Egypt update

[Londoner]

No mention of Luxor's Banana Island? a frequent destination for the boat captains. And others. 

 

[Santiagodc]

1 hour ago, Londoner said:

No mention of Luxor's Banana Island? a frequent destination for the boat captains. And others. 

 

That’s a good reminder, especially for those first time travelers. I could mention my two most previous experiences to show some of the change:

If you look on google maps, you can see Banana Island along with photos. My normal experiences in years past allowed me to have sex there two ways: first, I would take one of the boats from the east side of the Nile and go to the island alone. At the island are two cafes, three little farm display areas, a Banana grove farm area, a few private farm areas. and this funky fort structure. I would sit at the cafe, have a drink, pretend to read a book, and then eye some of the boat captains. We could go to the banana grove to do the deed. Sometimes the farm boys would also smile and do something for money. Well, my last visit last year had no action there and just old men and old women on the island. The old marina guy that has been there for 20 years told me that the young guys have to either joined the military for money or travel north for work. 

Now I did find another way this most recent stay: during the day you can go to one of the three private marina dock areas on the East bank. This is where you have the sexy guys acting as gay bait to get you to book a boat where an old man will suddenly appear as the driver. So, I found a really sexy boy at the entrance and told him I wanted to go to the the Island with HIM and ONLY him. He agreed. We went to the small boat with outboard motor. The old man suddenly appeared and I quickly said no and exited the boat. Then the young guy talked to the old man and the young boy alone took me to the island. There we enjoyed sex in the grove, a little snack, then another round of sex. The Island wasn’t very active, but I had found a way. On our way back we saw the Egyptian marine police that began to stop our boat. The boy asked me for 100 pounds (6 USD) and I quickly gave it to him. The police asked him a few questions and he said he had taken me to the Island for tourism. The boy gave them his ID with the money. They gave the ID back without the money and let us go. Come to find out, a permit license is required to ferry people so the money sufficed as a little gift. We went to the Island two other times with no problem. 

Thus, if you find no action on the Island itself, you can use it as a place during the day for sex if you can just make sure the sexy guy is actually the one to go with you. 

In days past that place was so crowded I remember every banana plant seemed to have westerners having sex with a guy. Alas, times have changed so we old men must adjust our tactics!!!!

[funic]

A gay acquaintance of mine (a way more adventurous one than I could ever dream to be) who visited a while ago mentioned that condoms are pretty much not used in Egypt, is it the case?

[king20583]

Great tips - can't wait for travel restrictions to be lifted and try them out when I visit Egypt

[pete01]

Santiagodc. Excellent trip report! Very informative. I will add Egypt to my list of places to visit post Covid.

[DutchDork]

How's Egypt during Christmas?

[Baska]

Most likely not - maybe with the exception of Luxor, where there are quite a few Christians. The main thing is not to travel to Egypt during Ramadan.

[Xclay]

Agree with Baska that Ramadan is not ideal. For me, the problem with December in Egypt has nothing to do with Christmas.

Winters are surprisingly cold in Cairo!  AccuWeather predicts December 25 will only get up to a high of 15° (59° F) with a low of 9° (48° F)!  I prefer to save Egypt for the fall and spring.

[tm_nyc]

Have a great trip &, please, report back.  Love to hear about a visit to a Cairo hammam.  

[Baska]

Мой опыт посещения хаммама в Каире в мае 2021 года оказался неудачным, так как молодой массажист очень заботился о моей невинности и всячески скрывал мою наготу, хотя я был единственным посетителем в хаммаме. Сам массаж был неплох, но не до качества тайского.

[Gaz69]

I have had some fun in Sharm, Hurghada and Cairo over the last 3 yrs.  I plan on trying cairo again later in the year and Aswan. I am quite exited about Aswan after reading some of the posts here. I did have a friend come back and say it was a horrible place to be but I realised Cairo was horrible for him as he is camp as tits and would really stand out there. I think the place and people are amazing. Try to get your very last penny from you but lots places I visit are similar. Just need to know how to talk to them. 

[tm_nyc]

Aswan is a small town without a lot of tourist amenities so maybe that is what your friend was reacting to.  I went there to do the excursion to Abu Simbel, which was great, but did not have time to see the other sights or have any encounters with the locals.  I liked Egypt a lot & would love to go back to Aswan!

Gaz69, are you willing to share any of your experiences in Egypt?  I would especially like to hear about Sharm & Hurghada.

[Gaz69]

Hi, Sharm was totally random I was there with a friend and really not looking. The guy selling all the oils/perfumes in the local shop offered some massage oil for sale, I said I didn’t have anyone to give me a massage and he locked the door, pulled down the shutter and told me to lie down…. Job done. Another in sharm was taxi driver outside hotel, told him I was just walking to shop 100yds away then he kept running his crotch and asked me to jump in, I did and 5 mins later Job done!  Hurghada was just as random, young beautiful boy on boat trip kept flirting when he seen me looking at him (probably a bit too much) sort of flashed himself at the bar when he was serving me a drink, half hour later sucked him dry on the boat in the toilet when about 40 others were sunbathing outside, risky but worth it. 
Everyone in shop when alone is up for grabs if you get the vibe and I usually did. 

[young11]

On 3/9/2021 at 12:52 PM, Santiagodc said:

That’s a good reminder, especially for those first time travelers. I could mention my two most previous experiences to show some of the change:

If you look on google maps, you can see Banana Island along with photos. My normal experiences in years past allowed me to have sex there two ways: first, I would take one of the boats from the east side of the Nile and go to the island alone. At the island are two cafes, three little farm display areas, a Banana grove farm area, a few private farm areas. and this funky fort structure. I would sit at the cafe, have a drink, pretend to read a book, and then eye some of the boat captains. We could go to the banana grove to do the deed. Sometimes the farm boys would also smile and do something for money. Well, my last visit last year had no action there and just old men and old women on the island. The old marina guy that has been there for 20 years told me that the young guys have to either joined the military for money or travel north for work. 

Now I did find another way this most recent stay: during the day you can go to one of the three private marina dock areas on the East bank. This is where you have the sexy guys acting as gay bait to get you to book a boat where an old man will suddenly appear as the driver. So, I found a really sexy boy at the entrance and told him I wanted to go to the the Island with HIM and ONLY him. He agreed. We went to the small boat with outboard motor. The old man suddenly appeared and I quickly said no and exited the boat. Then the young guy talked to the old man and the young boy alone took me to the island. There we enjoyed sex in the grove, a little snack, then another round of sex. The Island wasn’t very active, but I had found a way. On our way back we saw the Egyptian marine police that began to stop our boat. The boy asked me for 100 pounds (6 USD) and I quickly gave it to him. The police asked him a few questions and he said he had taken me to the Island for tourism. The boy gave them his ID with the money. They gave the ID back without the money and let us go. Come to find out, a permit license is required to ferry people so the money sufficed as a little gift. We went to the Island two other times with no problem. 

Thus, if you find no action on the Island itself, you can use it as a place during the day for sex if you can just make sure the sexy guy is actually the one to go with you. 

In days past that place was so crowded I remember every banana plant seemed to have westerners having sex with a guy. Alas, times have changed so we old men must adjust our tactics!!!!

thanks for the reports and sharing your tactics. Have you been in Egypt recently, like, this year?

[partiamo1]

I was sorry to see this thread run out.  I am contemplating a trip to Luxor next February (2023).  The kind of encounters Santiagodc mentions have always excited me.  I’m a similarly middle-aged white man, often considered sexy, not definitively seen as gay by strangers but have a quality that I imagine invites questions.  My question is whether Egyptian men are exclusively interested in blow jobs/being active, or whether any are available for more mutual pleasures, especially just being nude together in a bed, maybe kissing?  I know most must draw the line in order to act more closely according to their religion.  But are the only pleasures to be had in giving head?  It’s just something that, in the absence of a more complete connection, doesn’t interest me greatly.  

[msclelovr]

I asked a very similar question @partiamo1 a few months back. I’m similar to you, but I’m only a top and I enjoy being sucked off.
 

IIRC it was @Santiagodc who replied. The answer was that he only met guys who wanted to be serviced orally. He wasn’t aware of guys who were willing to reciprocate or perform fully.

I’ll be interested to see if others report differently.

[partiamo1]

I am also curious: are most Egyptians only interested if money is involved?  In my experience both places, most are responding to me personally, not to the prospect of money.  Is Egypt so different?  (Of course, as an older man now (60 y.o.), I suppose I have to adapt my standard expectations.  

[msclelovr]

8 hours ago, partiamo1 said:

as an older man now (60 y.o.), I suppose I have to adapt my standard expectations.

I feel that’s only sensible @partiamo1. FWIW  I’m an older man too and I enjoy spending time with young men. I’ve travelled extensively for many years.

During long stays, especially in Latin America and Africa, I’ve often been hit on by nice young men. Nothing may be said about money, but I understand that young men are hoping to improve their circumstances. So it pays to be generous. If I have fun, I take guys shopping for clothes etc the next morning. If I really hit it off with a guy and want to enjoy his company more, I suggest an all-expenses paid vacation. Many guys have not travelled outside their own country and they accept with delight.
 

I’ve had some great times in return for being generous so I feel the older/younger dynamic works well when “mutual benefit” is the guiding principle. 

[Guest]

Thank you for this post. Egypt is on my list of places to visit. First because of the pyramids and temples, but secondly the men. I've been finding Egyptian men on Dirty Roulette - it's a random chat site where a lot of guys are looking for women, but many are looking for men. The Egyptians, Tunisians and Algerians are especially hot (in my opinion). They are vocal and get hard and cum fast. I love chatting with them. One day, I'd like to sample some Egyptian bananas in real life. I'll be using your post as a guide.

[Guest]

On 5/8/2022 at 12:18 PM, richard265 said:

I've been finding Egyptian men on Dirty Roulette - it's a random chat site where a lot of guys are looking for women, but many are looking for men. The Egyptians, Tunisians and Algerians are especially hot (in my opinion). They are vocal and get hard and cum fast. I love chatting with them. One day, I'd like to sample some Egyptian bananas in real life.

In other words - @richard265 uses anonymous online chat rooms to waste other peoples time & get-off, pretending to be in places where he is not (in this case using an Egyptian chat room) with no intention of actually visiting Egypt to meet men in person .  And it’s the same exact thing he’s doing in this forum.  

[young11]

Can you bring a guy to your hotel without any issues in Egypt? 

[young11]

I just returned from a trip to Egypt. It was on my way to my destination, so I decided to add a stopover in Egypt for a week to explore.  

1. Markets: It was very hard to arrange anything. Each shop is next to each other and publicly visible so I am not sure how one can just close the shop and do the deeds...Maybe @Santiagodc can enlighten us?

2. Aswan: It is dead if you are looking for a hot young guy. The boat drivers are all old and there are some young (youngish) horse drivers but very limited. Most of them are skinny guys, not very clean and no place to do, so it was somewhat disappointing for me. I was told that the most young guys moved to north (i think they mean Luxor). This is probably because Aswan doesn't attract as many tourists as luxor. There was one guy who was my type. He looked more like a mix of sudanese and egyptian, nice body: slim but toned with curvy black arse. The funny part is that after arriving at Aswan late at night, I decided just to walk on cornich to see the scene, not to do anything because it was late and I was tired after a long trip. But this guy (mixed looking guy) asked me if I wanted a ride while passing by me and I said no because I really didn't wanna deal with price negotiation at that time. He stopped his horse carriage a bit ahead of my direction and started walking toward me and I noticed he was touching his pen!s casually, as if most guys just do it but quite noticeable for me. He asked for me a ride for free and I said no and then i stopped me on cornice and asked me to touch his stuff down there. I was just shocked because it was on cornice so I said no with a smile and looked around. He then took me to his carriage and he sat on the carriage and showed his stuff on street. it was somewhat hidden but quite visible for anyone who would pay attention. he said I can suck him there and I said no but he asked me to sit inside the carriage and he sat in front of me. I asked for his price and he said 200, which is like 5usd so i sat there and he pulled cover over me and gave me his stuff, in the middle of the cornish road. I sucked and he came within a minute. I liked it as an experience because I did it in front of everything on cornish, otherwise it was not worth. He got my number and asked me to come back next day for full sex and I got it. Then he took me to his friend, who was not my type and recommended him. I just refused and went to my hotel. Next day, he said he has a place and if he fucks me he has to pay for the place, that was 400 and plus 200 for the sex, total of 600. I said yes and he took me with his carriage. Guess what, he stopped at a mosque with a big ground around it and jumped over the fence and asked me to do the same and I followed him to the mosque area. In the ground around the mosque, there was a small empty house, which looked like a guard post under construction and he asked me to do the deed inside there. Trash were everything and it was dark and visible from outside but it was dark and no one was around. He fucked me but it was quick. Again I did it for the experience but not the sex was not good. So I didn't meet him again, though he called me almost million times...Next day, it was so hot, so I changed my plan to explore the city and opened up grindr. Very few guys there and I can easily see guys in Luxor...One of them contacted me and sent me his face pictures etc. I was kinda shocked and thought he sent a fake picture but he was good looking, slim toned guy. I asked him if I can invite him to my hotel, he said in egypt it is not possible but he invited me to his place. Well, it was a day, so i took a cab to his place and he was real....I kinda thought there is a possibility of robbing me but it was a day time in a residential area, so I thought I could seek for help easily. He took me upstairs and we did it in an apartment under construction...I don't know how it works but in the same building, some apartments are completed and people live and some are still under construction without windows...And we did it there and he put some blankets on the floor. It was not that bad as a bed but no toilet facility and people could see us because there was no window...But hey, free sex with a decently hot guy, it was totally worth the risk. I think this sex itself made my trip to aswan worthwhile. The rest was boring: boat drivers are grandpa level old, camel riders are extremely ugly and old or a little child. Some hot guys in the market but they didn't have a shop and didn't have an eye contact with me...

3. Luxor. The market had the same issue as 1 and the sellers are more aggressive there. Luxor has a lot more young guys there but the boat drivers were generally older (daddy level oldness, not grandpa). I think this is because I actually saw a lot more tourists in luxor than aswan. One decently looking guy asked me to take his horse ride for 50 EGP for an hour, I said why not. He kept driving me around without any hint of doing the deed, so I was kinda surprised...But after 20min ride, he stopped at a barber shop and another guy jumped into the carriage. Apparently they share the carriage and this hot was just all over me. As soon as he hopped in, he shake hand and kept caressing my hand without releasing...He was too skinny for my taste but he had a charming smile and decent face, so I kept talking to him and I wanted to know how things work in Luxor. He took me to a house (yes a proper house, proper bed, and proper toilet) and we did it there for 400. The most surprising part was that he didn't care about the people in the house. Many people saw us entering and walking around the house and we used one big room with toilet, so I am guessing everyone else there knew what was going on haha. Surprisingly he lasted quite a bit, so I am guessing he is used to it. Anyway, that was fun and he offered me many things and I said i will think about it. Next day, I explored the cornish and market and boat. More or less the same issue. Luxor horse riders are young but mostly skinny guys, so not my type. Boat drivers are older than my preferred type, market guys are hard to close the deal, so I decided to enjoy the touristy stuff. 

4. Cairo. I had a very low expectation for Cairo because of this forum information. 

a. hotel staff: none of them were my type, either old or too skinny. So I decided to go to the gym. I stayed in two hotels in Cairo, both 5* with a proper gym. First hotel had a gym instructor who is kinda hot but he didnt speak english at all. I was the only person there and I wanted to make some conversation via google translate but he didn't give me any hint so I decided not waste my time. Another was Ritz (former Hilton) because I really wanted to see the infamous sauna there. The gym instructor was older than my type, so I went to the sauna. There was a staff there, who seemed to have given me some hint but he was not really my type, so I just enjoyed the sauna. There was a few locals who use the gym but this is the rich and ugly part of the society so i left quickly. The room cleaner was def into this sort of stuff but he was skinny and there were two of them: one old and one young. I wasn't bothered to mess up with them because the young one was too skinny. 

b. UBER. this is new and I knew some uber drivers do this sorta stuff from my experience in other countries. But i realized that Uber taxi drivers were older or not so fit, so not my type. Then I thought Uber bike!!! I ordered an uber bike for 5 minute ride from my hotel because my purpose was not taking it but to see the driver. guess what, as soon as I confirmed, the driver messaged me and said "you want a bike or an arab?" this was a google translation built in the uber app...I acted like I don't know what it meant and he just said forget about it and started moving toward me. I acted this way because I wanted to see the guy. Uber shows a face picture but not always the same person and you can't see the body. The guy came and he had a nice face but very skinny body so I didn't give any hints. But I think there are a lot opportunities there to explore haha

c. Hammam/massage. I love hammams and massage even without sex so I checked some in cairo. I had two hammams and two massage places. One hammam was just bad: they didn't know what they were doing, they only try to sell drinks and very unfriendly reception etc. I didn't get any hints from hammam attendants and I am happy that they didnt because they were ugly and unfit. Another hammam was very diffent: friendly staff thoroughout and didn't bother me so mcuh with drink sales...The interesting part is that the hammam attendant was going a little deeper than usual into my groin area. And his pen!s slight touched me twice...Well he was not fit or toned so I didn't react. I think one could explore it with some caution. Two massage places were the same like the two hammam places: one good and one bad. The bad one was not that bad, the massage therapist was good but just didn't show any hints and didn't go deeper inside my groin or anywhere near for that matter. The good one was such a surprise. He had an excellent massage skill (hard pressure) so I was already happy when he started from my feet. Then as he goes up, he gets deeper inside my legs without any hesitation. I have never had such confident aggressiveness (in a good way!) in a massage. As he was going through my thighs, he touched my balls a couple of times and we went up into my ass and gave me a proper ass massage haha. Then he fingered me without even asking, just as if it was a part of the massage and he kept doing the massage and sometimes the finger gets into my ass...Oh my, this is a pleasant surprise. He went to my back and shoulders but I could fee his penis on my head. When he asked me to turn around, i was just super hard and he would go around and casually touch my hard penis...And I stopped being shy and started touching him and he didn't stop me but he was not hard. He was nto really my type but the experience was so good. Then his phone alarm went off and he stopped immediately and said the time is up. He asked me dress up and leave, even without asking for a tip....Anyway the change room was in a different room, so I left to the change room. I got my bag from the locker and gave him a tip discreetly. That was probably the highlight of Cairo. 

d. Grindr/tinder: I noticed apps are very active. Grindr probably has more fake profiles but some people had this instagram linked so I think there are some real guys out there. I was just too buy to interact with them and because I cannot bring them to my hotel, I didn't pay much attention to them. If anyone knows a way to solve this accommodation issue, do let me know, I think I will visit Egypt again

[tm_nyc]

Excellent!  Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed, candid account of your experiences.  It's great that you have a positive approach to try & see what works & what doesn't.  Sorry to hear that Aswan was a disappointment but very interesting about the hammam & massage availabilities in Cairo.  Also, UBER bike.  What agreat idea!

I visited Egypt about 10 years ago & had zero luck with shop keepers, tour guides, taxi drivers, hotel staff because they were generally older & bulkier than the kind of guy I prefer.   Also, I think that it's necessary to have time to explore.  It was my first time there & I was generally running around doing touristic stuff (which I loved) which didn't leave a lot of time & energy for 'other pursuits'. 

[Lonnie]

6 hours ago, young11 said:

I think I will visit Egypt again

Thanks young11 for this terrific report!

[Liamino]

I’m glad I’ve found this thread.

I’m off to Hurghada at the beginning of next year. Are there any gay friendly bars or places to go to meet locals?