must be badly out of work for months and months, have also tried to sell themselves virtually. I see no discussion anywhere about this (but then I haven't really looked hard) so my impression is that they have not. If so, is it for want of trying or might there be technical obstacles? 

Or do you think there's really no market for online interactions with Thai lads?

[Boy69]

It's illegal in Thailand , I heard some working girls in Pattaya who did try virtual online sex were arrested, fined and their equipment was confiscated. Apparently the Thai authorities are monitoring the web and trying to prevent it.

[reader]

A Chinese national and four Thais--three males and a transgender woman--were caught live streaming porn in Jomtien in early July.

The police raid was the subject of a post in the Pattaya forum.

From Pattaya Mail

https://www.pattayamail.com/news/porn-actors-caught-with-pants-down-in-pattaya-362597

[Guest]

One Laos guy I know who sadly had some breasts inserted was trying offering "camsex" via Grindr from Pasttaya.   I've no idea how successful this is.

 

Here's one who members might recognize doing online selling:  https://onlyfans.com/magicguitar

I've not idea what's on offer there and I've also got no evidence that he's ever worked as a money boy in the past.   However, if he's making money from that, some others might be tempted to try.

 

[PeterRS]

17 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

Or do you think there's really no market for online interactions with Thai lads?

With the 25-year old friend of a good friend of mine having died yesterday of covid19 and with the Delta variant now running amok and accounting for many more cases in much younger age groups than before, I wonder who is going to take their life in their hands by bedding a young Thai guy who has not yet been fully vaccinated. My understanding is that few in the 18 - 30 group in Thailand have been vaccinated yet. 

[macaroni21]

I've never really understood the attraction of online interactions. The most important aspect of any sexxy interaction is tactile and online absolutely doesnt give you that. Can't imagine paying money for that. Like buying a beautifully-styled car that has no engine under the hood.  What's the point? But maybe that's just me again, for I recognise that worldwide there is a market, maybe even a booming market... so I'm curious, if more and more of our previous hustlers moved online, how many of us would subscribe and/or pay?

I guess you might say in return, "it depends on what they do". Let's just say, they do whatever the punter asks such as making use of a dildo or bringing himself to a climax. Basically, porn.  Would you pay? (I would probably say to myself, "but there's so much free porn around".)

[macaroni21]

19 hours ago, Boy69 said:

It's illegal in Thailand , I heard some working girls in Pattaya who did try virtual online sex were arrested, fined and their equipment was confiscated. Apparently the Thai authorities are monitoring the web and trying to prevent it.

I don't know what went wrong in that instance, but I'm sure it's entirely possible to sell online just from the privacy of one's room. And if one is selling through a site like onlyfans.com, only subscribers would be able to see who you are. Can't imagine the Thai government conducting surveillance by subscribing to ("following") thousands of "performers" just to find out if they reveal too much of *shock/horror/blush* Thai tits, genitalia and buttholes.

[macaroni21]

3 hours ago, PeterRS said:

With the 25-year old friend of a good friend of mine having died yesterday of covid19 and with the Delta variant now running amok and accounting for many more cases in much younger age groups than before, I wonder who is going to take their life in their hands by bedding a young Thai guy who has not yet been fully vaccinated. My understanding is that few in the 18 - 30 group in Thailand have been vaccinated yet. 

PeterRS, I think we're not on the same wavelength. By "online interactions", I don't mean advertising on Grindr / Planet Romeo / Hornet, etc for meet-ups. I mean internet "sex" where the transaction is entirely remote. So the lad could be back in mama's house in Khon Kaen and the punter somewhere in Dumfries or Duisburg.

[PeterRS]

18 minutes ago, macaroni21 said:

PeterRS, I think we're not on the same wavelength. By "online interactions", I don't mean advertising on Grindr / Planet Romeo / Hornet, etc for meet-ups. I mean internet "sex" where the transaction is entirely remote. So the lad could be back in mama's house in Khon Kaen and the punter somewhere in Dumfries or Duisburg.

Thanks. Yes, I did misunderstand. I guess since I'm like you and personally don't like the idea of remote sex, I find it hard that others would. But when times are tough . . . 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, macaroni21 said:

I've never really understood the attraction of online interactions. The most important aspect of any sexxy interaction is tactile and online absolutely doesnt give you that. Can't imagine paying money for that.

I also don't see the appeal.  Once it's purely online, surely it's competing with "professionally" produced porn ?  

 

5 hours ago, PeterRS said:

With the 25-year old friend of a good friend of mine having died yesterday of covid19 and with the Delta variant now running amok and accounting for many more cases in much younger age groups than before. 

Sad to hear that.

However, the death of a 25 year old is very much the exception.   Also, the media will publicize such cases, which serves a useful purpose in persuading youngsters to get vaccinated.  

However, when it comes to decision making they should recognize that even with delta, the death rate amongst the young is very low.  There are other more frequent causes of death that youngsters seem to not worry about at all.   Most youngsters should not and will not spend their time worrying about covid.

[PeterRS]

1 hour ago, z909 said:

However, the death of a 25 year old is very much the exception.   Also, the media will publicize such cases, which serves a useful purpose in persuading youngsters to get vaccinated. 

I am not sure of the regulations but I thought vaccinations are not yet generally available for people under a certain age. I persuaded my friend to try and get vaccinated. Fortunately he has a friend who is a hospital nurse and she got him an appointment for the Sinopharm vaccine. But I assumed that was an exception.

[spoon]

I do one thai guy i know who has onlyfans, and several others thai guys are actively producing onlyfans contents and promoting it through their social media. So to answer the OP, yes, there is some that transition towards online platform.

As to why people like it, its basically porn. Voyeurism, ability to ask performer to do what u want etc. For me, i am tempted, especially if the boys are those i already know. It is an alternative to actually meeting them as we all know its not possible. Having said that, like u also mentioned, free porn are everywhere, so if u pay for subscription etc, its just another way to show your support to the performers.

 

 

[Guest]

One problem with online "entertainment" is that the platform can change the rules.   e.g OnlyFans banning porn.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58273914

I've never tried Only Fans, but I would have thought they could apply effective segregation of content.  On the other hand, perhaps they need to check all such content to ensure it's legal, which would be something of a complication.

[macaroni21]

The BBC article opens with these sentences: 
"The subscription site OnlyFans, known for its adult content, has announced it will block sexually explicit photos and videos from 1 October. People will still be able to post nude content on the site. But this will need to be consistent with OnlyFans' policies."

There is a very fine line (to the point of invisibility between sexually explicit (not allowed) and nude content (allowed?). I would have expected the reporter to query this before writing the story. As for its policies, I clicked through, only to be greeted with legalese, and am still none the wiser where the line is to be drawn.

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, macaroni21 said:

There is a very fine line (to the point of invisibility between sexually explicit (not allowed) and nude content (allowed?). I would have expected the reporter to query this before writing the story. As for its policies, I clicked through, only to be greeted with legalese, and am still none the wiser where the line is to be drawn.

The Guardian reporter did a little more research.   Findings include:

1  The company will continue to allow some posts containing nudity but “any content containing sexually-explicit conduct” will be banned

2 Payment processing companies increasingly control what material pornography sites are able to host. Last December, Visa and Mastercard briefly banned payments to websites owned by online pornography giant MindGeek, following reports it was hosting “revenge porn” uploaded without the consent of those involved. The financial businesses only backtracked when MindGeek deleted tens of millions of unverified videos from its sites such as PornHub.

3 OnlyFans has enabled tens of thousands of sex workers to earn substantial incomes in return for handing over 20% of their earnings to the company, with many creators saying it has given them financial freedom. Internal figures obtained by Axios suggest about 16,000 creators earn at least $50,000 (£36,000) annually from the site.

4 However, it has also faced growing political and regulatory scrutiny over its ability to remove illegal and exploitative material.

5 The company was founded in 2016 by the Essex-based Stokely family who continue to be the public faces of the business and continue to extract substantial sums from the company. However, corporate filings show that it is now entirely owned by US-based online pornography veteran Leonid Radvinsky.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/19/onlyfans-to-ban-adult-material-after-pressure-from-payment-processors

 

 

[Boy69]

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