France Starts A New Strickter Lockdown

[BiBottomBoy]

I'm never getting out of this, I swear.

[Lonnie]

2 hours ago, BiBottomBoy said:

I'm never getting out of this, I swear.

I'm so sorry to read France is back in lock down and for three weeks. Why do you think the vaccine rollout is going so badly? The few instances of my dealing with medical issues in France has left me with great respect for the French system. Is it Macron? The EU? Bureaucracy?

y?

[BiBottomBoy]

Macron built federal vaccination centers. The friend don't trust the federal government and refused to go to them.

What they should have done was given the vaccine to local doctors who the French do trust.

[PeterRS]

Living in South East Asia I remain mystified how this part of the world which is so close to China and depended to a huge degree on tourism from China has got off so lightly in the pandemic. As of yesterday Taiwan had had 1,030 cases and 10 deaths. Vietnam 2,803 cases and 35 deaths. Thailand 28,863 cases and 94 deaths.

I know that all three countries adopted preventative measures extremely quickly after the virus was discovered. Everyone here remembers the effects of SARS in 2003 and government medical departments were far better prepared for future virus infections. I believe test and tracing was also extremely good. The result is that internally Taiwan has never closed down. Schools, restaurants, coffee shops, bars etc. have never closed. The only requirement has been mask wearing from the outset and use of hand sanitiser. Even visiting central Vietnam in early March, despite the virtual collapse of tourism, I noted there were no restrictions on dining and entertainment. Even the old ladies selling street food were wearing masks.

Here in Thailand, there was a very strict one month lockdown in April. Since then, with a hiccup near the end of last year when a large cluster of cases was found in a fish market outside Bangkok and the reimposition of some restrictions, life has been more or less normal. Of course, the tourism industries have been hammered and economies suffered badly. But we look at what is happening in Europe and the Americas and wonder - how did we escape all that carnage and those continuing restrictions to daily life?

[BiBottomBoy]

you have  a population that is used to following the rules.

Here is France half the people don't even wear masks

[spoon]

Yes, preventative measure works if all follow the rules. Mandatory masks wearing, social distancing. Enforcement requires authority and punishment too. Over here, its the fine is up to rm10000 for individuals, rm50000 for businesses if they are found breaking any of the rules. Road blocks and SOP enforcement now involved army as well. Our cases have been higher due to recent outbreak, where at peak, has been 5k a day new cases, with up to 30+ death a day. These past few weeks has been 1k a day. The second movement restriction here was not really a lockdown as most businesses are allowed to be open as long as they follow SOP. 

[BiBottomBoy]

yea. this is what the UK and the EU needed to do but didn't do it because they were scared of getting voted out of office.

[traveller123]

23 hours ago, BiBottomBoy said:

you have  a population that is used to following the rules.

Here is France half the people don't even wear masks

The UK Government had no excuse for it's incompetence, they had won a 5 year term in 2019 

 

[BiBottomBoy]

more competent than the french government

[captainmick]

44 minutes ago, BiBottomBoy said:

more competent than the french government

Hardly surprising: Big Boris v Le Petit Macron and France caught up with Brussels bureaucracy.......and I was a remainer.

[BiBottomBoy]

yep. boris su cks but he's been a lot better about the pandemic than macron has